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Headley averaged 37.33 against Australia...

 
Devin 2019-08-12 18:35:40 

discuss.

 
Courtesy 2019-08-12 18:47:43 

In reply to Devin

You want posters to express their views on the above fact? Skunt, there is nothing here which is debatable or warrants discussion.

You may wish to start a Virat thread to say "Virat woulda average 74.66." This would lead to a discourse.

lol lol lol

 
analyst-kid 2019-08-12 19:06:32 

against Australia

Frank Worrell avg 32.78
Everton Weekes avg 39.66
Clyde Walcott avg 57.12
Conrad Hunte avg 48.78
Rohan Kanhai avg 45.78
Gary Sobers avg 43.14
Basil Butcher avg 40.50
Seymour Nurse avg 34.16

 
analyst-kid 2019-08-12 19:26:42 

Viv avg 44.43
Lara avg 51.00
Shiv avg 49.96
Kalli avg 42.74
Greenidge avg 40.42
Haynes avg 42.13
Richardson avg 49.43
Lloyd avg 50.25
Rowe avg 27.78
Fredericks avg 38.17
Gomes avg 56.10

 
Barry 2019-08-12 19:39:15 

In reply to Devin
You saw Headley bat?
DISCUSS

big grin

 
natty_forever 2019-08-12 19:46:07 

In reply to Barry

lol lol lol

 
natty_forever 2019-08-12 19:46:33 

In reply to Devin

… you forgot to add, on "sticky wickets".

 
Drapsey 2019-08-12 20:21:59 

In reply to Devin

discuss.

Your obsession with average means that you're an average person.

Come on, Devin. Elevate yourself to the superlative(s)…

Highest score

Most runs

Best opener

Fastest scoring rate

Those are only a few examples.

 
Barry 2019-08-12 20:31:17 

In reply to Drapsey
He is competitive like many West Indians but suffers low self esteem like many West Indians and must prove himself like many West Indians-the best, the fastest, the greatest, the fattest, the best bits and pieces . . .

big grin

 
Priapus 2019-08-12 21:01:39 

In reply to Devin

Ganteaume averaged 112.00

Discuss.

 
nitro 2019-08-12 23:27:10 

In reply to Priapus

Ganteaume.

Greatest after one test lol

 
BeatDball 2019-08-12 23:34:16 

Boi, alyuh sent Devin to a nearby cafe there in his neighborhood in Toronto to recoup!
big grin razz

 
natty_forever 2019-08-12 23:55:53 

In reply to Barry

You clearlynot West Indian. If you are speak for yourself!

 
natty_forever 2019-08-12 23:57:29 

In reply to BeatDball

Devin trying his hand at trolling. Think it easy, due to the ease with which Mr. Sudden does it.

 
Barry 2019-08-12 23:58:34 

In reply to natty_forever
West Indian is a state of mind brother- the postcolonial condition- Who can deny the the absolute persistence of “vertical” threads of domination and exploitation, which have brought us here- to this place of low self-esteem, deprecation and mindless competition ... that the greatest of us must be Jamaican or Guyanese and as for the utterly stupid, like Devin or the foreign virus (left unnamed), nothing great comes from here ... Like the pits of sh!t left on a hot Bombay street . . . .

The phrase 'the postcolonial condition' is usually invoked with respect to the particular state, as well as the common circumstances, of the many colonies that were freed from colonial rule during the second half of the twentieth century and are now living on the legacy of colonialism.

and . . .
razz

 
natty_forever 2019-08-13 00:11:52 

In reply to Barry

Well I jus checked and at least one Yaadie I know of does not suffer that. Seek help for your condition. big grin

 
Barry 2019-08-13 00:46:40 

In reply to natty_forever

Well I jus checked and at least one Yaadie I know of does not suffer that.

You used gloves, right?

 
Devin 2019-08-13 01:16:39 

Headley played 22 Tests and batted 40 times, how the fack can he be the greatest anything?

16 tests against one team, 5 against another, and one against India.

It's like this Bradman foolishness and his 99.99 average. They might as well have been bowling underhand back then, at least that would've been faster. Bradman played ALL his cricket against England.

The point here is that Chris Bail Gail Fail is easily Jamaica's greatest batsman. I know it's not a great testament to Jamaican batsmanship, but ah so it ah go.

When it comes to Jamaicans and batting, it's more a case of Jamaican't.

 
Devin 2019-08-13 01:26:44 

In reply to natty_forever

Sticky wickets don't matter when every fast bowler back then used to jog to the crease, stop, turn sideways, and bowl.

