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nick2020 2016-06-07 20:26:15 

Barbados

The Heart Man

A man who carves peoples hearts out (especially those of the ever popular disobedient children in folkloric stories) and gives them to the devil. Some claim he has no heart of his own and this is why he takes people’s hearts.

Baccoo

A tiny, bearded man in a bottle who is said to be able to do great feats of magic for his owner.

Steel Donkey

A humanoid donkey that also dragged chains behind it.

 
bravos 2016-06-07 20:43:37 

In reply to nick2020

T&T

'La Diablesse'

(Lajabless), the Devil Woman, roams at night. She has eyes like burning coals and a face resembling that of a corpse, but hides it under a beautiful wide-brimmed hat and a veil over her face. She is dressed exquisitely in a blouse with puffy sleeves and long, petticoat, skirts.


'Douen'

(Dwen) The Douen is a character from Trinidad and Tobago folklore, it is believed they are the lost souls of children that had not yet been baptized or christened. Their most recognized characteristic are their feet that are said to be backwards, with the heel facing the front.


'Emir'

(Arm Hair),a real fukin pain most of the time,old like coals with rheumatic joints and long unkept nails and hairs, he roams diaspora message boards trying to murder T&T's rep! A dose of haul yuh cornt usually keeps him away,then he agreeably goes away for a short time,only to attack again when one's least expecting it. In a twisted way most of the times condemning his threads by way of a reply is what usually breathes it to life in the first place,best to ignore and see him fade away.


'Soucouyant'

(Sookoonyeah) The soucouyant is a shape-shifting character who appears as a reclusive old woman by day. By night, she strips off her wrinkled skin and puts it in a mortar. In her true form, as a fireball she flies across the dark sky in search of a victim. The soucouyant can enter the home of her victim through any sized hole like cracks, crevices and keyholes.



smile

 
sudden 2016-06-07 21:08:19 

In reply to nick2020

Ask Powen bout de heartman. They say his grandfather was one. Used to frighten people up dey in St. John

 
nick2020 2016-06-07 21:16:10 

Think there is any truth to these stories?

 
nick2020 2016-06-07 21:17:10 

In reply to bravos

Both Guyana and Barbados have a "Baccoo" folklore.

 
black 2016-06-07 21:38:33 

In reply to bravos

'Soucouyant'

(Sookoonyeah) The soucouyant is a shape-shifting character who appears as a reclusive old woman by day. By night, she strips off her wrinkled skin and puts it in a mortar. In her true form, as a fireball she flies across the dark sky in search of a victim. The soucouyant can enter the home of her victim through any sized hole like cracks, crevices and keyholes.


Guyanese Ole higue.

 
bravos 2016-06-07 21:57:02 

In reply to black

This should be your thread though.. wink

 
bravos 2016-06-07 21:58:32 

In reply to nick2020

In Trinidad we call dem buck...but even so it's known as a Guyanese thing...but we call dem buck.."he hah he buck under he counter" lol

Oh it could take shape of a pen in your pocket too..

I wish I had a buck though..have been accused already..lol

 
Walco 2016-06-07 22:00:58 

In reply to bravos

Which is the one that sucks your blood? One a dem run my mother from Trinidad a long time ago. She woke up one morning with a puncture in her skin. Left TNT the same day saying the next one that comes will have to find here in Barbados.

 
bravos 2016-06-07 22:04:45 

In reply to Walco

Well I hear my dad and uncle fought and beat one long time and run it...lol.

Soucouyant tales. Would post others..

 
nick2020 2016-06-07 22:31:03 

In reply to bravos

bravos yuh family beat up an old lady?

 
bravos 2016-06-07 22:42:08 

In reply to nick2020

hahahahahhahahahahaha!!! lol lol lol



**edited No 'ah' old lady'... smile

 
nick2020 2016-06-07 23:53:12 

In reply to bravos

You think 'Soucouyant' really existed? Because if not dem beat up gran gran. cry

 
bravos 2016-06-08 00:16:09 

In reply to nick2020

I think they all had too much to drink,including the old lady who tripped onto the big kerosene lantern in the lighthouse ,slipped over the balcony railing and in a ball of fire crashed into a couple houses in the village at the bottom of the hill on that very windy night.

 
black 2016-06-08 00:26:40 

In reply to bravos

This should be your thread though..


I had a similar thread, not that long ago.

 
bravos 2016-06-08 00:30:18 

In reply to black

Hmmm so this is a copy cat case...we havta get some copycat repellent asap..

I only have Che repellent..maybe there should be a broad spectrum Bajan repellent? smile

 
Norm 2016-06-08 03:00:09 

'Kanaima", also in Guyana. Amerindian evil forest person or spirit. May live in water, and may be a bloodsucker. Could be invisible and take on animal form.

