IMO, by virtue of being a member of the CWI Task Force into the selection process and system for all West Indies cricket, he has virtually disqualified himself from being a selector. Insider knowledge it's called?
Further, anyone who participated in that process should not be considered for the position of selector.
If West Indies cricket is to move forward there cannot be any hint of impropriety in the mgt of the game.
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Miles Bascombe should resign immediately as selector.
2019-10-17 12:23:12
2019-10-17 12:45:13
In reply to Courtesy
if that was disqualifying why was he allowed to apply?
2019-10-17 13:06:57
In reply to sudden
I don't know. But considering all the mishaps so far from this admin, it is hardly surprising. And further, this is commonplace in the Caribbean.
We have to start dismantling the barriers which militate against decency and progress.
2019-10-17 13:07:33
I had my say about Bascombe already but Bajans are supposedly not allowed to comment because we had our turn so now it’s someone else’s to enjoy the spoils.
Browne for example was death yet the only players successive selection committees have come up with are no-brainer new players like King and Walsh Jr in white ball cricket, given Cornwall a crack and hired old lieutenants in Ramdin and Simmons.
The thing is selectors all over the world are entitled to put their own signature on teams nevertheless the supposed criteria because it’s all subjectivity with marginal players.
But hey nepotism is okay for appointing selectors but not selectors picking their homies.
2019-10-17 16:40:39
I see you have support elsewhere
2019-10-17 16:44:38
In reply to mkcharles
She started her post before mine.
However, I don't engage in posturing. If I feel strongly about an issue and in this case, the inappropriateness of an appointment of an individual, I would not fail in asking for a resignation.
It may not happen, but my misgivings would have been registered.
2019-10-17 17:08:13
In reply to Courtesy
I questioned his selection from day one...to me he not worthy of that selector position.
2019-10-17 17:15:12
In reply to Wasp
What does he bring to the table ahead of other persons in the region who have served deligently as selectors. What has caused him to leapfrog ahead?
In the interest of transparency and accountability such decisions need explanation. Stakeholders have an interest in these matters too.
2019-10-17 17:34:09
In reply to Courtesy
If he gives the job up would you
find a different job for him so that
he can maintain his family?
2019-10-17 17:39:00
In reply to Yadi
No. I would not run West Indies cricket like a social welfare or any "frenism" establishment. And CWI should not be run in this way.
2019-10-17 17:53:01
Well Bascombe must be a very personable person to have risen so fast in the CWI set-up, he bypassed more experience former players for such a important job, I wish him luck, hopefully he makes whoever give him the opportunity proud.
2019-10-17 18:48:45
Is Courtesy mad?
2019-10-17 18:57:01
This would be like asking the current Guyana government to resign. 
2019-10-17 21:09:26
In reply to Yadi
Really?
He should get a job that others are better qualified to perform and who also have Pickney and thing to feed?
Or he gets a pass but not the players like Nurse, Brooks or Carlos when they get a homie pick?
No wonder we have to wait for the truly entitled guys like Darren Bravo to make a fool of us all before we get it. You don’t achieve anything long term without professionalism and hard work even if you are talented and it’s given to you or in his case, returned to you, on a plate. Eventually you will be found out.
2019-10-17 23:37:21
In reply to Courtesy
If you are correct then that is not on all fours.
By virtue of his position he would be ineligible at this time.
Pity Mason was troubled by it but at the time it was announced didn’t have your grasp ...as you report I should say.
I’ll have to do my own digging..after all you is the man that say that Dessie was a shoe in 
2019-10-18 00:11:17
In reply to powen001
Anything with a hint of impropriety should be avoided at all costs in institutions such as CWI and government. This is wince-inducing to me man.
2019-10-18 14:44:20
In reply to mkcharles
It's NOT my decision.
It is President Sheritt's decision.
2019-10-18 15:55:18
This Miles Bascombe pick has the prime minister's horse-trading written all over it.
I would have been cool if they had picked Sammy as a selector instead of the fan Bascombe.
At least Sammy knows about cricket, and he played it at the highest level.
2019-10-18 16:10:33
In reply to Courtesy
If Miles Bascombe is poster jen, he has my full support.
2019-10-18 21:26:53
Bascombe being on the commitee should not preclude him or anyone from being a selector.
2019-10-19 12:02:10
In reply to Courtesy
You are correct
Yadi
That is a slippery slope bro.
I am numb from the amount of so called decent people who watch Trump do this sort of utter nonsense daily but we in the Caribbean usually hold ourselves to a higher standard of governance...
