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HEADLINE: Guillen: The entire board must go
CaribbeanCricket.com
Oct 1, 2015, 2:48:23 AM
“It is going to be very difficult to get any changes to the set of the WICB but all cricket fans as stakeholders must do what it takes to be heard and apply pressure for change.”
Given the current situation with the problems afflicting West Indies cricket, Queen’s Park manager Jeffrey Guillen is calling for the resignation of the entire West Indies Cricket Board (WICB).
On Monday, coach Phil Simmons was suspended for his public comments concerning the continued snubbing of Dwayne Bravo and Kieron Pollard by the West Indies selectors for the ODI team.
Guillen who attended the WICB Town Hall meeting in Trinidad last week and asked the president of the WICB, why he didn’t resign after the Indian fiasco said: “We have reached a state in our cricket now where we are in serious problems and I have been calling for the president of the board to resign after India but I think the entire board should go now and let us start over with new men and implement the PJ Patterson report on the governance of West Indies cricket.
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Chrissy
Oct 1, 2015, 3:57:57 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Correct is right.
Emir
Oct 1, 2015, 4:22:39 AM
Finally someone is the fraternity is standing up, but more outrage and protest is required.
Again, I am asking why hasn't the the respective DPP's look in to allegations of fraud by the executive of the WICB? Threat of prosecution is one sure way to get them scared.
cherri
Oct 1, 2015, 4:24:43 AM
In reply to Emir
Threat of prosecution is one sure way to get them scared.....
Scared?...dem ent even scared of dem own shaddows, ..........
bobby
Oct 1, 2015, 4:30:41 AM
In reply to Chrissy
Time for talk is long over. I wish I had the money to take the WICBandits to court but I don't.
The entire WICB should be in jail.
matchstick
Oct 1, 2015, 4:39:55 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
The entire board must go
When a man make a broad and general statement like that he clearly dont have a clue either would be better served shutting his trap...
methodic
Oct 1, 2015, 10:11:12 AM
In reply to matchstick
ah wonder if you know who talking dey?
POINT
Oct 1, 2015, 12:55:00 PM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
It is good to see that Some people are beginning to SEE THE LIGHT . I guess
those who laugh at what I write aint
laughing anymore .
It will be very interesting to hear
the opinions , of what the Sacred Scribes in the Region have to personally say , by that I mean , their opinions , not the opinions of others .
ProWI
Oct 1, 2015, 1:09:30 PM
In reply to Chrissy
If there were no resignations over the Indian debacle, why should one expect any such over the suspension of a coach.
The voices calling for resignations now should have been screaming at the top of their lungs at the international embarrassment caused by the manner of the termination of the Indian tour.
I have been calling for Comrade C's head since day one of the Indian debacle, but now I say, let him stay. Let's see the extent to which one man's hubris and those of his cohorts can destroy a once respected brand.
jen
Oct 1, 2015, 2:15:36 PM
In reply to bobby
Not the entire WICB, there are some good men in there. The WICB have some very competent personnel. The problem mostly is with some of the directors and the bigger boys.
POINT
Oct 1, 2015, 3:10:09 PM
In reply to jen
In my opinion THEY ALL HAVE TO GO .
because they are ALL steeped in a Culture of Mediocrity . None of them have exemplified any semblance of realizing that Cricket is a very serious Business , that demands that the Business of Cricket is treated very Seriously .
What is needed are People with Fresh Thinking , and the ability to think outside the Box . I will forever maintain that Cricket would be best run in the Region , in my opinion , by Former Great Players .
The Former Great Players who were in the governance of the Regional Tournament did an excellent job , yet
I have not heard , or read that they were commended for their Services .
Many of the WICB SYCOPHANTS in the Region , prefer instead to keep harping on Stanford & his Ponzi Scheme . As if they were culpable for
Stanford's Deeds .
In essence to diminish these former Players achievements in the governance of the shortest version of the game in the Region . The SYCOPHANTS of the WICB indulged in
a Systematic Campaign to tar those
former Great Players with the deeds of Stanford .
Let me once again state in this Forum ;
NONE OF THE FORMER PLAYERS WHO WERE
IN THE GOVERNANCE OF THE REGION'S
SHORTEST VERSION OF THE GAME WERE
ARRESTED OR JAILED FOR BEING
ASSOCIATED WITH STANFORD , IN THE
LATTER'S PONZI SCHEME .
Now that being the case ,people need
to stop maligning what they did . I
suspect that this may have been orchestrated by Allies of the WICBC .
THE FACT IS LIKE IT OR NOT , IT IS
THE EFFORTS OF THESE UNSUNG HEROES
THAT MADE OUR TEAM'S PLAYERS WIN A
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP . THE WICBC HAD
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT
TEAM'S ACHIEVEMENT .
openning
Oct 1, 2015, 3:16:12 PM
In reply to jen
It is the structure, change Cameron without a structural changes will not solve the problem, with the WICB.
POINT
Oct 1, 2015, 3:44:42 PM
In reply to openning
For over a decade I have been saying that the Structure must change , Where
were You ???
