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Jason Holder is unbalancing this team.

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-22 21:58:49 

He is not good enough to be a Bowling allrounder. Need him to bat in the top 6. Should be playing the role Stokes plays for England.

 
Baje 2019-08-22 22:04:41 

In reply to voiceofreason
Is Jason not our highest rated test bowler? Is he not one of the top ten rated test bowlers?

 
Ray123 2019-08-22 22:09:45 

In reply to Baje

Some comments don't need reply. He just trying to find a place fuh Cornwall so give he a chance

 
silver 2019-08-22 22:30:54 

In reply to Baje


You should know that was coming once Jimbo did not play

 
imusic 2019-08-22 22:33:27 

In reply to voiceofreason

Isn’t he the ICC #1 rated all rounder in test cricket?

 
Cornfused 2019-08-22 22:34:06 

Jaason Holder is the NUMBER 1 TEST ALLROUNDER according to the ICC

Our top three bowlers in the Test Arena since 2017 have been Holder, Gabriel and Roach

 
doosra 2019-08-22 22:37:01 

The side needs balance one side too light

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-22 22:50:00 

In reply to Baje

Maybe so ... That is just to one good year but everybody knows Jason Holder is no STRIKE Bowler. # 1 Allrounder based on a dearth of allrounders in Test cricket.

If West Indies is to progress they need strike bowlers...Once Roach and Gabriel rest...Them Man does fall sleep pon Holder and Cummins. Bat in six like Stokes and put in a strike bowler!

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-22 22:54:34 

Ben Stokes:

Test Bat ave 34.75
Test bowl Ave 32.43
Test s/r 54.75


Jason Holder:

33.64 Bat Ave
Test bowl Ave 27.69
S/r 63.0


His bowl average is pretty good because of his meagre economy of 2.60 but his s/r but he has to bowl 10 overs to get 1 wicket? Is that acceptable as a first change bowler?

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-22 23:00:08 

In reply to voiceofreason

This coming from de man that say Rawle gine mek dem bawl.

 
doosra 2019-08-22 23:01:46 

In reply to voiceofreason

Sr 60 and below is good for 1st change

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 00:04:50 

In reply to doosra

Could it not be better. If Stokes is 2nd change and he has a s/r of 55? We trying to get to the next level here Bro.

 
natty_forever 2019-08-23 00:07:06 

In reply to voiceofreason

Even at 7 and we still can play the extra strike bowler. We choose to groom Chase.

 
Drapsey 2019-08-23 00:11:00 

In reply to voiceofreason

How was the 'atmosphere' at the ground today? Good vibes?

I'm anxious to get the low-down from an actual attendee.

 
mittheimp 2019-08-23 00:25:25 

In reply to voiceofreason


Idiotic post... whats his bowling stats for last 18months? If you have nothing intelligent to say don't say anything.

 
Cornfused 2019-08-23 00:30:47 

If Devon Smith were a bowler VOR would say he would balance the side

Man arguing against facts, VOR your reasoning has let you down

 
Chrissy 2019-08-23 00:31:23 

In reply to voiceofreason

He is the #1 test all rounder in world cricket. Please spare me.
Please post his test stats in the Caribbean for 2019.

I think half of allyuh buss yuh heads.

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 00:55:56 

In reply to mittheimp

Idiotic is you fools who are unable to think outside the box.'


Holder would better serve the team batting at # 6 as a batting allrounder. I compared his stats to Stokes who plays asa a batting allrounder and they are pretty much on par.


Holder's record is great this past 18 months but it has been helped by a favorable home schedule plyaying th elike sof Bangladesh and a rebuilding SRI Lanka Link Text


Bowling away 36.7 4 / s/R 81. Batting away 23.00.

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 00:57:30 

In reply to Chrissy

How many class allrounders are there in Test cricket today?

 
BeatDball 2019-08-23 12:20:13 

Is wuh alyuh have against WI cappo? Shoite man...Runs seh he can't set a field; this one seh this; this one seh that. The blooming chap can't get a facting break! The problem is that WI batsmen have to cement themselves at the crease & make Runs! WI bowlers are doing a fine job. Full stop. evil

 
jacksprat 2019-08-23 12:30:48 

In reply to voiceofreason

Jason Holder is unbalancing this team. He is not good enough to be a Bowling allrounder.

Yet you had no problem with the clapping allrounder, Sammy, being at the helm, unchallenged, for 4 straight years, while you rationalized this travesty by claiming "there [is] no one else!"

Why don't you use the same yardstick to judge others that you use to judge players from your favoured territory?

You are shameless joker who is just interested in pushing your homeboys!

At least Jason Holder is able to make the team on merit and we no longer are subjected to the embarrassing spectacle of our captain being a laughingstock throughout the cricketing world!!!

YOUR AGENDA IS VERY TRANSPARENT !!

