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HEADLINE: Guyana Overcomes Marshall?s 125*

 
CaribbeanCricket.com Oct 24, 2004, 4:27:48 PM 

from MICHELLE McDONALD in Guyana Xavier Marshall?s century in his first season at this level could not prevent Jamaica from being sent packing by Guyana, in another thrilling encounter at Bourda. Making good use of the home advantage, Guyana propelled themselves to a three-wicket win over the Jamaicans to move into the semi-final round in Barbados. [url=http://www.caribbeancricket.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1562]Full Story[/url]

 
Larr Pullo Oct 24, 2004, 4:42:01 PM 

WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 
Rastaman Oct 24, 2004, 4:44:21 PM 

I'll say it again. Jamaica's approach to this OD tournament was their downfall. With such a strong batting line up there is no reason Jamaica should be batting first when they win the toss. With strong batting it's better to chase the target as the batting can be adjusted as the situation warrants. Further, the Jamaican bowling attack was suspect from the start so why put your suspect bowling to win the game??? I think the cappo and the coach have to answer for Jamaica's stupid approach and poor showing. It was a stupid strategy from the start and it is one of the primary reasons for Jamaica's shortfall. A suh ni see't!!!!!!!!!!

 
Larr Pullo Oct 24, 2004, 4:46:09 PM 

In reply to Rastaman: Light skin people rule....in Jamaica.... :lol: :lol:

 
Rastaman Oct 24, 2004, 4:51:20 PM 

In reply to larr:Yuh couldn't help out with that blatant error in the first line??? What yuh good fah???? :lol: :lol:

 
Larr Pullo Oct 24, 2004, 4:55:04 PM 

In reply to Rastaman: Star if I am not asked for input I cannot give input just so..... :lol: :lol:

 
FrankSubaran Oct 24, 2004, 6:25:58 PM 

In reply to Yammie: it hot mi dear, but hush nuh with due respect to robert haynes, the sagga bwaay dem need a richards or kanhai or a [color="red"]foreign coach [/color]to drop some licks in dey ra$$ good thing though. like how things finish up early, is pure rum and boogie at asylum now, and pu$$y galore...........fi daaaaaaays

 
laconic-1 Oct 24, 2004, 6:29:27 PM 

In reply to Rastaman: see with Yammi, her yeyes were clouded. :D

 
wahmename Oct 24, 2004, 7:42:02 PM 

Good Game. Jamaica would have won if they didn't give up 35 extras. Congrats to Xavier Marshall who might be consider for selection. I think he should be consider for selection with the showing here, in trials and the youth competition. He would have definitely be selected year and half ago with the experimentations but now they might want more cautious especially with his pure talent. PURE TALENT BASED ON PERFORMANCE NOT A FLASH OF THE BAT. If Dwayne Smith makes the team and Xavier doesn't........something wrong. Anyways Congrats to Guyana. Hope that Narsingh Deonarine will put forward his talents in the semis.

 
Chally1 Oct 25, 2004, 4:17:29 AM 

In reply to wahmename: Man stop making excuses for this over hyped team nah.. This team need guidance. They are too ARROGANT.. typical of most yardies.. :lol: :lol:

 
garyg Oct 25, 2004, 5:27:02 AM 

This Jamiacan team has an awsome array of talent, far superior to their opponents but they playeed bad cricket from day one aggainst lollipop teams. I cannot say where it went awry but the coach and cappo should resign. Think Ja would do well with a specialist batting coach, maybe Dujon. haynes has done well over the years but such a supremely gifted batting lineup should have done better. Xavier, Sammy and Onry are the 3 most gifted batters in the region apart from Lara. Onry, Wavell and the Eleganyt One are also the 3 best Odi allrounders who have done well on the world stage. So a very gifted side that just did not show up. But no need to cry, simply fire the coach and cappo ahire a specialist batting coach. The beautiful thing about life is that, amidst adversity, there is always something positive and we see the emergence of the Wonderkid Xavier. I suspect he has no equal in the world, in his age group. He seems very complete, evoking memories of Headley, the most complete batter in history( Not that Xavier or any other batter is as good as Headley). Xavier is balanced, compact, has good appetite for scoring, very consistent, agressive and is blessed with flair. Lets wish him the best , lets hope they not rush him into international cricket as this treasure is not to be messed with.

 
JohnDoe Oct 25, 2004, 6:32:23 AM 

As seen on various threads: The captain Breese looks too much like massa!!! I guess last year the captain Robert Samuels was too black. If you fellas know how ridiculous you beginning to sound.

