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Jamaica v Mextico

 
camos 2023-07-12 10:19:29 

10 pm Eastern

 
nitro 2023-07-12 11:35:58 

In reply to camos

Pre match press conference

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camos 2023-07-12 12:24:15 

The two semis can go either way!

 
nitro 2023-07-12 14:31:05 

In reply to camos
I predict Panama to beat USA.

Mexico, who are the favorites, should defeat Jamaica.

 
camos 2023-07-12 14:40:12 

In reply to nitro
We will score on Mexico but I am worried about our defense.

 
XDFIX 2023-07-12 15:31:23 

A match preview

 
nitro 2023-07-12 15:45:43 

In reply to XDFIX

Improving but still check your facts. Mexico could not have defeated us in the semis in 2015 and 2017 when Jamaica reached the final on both occasions.

We are now ranked 59.

 
HumbleCalf 2023-07-12 15:49:24 

In reply to nitro
Agree with improving

 
hubert 2023-07-12 16:19:54 

In reply to camos
That's past my bedtime nowadays. But will try and watch..
Can't see Boyz winning and if goes to penalties.......


smile

 
camos 2023-07-12 16:22:12 

In reply to hubert We have better talent than Mexico, but Mexico has more balance.

 
Larr Pullo 2023-07-12 16:25:50 

In reply to camos

Jamaica has the best GK in the competition. He shhould be good for a clean sheet against Mexico. BTW he should have already been playing in Europe!

 
Castled 2023-07-12 16:52:40 

Mexico's problem is ruthless finishers since Borgetti and Hernandez the Mexicans have struggled to find deadly strikers.

 
birdseye 2023-07-12 17:32:42 

In reply to Larr Pullo

he should have already been playing in Europe!

[quote]Was just discussing the same thing with a friend last night, just wondering if there is something in his profile/background that’s keeping him out. He is an excellent goalkeeper. He is a former member of the Jamaica Defense Force, I hear. 3 times MVP in MSL

 
camos 2023-07-12 17:41:06 

In reply to birdseye

He is a former member of the Jamaica Defense Force


He went to University of Connecticut, never heard of him in JDF!

There was an EU stipulation that countries sending players have to be ranked 50 and above by FIFA .

 
birdseye 2023-07-12 20:21:11 

In reply to camos

He went to University of Connecticut, never heard of him in JDF!

I stand corrected sa. Just last night speaking to a friend of mine in St Elizabeth, himself a former baller, told me that Andre Blake is a former JDF member

 
Brerzerk 2023-07-12 20:38:44 

In reply to camos
below

 
camos 2023-07-12 20:43:17 

In reply to Brerzerk

lol ok!

 
FanAttick 2023-07-12 21:27:57 

In reply to camos

Simoes is back lol

 
camos 2023-07-12 21:39:58 

In reply to FanAttickI did not know Boxhill still into football,is he still in Mandeville?

 
HumbleCalf 2023-07-12 21:57:42 

In reply to camos

"Mextico", long time I have not heard that one lol lol

 
FanAttick 2023-07-12 22:08:04 

In reply to camos

I have no idea lol

 
Cricket_101 2023-07-13 01:47:31 

Panama 1 US 0

 
camos 2023-07-13 01:57:53 

all tied up!

 
Chrissy 2023-07-13 02:32:04 

In reply to nitro
You were correct
Panama 5-4 PKs

 
Cricket_101 2023-07-13 02:32:23 

Panama ticket to final…

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 02:33:41 

In reply to nitro



Good first call!

 
Chrissy 2023-07-13 02:40:15 

Oh skites Mexico score in minute 2

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 02:59:11 

Whisper must get a run in this match none of these guys up front is as fast and skillful as him!!

This fast pace game being played by Mexico is killing Yard!

 
camos 2023-07-13 03:04:28 

In reply to XDFIX
can he play defense?

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 03:18:09 

In reply to camos

He got pace and skill! Players up front and back not doing anything much!