In my response to you elsewhere in this
Forum , the WICBC has Commissioned
various Reports , and then rejected them . My take is that in essence you are saying that WE must leave the WICBC to do as it wants .
You cannot really be serious , the
reason why these Reports were rejected by the WICBC , is that it fears that it is going to lose some of its power .
Like it or not the WICB does not exist in a Vacuum , neither the WICBC
or the ICC own any Stadia in the Region , many of the Stadia in the
Region , are owned by Taxpayers .
It is therefore important that the
Taxpayers through their Governments
have a role REGARDING Cricket in
the Region . I would readily agree that if the WICBC had its own Cricket
Grounds in the Region , it could do whatever it wants . But that aint the case .
openning
Oct 1, 2015, 3:54:04 PM
In reply to POINT
Dude most posters on this board has said the same thing, we just don't make it our daily saying.
We post daily on the topic of the day
The poster that attack you, are tired of repetition, you are not bringing into new to the message board
Postters spoke for and against every president, Coach and CEO, most of us know about every report that was commission, so why would anyone, want to make the WICB their daily posting?
matchstick
Oct 2, 2015, 5:45:23 AM
In reply to methodic
ah wonder if you know who talking dey?
I am sure it's a respectable fella and I might have very high respect for him...
Does not mean that I HAVE to agree with his opinion on this issue.
WestDem
Oct 2, 2015, 6:28:56 AM
In reply to matchstick
Guillen? Isn't he de man whose son play fuh T&T at de expense of more talented cricketers juss because his name is Guillen?
man look if we can disagree with Lloyd, who de rass is Guillen...
cherri
Oct 2, 2015, 7:26:47 AM
In reply to openning
And what would happen if you change the structure and Cameron remains?........curious.........
snakes abound all over the place, some poisonous, some not.......but they are all dangerous.........
natty_forever
Oct 2, 2015, 9:25:24 AM
In reply to cherri... well I would hope he will be held accountable. I am sure I would be out of work if I contributed to a $42M liability.
WestDem
Oct 2, 2015, 9:35:47 AM
In reply to cherri
snakes abound all over the place, some poisonous, some not.......but they are all dangerous.........
This man should run WI cricket cause snakes very afraid of him and he from T&T!
XDFIX
Oct 2, 2015, 10:02:58 AM
In reply to cherri
snakes abound all over the place, some poisonous, some not.......but they are all dangerous..
Some men kill snake, nyam even, poison or not!
Trini cabal all over the place!
openning
Oct 2, 2015, 10:07:29 AM
In reply to natty_forever, WestDem
What will an organization chart for a new WICB structure look like?
WestDem
Oct 2, 2015, 10:33:20 AM
In reply to openning
FLAT!
POINT
Oct 2, 2015, 11:45:31 AM
I am on record in this Forum stating that There must be One Entity , with two Departments , A CRICKET DEPARTMENT
& A ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENT .
The Cricket Department will be Responsible for EVERYTHING PERTAINING
TO CRICKET . I do mean EVERYTHING .
The decisions of this Department
cannot be abridged or overturned by the Administrative Department .
This Department , will be staffed by
former Great West Indies Players ; as
I have stated in this Forum often .
Those Players who were in charge of the Regional Tournament in the shortest version of the game .
It is because of their Stewardship that Our Players & Team won the World Championships in the shortest version
of the game . Please spare me any Bull Shit about Stanford ; because NONE of those who were the Stewards of the Shortest Version of the game in the Region , were arrested or were prosecuted for being involved in Stanford's Ponzi Scheme , yet they have been Tarred & Discredited by the Sycophants of the WICB , to discredit
& diminish the work these persons did .
Currently in the shortest version of the game , our Team is ranked at # 4 . Meanwhile , in the longer versions of the game ; which is under the Stewardship of the WICBC ; our Team
is a Bottom Dweller in # 9 position .
Two Members of the Cricket Department
must be in attendance of ALL Meetings
of the Administrative Department .
The Administrative Department will
have the usual complement of Officers . President ; Vice President ; Treasurer ; Asst. Treasurer ; Secretary ; Asst. Secretary ; PRO STAFF ; A LEGAL ADVISOR ; etc .
In my Structure the Cricket Department , being in control of everything pertaining to Cricket , without any outside interference is
permanent , in essence , My thinking on this aint ever going to change .
BeatDball
Oct 2, 2015, 3:01:31 PM
In reply to WestDem The Guillens have roots that are deeper than the big cat...
POINT
Oct 2, 2015, 3:21:01 PM
It should be obvious , that Once the Structure is going to change there must be New Elections for posts in the Entity .
It makes no sense pouring New Wine into Old Bottles or Vice Versa .Frankly
many People in the governance of Cricket in the Region have strenuously resisted the Reports that they themselves had commissioned .
If they were interested in a New Structure , they would have done so , but they did not do a blasted thing .
openning
Oct 2, 2015, 5:03:42 PM
In reply to POINT
Dude can you name any company that have elections, when hiring people?
Let people who know or is part of a management structure add info to my post.