 
Isah Oct 25, 2004, 7:11:04 AM 

In reply to wahmename: Xavier, definitely one for the future when?????????????????

 
natty_forever Oct 25, 2004, 8:38:28 AM 

GaryG ... I know u don't like that Breese is cappo, kool, but its his 1st OD tournament as cappo and yes we did not go further but all in all he did not do a bad job from what I heard listenning to the commentary, The constant however is the coach, and year after year we fail to produce with arguably one of the (b4 this) top 2 teams in the tornament and playing at home to boot ... aside JA fans need to take all the leafs out of Guyana's book, see what [u]real[/u] crowd support can do for a [u]Team[/u].

 
natty_forever Oct 25, 2004, 8:40:52 AM 

Oh ... on the note of foreign coach ... if he is Gus Logie ... I say yes!!!!

 
Dre_Day Oct 25, 2004, 8:50:28 AM 

How the fcuk did JA bowl 27 WIDES???? That was the game right there ..

 
wahmename Oct 25, 2004, 9:30:53 AM 

How does arrogant and management play into affect at during the game? JA gave way 35 runs. In a tight game, you won't win.

 
Larr Pullo Oct 25, 2004, 9:33:46 AM 

In reply to natty_forever: Dude...Breese is a dunce..... You should have seen how he gave away the game against trinidad.

 
wahmename Oct 25, 2004, 9:39:12 AM 

Xavier definitely one for the future BUT Narsingh will show himself in Semis and Final if he bats 3 or 4 not 5. WHEN? Remember this his second time around in regionals with Guyana team. With the Windies B, he did very well and last year fair BUT he has 2 fifties and really only failed once so far. He is up here with the run scorers but doesn't stand out YET.

 
garyg Oct 25, 2004, 9:43:06 AM 

Oh ... on the note of foreign coach ... if he is Gus Logie ... I say yes!!!!
. I wouldn`t want Gus to coach this team. Our biggest problem is batting, the side is highly gifted but the batters have shown poor application. A Rohan kanhi or Des haynes will do. Xavier needs guidance from a technically sound and established batter. Breese has to be the worst Ja cappo of all times too. He has been miserable both in one dayers and 4 dayers, should not even be on the team. Instaed of using the other bowlers, he used himself to stone the guyanes bats, conceding about 6 runs an over, more than what Guyana needed. No friend ting, its a disgarce and Breese must go.

 
Patch Oct 25, 2004, 12:21:20 PM 

Umm...can someone spell out what the error is in the first line???? I read and re-read it and I still dont see what the error is....Larr...??? Someone??? Yammie???

 
Yamfoot Oct 25, 2004, 4:51:55 PM 

In reply to Patch: I had that Xavier had scored his maiden 'first class' hundred, but 'first class' only refers to four day games..... ....and when ah tell allyu ah don't know much about cricket oonu tell me say I'm fibbing. anyway, editor spotted the error and corrected it.

 
Tropical Oct 26, 2004, 1:18:13 PM 

I would like to see xavair Marshall and Devon smith open for the WI and Morton to replace Lata as a pure batsman in the future

 
Rastaman Oct 26, 2004, 1:40:45 PM 

In reply to Yamfoot:

I had that Xavier had scored his maiden 'first class' hundred, but 'first class' only refers to four day games.....
Hmmm...well, yuh getting there but not quite, Yammy!!!!!! Official 3-day games are also classed as first-class!!!!!!!!!

 
Larr Pullo Oct 26, 2004, 1:44:19 PM 

In reply to Rastaman: u mean like some of the three day tests we've been playing in? :D

 
faada Oct 26, 2004, 1:45:30 PM 

In reply to larr: Very few games that we play in can be considered 'first class' :lol: :lol:

 
Rastaman Oct 26, 2004, 1:45:53 PM 

In reply to larr:Yes, those too!!! Even the two-day ones also!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

 
TheHorseMan Oct 26, 2004, 2:13:47 PM 

In reply to Tropical:

would like to see xavair Marshall and Devon smith open for the WI and Morton to replace Lata as a pure batsman in the future
are u ... (1) an ignoramus? (2) a dunce? (3) a juvenille? (4) a cow's ass? so do tell............for starters......what will happen to gayle?