Ask uncle Butler he’ll tell you Whisper can play any position on the pitch

 
HumbleCalf 2023-07-13 03:28:38 

So we are not having a good day…it looks like we have no confidence passing the ball to teammates

 
HumbleCalf 2023-07-13 03:29:33 

Let’s see if we can regain confidence in the 2nd half

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 03:33:50 

In reply to HumbleCalf

It’s the shock and awe principle employed by Mexico

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 04:25:44 

In reply to XDFIX

Poor coaching

 
HumbleCalf 2023-07-13 04:33:19 

In reply to FanAttick

Come on

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 04:41:41 

In reply to HumbleCalf

He should have subbed off Bobby Reid and brought on Whisper at 60 minutes

 
JoeGrine 2023-07-13 05:04:22 

My team ratings:

BLAKE (7/10) - cannot be faulted on the goals. I was impressed with his feet usage.
BROWN (4.5/10) - gets careless with his overlapping creating space behind him for the Mexicans to exploit.
LOWE (5/10) - his worse game of the tourney where all his flaws came to the fore.
BERNARD (6/10) - save for that wild tackle, he played a pretty solid game. He's steadily making a case to be the central defender who partners Pinnock.
BELL (5.5/10) - doesn't offer much offensively (his goal against Guatemala notwithstanding) and got beaten on a few occasions tonight.
LATTIBEAUDIERE (6/10) - workmanlike but unspectacular.
LAMBERT (5/10) - didn't offer much tonight on the offensive end. Was tasked with covering the midfield on defense but it was too much of an ask.
BAILEY (5/10) - perhaps too generous a mark. He doesn't bring much to the national team.
REID (5/10) - will never shine in coach Grim's system, but he serves the purpose of coming back from the wing to help on defense.
GREY (7.5/10) - easily our best player on the field. He exudes class with almost every touch.
ANTONIO (5.5/10) - hard to be his best self when there's not a creative midfielder so he is left to make something out of the lobs from the goalkeeper and defenders.
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LEMBIKISA (5.5/10) - he should be our starting right back. Easily more polished than Brown.
NICHOLSON (5/10) - lots of running around most of it somewhat aimless.
RICHARDS/JOHNSON - no grade- didn't play long enough
*******************************************************************
COACH (3/10) - you wrongly didn't select your most creative midfielder (Ravel Morrison) or even Omari Hutchinson. You state Morrison isn't playing competitively, however, neither were Richards or Mariappa and they were selected!
If your system is designed to omit a creative midfielder your system will be shredded by decent teams as happened tonight. Mexico showed no respect to our midfield on offense or defense.
Coach - you will either have to change your formation or get players who can play it which would mean finding at least 5 new players.

 
granite 2023-07-13 08:23:50 

Hold your heads high Yard you have done well and we expect you to go one better,WC 2026,this was always going to be a difficult task but I feel better to come. cool

 
hubert 2023-07-13 09:48:27 

In reply to JoeGrine

Just woke up. Did not watch at all...I have not seen much in this Jamaica team
that most on here are touting..
Happy that I did not see the game as I expected Mexico to unleash on them as
while there is some talent, they are not a cohesive team with too many misfit
pieces. Only Gray has really impressed me as an International player long with Blake.
Messi, without the 'i" is more hype than substance also.
Hope he coach invests in 'Whisper' going forward but I don't think the coach knows
the players so I will give him some slack for now.

 
nitro 2023-07-13 09:55:04 

The midfield is a major problem. Hopefully the players coming in September can fix this.

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 11:45:45 

In reply to nitro

I agree. Our midfield was missing in action

 
camos 2023-07-13 11:49:50 

always worried about the defenders, they are bad!

They know nothing about closing down space and angles, Mexicans had all the room and time they needed.

 
birdseye 2023-07-13 11:52:42 

In reply to hubert That was a really disappointing performance from Jamaica. I have no idea what their game plan was. Maybe being a Man City fan has spoilt me. it was difficult to figure what Jamaica game plan was. The Mexicans pressed like hell and the Jamaicans facilitated them by keeping the ball concentrated on one side – they did not spread the field and keep spacing, to make the opposition run from side to side. To get very good at anything, you got to practice, and practice, and practice. Jamaica didn’t look like a team that had practiced theme, if they had one it was not a good one.

 
Larr Pullo 2023-07-13 11:55:48 

What was the final score?

 
Chrissy 2023-07-13 11:57:11 

Bottom line - Mexico came out with the speed of Bolt and JA never recovered.
Agree re the midfield problem.
Mexico and Panama both deserve to be in the final.

