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HEADLINE: Ramdin - a very, very lucky man
CaribbeanCricket.com
Nov 16, 2014, 3:17:59 AM
It is written somewhere in the Good Book that you reap what you sow. That, however, and obviously does not mean anything to the West Indies cricketers who recently embarrassed the West Indies in India.
Surprisingly, eight of them, eight of the players who recently and unceremoniously pulled out of the tour to India, including Test match captain Denesh Ramdin, have been selected by the West Indies to tour South Africa, a tour that takes place even before the dust of shame has settled over the West Indies.
What is surprising, however, based on the West Indies history, is that all of the players who were in India were not selected, including the ring leader, ODI skipper Dwayne Bravo.
Maybe the plan was to pick some and omit some while hoping to get away with it.
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DIEHARD
Nov 16, 2014, 3:48:18 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Kmt. Jackassery
Admin
Nov 16, 2014, 3:51:46 AM
Tony Becca, I love you, but it's time to put away the pen and go into retirement. It's just time.
_ryan
jacksprat
Nov 16, 2014, 3:54:26 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Surprisingly ..., eight of the players who recently and unceremoniously pulled out of the tour to India, including Test match captain Denesh Ramdin,.... have been selected by the West Indies to tour South Africa...What is surprising, however, based on the West Indies history, is that all of the players who were in India were not selected, including the ring leader, ODI skipper Dwayne Bravo.
Could Tony Becca be anymore out of touch?
Someone should alert him that Bravo has not played test cricket since 2010; Sammy has retired from test cricket; and Pollard has yet to make his test debut so technically none of those-among the so-called ringleaders-was dropped from the test squad to South Africa.
Meanwhile,in all this, Tony Becca has tellingly absolved the WICB of all responsibility for all the problems in West Indies. If it would only be 'firm but fair' and banish all the recalcitrant players each time they start to grumble, or threaten industrial action to secure their rights, all would be well in West Indies cricket!
So much has passed him by while he was sleeping!
black
Nov 16, 2014, 3:55:19 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
That is a very confusing message WICB is sending
The only reason they are "making nice" with the rest of players is SA
Star
Nov 16, 2014, 3:56:20 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
What a load of garbage.
Steeeuuppssssssssssss
jacksprat
Nov 16, 2014, 3:56:28 AM
In reply to Admin
Tony Becca, I love you, but it's time to put away the pen and go into retirement. It's just time.
Actually, Becca has been officially retired from the Gleaner for about a decade now!
It has been obvious for some time now that he has lost a step!
DIEHARD
Nov 16, 2014, 3:56:48 AM
Emir
Nov 16, 2014, 3:58:48 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
If anyone had any doubt about Becca's mindset- a "colonial and massa mentality" this article should completely erase it.
Notice how he totally absolved the WICB and WIPA leadership of any wrongdoing. Its why old fragile men like Becca has no credibility except for garbage dumb like the Gleaner.
It is because of people like Becca's the vast underclass in Jamaica are where they are today
jacksprat
Nov 16, 2014, 4:01:46 AM
In reply to Emir
Be careful, lest you be accused by some of the apologists for this backward attitude, of "having an Afro and still wearing a dashiki" for having the temerity to express an opinion rather than what they would approve.
Its why old fragile men like Becca has no credibility except for garbage dumb like the Gleaner.
Despite my differences with the Gleaner, it is hardly a 'garbage dump' like you term it. It is still one of the most prestigious and respected papers in the Western Hemisphere-not just in the Caribbean
JahJah
Nov 16, 2014, 4:21:54 AM
In reply to jacksprat
Despite my difference with the Gleaner it is hardly a 'garbage dump' like you term it. It is still one of the most prestigious and respected papers in the Western Hemisphere-not just in the Caribbean
You beat me to it. Emir is an ass.
Emir
Nov 16, 2014, 4:23:55 AM
In reply to jacksprat
It has credibility among Western Neo Cons- whose philosophy you should know about.
jacksprat
Nov 16, 2014, 4:25:45 AM
In reply to Emir
It has credibility among Western Neo Cons- whose philosophy you should know about.
Is this going to be the level of your discourse?
It hardly warrants a serious response.
BYE!
Admin
Nov 16, 2014, 4:37:18 AM
In reply to jacksprat
I mean real retirement. Take care of the grandkids, read some good books, whatever. Someone needs to physically take the pen/keyboard away.