It is just plain wrong...
The fact that he was offered the position in the first place reeks of impropriety
2019-10-19 13:04:57
In reply to powen001
first we must understand the details of his position in the task force
2019-10-19 14:23:19
In reply to powen001
But it is not Miles' fault.
2019-10-19 14:38:30
In reply to Yadi
Another blunder by the admin.
How can you be part of a process, and also a candidate for a position?
2019-10-19 15:14:26
In reply to Courtesy
De man pull a Dick Cheney?
2019-10-19 16:15:38
In reply to Barry
Yes
2019-10-19 17:56:26
In reply to TheTrail
How do you know Bascombe doesnt know anything about cricket?
So a person who has played for the West Indies, Windward Islands, Combined College and St. Vincent and the Grenadines doesnt know anything about cricket?
2019-10-19 20:05:36
In reply to Oilah
Bascombe kinda led a search committee that found himself???
2019-10-19 20:08:08
In reply to powen001
I agree that Bascombe's appointment was inappropriate, but what higher standards are you referring to exactly? Conflicts of interest abound throughout the Caribbean and most people just overlook them
2019-10-20 03:05:27
In reply to Courtesy Imagine setting the test then writing the exam .... we cool with that
2019-10-20 13:29:28
what was Bascome's role in the Selection Task Force?
2019-10-20 21:06:44
This like you take your kid to try out for a team as goalie , ant then realize that the current keeper is the coaches son!
2019-10-20 22:03:53
In reply to Ragga007
“He [also] does not have enough first class cricket experience in the region. He may have played, yes, but as far as experience goes to be one of the two selectors? No, I have a problem with that.
He added: “My biggest problem is that he, as a member of the Task Force – even though he wasn’t involved in putting his name [forward] – should have withdrawn being a member of the Task Force,” Sir Andy stressed.
Bascombe’s appointment came as a surprise, especially considering his tepid playing career which yielded 24 first class matches at an average of 21, and a single Twenty20 International for West Indies against England eight years ago.
He was also earlier this year named to the Selection System Task Force, chaired by CWI vice-president and fellow Vincentian, Dr Kishore Shallow, as one of three independent members alongside former Test players Ramnaresh Sarwan and Philo Wallace.
Bascombe also serves as vice-president of the St Vincent and the Grenadines Cricket Association headed by Shallow.
Sir Andy, however, supported Harper’s appointment as chief selector, pointing out that the former West Indies head coach ticked all the boxes.
“I’m pleased. You’re looking for somebody with vast cricket knowledge, somebody who knows the game, has played the game at the highest level, who has been captain [and] coach so I don’t have a problem with that,” the Antiguan outlined.
Shallow, who chaired the interview panel during the recruitment process for selectors, defended Bascombe’s appointment, however, arguing that the process had been a “robust” one that had seen the former player pass every test put before him.
“The recruitment process was as robust as you could actually imagine,” Shallow said.
“One of the first things we did was identify a group of players based on interviews and feedback from persons across the region. Miles’s name surfaced through that process. Some 20 persons were put forward and approved by the board, we then wrote to them [to ascertain] their interest and availability.”
Shallow said that of the 17 candidates who responded positively, Harper, Bascombe, Lockhart Sebastien and Hendy Wallace came through as the final shortlist based on their performance in a test exercise.
According to Shallow, Harper and Bascombe then scored highly in the interviews which followed.
“I can tell you that both Roger Harper and Miles Bascombe were outstanding, with no disrespect to the other two gentlemen,” Shallow revealed.
“They stood out in terms of understanding the modern day of selecting where we are now in a data driven environment. It’s not about an eye for cricket anymore, we’ve gone past having an eye.”
He added: “My biggest problem is that he, as a member of the Task Force – even though he wasn’t involved in putting his name [forward] – should have withdrawn being a member of the Task Force,” Sir Andy stressed.
Bascombe’s appointment came as a surprise, especially considering his tepid playing career which yielded 24 first class matches at an average of 21, and a single Twenty20 International for West Indies against England eight years ago.
He was also earlier this year named to the Selection System Task Force, chaired by CWI vice-president and fellow Vincentian, Dr Kishore Shallow, as one of three independent members alongside former Test players Ramnaresh Sarwan and Philo Wallace.
Bascombe also serves as vice-president of the St Vincent and the Grenadines Cricket Association headed by Shallow.
Sir Andy, however, supported Harper’s appointment as chief selector, pointing out that the former West Indies head coach ticked all the boxes.