"Bacoo" - already mentioned. The word means "Little brother" or "Little person" in some West African languages. Said to be forever bitter and to possess magical powers, but needs to have a master. He apparently lives a very long time too.

If he does not have a master, the bacoo goes into hiding and falls into a deep sleep until disturbed. The person waking up the bacoo runs the risk of being tormented endlessly if he or she does not accept "ownership" of the bacoo.

The torment would include sleepless nights because of plenty of eerie noise, the breaking of things hurled violently against walls, and bad luck of all sorts.

Bacoo "care" includes feeding and clothing, with milk and banana being the favorite food.

"Obeah" is a river god in parts of West Africa (mostly Nigeria and Benin), also possessing magical powers. Some magical power was also conferred on worshipers of Obeah. In Guyana, the Obeahman comes without the river god, but the connection to West African tradition is obvious.

Folklore is cultural and ethnic history, with far more than the mere entertainment value it is usually ascribed in the Caribbean.

 
JohnDoe 2016-06-08 06:36:15 

Ole higue used to suck lil children blood at night. Yuh had to sprinkle rice grains around the children bed or something like that. For some reason the ole higue would have to stop and count the rice grains. And if yuh wake up and ketch her counting is licks in she tail. smile

 
Drapsey 2016-06-08 06:44:05 

In the Yard there was the Rolling Calf.

Sorry that I have no details.

 
sudden 2016-06-08 06:47:17 

In reply to Drapsey

Rolling calf or Humble Calf?

 
Drapsey 2016-06-08 06:51:33 

In reply to sudden

Rolling. The way I heard it.

 
Norm 2016-06-08 07:18:01 

In reply to JohnDoe

The Old Higue sheds her skin and places it in a calabash, hops onto a broom and flies off to some home with an infant, preferably a newborn. She would then suck the baby's blood, and would return to this activity from time to time.
The desperate mother would have to hide a pair of scissors under the baby's pillow. The scissors would somehow deter or harm the Old Higue. Since she was said to be unable to cross a line of salt, this was another surefire way o defend the home against her.
Best of all though, if you found the Old Higue's calabash with her skin, you should grab a stick and wait for her to return, since sunlight will kill her if she has no skin.
A sound trashing will kill her too, which is totally acceptable and not considered murder! Many old women have been beaten to death in villages decades ago, for being Old Higues, allegedly.
Before being able to get back into her skin, the Old Higue must sing a special song and dance for the skin, which would only go back to its owner if it recognizes her. This, of course, could be risky for the Old Higue, who is very vulnerable to both sunlight and beatings without her skin.
The Old Higue was able to become a ball of fire at times, while flying.
The Old Higue folklore seems to have originated among the Portuguese.

 
JohnDoe 2016-06-08 07:43:51 

In reply to Norm

Your spin to warding off ole higue is different from what I know and sounds kinda dangerous. Placing a scissors under an infant's pillow???

Never heard of salt either but I guess that could work in place of rice. The thing is she had to pick up each grain and place it in her hand while she was counting them. Inevitably the hand she's holding the grains with would get full and they would fall back to the floor and she would have to start counting all over again. An impossible task which for whatever reason she couldn't abandon and guaranteed she would get ketch when the adults woke up.

But look at me debating like if any of this is real. lol

 
JohnDoe 2016-06-08 07:56:09 

Ole Kai after whom Kaieteur falls was named.

Ole Kai is an old man who sacrificed himself to the great spirit Makonaima to save his people by paddling over the falls.

The legend of Ole Kai was resurrected with the recent rash of young women jumping over the falls. Folks claimed they were drawn by the spirit of Ole Kai which still dwells beneath the falls.

 
black 2016-06-08 08:08:05 

In reply to bravos

Hmmm so this is a copy cat case...we havta get some copycat repellent asap..


Shhhhh

 
nick2020 2016-06-08 08:58:26 

In reply to black

Link?

 
Walco 2016-06-08 09:34:55 

In reply to bravos

Well I tell mi muddah dat I dint believ her story and it wuz probably di lady she stayed wid who did dat during her sleep. She did not care who it was. She was on a boat to Barbados post haste big grin big grin

 
Walco 2016-06-08 09:41:34 

In reply to JohnDoe

But look at me debating like if any of this is real.


lol lol lol lol Mi here thinking di same ting. Two obeahman debating obeah repellent techniques?

 
bravos 2016-06-08 09:48:50 

In reply to Walco



Lol yeh boy they talk about them as everyday fact.. smile

lol lol

 
bravos 2016-06-08 09:53:28 

In reply to JohnDoe

Somehow they all seem to be vulnerable to a good cut ass ! smile

 
bravos 2016-06-08 09:54:34 

In reply to nick2020

smile

 
bravos 2016-06-08 09:54:51 

In reply to black

smile

 
cricketest 2016-06-08 10:04:45 

which country have the cunning spider?

and the old man, the guardian of the forest?

