BRIDGETOWN, Barbados (CMC) – West Indies head coach Phil Simmons yesterday courted controversy when he slammed “interference from outside” as the reason for the omission of Dwayne Bravo and Kieron Pollard from the one-day squad, for the upcoming tour of Sri Lanka.The 52-year-old Simmons, who took charge of the squad back in March following the ICC Cricket World Cup, said he, chairman of selectors Clive Lloyd and captain Jason Holder were all in favour of the Trinidadian duo’s re-inclusion but “people” had used their “influence” to keep them out of the squad.
In a candid interview with reporters on the final day of the West Indies camp at the 3Ws Oval, Simmons castigated such interference as “wrong” and said it had robbed the region of its best ODI squad.
However, he did not say who the interference was coming from.
“I think it’s disappointing from the fact that I haven’t got the best 50-over ODI squad that we can select in the Caribbean,” an irate Simmons said.
“The chairman, Mr Lloyd, he came and he gave an exceptional speech saying that he thinks it is time they are back in the squad and he gave exceptional reasons for them being back in the squad.
“Unfortunately, when we went into the selection (meeting) we lost it 3-2. Him and myself – the captain doesn’t have a vote in this – but the captain also gave his views as why they need to be back.”

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In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Smh. Our cricket has too much melee

Strong words Phil!

Kudos to you.

I wonder if the Cabal-which is so averse to independent opinions-will now demand that you apologise for speaking the truth; or IF you will be sidelined until you do so.

It refreshing to know that there are other people with backbones around West Indies cricket.

TAKE A BOW CHRISTOPHER HENRY GAYLE!!!

Holder siding with the bad people after they appointed him captain only because they saw him as the best dog to play fetch with!

So, we persist with the nonsense that the captain doesn't have a say in selection matters....

Simmons and Lloyd voted in favour of Bravo and Pollard. Who are the three members of the selection panel who voted against them?

will Simmo be disciplined for airing confidential matters?

everything for WICB is confidential, even the time of day.

Simmons might not be the head coach for this team for a reasonable time, he just offended and outed the higher-ups for being vindictive and vengeful.

Clive Lloyd was one of my heroes as a proud Guyanese and West Indian. I have lost total respect for him with all this nonsense. Both him and Simmons should be be fired immediately!!!

In reply to FAI

Spot on. The request from simmo is the biggest fault in WI cricket

In reply to FAI
Why should Lloyd be fired, Simmonds just said, that Lloyd and himself were in favor of having the players return, but it was blocked by others, the problem seems to be higher-up.

In reply to FAI

[b]“The chairman, Mr Lloyd, he came and he gave an exceptional speech saying that he thinks it is time they are back in the squad and he gave exceptional reasons for them being back in the squad.
“Unfortunately, when we went into the selection (meeting) we lost it 3-2. Him and myself – the captain doesn’t have a vote in this – but the captain also gave his views as why they need to be back.”[/b]

Am I reading a different article or the same???

Well said Simmo.

The goons want control not good cricket

In reply to Chrissy

It would have been interesting if Simmons, and not the shameless yes-man Gibson, were the coach when they tried to foist the useless puppet Sammy-"the new Frank Worrell"-on the West Indies team for 3-4 years without having to actually perform to keep his place.

In reply to mikesiva

Maybe Cameron has a vote. That would be utterly disgraceful so I hope that's not the case.

There are 4 selectors + the coach. COurtney Browne, Eldine Baptiste, Coutney Walsh and Clive Lloyd are the selectors for those who don't know.

In reply to jacksprat

TAKE OFF THE BLINDERS

You are blaming the wrong administration for the mess that is now. Stop trying to deflect.

You walk into a situation where you know the rules. You sign a contract, you use the same system to pick multiple teams for multiple series and now when supposedly a couple of your countrymen get sidelined by the same system you crying.

Fuckries.

In reply to ProWI

"Wrong administration"? What is that?

Unlike you, I am not blinkered by the flag!

This is the same WICB-as it has always been-with the same faces in different places.

It is the same Clueless Cabal!

Nothing has Changed!!!!

In reply to jacksprat

What about the rotten head?

In reply to Commie

He is trying to change the system from inside like you always want. Only yes men are needed in WI. Who's simmo seems to not agree with.

I love that "countrymen" statement to make things more spicy

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Mr Simmonds, welcome to the WICB where winning cricket games means nothing but being in control means everything.

In reply to Commie

YOU are responsible for the 8th with that philosophy

In reply to Halliwell

Its a puerile stance.

Neither Bravo (who has a decent bowling record vs them) or Pollard have a great record vs SL and Bravo is past his playing prime. Pollard averages TWO vs them with the bat. TWO !

You want to destabilise the other players in the team for a couple never beens?

Fuckries.

In reply to FAI

correct. Big PUC back Cameron and drop dem fe the WC now him want fe change course. U cyaant haff it both ways

In reply to Commie

Don't try that
Rank the players' stats without isolating bravo and pollard
And I will revisit the thread after the tour

In reply to Halliwell

Drapsey said it best.

Simmons is a big man and knew what he was getting into.

He himself voted against Chandy continuing for one last series when the Board wanted Chandy to play. The voting process was the same.

Whats the saying ...same knife stick sheep stick goat.

In reply to Commie

Bravo past his playing prime at 31 but is at top of his T20 game both with the bat and ball based on what? Because Commie says so.



None of the current players are establised as individuals or team. What is going to be destabilised?

IMO Mr Simmons has impuned the integrity of three members of the committee. Will he be made to put up or pay up?

In reply to ducks

Can you imagine if Gibson had inferred such of Walsh for example.

War

I will insist that when you hold
the upper hand in any negotiations ,
the onus is on YOU to get most of what you want .