“I’m pleased. You’re looking for somebody with vast cricket knowledge, somebody who knows the game, has played the game at the highest level, who has been captain [and] coach so I don’t have a problem with that,” the Antiguan outlined.
Shallow, who chaired the interview panel during the recruitment process for selectors, defended Bascombe’s appointment, however, arguing that the process had been a “robust” one that had seen the former player pass every test put before him.
“The recruitment process was as robust as you could actually imagine,” Shallow said.
“One of the first things we did was identify a group of players based on interviews and feedback from persons across the region. Miles’s name surfaced through that process. Some 20 persons were put forward and approved by the board, we then wrote to them [to ascertain] their interest and availability.”
Shallow said that of the 17 candidates who responded positively, Harper, Bascombe, Lockhart Sebastien and Hendy Wallace came through as the final shortlist based on their performance in a test exercise.
According to Shallow, Harper and Bascombe then scored highly in the interviews which followed.
“I can tell you that both Roger Harper and Miles Bascombe were outstanding, with no disrespect to the other two gentlemen,” Shallow revealed.
“They stood out in terms of understanding the modern day of selecting where we are now in a data driven environment. It’s not about an eye for cricket anymore, we’ve gone past having an eye.”
It was all setup by the Shallow guy.
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2019-10-21 02:04:05
In reply to TheTrail
In other words, Andy Roberts is in support of someone who was part of the glory days of West Indies cricket, in Roger Harper, but doesn't support Miles Bascombe, because he doesn't have the credentials and the pedigree as the person he supports.
Well guess what, I can show you where that rational by Andy Roberts doesn't hold water when it comes to coaching and scouting.
If you look at any professional team sport, be it hockey, baseball, basketball, football, etc., the vast majority of legendary or great coaches, hardly any was ever a legend or great as a player.
You know why?
Most legends or most great players have the natural abilities to be great on the field of play, but when it comes to the X's and O's, it is always the bench player, the ones who know the game inside and out, but who simply don't possess the naturally abilities to be great on the field of play, are highly likely to be GREAT coaches.
So Andy Roberts' rational for opposing the selection of Bascombe while supporting the selection of Harper is one that is dated. And even if you look at the the past, it has no merit in professional sports.
For example, Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player in the history of that sport. But guess what, he was a terrible coach. He coached for 6 years, professionally, and not once did that team made it to the playoffs.
So with all his greatness on the ice, he was a terrible head coach off the ice.
Now take a seat at the back of the class where you belong.
2019-10-21 02:31:22
In reply to Ragga007
But Roger Harper was a mediocre player, nothing great about him. So, he may yet prove to be a good coach. Let's wait and see.
2019-10-21 03:00:31
In reply to TheTrail
They stood out in terms of understanding the modern day of selecting where we are now in a data driven environment. It’s not about an eye for cricket anymore, we’ve gone past having an eye.”
What a load of rubbish! It is not about the eye anymore?
And here is the contradiction--they came to that conclusion through an interview. Why didn't they rely on data instead of their "ears".
2019-10-21 13:09:46
Interesting. Something similar- a lot worse actually- happened in Pakistan cricket.
Misbah Ul Haq sat on the cricket committee that recently reviewed the performance of and then fired the Pakistan coach Mickey Arthur.
A few days after that Misbah was appointed Pakistan national coach. And also ChIef Selector!
2019-10-21 17:41:09
In dis data driven selection process, will the number of chances a batter gets before reaching 30 be taken into account, will the ability to bat for more than one session be of any consequence? Likewise will the number of dropped catches or missed stumpings be analysed for bowlers?
All dis talk about data driven selection policy means nothing if the parameters are not known and are still open to subjectivity.
And more on topic, it is obvious dat Bascombe wud do well when interviewed cause he had just sat thru the formulation of a selection policy. Something dat other candidates did not have the benefit of
2019-10-29 12:03:58
I suppose CWI is waiting this one out with the hope that it will be forgotten and normal programming resumes.
2019-10-30 20:04:15
In reply to Courtesy
It was enough to find out that Badcombe leapfrogged other more experienced candidates but now to learn that he was part of the selection process, pun not intended, is a bit much.
He can't be insular now can he?! Anyway we wouldn't know.
2019-10-30 22:56:27
If I understand correctly, the issue here is that most subscribe to the POV that it is fundamentally wrong for someone to be selected or chosen out of a group of candidates to an entity, while simultaneously being a decision maker regarding who gets selected to that same entity.