 
SirGarny Oct 26, 2004, 10:51:51 PM 

Ladies and gentlemen and fellow Jamaicans; lend me your ear. I agree with all those who are calling for the head of Garth Breeze. A captain has to be able to minimize bad bowling during the coarse of a match! Chop off his bowling hand if you have to but 35 free runs is simply unacceptable! The coach is partly to blame because I'm sure it's not the first time the bowlers showed these tendencies. What a disgrace. The batsmen did fairly well but I would have liked to see more from the other specialists, given their talent level and class. As usual Gayle and the Elegant One showed their value with the ball. Now regarding other matters. Please! Please! Please! let's not rush young Mr. Marshall into the forefront. One commenter suggested a Marshall / Devon Smith opening partnership. That would be a total disaster. The opening pair must have balance and neither of these young stars has the maturity to be subservient to the other! They are simply too agressive to open together. When Greenidge emerged, he had the experienced Roy Fredericks to offer guidance. When Haynes joined Greenidge and Greenidge got going early, Desi had enough sense to feed him the bowling and sit back and enjoy the show. I remember only too well the last time we put a pair of youngsters together to open the batting. Do the names Campbell and Williams ring a bell? I rest my case. I will say one thing about the senior side. It will be hard to keep all these Jamaicans, Gayle, Samuels, Hinds, and this youngster Marshall, off the side! Remember Marlon and Wavell only lost their place due to injury and, of all the aforementioned, Hinds is the oldest at age 26. I'm looking forward to young Marshall joinig them eventually. I hope they bring him along slowly. We don't need to rush him like we did Leon Garrick. Besides, I thing the WICB have learned their lesson when it comes to putting too many inexperienced players into the fold, no matter what the talent level. Imagine! Marlon, Wavell, Gayle, Marshall and Jermaine Lawson, when he returns! That's half the side! While I'm disappointed about our loss to Guyana, I'm excited about our potential regarding the senior team. As usual, I'm sure the Bajans will have something to say about this. Now if it were 5 of them on the senior side, they feel it's an entitlement. But 5 yardies! Oh no, that's blasphemy!! Here's to insularity.

 
Tropical Oct 27, 2004, 1:15:28 PM 

In reply to TheHorseMan: if you knew anything about cricket you would have known by now that Gayle is not a qualified opening batsman i see gale as a middle order batsman\allrounder ask yourself what is the duties of an opening batsman and tell me how many good swing seamers gale has been successful against put gale at #5or 6 you cricket slown

 
faada Oct 27, 2004, 1:25:40 PM 

In reply to Tropical: What's Gayle's average this year? What have all the other openers since Haynes/Greenidge averaged? After checking those figures, tell me why Gayle is not qualified to open.

 
Tropical Oct 27, 2004, 1:28:37 PM 

In reply to SirGarny: I do agree with a lot of what you are saying but if you look closer at my statement regarding Marshall and Smith i said in the future you overlook that part of my sentence, where i disagree with you is that i do not see Lawson to be effective again, remember he is starting all over again the guy we miss is Jerome Taylor he was very promising i am also not too certain about Hinds but i hope Samuels knee holds up, I will also like to see more of Washington

 
Tropical Oct 27, 2004, 1:43:00 PM 

In reply to faada: G ayle has a 38 av in 47 test matches i never said Gayle is not a test player i am just saying in my opinion he is not a qualified opening batsman too many times he is out before the shine leaves the ball i also think he is a lot better bowler than he gets credit for

 
Yadi Oct 27, 2004, 1:58:35 PM 

In reply to Yamfoot: We understand ... but we like the substance of what you report ... therefore a typo here or there ... will be forgiven :lol: . PS. Don't talk certain word ... mek Zimzimma hear :wink: !

 
Tropical Oct 27, 2004, 2:09:12 PM 

In reply to Yadi: What is your thoughts of a foreign coach lets say over a LLoyd or Haynes

 
garyg Oct 27, 2004, 3:33:50 PM 

In reply to Tropical:

G ayle has a 38 av in 47 test matches i never said Gayle is not a test player i am just saying in my opinion he is not a qualified opening batsman too many times he is out before the shine leaves the ball i also think he is a lot better bowler than he gets credit for
. But tropical, why would you say such a thing? Hasn`t Devon partnered gaylke and did not occupy the crease nor made more runs than gayle, so on what basis then would you even think of selecting Devon over gayle. You did not answer Faad question either, why ? He asked how much gayle averaged this year. Well let me help you I suspect its over 50, this year and over 1000 runs, So how could you even think of dropping gayle tropical? rather disingenious of you man.

 
Tropical Oct 28, 2004, 4:40:55 AM 

In reply to garyg: Gentlemen please read what i say carefully, i never said that gale should be drop all i am saying is that i think he should bat lower possibly #5 or 6 that is all i am saying