If that aint possible , the best course of action is to walk away . My perspective is that prior to getting into the Den of Iniquity , Simmons , had enough clout & time to tell the people in Ireland that he was only
exploring the possibility of being
the Coach of the West Indies Team .
It was Simmons responsibility , to get a NO INTERFERENCE CLAUSE in his Contract . Evidently he failed to do that .

Perhaps he may have burnt his Ireland Bridge too quickly . This is merely speculation on my part , but the fact that the Supreme Emperor in the WICB
has the power to overrule Both Simmons & Lloyd , informs me that not only is Simmons a bad Negotiator , it is also dangerous to Cricket in the Region , that even Lloyd's recommendation was ignored .

Folks , WE are running faster that Usain Bolt , but WE are still at the freaking Starting Line . Lord Help Us .But then Cameron is not only the President of the WICB ; he is also the Co President of the Jamaica Cricket Board .

In reply to ducks


what if he has facts to support his assertion?

probably should demand details before saying anything.

In reply to POINT

Cameron is not on the JCA,he is an independent on the WICB for a number of years.

In reply to POINT

Your ignorance about West Indies cricket is astounding!

If you are going to pride yourself on being such a relentless critic of the WICB, it would be wise to at least first educate yourself about its makeup and operation.

In reply to camos

?
That is 'put up'

"However, Simmons and Lloyd were outvoted 3-2 in the selection meeting. Besides Lloyd, the other selectors on the panel are: Courtney Walsh, Courtney Browne and Eldine Baptiste."

In reply to camos

My belief is that he is , because he now has much more Power than other Presidents of the WICB . Perhaps that may be because He & Hinds engineered the Coup that made WIPA currently , a
branch of the WICB .

The gist of what I am stating is that
engineering that Coup , has made Cameron in essence the First among Equals .

In reply to jacksprat

Dummy , the make up etc is only pon paper , in reality , tings na run so .
This is precisely why I am advocating that there must be a complete Restructuring of Cricket in the Region .

I am in favour of ONE ENTITY , with
TWO DEPARTMENTS.A CRICKET DEPARTMENT
run & Staffed by former great West Indies Players . they will be empowered to be in the governance of ALL MATTERS pertaining to Cricket ;
with absolutely NO INTERFERENCE , from the other Department that is the
ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENT .

The Administrative Department will have the usual compliment of Officers , President ; VP ; Treasurer etc .
a Legal Advisor ; PRO Team ; etc .

DOES ANYONE HERE BELIEVE THAT THE

COUP THAT CAMERON & HINDS ENGINEERED

TO MAKE WIPA A BRANCH OF THE WICB WAS

DONE OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR

HEARTS ??

ME NA TINK SO

My take is that it has made Cameron the Supreme Emperor in the WICB , so as I stated , what dey pon paper aint necessarily what is reality .

This is precisely why I will continuously state that Cricket in the Region needs to undergo Serious Structural Changes . Never mind that those in the WICB will resist doing that with every fiber in their bodies .
In my opinion the reason why they will forever strenuously resist any changes , is that they are deathly afraid of their power being Cut .

As usual , they are more interested in their Perks & Power than doing things to raise the standard of Cricket in the Region and ensuring that Our Players & Team are fully competitive in the International Cricket Arena .

In reply to POINT

What idiocy!

Cameron is not part of hierarchy of the JCA (there is no such entity called the "Jamaica Cricket Board"!!

Mr. Semi-Literate, at least learn the basic rules of punctuation before you try to call anyone a 'dummy". With your repetitive, wordy and boring self, you seem to just stringing the same tired words together without having a clue about what you are talking.

You really come across as an ignoramus pontificating about things of which you are totally ignorant. Hopefully by now you would have educated yourself about the real meaning of "[La] Turret Syndrome" that you used to accuse anyone who pointed out your idiocy!

It is clear that the outside interference into the selection process is coming from the following buggers "
COMMIE
HALLIWELL
BABYLON
FIVESTAR
PACT
PROWI
JACKSPRAT
JEN
JBALLER
SAN COUCHIE
JOE GRINDS
YAMMY
DOTTIE

In reply to jacksprat

It gives me great pleasure to return the sentiments you have expressed back to you . In this Forum ; I know how to deal with Troglodytes like You .

In reply to Commie

The last time a check C'Paul Guyanese. Simmons and men of his ilk not fooling anybody!

In reply to casiba

In reply to casiba

Courtney Walsh

Courtney Browne

Eldine Baptiste

Clive Lloyd.

2 to 2

Who had the deciding vote? Was it Lemonade Dave or Pybus?

Obviously, it was Richard Pybus. This outside force had to be Pybus because he is the director of cricket and what he says goes.

Pybus is one smart cookie. He made sure to stay behind the scene and wheel that whip as a

director of cricket operations. And wheel it he did. Welcome aboard Simmons…Pybus will eff

you up like how he effed up Otis.

In reply to TheTrail

Simmons is part of the selection panel, Pybus and Cameron lead the selection panel.

In reply to openning

No, he is not. He presents the 15-man squad to the selectors and they pick the squad.

Isn't it Lloyd who is the chair of the selection panel?

In reply to TheTrail

how many are being selected from that 15?

In reply to camos

Correction: 20 players

Simmo have questions to answer. I personally need to know which of these three (Walsh,Browne or Baptist)was influenced by outside source. Our great ambassador reputation is at stake. Right now Simmo utterances left a bitter taste in the mouth.

In reply to TheTrail

How come Simmons say it was three to two, with he and Lloyd in-favour of Bravo and Pollard?

In reply to TheTrail

You sure? what about the cappo?

In reply to openning

I heard that the coach don't have a vote. Not sure though