That doesn't seem right on the face of it and I would agree.
Does that same POV apply to a cricket captain when selecting the final XI?
The captain is part of the decision making process to determine the final playing XI. The captain, by virtue of his/her position as captain, is barring injury or illness, also going to be in the final XI.
Can/should the captain be selecting his or her self? Or is he/she only giving input in selecting 10 others?
I'm not saying that the case with Bascombe's appointment as a WI selector is not troubling given that conflict of interest.
I am saying that the POV is not black and white....it may not apply in every instance as a blanket statement.
2019-10-30 23:38:04
In reply to imusic
This is a classic ignorantio elenchi argument.
And this is why it is so: The captain is part of the decision making process but he did not qualify himself to be on the team.
Bascombe was part of the decision making process but it appears to me that he qualified himself to be a selector.
Your argument does not support your conclusion because it starts off with a false equivalency.
And if the premise is false the inference and the conclusion will also be false.
2019-10-31 01:08:39
In reply to Walco
I agree that Bascombe's appointment was inappropriate, but what higher standards are you referring to exactly? Conflicts of interest abound throughout the Caribbean and most people just overlook them
The Standard that speaks to best practice ought to be adhered to.
Thats my only Mantra here.
Its why I am asking for someone to step forward and explain why Bascombes appointment was critical to the strategic planning and why he has to be an exception to the norm.
No comment from on high says to me they simply ignoring ...so more of the same OR...doing something they know is wrong.
and to your other point..New Prez supposed to change from the Cabal behaviour
2019-10-31 11:13:31
In reply to Walco
Bascombe kinda led a search committee that found himself???
Much like what happened recently at QEH in Bim.
2019-10-31 15:22:11
In reply to Walco
Bascombe kinda led a search committee that found himself???
Wasn't the job of the selection task force to come up with a selection policy? How is that construed as searching for selectors?
The selection policy does not give guidelines of who should become a selector, rather, what the named selectors should follow/do to aid their decision making when selecting a team.
Maybe I don't understand english that well....
2019-10-31 15:25:18
In reply to jen
They saying being the person who came up with those "guideline" would have an advantage in an interview session.
2019-10-31 19:53:30
In reply to jen
Are you saying dat all the candidates for Selector were made aware of the selection policy guidelines dat Mr. Bascombe was fortunate to have helped develop to help them with the interviewing process?
2019-10-31 21:27:21
This is what happens when you don't read stuff for yourself
Bascombe’s appointment came as a surprise, especially considering his tepid playing career which yielded 24 first-class matches at an average of 21, and a single Twenty20 International for West Indies against England eight years ago.
He was also earlier this year named to the Selection System Task Force, chaired by CWI vice-president and fellow Vincentian, Dr Kishore Shallow, as one of three independent members alongside former Test players Ramnaresh Sarwan and Philo Wallace.
Bascombe also serves as vice-president of the St Vincent and the Grenadines Cricket Association, headed by Shallow.
Sir Andy, however, supported Harper’s appointment as chief selector, pointing out that the former West Indies head coach ticked all the boxes.
“I’m pleased. You’re looking for somebody with vast cricket knowledge, somebody who knows the game, has played the game at the highest level, who has been captain (and) coach, so I don’t have a problem with that,” the Antiguan outlined.
He was also earlier this year named to the Selection System Task Force, chaired by CWI vice-president and fellow Vincentian, Dr Kishore Shallow, as one of three independent members alongside former Test players Ramnaresh Sarwan and Philo Wallace.
Bascombe also serves as vice-president of the St Vincent and the Grenadines Cricket Association, headed by Shallow.
Sir Andy, however, supported Harper’s appointment as chief selector, pointing out that the former West Indies head coach ticked all the boxes.
“I’m pleased. You’re looking for somebody with vast cricket knowledge, somebody who knows the game, has played the game at the highest level, who has been captain (and) coach, so I don’t have a problem with that,” the Antiguan outlined.
So Bascombe was not part of the process to choose the selectors. He was a member of a Task Force mandated by CWI to review the Selection System.
It's goals and objectives are CLEARLY OUTLINED HERE
What's also clear is that the Task Force has no jurisdiction over who is ultimately appointed to the selection panel.
Sir Andy Roberts objected to Bascombe's appointment to the selection panel on 2 grounds:
1 - He was a member of the aforementioned Task Force which to Mr Roberts amounted to a conflict of interest and maybe represented an unfair advantage over other candidates
2 - Although Bascombe played at the FC level, he did not have sufficient experience playing at that level
Had either or both of Ramnaresh Sarwan &/or Philo Wallace been appointed to the selection panel, would Sir Andy have felt the same? Probably not regarding FC experience, but they were also members of the task force.