_r
jacksprat
Nov 16, 2014, 4:39:30 AM
Emir
Nov 16, 2014, 4:56:49 AM
In reply to jacksprat
You are naive to think the Gleaner has self worth as a medium of change and progress in Jamaica. There is absolutely nothing that outfit can point to that has helped Jamaica progress as a country and its people.
Becca is just one example of what the Gleaner stands for and has aggressively promoted over the years.
When was the last time you examined the composition of the paper's management team over the years. Do that before condemning me.
black
Nov 16, 2014, 4:59:02 AM
In reply to jacksprat
Will the Hindu PM's of Trinidad and BG lobby the Hindu Nationalist gang in New Delhi to exert pressure in the BCCI to save WI?
I believe this is going to happen for numerous reasons including New Delhi's quest to be seen globally as a super power with global influence and the governments of struggling Trinidad and BG and the various covert Hindu Nationalist groups in these two countries in order to gain credibility among their country men.
Memba this from Emir?
Emir
Nov 16, 2014, 5:18:21 AM
In reply to black
Thank you blacks, just as I stated, it has proven to be correct- see St Vincent PM recommendation- it is happening already
black
Nov 16, 2014, 5:24:47 AM
rhatid
Nov 16, 2014, 8:28:36 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
This WICB is a wimp board. I hope these minimal-talent, bird-brained, prideless dummies go to South Africa and end up doing even worse than they did in India. And I hope the BCCI squeeze every red cent out of this spineless, stupid board called the WICB. By selecting all these mal-contents to go to South Africa, this WICB shows a total disregard and downright contempt toward the BCCI and the Indian people. And BCCI should let them pay dearly.
No ease up BCCI!
BatQuake
Nov 16, 2014, 9:27:04 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Wonderful article. Now that's what I'm talking about.
I don't expect the delusional, the delirious and the Axis of Untruth on this MB to like these type of articles though.
don1
Nov 16, 2014, 9:48:14 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
A lot of fans agree with Becca.
djdrastic
Nov 16, 2014, 9:49:26 AM
In reply to BatQuake
delusional, the delirious and the Axis of Untruth
But that's you.
That sums you up perfectly in a nutshell.
BatQuake
Nov 16, 2014, 10:09:38 AM
In reply to djdrastic
See why you are a delusional bloke.
....(sigh).......smh...........
bobby
Nov 16, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
In reply to don1
What fans? West Indies cricket still have fans? What it has is a whole set of old men, most of whom who live outside of the Caribbean,and who clutch to memories of the old days.
Cricket fans? Get a count of how many of them are watching the games in Guyana, Jamaica and Trinidad.
notout0
Nov 16, 2014, 10:53:10 AM
In reply to bobby
Most of us agree WCIB is a weak structure, could this be why they retained Ramdin as Captain after he piss and shit on dem. Who turns up for meeting one hour late in t-slip and short slippers to meet dem Board?
notout0
Nov 16, 2014, 11:03:13 AM
In reply to rhatid
What de fak are you on about - Are you sober?
XDFIX
Nov 16, 2014, 12:55:54 PM
In reply to jacksprat
How can you read the article and not come away with this:
The West Indies Board is obviously weak to allow Ramdin and friends to go to South Africa, and with all that has happened in West Indies cricket in recent years, and with all that is happening now,
the board must go,
in the best interest of West Indies cricket, and it must go quickly, or share the fate of Humpty Dumpty.
tc1
Nov 16, 2014, 1:11:38 PM
In reply to notout0
I think many of you do not know how organization behave, I bet you Ramdin will be can next series.
There's a 75 % chance that Jamaican Dave and Dumbo will be stilli in charge next year.
Ewart
Nov 16, 2014, 3:47:19 PM
In reply to XDFIX
Or this:
The West Indies Board has blundered once again, as it has on so many, many occasions; or maybe it is its general weakness that has come to the fore, once again; or it is its basic incompetence which has been evident for sometime now.
Had the board been firm but fair in the past, many times in the past, maybe the catastrophe of India would never have happened...
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Hendra
Nov 16, 2014, 4:25:26 PM
[b]In reply to notout0[/b
An article that reflects the feelings of the average Caribbean person to this shocking decision by the Board. At the very least, Ramdin should have been bypassed as capt.
