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HEADLINE: Samuels: I did not support abandoning Indian tour
CaribbeanCricket.com
Oct 23, 2014, 5:35:29 AM
Speaking on PowerPlay on Power 106 FM, the Jamaican batsman said his focus was on playing cricket and as a result, he did not attend most of the meetings, which were organised by One-Day captain, Dwayne Bravo.
West Indies abandoned the tour after the fourth One-Day International (ODI) in Dharamsala.
The developments followed a protracted payment structure dispute between the players, the West Indies Cricket Board and West Indies Players' Association.
According to Samuels, he was ready to go to Eden Garden to play the fifth ODI.
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lalaboy
Oct 23, 2014, 5:44:02 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Looks like Cameron, Hinds and now Marlon saying JA ready to go it alone
hubert
Oct 23, 2014, 5:45:37 AM
googley
Oct 23, 2014, 6:14:01 AM
Marlon is the captain of his own destiny!
warr
Oct 23, 2014, 6:36:43 AM
Arawak
Oct 23, 2014, 9:36:40 AM
"I decided to do with talking with my cricket bat on the field as I went to India on a mission. It was all about cricket for me," he said.
Well done Marlon. You continue to climb in my estimation both on and off field.
Unions are parasites. Good call to stay out of it.
anandgb
Oct 23, 2014, 9:40:33 AM
JamMack
Oct 23, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
In reply to lalaboy
Them too coward to go it alone and they lack the vision.
jcveletta
Oct 23, 2014, 10:05:18 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
great stuff marlon! respect mate.
Commie
Oct 23, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
Samuels for WIPA president.
And WI cappo.
Kurt
Oct 23, 2014, 10:09:26 AM
I would have respected Marlon more had he actually attended the meetings, acquainted himself with the issues, made an informed decision, and then argued the merits of that decision.
By marlon's own admission, he did not know nor care about the matters of contention, and certainly made no attempt to encourage the players to see out the tour. In effect, he did not vote either way but abstained.
jacksprat
Oct 23, 2014, 10:14:54 AM
In reply to Kurt
I would have respected Marlon more had he actually attended the meetings, acquainted himself with the issues, made an informed decision
I totally agree!
In that respect he is just like Sammy who did not even bother to educate himself about the issue the last time aaround when he decided to scab.
It is instructive that both are not,I understand, members of the union.
I wonder if they will refuse any union benefits-on principle?
Commie
Oct 23, 2014, 10:17:12 AM
In reply to jacksprat
That Sammy obsession is either going hurt you mentally or have you tear off your own foreskin at an inopportune moment.
Not healthy.
There is no such thing as a scab.
You are not living in 12th century Europe in the midst of war.
Admin
Oct 23, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
In reply to Commie
There is no such thing as a scab.
Shiv, Ramdin, Roach, Sammy, Tino, etc. would beg to disagree.
_r
birdseye
Oct 23, 2014, 10:20:45 AM
In reply to Arawak
Mnnnnnn
.good to see you have an open mind re Marlon
Commie
Oct 23, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
In reply to Admin
You don't notice your list is growing.
I repeat there is no such thing as a scab.
When Ramnarine decided to run from wipa to join ttcb aka wicb he did not do so on a basis of principle.
He left when things were bad and was looking to upgrade.
So...lets leave this scab thing for the hard crust you picking on your nose.
jacksprat
Oct 23, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
In reply to Commie
There is no such thing as a scab.
Really?
And there is no such thing as a union either!!
birdseye
Oct 23, 2014, 10:27:32 AM
In reply to Commie
There is no such thing as a scab.
Well, its a hard coating on the skin formed during the wound healing I am sure u are aware of that def.
.and its also A worker, often temporary, who crosses a strikers' picket line, going to work in place of the strikers
..one is a healing process one is a degenerative process
.i leave it to you to decipher in this context
Cleg
Oct 23, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
In reply to Kurt
I would have respected Marlon more had he actually attended the meetings, acquainted himself with the issues, made an informed decision, and then argued the merits of that decision
.
NUFF SAID!!!!
birdseye
Oct 23, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
In reply to Cleg
And how did you conclude that Marlon was no acquainted with the issues?
Discourse
Oct 23, 2014, 10:52:50 AM
In reply to Cleg
he did not attend MOST of the meetings, which were organised by One-Day captain, Dwayne Bravo.
Is Bravo WIPA's rep for the players??
Discourse
Oct 23, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
In reply to birdseye
exactly!
and...
"decided to do with talking with my cricket bat on the field..."
Chally1
Oct 23, 2014, 11:08:15 AM
Marlon this was not the time to speak. Great you doing your talking with your bat but now was not the time to say this..
Cleg
Oct 23, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
In reply to birdseye
And how did you conclude that Marlon was no acquainted with the issues?
Nuff said....means Nuff said!!!!
The player is NOT a member of WIPA....so his `opinion` is of no significance in this issue!
Btw,did he volunteer to have the 75% deductions from the `relevant fees`?
Pacy
Oct 23, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
In reply to Kurt
I would have respected Marlon more had he actually attended the meetings, acquainted himself with the issues, made an informed decision, and then argued the merits of that decision.
Exactly! He could have even persuaded the team to complete the tour which was his preference by explaining the merits.