CWI VP Kishor Shallow's defence of Bascombe's appointment to the selection panel is reasonable enough.
However, the fact that Bascombe was also the VP of the SVGCA, an entity of which Shallow is President, calls into question the OPTICS of the appointment. It leaves room for speculation that a quid pro quo could have existed and that's the primary reason why Bascome got the gig.
CWI could counter by saying they appointed the people who were the best during the process and the best should get the job
Either way, a new administration that came in promising to do things better and with more transparency should know that the OPTICS of Bascombe's appointment could undermine not just the same "transparency and accounatibility" they insisted would be present, but the trust of fans, media, and sponsors alike.
2019-10-31 21:51:24
In reply to imusic
So to conclude, you have detailed recommendations coming from the Task Force which Miles Bascombe is privy to and on the other hand the selection of selectors to fulfill these strategic objectives arising out of the TF recommendations.
It is clear to me, that any fore knowledge of these detailed recommendations by a member of the TASK FORCE would help that member who wishes to be a selector prepare adequately for the job interview.
In short. the selection and recruitment of this particular selector was not a fair process. The other potential selectors were disadvantaged because they had no detailed knowledge of the job requirements and hence could not have prepared adequately as compared to the individual with insider information.
As I said very early, the new "CWI, should have avoided any hint of impropriety."
2019-10-31 22:08:03
In reply to Courtesy
I dont remember anything to do with Cricket in the Caribbean not mired in churlishness.
We are lead by a doltish board of old men, that time has made outdated and irrelevant , decades ago. They are well versed in insularity, petty vindictiveness, total control of the individual stakeholders, a prestige job of ego building,irregardless of financial or ICC standings towards the entity.
They report to themselves, and the citizens cannot do
anything about it. Review the past three decades.
Any individual with an iota of common sense would avoid this integer.True integrity, planning and leadership are
missing from such a commodity when put under a microscope.
If you are expecting results, play the lottery, you will have better odds.
2019-10-31 22:20:16
In reply to sgtdjones
Let's hope the Don Wehby recommendations on the governance structure which I understand will be available in the third week of November will be implemented in full.
2019-10-31 23:26:44
In reply to Courtesy
In short. the selection and recruitment of this particular selector was not a fair process. The other potential selectors were disadvantaged because they had no detailed knowledge of the job requirements and hence could not have prepared adequately as compared to the individual with insider information.
Roger Harper was selected. And not just selected, but also appointed Chief selector. He wasn't on the Task Force which means he wasn't privy to any detailed knowledge of the job requirements.
However, it doesn't mean he didn't have an advantage over other candidates. He was already a WI selector in a previous administration....giving him an advantage in experience.
So too Lockhart Sebastien. He was on the last selection panel under Courtney Browne, reapplied and got the job. At least Bascombe had a single appearance for WI. Sebastien never played for WI...even thogh he had an extensive and decent FC career.
Hendy Wallace was chairman of selectors for Barbados Pride and I'm not even sure Hendy Wallace even played for barbados in regional FC cricket
Yet not a word about Hendy Wallace's appointment on the selection panel.
If the objection is about unfair advantage......they all had advantages....in different ways
If the objection is about lack of merit re: playing career.......all but Roger Harper are questionable on that front
I maintain that Bascombe's appointment is curious at best...especially given the Task Force issue AND his relationship with VP Shallow
But if this is a main bone of contention regarding Bascombe's appointment:
Bascombe’s appointment came as a surprise, especially considering his tepid playing career which yielded 24 first-class matches at an average of 21, and a single Twenty20 International for West Indies against England eight years ago.
How does Hendy Wallace get appointed?
2019-11-01 00:29:10
In reply to imusic
You are a BIG JOKE or perhaps you do not understand the issue.
Otherwise you would have spared me the garbage/gibberish above.
I maintain that Bascombe's appointment is curious at best...especially given the Task Force issue AND his relationship with VP Shallow
WTF (Wed, Thurs, Fri).
And btw, voila, "a curious at best appointment" is the crux of my argument which CWI should have been avoided at all costs in its early existence attempting to execute a platform of change.
...or perhaps, just perhaps, I do not know what "curious at best" means.
But I hope that this gibberish under reference was not written by a drunken sailor?
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