As a result of this move, I have made the decision and will be building coalition on it, not to view,support or follow WI in any match captained by Ramdin, Bravo or Sammy nor attend any such matches until further notice.
If a few thousand of us do likewise and hurt the Board where it matters, they will have no option but to either shape up or ship out!!
Emir
Nov 16, 2014, 5:59:56 PM
In reply to Hendra
It makes no difference if you go to the stadium- there were 99 people when NZ last visit, so if you were one of those then it will have 98.
You wont be miss at all and moreover if you want to stop following WI cricket go right ahead, I will suggest you adopt Zimbabwe.
rhatid
Nov 16, 2014, 6:08:43 PM
In reply to notout0
Make your point!
Wally-1
Nov 17, 2014, 5:16:42 AM
In reply to Admin
Someone needs to physically take the pen/keyboard away.
i disagree strongly, tony is a great cricket historian and he should be confined to that.
POINT
Nov 17, 2014, 5:34:37 AM
Look , as I have stated in this Forum some days ago , Becca et al in their rush to judgements failed to understand that there is a little thing called DUE PROCESS .
EVERYONE in Democratically run Countries are entitled to have DUE PROCESS . Failure to exercise this little thing called DUE PROCESS , can bring about BIG LAWSUITS .
Now since it is Public knowledge that those
in the governance of Cricket in the Region are bankrupt in every respect , it means that despite Becca's
idiotic comment , those in the governance of Cricket in the Region must tread very carefully .
Wally-1
Nov 17, 2014, 5:40:06 AM
In reply to POINT
Look , as I have stated in this Forum some days ago , Becca et al in their rush to judgements failed to understand that there is a little thing called DUE PROCESS .
did the players recognize that?
imusic
Nov 17, 2014, 6:11:52 AM
Let a promoter promote any reggae artist anywhere in the world and significantly cut their pay before they perform and see if any of them same artists go ahead with the show and say they will negotiate payment terms after nah.
A setta fcukries people chattin...especially Jamaicans.
jacksprat
Nov 17, 2014, 6:20:13 AM
In reply to imusic
Your brush is pretty broad, isn't it?
But why am I not surprised!!!
Blackbird
Nov 17, 2014, 7:01:53 AM
In reply to jacksprat
..so much has passed him while he was asleep...
Who is Tony Becca?
Is he the prime minister of Barbados.
jacksprat
Nov 17, 2014, 7:30:51 AM
In reply to Blackbird
He is the former Sports Editor of the Jamaica Gleaner and the Jamaica Daily News and a noted cricket writer.
Cleg
Nov 17, 2014, 8:26:32 AM
In reply to jacksprat
In reply to imusic
Your brush is pretty broad, isn't it?
Especially when it comes to Jamaicans!
notout0
Nov 17, 2014, 2:47:11 PM
In reply to imusic
I try to get the facts as correctly as I can before blothing, no one got they pay cut whilst on tour, than was done before they went on tour. However, the revised package of increase match fees and performance pay was rejected by Bravo who misled the stupid boys (yes skip, whatever) and the rest is history. So what now - same contract for SA tour - Whose going???
notout0
Nov 17, 2014, 2:53:49 PM
In reply to Hendra
As a WI supporter I wud find it difficult to boycott them, but lost all respect for Bravo, Sammy and Ramdin. What is surprising is bare face Ramdin has no shame, for now he is getting away with murder fighting for TT Captaincy and disrepecting the board with short pants, t-shirt and slipper for the meeting and over 1 hour late.
notout0
Nov 18, 2014, 12:11:58 PM
In reply to rhatid
Banas, you are not saying anything relevant to the point. Not because the Board is crap the players should shit on it! Are you showing any respect to dem players (bunch of faggots) who quit the tour?
DAVE400
Nov 18, 2014, 12:21:12 PM
The gleaner is a joke... Anybody say otherwise is an ass, a yardie or both or one and the same...
rhatid
Nov 18, 2014, 7:05:44 PM
In reply to notout0
By inviting these dumb-ass players to tour South Africa, the board is putting themselves in a position to be shit on by these bunch of faggots. I was hoping that they (the board) would show some spine and leave these ass holes to wallow in their stupidity. The board has shown that they can't do without these dummies and therefore invite the shit on. I say again the board is a spineless bunch of wimps! And they look dumber than the players!