 
Barry 2019-08-13 02:18:27 

Headley played 22 Tests and batted 40 times, how the fack can he be the greatest anything?

16 tests against one team, 5 against another, and one against India.


Sticky wickets don't matter when every fast bowler back then used to jog to the crease, stop, turn sideways, and bowl
.

I told you he was there- He even knew the wickets were sticky. Some type of alternative timeline too because Bangladesh was there for Headley to bat against. This is some kind of time stone-Thanos shit . . . cool
lol lol lol lol lol

 
Barry 2019-08-13 02:21:50 

In 1988, The Cricketer magazine placed him in an all-time West Indian team,[124] as did a panel of judges for another such team in July 2010,[125] while in 2004, another panel of experts named him among the top five West Indian players.

Forget this sh!t, Devin was there
rolleyes big grin

 
Barry 2019-08-13 02:23:23 

Headley was particularly effective on bad batting wickets. C. L. R. James calculated that Headley averaged 39.85 and passed fifty on seven occasions in thirteen innings on difficult wickets. According to James's reckoning, Bradman in similar conditions passed fifty once, and averaged 16.66 in fifteen innings

Who the hell is CLR James? He not from Hindia?
big grin

 
Barry 2019-08-13 02:24:59 

Official recognition came Headley's way when he was awarded the M.B.E. in 1956 and was made an honorary life member of the MCC in 1958

That "M" is not for Mumbai, so who cares?
wink

 
mikesiva 2019-08-13 09:14:41 

In reply to Devin

So what? On those days, they played on uncovered pitches that today would be deemed unsafe and match abandoned as a result.

An average of over 35 on those pitches would be a good one....

In the end, what matters is what your overall Test average is when you retire.

 
CricSham 2019-08-13 13:41:09 

Headley was very talented but 20 test matches cannot be used as a barometer of greatness. Did he have the potential to be great, I would say yes.

 
Barry 2019-08-13 16:31:38 

In reply to CricSham
Let's end all wars and make all countries equal
historic fools

George Alphonso Headley MBE, was the first of the great black batsmen to emerge from the West Indies. Between the wars, when the West Indies batting was often vulnerable and impulsive, Headley’s scoring feats led to his being dubbed the black Bradman.

In 22 Tests, Headley scored 2190 runs, including 10 centuries of which eight were against England with an average of 60.83. He was the first to score a hundred in each innings of a Test at Lord’s, in 1939. Playing in first class cricket he extended his aggregate to 9921 runs, with 33 centuries and an average of 69.86.


It's a pity George Headley played only 22 Test matches - his career was a clear example of quality over quantity. For a team that had just been given Test status -West Indies had played just three Tests before Headley's debut and had struggled to make an impact - the arrival of this classy batsman gave a much-needed boost.


Headley was clearly the best batsman in his team, but his stats still compare favourably with the world's best - not for nothing did he get the epithet of "Black Bradman". Among batsmen who've scored at least 2000 runs in Tests, only Don Bradman and Graeme Pollock have a higher average. Had it not been for the three Tests he played after the War, Headley's average would have been higher than Pollock's too.

Headley's first-class stats are equally impressive, with an aggregate of almost 10,000 and an average touching 70. Only Don Bradman and the Indian opener Vijay Merchant finished their careers with a higher first-class average


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natty_forever 2019-08-13 19:00:32 

Headley's first-class stats are equally impressive, with an aggregate of almost 10,000 and an average touching 70.


22 tests might be to little they say to tag him with greatness, how the 10k and 70 avg look?

 
natty_forever 2019-08-13 19:01:18 

Where is the fellow with the tapes, would be nice to get a first hand look. big grin

 
Devin 2019-08-14 02:31:32 

In reply to mikesiva

If sticky wickets were a real thing back then, many players would've died or suffered serious injury from being hit in the head.

 
Khaga 2019-08-14 02:37:10 

In reply to Devin

Their romanticism with the cave age is absurd..

 
Barry 2019-08-14 06:04:08 

In reply to Khaga

Name the Indian players from this cave age... we were just schooling a b!tch ... big grin

 
Barry 2019-08-14 06:04:46 

In reply to Devin

Bring out the tapes... cool

 
WIForever 2019-08-14 12:14:48 

In reply to CricSham

Totally disagree. Do you understand the rarity of Tours in that time period. It must have took him 10 years to play those tests. In fact I think he played a few after the war. Batsmen play 22 Tests in 2 years these days.