 
CWWeekes 2016-06-08 10:21:05 

The Bajan "Heart Man" and "Steel
Donkey" have much in common with Yard's "Black Heart Man" and "Rolling Calf". Rolling calf was said to be a bull in the form of a ball of fire pulling a huge chain around its neck that would make a lot of noise as the bull cruised around in the middle of the night. Check Bunny Wailer's tune "Black Heart Man", to know what the Black Heart Man is about.

 
bravos 2016-06-08 10:21:06 

In reply to cricketest

I dunno but T&T have Papa Bois!

Papa Bois (otherwise known as "Maître Bois," meaning master of the woods or "Daddy Bouchon" meaning hairy man), a French patois word for "father wood" or "father of the forest" is a popular fictional folklore character of St.Lucia and Trinidad and Tobago.

 
powen001 2016-06-08 10:41:51 

In reply to sudden

i was here deadding at Bravos post that lashing at Emir...and then see your blasphemy bout my Grandpappy!

Too bad BIM didn't have a GUTS-MAN...yours could ve been reduced by now big grin

 
powen001 2016-06-08 10:43:23 

In reply to cricketest

which country have the cunning spider?

and the old man, the guardian of the forest?


Good Question.

I have always wondered if Brer Anansi was BAJAN or Jamaican.

I am still not sure.

 
pelon 2016-06-08 10:54:12 

In reply to powen001

Brer Anansi...
I have always wondered if Brer Anansi was BAJAN or Jamaican.

try West African (Ashanti)

 
NineMiles 2016-06-08 11:02:30 

In reply to pelon

Kweku Ananse is the original spiderman cool

 
pelon 2016-06-08 11:03:32 

Speaking of fables and folklore:

I have also heard of many many stories about "De Devil". In almost all the islands really.

Apparently, you can blame everything evil on him. Take peoples soul and makes them do BADDDD things. As the mythology goes, the only way to avoid the devil is to give yourself to god and "live good"

These fables and folklore have given mankind guidance - though fear - for millenniums. They are all beautiful.

 
black 2016-06-08 11:19:39 

In reply to bravos

OMG!!! The guy is acting dumb, it was not that long ago. lol lol lol

No big deal!

 
steveo 2016-06-08 11:39:56 

I always loved me some good Ber Anansi stories found in West Indian Readers. Those books are no longer circulated in schools which I find sad and counter productive in fostering our own caribbean culture.

 
POINT 2016-06-08 12:44:52 

I believe that in most English speaking Islands in the Region people
know about Ber Anansi .

One of the tales that was interesting , is that Ber Anansi claimed that he
could drink hot water and would be
unharmed after drinking the Hot water .
So the hot water was boiling hot , he told them it was not hot enough , so it was to be placed out in the Sun to get hotter . Obviously we all know
what happened .

Anansi was always known for being a very clever person filled with all sorts of Tricks and deceitfulness .

 
Walco 2016-06-08 13:03:06 

One ah mi bredrin in Jamaica tells this story about a local judge in a Spanish Town courthouse handing down a sentence to a criminal defendant and throwing the book at him. All of a sudden a bull frog (or crappo in Bajan parlance) hops into the doorway with a bell dangling from its neck.

The stunned judge and everyone else in the courthouse stared for about 30 seconds as the frog just sat there in the middle of the courthouse entrance. Hear di judge: "Ahm ... ummm ... on second thought, the court finds the defendant not guilty. Case dismissed."

Some serious obeahman business dat smile

 
pelon 2016-06-08 13:15:10 

In reply to Walco

Potent tool. Mission accomplished I suppose.

 
powen001 2016-06-08 14:07:51 

In reply to pelon

Thanks Pelon

Your opinion usually has weight...barring the Mystery of the God head big grin

 
powen001 2016-06-08 14:09:23 

In reply to POINT

Anansi was always known for being a very clever person filled with all sorts of Tricks and deceitfulness . Anansi was always known for being a very clever person filled with all sorts of Tricks and deceitfulness .


Are you saying that Brer Anansi is a WICB board director?? lol lol lol lol

 
sudden 2016-06-08 14:14:04 

In reply to powen001

sounds more like Meeeeah

 
powen001 2016-06-08 14:17:22 

In reply to sudden

ha ha ha ha ha ha

Brer...equates to Masculine..

