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Archer -the reason why

 
sudden 2018-01-31 08:44:17 

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tc1 2018-01-31 09:06:52 

In reply to sudden

good read

 
Larr Pullo 2018-01-31 10:21:48 

So if his father is a British citizen, why does he have to wait 5 years to qualify? Doesn't he gain citizenship by lineage?

 
doublecentury 2018-01-31 11:25:40 

He is a British citizen and has always been.

To play for England you must be a citizen and resident . If you become resident under 18 you need to be resident three years...if you become resident as an adult the period is SEVEN years

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/42887129

Sussex all-rounder Jofra Archer says he is "doing the maths" to ensure he qualifies for his "dream" of playing Test cricket for England.

Barbados-born Archer, 22, is not eligible for England until the winter of 2022, when he will have completed the seven-year residency period.

He needs to spend 210 days a year in England to complete his residency.

"I think I have a longer career in England than I would have in Barbados," he told Stumped on BBC World Service.

Archer, who was sold in this month's IPL auction for £800,000, impressed in Australia's Big Bash League with his pace and athleticism in the field.

He says he is able to manage the tournaments he plays in to ensure he meets the qualification criteria.

Jofra Archer - the little-known cricketer now worth a million dollars
'Not playing Test cricket too young is a blessing'

Archer, who grew up in Barbados, played three times for West Indies under-19s but was left out for the World Cup in 2014.

His Sussex team-mate Chris Jordan, who was also born in Barbados, has gone on to represent England in Test and limited-overs cricket.

"It was really upsetting and I think I took it too seriously. That summer was the first summer I went to England," said Archer.

"After playing with Sussex, I really think the conditions in England suit me. I saw that it's possible to play for England."

Archer, who will be 27 by the time he qualifies to represent England, said the experience he will gain over the next five years would help him be more confident in his game.

"I'm still young now so I think it's a blessing really, not to play so young. Who knows - I could have a bad game or a bad series, and that could be me," he added.

 
camos 2018-01-31 11:42:03 

In reply to doublecentury

he is actually in a sweet spot, he can make a lot of T20 before he plays international cricket.The interesting question now is who gives the NOC England or WI?

 
Walco 2018-01-31 11:58:34 

In reply to camos

If he’s not eligible to play for England, my guess is that Cricket West Indies has to give the NOC.

 
doosra 2018-01-31 11:58:49 

In reply to camos

wi could make money offa his ipl

they'd be dying to issue noc big grin

 
doublecentury 2018-01-31 13:01:26 

In reply to Walco

"FICA stands for fundamental rights of players to freedom of movement and for players to play where they are valued. Because of the way the game is structured, there is more than one market open to players. It would be patently unfair not to allow a player to compete in one market, when he or she is not employed in the other. FICA will support appropriate player challenges to country Boards that attempt to prevent players from earning a living in markets where they are valued."

The case of West Indies allrounder Kieron Pollard is one prominent example of a board imposing restraint of trade on a non-contracted player. In November 2016 the WICB barred Pollard from playing for Cape Cobras in the domestic T20 league in South Africa. The WICB said any player from the Caribbean wishing to participate in an overseas T20 league would have a charge of 20% levied on his contract fee. The WICB called it a "policy" decision and said it was just claiming that money because it had invested in the growth and development of the player. The WICB eventually gave the NOC to Pollard, though, after Cricket South Africa and Cricket Australia were among the many voices that publicly objected to such

 
Walco 2018-01-31 13:24:50 

In reply to doublecentury

Your posts suggests that not all territories receive or demand 20% of the players’ T20 earnings. Is there concensus among ICC members on payment of a lower percentage of player T20 salaries? I ask this because it appears that Cricket South Africa objected to the Cricket West Indies 20% demand.

As I have stated previously, Cricket West Indies is engaged in an unlawful scheme with other ICC members that restrains trade. And CWI is taking this repayment for investment argument too far in terms of percentage of salary demanded and the position that it is entitled to a percentage for the players’ entire careers. Cricket West Indies has already extracted well over US$1 million from Pollard’s T20 earnings over the years. In my view, this is an unconscionable amount. I am not a fan of Kieron Pollard anymore because of his boorish behavior is the last CPL. But fair is fair man!!

 
che 2018-01-31 13:38:09 

In reply to Walco

Cricket West Indies has already extracted well over US$1 million from Pollard’s T20 earnings over the years.

shock
Whe de proof??

ECB pull how much from Kevin Peteirson??

CA snatch how much from Shane Watson??

 
Maispwi 2018-01-31 21:18:41 

In reply to doublecentury

CWI had to backtrack from the 20% cause de other countries did not agree plus de CPL franchise owners were not to happy

 
Walco 2018-01-31 21:40:14 

In reply to che

The fact that other cricket boards extract extortion payments from their cricketers does not make what Cricket West Indies is doing legal. They all are part of the illegal scheme. In fact, the scheme only works if all cricket boards agree to require no objection certificates before allowing foreign players into their leagues.

As for your request for proof regarding the amount of money out of Pollard’s contracts that has been paid to Cricket West Indies, it’s not difficult to figure out. His IPL contracts alone over the last eight years have averaged at least $1 Million per year. Add to that the Big Bash and T20 leagues in other countries and calculate 10% of that amount. My estimate of $1 million paid to Cricket West Indies is probably conservative. The same would be true for Gayle, Bravo and possibly Russell.

 
goofballs 2018-01-31 21:59:11 

He needs to spend 210 days a year in England to complete his residency.

He better watch out. If he plays in all the PLs like IPL, PCL, Bangla, Carib, Big Bash, Afghan league, etc. plus vacations abroad, 155 days will quickly pass without him realizing it.
He better get a good personal manager/advisor as well as accountant and lawyer. Watch how quick the money gone to all those "professional."
If all of them took 20% he will be bankrupt. wink

 
Pacy 2018-01-31 23:48:14 

In reply to doublecentury

"I think I have a longer career in England than I would have in Barbados," he told Stumped on BBC World Service.


A smart man. Even though he has to wait for 7 years and start his career around 26-27 he believes he would have a longer career in England...

That just highlights the crux...

 
che 2018-02-02 07:53:57 

In reply to Walco

How much CWI invest in Cornwall lite umm ahh Pollard??? lol

Wha ROI he bring CWI??

Repeat and ansa pon Russell, Bravo et al...

lol

 
Walco 2018-02-02 08:29:52 

In reply to che

That’s an easy one — 2 T20 World Cups.

But I’m sure you are aware that more often than not teams invest in prospects that turn out to be busts. When these same teams discover useful players or “stars” they sign them to long-term contracts. In a post-slavery world, you cannot force someone to work for you against his will in the absence of a binding contractual arrangement. Extracting a 10% or 20% ransom from noncontracted players is both illegal and immoral.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2018-02-02 09:02:38 

In reply to Walco

Name de 2 t20 wc that Polly won nuh wink

 
Walco 2018-02-02 23:46:25 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

So it’s not a team sport anymore? big grin