 
Narper 2019-08-23 12:41:40 

In reply to voiceofreason

He is not good enough to be a Bowling allrounder.


maybe....but he can make the side as a batsman....he made a test double ton against England last year

 
doosra 2019-08-23 12:47:05 

In reply to voiceofreason

Courtney Walsh over a career was 58

60 is not bad dude

 
Chrissy 2019-08-23 13:22:01 

In reply to jacksprat

Just laugh bro - this place is a riot

 
brians_da_best 2019-08-23 13:23:12 

In reply to voiceofreason

You can't be for real. He is arguably the best all rounder in the world right now.

Has picked up wickets at will, and scored heaps and heaps of runs.

 
Dukes 2019-08-23 13:37:18 

In reply to Narper

.he made a test double ton against England last year


BRO BRO BRO
That double ton was THIS YEAR!!!!!

 
Larr Pullo 2019-08-23 13:52:49 

In reply to Dukes

Yeah that was in January.

 
JamMack 2019-08-23 13:53:27 

In reply to voiceofreason

As usual you reek of insularity. Holder is capable of batting at 6. Sammy was never capable of batting above 8 and was just a clapper. Never heard you say anything then. You know that if Cornwall was picked you would have kept your mouth shut. You are as transparent as a scandal bag. rolleyes

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 14:40:26 

My point for those who are missing it is that Jason Holder would be better serve this team playing as a batting allrounder.

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 14:40:57 

In reply to Dukes

The same England who getting dem arse cut in dem backyard?

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 14:44:19 

In reply to JamMack

I never apologize for my insularity! It is justified the nonsense we have had to put up with all these years. Which continues today!

Now in my opinion...Holder would better serve this team batting at 6. He has a 30 plus average and so does all of our top order batsmen except for Bravo whose average will probably end up there soon.

 
JamMack 2019-08-23 14:50:14 

In reply to voiceofreason

I've been preaching for Holder to bat at 6 for some time now, but like you I get a beat down when I state my opinion. So I agree he should bat at 6.

 
mikesiva 2019-08-23 14:52:11 

In reply to natty_forever

Yes, I would prefer to see Holder bat at seven.

It's time Holder took up the batting all rounder slot.

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 14:57:50 

In reply to mikesiva

Not 7.. It has to be 6.

 
analyst-kid 2019-08-23 15:04:35 

I MORE concerned about Cummins. This is the first time I ever backed him and I was not a Cummins fan.

Cummins continues to disappoint....so much contenders for his play and he cant take a wicket....he seems useless

 
Narper 2019-08-23 15:05:38 

In reply to Dukes

That double ton was THIS YEAR!!!!!

big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin
Tell VOR that

 
Discourse 2019-08-23 15:20:41 

In reply to JamMack

So how does this reek of insularity...

Now in my opinion...Holder would better serve this team batting at 6. He has a 30 plus average and so does all of our top order batsmen except for Bravo whose average will probably end up there soon.

Other posters on this thread have inadvertently enforced this point by highlighting the double hundred.

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 15:47:39 

In reply to Narper

You don't see that you all reinforcing my point!!!

If he is capable of a double hundred at 7/8 then why not bat him at 6 and play the extra Bowler????


Geez!

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 15:53:23 

In reply to Discourse

I don't apologize for my insularity. Who don't like it loss...But these fellas head harden to rass!

 
embsallie 2019-08-23 15:57:03 

Jason is not the problem. Miguel Cummins is.

 
spider 2019-08-23 16:15:21 

Jason Holder is the best player in the team

 
NineMiles 2019-08-23 16:26:53 

In reply to voiceofreason

Moving Captain Holder up the order could adversely affect his batting ala Joe Root. wink

 
Chrissy 2019-08-23 16:34:29 

In reply to NineMiles

SO dat is di Root of di problem? wink

 
Discourse 2019-08-23 16:57:00 

In reply to Chrissy

lol lol

 
aliaskid13 2019-08-23 20:31:11 

In reply to voiceofreason

don't listen to them Voicy. You are right on the money. Imagine Holder is the #1 test allrounder in the world, and he batting at number 8. He should be batting at 6. Holder push himself down the order to accommodate his friends. If they wanted a truly balanced side, He would bat at 6, the keeper bat at 7, followed by the three pacers and a spinner and call it a day.

 
NineMiles 2019-08-23 21:01:20 

In reply to Chrissy

SO dat is di Root of di problem?


Thought you knew.... Not every Cappo can move at will from 3 to 4 and vice versa like the Greatest. lol

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-23 22:14:49 

In reply to aliaskid13

Maybe to keep his average intact. Hmm NO? Just not making sense. We can't even muster 200 and a Batsman who not to long ago scored 200 is batting at 8?

smile

 
doosra 2019-08-31 14:47:02 

A barely catch it

before it went to archive

twas literally the last one on the last page

haha

come heen vor big grin

 
tc1 2019-08-31 15:19:03 

In reply to voiceofreason

Serously, move away from your Tv or watch your pasrtime sport baseball.

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-31 16:30:56 

Again i reiterate he should be batting in the top 6! The weak side of this team is its BATTING!

 
tc1 2019-08-31 17:09:07 

In reply to voiceofreason

I hard understanding the game after 25 and having the rum shop as the only reference .

 
voiceofreason 2019-08-31 17:50:49 

In reply to tc1

This coming from a Man who can make an assessment of a spinner after one innings.