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ROBERTS & CROFT SLAMS "FAST BOWLERS POOR TACTICS"

 
Emir 2019-06-20 00:04:40 

For­mer West In­dies fast bowler Joel 'Big Bird' Gar­ner stormed out of the Taunton Coun­ty Ground an an­gry man af­ter the West In­dies' sev­en-wick­et loss to Bangladesh in their lat­est ICC 2019 World Cup match on Mon­day, say­ing the bowlers didn't tar­get the wick­et but the Bangladeshi bats­men.

De­spite tal­ly­ing 321 runs, their high­est to­tal so far in the com­pe­ti­tion, the West In­dies were beat­en all over the ground by Bangladesh all-rounder Shak­ib Al Hasan, who hit an un­beat­en 124 to lead his team to a win with al­most 10 overs to spare.

At the end of the game, a clear­ly un­hap­py Gar­ner said: "These guys did not at­tack the wick­ets, they at­tacked the bats­men and they were able to han­dle the short ball and pull them away."


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FuzzyWuzzy 2019-06-20 00:17:24 

In reply to Emir

Did you read the article?

 
Khaga 2019-06-20 00:42:01 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

lol

 
Narper 2019-06-20 02:02:18 


Roberts
"You have to learn the art of us­ing the short ball as a weapon and not as your stock ball. These guys are us­ing the short ball as their stock ball, so the bats­men are get­ting used to it. You have to use it spar­ing­ly but when you do, it must be di­rect­ed prop­er­ly and it will bring the re­sults."

"The guys must al­ways think on their feet. In Eng­land the weath­er changes by the minute, so you need to get things right quick­ly. Some­times it starts off as a bright sun­ny day and as you look around it's over­cast. All these things have to be tak­en in­to ac­count when you are bowl­ing."


I wonder if bowling coach Eswick ever played in England

 
openning 2019-06-20 02:25:56 

In reply to Narper

I wonder if bowling coach Eswick ever played in England


Full name Roderick Orville Estwick

Born June 28, 1961, Christchurch, Christ Church, Barbados

Current age 57 years 357 days

Major teams Barbados, Lincolnshire, Transvaal

Batting style Right-hand bat

Bowling style Right-arm fast-medium

Relation Half-brother - ST Clarke

His brother is Sylvester Clarke
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Emir 2019-06-20 02:29:08 

In reply to openning

His brother is Sylvester Clarke



I wasn't aware of this.

 
openning 2019-06-20 02:39:38 

In reply to Emir
We never too old to learn.
A number of West Indies cricketers, played league cricket in England, some also played cricket in South Africa.
Estwick calls for wider use of video analysis, September 5, 2011/

 
Narper 2019-06-20 02:41:15 

In reply to Emir

Speak­ing to Guardian Me­dia, Butch­er, the first West In­di­an to play for Eng­land, said: "The bowl­ing is very poor at the mo­ment and it is not as if these guys are not tal­ent­ed. They are go­ing out there with the wrong mes­sage and are try­ing to ex­e­cute a plan that is flawed in these con­di­tions.

"The first game at Not­ting­ham and even the sec­ond would have hand­ed them a fast pitch. How­ev­er, as the tour­na­ment pro­gress­es a lot of crick­et is be­ing played on these pitch­es and it will not get any faster. The pitch­es will play low­er and low­er as the tour­na­ment goes on and these guys are bowl­ing short."

Butch­er, who played a lot of crick­et in Eng­land for Mid­dle­sex and Eng­land dur­ing his ca­reer in the 1980s, said the bowlers are now not bowl­ing to suit the Eng­lish con­di­tions and will pay the price for it if they do not ad­just their game­plan.

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openning 2019-06-20 02:54:06 

In reply to Narper
Is it not a continuation of the first game, where the short deliveries, especially from Russell, brought home the victory?
Is this not why they went into the match without a spinner?

 
Emir 2019-06-20 12:33:10 

In reply to Narper

I agree with Mark- re the selection process was flawed, but during this tournament, I will contimie to refrain from bad mouthing players, as we all know the squad was not a balance one.

 
Emir 2019-06-20 12:39:10 

In reply to openning

We never too old to learn.


This cliche is Not applicable for this situation.

wink

Is this not why they went into the match without a spinner?


No, it is because the squad doesn't have an effective spinner that meet the minimum standards.

 
Larr Pullo 2019-06-20 12:47:38 

In reply to Emir

I would have really liked to see them try Khary Pierre. The hallmark of a good spinner is not getting that look of fear if you get lash out the ground. Suliman Benn never got scared...Bishoo gets the yips if he gets belted around and starts bowling faster and that in turn becomes long hops. Pierre seems tough and looks like he relishes a fight.

 
Narper 2019-06-20 12:48:23 

In reply to openning
THis is my point....and the same point the expert Butcher is making....Estwick and Collymore are out of their league...as Butcher says....the bowler are going out there with the wrong message....and as Roberts say......they have to think ON THEIR feet and adapt....but they are incapable of this due to lack of experience in England...and the two coaches can't adapt either

Look we will still win one or two....but will lose plenty

We are woefully way behind the top teams

 
Emir 2019-06-20 12:54:00 

In reply to Larr Pullo

I agree with you, going into this tourney without a world class spinner was piss poor- Ashley is a good man but he is not that candidate.

 
Sangfroid 2019-06-20 12:56:14 

In reply to Larr Pullo

lol lol lol

 
openning 2019-06-20 13:51:06 

In reply to Narper

You asked,

I wonder if bowling coach Eswick ever played in England

My response was a link to his career showing he did play cricket in England.
This was too big a series to have a new management structure.

 
Kay 2019-06-20 14:19:54 

In reply to Narper

They are go­ing out there with the wrong mes­sage and are try­ing to ex­e­cute a plan that is flawed in these con­di­tions.

Well, the plan is indeed flawed if it is to execute the batsmen!! smile