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 12:01:23 

In reply to Larr Pullo

0-3

 
JoeGrine 2023-07-13 12:12:46 

In reply to camos


always worried about the defenders, they are bad!

They know nothing about closing down space and angles, Mexicans had all the room and time they needed


I think you are being a bit harsh on the defenders. When your midfield is being shredded/overrun because the Mexicans exploit your lack of creativity there, your defenders will always be under pressure. If we had a player in the middle who could turn the game with defense splitting pass the Mexicans would have been a bit more cautious in attack fearing a counter. Who was going to provide such a pass, Lambert (overmatched at this level and more known for his defense), Lattibudaire (a solid defensive midfielder), Bailey (the less said the better)?

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 13:31:40 

In reply to JoeGrine

Bailey was not as bad as you’re making him out to be..nor was Gray as good last night as you would have us believe
Gray was however our best player throughout the tournament


Here are the player ratings from one of the leading soccer websites:

Blake 6.0
Brown 6.6
Lowe 6.3
Bernard 6.3
Bell 6.7
De Cordova Reid 6.4
Latibeaudiere 6.8
Lambert 6.9
Bailey 6.6
Gray 6.8
Antonio 6.8


Those ratings take into account metrics like possession, aerial duels, ground duels, passing accuracy, key passes, dribble completion rates etc
None of our players had a terrible game but by the same token none had a great game either…

Most of the Mexican players were rated low to mid 7’s…

 
nitro 2023-07-13 15:14:48 

In reply to FanAttick

So in other words Mexico was simply brilliant.

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 15:18:17 

In reply to FanAttick

Man I refused to watch after half-time not seeing Whisper brought on!!

Yardies were stunned with the shock and awe principle!!

You saw a bit of that from the Guatemalans - the difference with the Mexicans they up the tempo and didn’t allow the Boyz to settle!

 
imusic 2023-07-13 15:32:22 

Very disappointing result

This was Mexico’s 2nd team and RBZ were at full strength

I truly expected RBZ to comfortably win this tournament given their player pool versus those of the other teams in the tournament.

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 15:42:18 

In reply to imusic

Reggae Boyz like the West Indies do not interpret today’s game within the context of the art of war!!

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 15:45:22 

In reply to JoeGrine

I agree with your rating!!

 
JoeGrine 2023-07-13 15:50:34 

In reply to FanAttick

player ratings from one of the leading soccer websites:


I am a bit non-lazy so I choose to do my own eye test. The two Jamaicans who showed class last night were Gray and Blake. Bailey added nothing to the game.

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 15:56:41 

In reply to Chrissy

Not sure about a deserving Panama! If Yard did their home work they’d be more deserving! After the Guatemalan match the coach said the Reggae Boyz game display was not good enough to beat Mexico on hindsight he was correct!

Remember now that was Mexico’s B team!

 
XDFIX 2023-07-13 15:58:51 

In reply to JoeGrine


I say Amen to that!

 
camos 2023-07-13 16:02:20 

coach made tactical error, Bailey does not know how to play off a guy like Antonio, he is also very inefficient as a finisher, his strength is playing wide with lots of room to run. Mexico was able to isolate Antonio and kill our approach.

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 16:03:06 

In reply to JoeGrine

I am a bit non-lazy so I choose to do my own eye test. The two Jamaicans who showed class last night were Gray and Blake. Bailey added nothing to the game.


You obviously have cataract in one eye and glaucoma in the other…like the late Uncle Prim from Norbrook
I don't know what game you were watching but it surely isn't the one I and millions of others (who know football) watched… lol lol

The team didn’t play well…

We didnt have a functioning midfield…there was no service to our forward players..The defenders were playing side to side which just made us a sitting duck for the Mexican press…Bailey was the only one of the front 4 that I saw passing the ball to his mates up front - Antonio and Gray were guilty of trying the impossible when they had a clear pass to a teammate who was wide open. Bailey created the best chance the Boyz had of scoring when he dribbled past 3 Mexicans and whipped a pass across the face of goal but his teammates were caught napping ….

None of our players had a great game…the overall team lacked cohesion. the coaching was inept…he brought on Nicholson for Lambert (who was on a yellow card). I have no problem with this but he should have subbed Bobby Reid and brought on Whisper at the same time..