I know your tolerance and tastes doesn't differentiate but Brer is short for BROTHER...

MEEAH is still a woman...regardless of what you think big grin

 
sudden 2016-06-08 14:20:01 

In reply to powen001

i think you get the point. BTW which bathroom does Meeeeah use

 
powen001 2016-06-08 14:20:07 

In reply to steveo

I always loved me some good Ber Anansi stories found in West Indian Readers. Those books are no longer circulated in schools which I find sad and counter productive in fostering our own caribbean culture
.

co signed

I am not sure at which point they decided that his stories were no longer relevant to our creative thoughts?

perhaps someone wanted to sell some new books and chased after favors instead of bonafide education.

 
powen001 2016-06-08 14:21:18 

One of the best for me was V.S Naipauls BROTHER MAN.

but I digress...mind you...come to think of it...in that book he has not only the Christ like figure of Bro man but some Obeah too ent? big grin

 
Kay 2016-06-08 18:33:11 

A nice list from mudland showing what they look like with in-depth explanations

The Moongazer was a funny guy smile

 
powen001 2016-06-08 18:36:26 

In reply to Kay

ha ha ha ha

almost in 3-D!!

 
imusic 2016-06-08 18:39:59 

T&T FOLKLORE

Includes those that bravos already mentioned


It also have Leggo Beast. Ah go let bravos explain dah one.... razz

 
imusic 2016-06-08 18:44:49 

In reply to bravos
And speaking of folklore..........yuh ever get trap so? lol

Sweat Rice is a local custom given to describe the preparation of a love potion which will allow a woman to trap her lover. Before hand, your future wife had cooked a pot of rice where at the later stages of it being thoroughly cooked, she removed her garment and squatted over the iron pot causing the steam to condense on the her skin and deep between her crotch. Any sweat occurring from enchanting brew simply drops back into the pot of rice. Not a drop is wasted. The secretion is well mixed in and a pinch of salt is added to camouflage the sweet pheromone taste.

 
powen001 2016-06-08 18:44:53 

In reply to imusic

quite a few are repeated in Bimshire too...but ahm..let me see if we have one of those webpages...Bajans cant be left out of this smile

 
powen001 2016-06-08 18:51:59 

heartman , bacco and duppies

all well known.

We used to have The Bread Van on evenings after school..

supposed Panel Van that carried around the heart man inside...would pull up and grab you and cut out your heart and eat it

ha ha ha ha ha ha big grin

 
imusic 2016-06-08 18:54:47 

In reply to powen001

Soooooooooo...only ONE really "indigenous" to Bim. De ress wunna teef and claim as wunna own......as usual razz


The Heartman.....the Spooge of Bajan folklore lol

 
Walco 2016-06-08 18:55:28 

In reply to imusic

It have Leggo Beast in Babados tuh

And Jamaica

 
nick2020 2016-06-08 19:42:12 

In reply to imusic

I think it is fascinating that there are similar manifestations of folklore in the different islands.

I think the squatting over a pot of food thing is Guyanese. I am not too familiar with Obeah practices but I bet there is overlap there too in what the local witch doctors did if you wanted someone to marry you.

I have had many arguments with people about this Baccoo thing. How can anyone believe that?

 
bravos 2016-06-08 19:56:20 

In reply to imusic

When yuh get a sweat rice all in de night you outside by de cook house looking fuh she.. lol


Oh who doesn't like a lil leggo-beast,dem doh say no yinno!! lol

 
tc1 2016-06-08 21:48:25 

In reply to powen001

LMAO, too funny

 
tc1 2016-06-08 21:53:13 

In reply to powen001

boy, i still scare of the heartman and duppy

lol lol loli could handle the bacco

 
Norm 2016-06-09 00:34:25 

In reply to JohnDoe

Placing a scissors under an infant's pillow???

Same thing I thought too, but that was how the story went.

 
Norm 2016-06-09 00:38:07 

In reply to Walco

Two obeahman debating obeah repellent techniques?

Trade secrets!

 
Norm 2016-06-09 00:49:55 

In reply to imusic

only ONE really "indigenous" to Bim. De ress wunna teef and claim as wunna own

Juss like dem do with nuff cricketers too!

 
Norm 2016-06-09 00:54:36 

In reply to nick2020

I have had many arguments with people about this Baccoo thing. How can anyone believe that?

Strange things do happen. I had credible neighbors and relatives who swore about events that bore the Bacoo mark.

 
nick2020 2016-06-09 01:34:17 

In reply to Norm

These colourful stories will likely fade away as the next generation is not structured the same way we were.