This I am my own man and dont care what the other 14 are doing is not a good mindset but afterall that is the way he is always. So no qualms there
Arawak
Oct 23, 2014, 11:27:34 AM
In reply to Pacy
Exactly! He could have even persuaded the team to complete the tour which was his preference by explaining the merits.
Pixie dust and hugs all around.
Narper
Oct 23, 2014, 11:32:10 AM
In reply to Cleg
Btw,did he volunteer to have the 75% deductions from the `relevant fees`?
Obviously Helegance still does not understand he would take home a massive pay cut..
Cleg
Oct 23, 2014, 11:37:09 AM
In reply to Pacy
He could have even persuaded the team to complete the tour which was his preference by explaining the merits
.
What merits?
Btw,are you mindful of who actually `terminated` the tour?
hubert
Oct 23, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
Cleg
Oct 23, 2014, 11:44:28 AM
In reply to Narper
Obviously Helegance still does not understand he would take home a massive pay cut..
Good
ish player but `clueless` of whats going on around him.
Dos`nt think much inside the box...and even less outside!
birdseye
Oct 23, 2014, 11:44:54 AM
In reply to Narper
Obviously Helegance still does not understand he would take home a massive pay cut..
Maybe he understands that there are more important things in life than personal wealth
.i am not agreeing with WIPA/WICB
..but some time honoring commitment has its place
..the players F_up by committing to go on tour and maybe were deceived by their union and management
.anyway honor your commitment- then say no mas until things are straightened out
Carib_man
Oct 23, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
Arawak
Oct 23, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
In reply to Narper
Obviously Helegance still does not understand he would take home a massive pay cut..
If I understand correctly, his contract is negotiated completely outside WIPA, between his agent and the WICB.
carl0002
Oct 23, 2014, 12:19:44 PM
West Indian cricketers only use agents to find them additional endorsements and when them get in trouble.
stone
Oct 23, 2014, 1:24:52 PM
marlon ur statement just clarify my suspicions about u
the way u batted in that 2nd match tells me ur not a team player.
and ur article prove that i was 100% right u abandon ur men at a crucial time
u ain't got no shame fcuking deserter!!!!
imusic
Oct 23, 2014, 1:28:45 PM
This from the individual that use "Dunciness" as his defence in his spot fixing case
Oh well, at least he honest bout some things
BerksOwl
Oct 23, 2014, 10:02:45 PM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Solidarity is what we need Marlon.
Pacy
Oct 23, 2014, 10:11:50 PM
In reply to Cleg
I am not saying his idea would have got through with the players but still as a team member , a senior one at that, he could well have given his point of view than just say "I dont care what you do"
dayne
Oct 24, 2014, 6:48:03 AM
Samuels by voicing his opinion kind of show his insensitivity to the team unity. I think saying his opinion at this moment is bad timing.
hubert
Oct 24, 2014, 7:26:06 AM
In reply to dayne
Now that things are where they are..it is good to have it in the open because there will be changes in all aspect of West Indies cricket and the best starting point is to resolve conflicts and differences from all quarters.
I will say it again. You don't strike on your host's soil.
But did they actually strike or only threatened to strike ?
The only entity that could abort the tour is the WICB. And they,all agreed, dropped the ball.That is known universally. It is and was their responsibility to avert that abortion by any means necessary,particularly where INDIA is involved.
The matter was not handled well from before the outset of the tour and 20/20 hindset cannot put humty dumpty together again.
I did not and could not support a strike, but I understand why the players took the action they did.
The baddest or weaklings of men are actually cowards until their backs are against the wall.
The key is not to let situations reach that point where one party is left with no apparent way out.
To the players credit, they did play some games ..all they wanted was an understanding ear and clarity
in the heat of the dispute.
Sadly there was too much talk where not needed and silence when good Common sense was required.
But as they say,Common sense is not common.
In other words there was no Good leadership
dayne
Oct 24, 2014, 8:00:23 AM
In reply to hubert
The WICB being the people with the most authority mis-handled the issue, the tour should not have started in the first place if they knew the players felt so strongly about the agreement or lack of agreement. Once it started the players should have at least completed the 50 over games for the sake of the sponsors and fans. Now the situation has evolved into a bigger mess people should be careful as to what they say.
dcbreds
Oct 24, 2014, 11:20:18 AM
I have finally found the correct song for Marlon. More specifically:
He smiles in your face [when in India]
All the time he wants to take your place [as captain], the backstabber.
hubert
Oct 24, 2014, 11:42:08 AM
In reply to dayne
The tour had to start but it appears the WICB did not see a problem at the time and probably was not totally aware that communication problem within WIPA and players existed to thae extent it was.
In any case they as you pointed out, as the Authority, should have moved with alacrity to smooth the waters.
But as it transpired, the dufus President Cameron did not see it as a WICB problem.Having settled the long contentious MOU problem after many moons, the Board thru the Dufus appeared satisfied and cared not when the situation arose.
So here they are on their knees to the BCCI and the dufus is still president
dayne
Oct 24, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
In reply to hubert
Well put, Cameron is leading from behind. He should have been in India sorting this matter out, knowing how financially important India's tours are. If he holds his position I hope he learns from this issue, because he is ultimately responsible for whatever goes on with WI cricket.