Russell and Lembikisa were two of ours best players when we played Mexico in the Azteca but none were in the starting lineup…

 
nitro 2023-07-13 16:17:07 

In reply to FanAttick

Are you saying JoeGrine is Katarack the sound man?
lol

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 16:19:48 

In reply to nitro

I wouldn’t be surprised lol

 
Cricket_101 2023-07-13 16:29:44 

After conceding the early goal, JA seem discombobulate and lose focus... started making long passes, which isn't their game... Coach has work on dem metal stamina.

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 16:46:41 

In reply to JoeGrine

Exhibit 1: Bailey’s Key Pass
Exhibit 2: Gray’s Hail Mary strike
Exhibit 3: Antonio’s selfish strike when a team mate was wide open. Look at where Nicholson was standing.

 
JoeGrine 2023-07-13 18:59:20 

In reply to FanAttick

The team didn’t play well…

We didnt have a functioning midfield…there was no service to our forward players..



I said all of that already, so who needs an eye check?


Antonio and Gray were guilty of trying the impossible when they had a clear pass to a teammate who was wide open.


Are you saying they developed "baileymylitist"?

the coaching was inept


I alluded to that earlier, reading and comprehending (especially when you are critiquing) are essentials.

but he should have subbed..... brought on Whisper at the same time..


took you three pages to finally get to say that. You need to sharpen up on your fandom.

 
FanAttick 2023-07-13 19:07:35 

In reply to JoeGrine

You wrote a whole meaningless diatribe on player ratings that you pulled out of your ass…
In three bullets above I presented video evidence that your assessment was rubbish lol

Who should I believe - you(blind Bartemaus), or a soccer rating website that millions around the world rely on as the gospel of soccer statistics?

 
JoeGrine 2023-07-13 19:38:28 

In reply to FanAttick

1) Your familiarity with the contents of a particular aperture duly noted.

 
FanAttick 2023-07-14 00:07:53 

In reply to JoeGrine

Maverick weighs in

 
Castled 2023-07-14 00:09:06 

In reply to FanAttick

One of the better games from Mexico lately. They outran the sprint factory boyz. Mexicans kept their shape throughout the game their passing and movement on and off the ball was a joy. They were sharp.

The plucky Boyz were second best to most balls. They couldn't live with the silky skills and pace of Montezuma's clan. The second goal was out of the top drawer. Unstoppable, the goal of the Gold Cup thus far.

 
FanAttick 2023-07-14 00:40:17 

In reply to Castled

Agreed…

 
JahJah 2023-07-14 04:17:53 

In reply to XDFIX

lol

Why are you even responding to imusic? You don't see that he's throwing shade?

All that 2nd string, and B team is just chat. Never once heard France call their WC team a B team despite missing a handful for starters. Your team is your team, and no one with half a brain thought Jamaica would win the whole tournament comfortably. lol

 
FanAttick 2023-07-14 11:32:10 

In reply to JahJah

Here is a Tittie who is fair and balanced

 
XDFIX 2023-07-14 17:06:43 

In reply to JahJah

I was really hoping the boyz would have at least made it to the finals! I didn’t have much confidence after the Guatemalan match knowing that the Mexicans play is similar!!

 
XDFIX 2023-07-14 17:06:43 

In reply to JahJah

iMusic is a Reggae Boyz fan!

 
XDFIX 2023-07-14 17:06:46 

In reply to JahJah

I was really hoping the boyz would have at least made it to the finals! I didn’t have much confidence after the Guatemalan match knowing that the Mexicans play is similar!!

 
nitro 2023-07-14 17:39:19 

In reply to FanAttick

The RBZ coach can only use the 4-4-2 system? I think 4-3-3 suits the team he has.

 
JoeGrine 2023-07-14 17:49:19 

In reply to nitro


The RBZ coach can only use the 4-4-2 system?


Seemingly so and he does not have the pieces for that formation.

I think 3-5-2 suits us best (this can easily convert to a 5-3-2 on defense) or the 4-3-3 you mentioned. Given our personnel, the AM is the most crucial position, yet it is the one he did not take to the Gold Cup. Antonio cannot live by long clearances from the GK and defenders. You need creativity to move the ball down the field on the grass instead of "outta mi life" kicks. Enter Ravel Morrison (or Omari Hutchinson).