In a prediction lacking final say in who runs where and last minute injury information, CHS retains their title. KC and JC are putting things in place for a massive 2019 challenge.
Notes:
OVERALL
This is just my opinion and subject to your expert critiques
CLASS 1
a) I have CHS winning all but two track events and they could easily win those as well.
b) KC cannot wait for Taylor, Wilson, Stephens, Russell and Carpenter to leave school. These five have been a thorn in KC flesh since their Class 4 days and KC has fallen and yielded to them for six years.
CLASS 2
a) Where did this KC sprint team disappear to? As Class 4 and then Class 3 boys they dominated CHS now the tables have turned.
b) Minus Stennett, this Class 2 batch dispatched all comers in Class 3 now StETHS and St. Jago rules the roost with CHS closing the gap on their purple nemesis.
CLASS 3
a) Nkumrie would be a strong gold medal favorite in the LJ but the 3 event rules checks that.
b) If Williams (400m), Richards (8/15), Rankine (100mH), Dewar (800) can somehow perform above expectations then Champs becomes a nailbiter.
c) This is the Class that can turn Champs in a North Street direction. Unfortunately, depending on fourteen (and 13) year olds to win Champs is a dicey proposition.
OPEN
a) How the leading teams deploy Betton (CHS) and Thames (KC) will be worth watching. In the past, CHS has shown better judgement in how they allocate their athletes.
b) Rogers and Beadle must score heavily for KC here.
c) Venson stays in Class 2 where he can take the distance double, Taylor permitting in the 800m
d) Rowe must anchor the KC medley as that is their best bet at a top 3 finish in a race that you may have to run under 3:31 to score points.
2018 CHAMPS PREVIEW
CLASS 1
100m - Stephens (CHS); Matherson (KC); Russell (CHS); Everette (JC); Gardner (XLCR); Robertson (JC); McPherson (GP); Rowe(KC)
200m - Taylor (CHS); Carpenter (CHS); Stone (PHS); Jennings (JC); Bryan (KC); Mahutiere (CPN); McPherson (GP); Grant (BP)
400m - Taylor (CHS); Morris (KC); Farr (WOL); Carpenter (CHS); Smith (BP); Hanson (EDA); Cox (JAGO); Lindo (VTHS)
800m - Rhoden (KC); Farquhason (CHS); Clarke (JAGO); Reid (SV); James (STE); Fullerton (MUN); Reyes (JC); Blackmon (JC)
1500m - Williams (CHS); Lawrence (JAGO); Campbell (JC); Farquhason (CHS); Salmon (STE); Rhoden (KC); Fullerton (MUN); Harding (RH);
110mH - Russell (CHS); Bennett (CHS); Pinnock (KC); Senior (RUS); Broadbell (JAGO); Lemonious (JC); Miller (JC); Bembridge (XLCR)
400mH - Williams (RH); James-King (CHS); Farr (WOL); James (STE); Lemonious (JC); Kalawan (EDA); Henry (CHS); Senior (RUS)
HJ - Wilson (JAGO); Davis (KC); Clarke (CHS); Bailey (KC); Betton (CHS); Rooper (BUF); Marshall (JAGO); Cunningham (JC)
LJ - Pinnock (KC); Lowe (KC); Bogle (WOL); Thompson (CHS); Owens (CORN); Willis (JC); Dudley (JC); Beckford (GLEN);
TJ - Willis (JC); Cunningham (JC); Owens (CORN); Wilson (KC); Wilson (JAGO); Jackson (JAGO); Bancroft (KC); Campbell (CHS)
SP - Campbell (KC); Leith (CHS); Lawrence (PHS); Graham (CHS); Stona (JAGO); Cope (PHS); Delancey (MUN); Downer (KC);
DIS - Stona (JAGO); Chang (CHS); Cope (PHS); Cyrus (JC); Campbell (KC); Douglas (JC); Barnett (XLCR); Leith (CHS)
4x100 - CHS; KC; JC; PHS, WOL, XLCR, RUS, JAGO, VERE
CHS = 129
JC = 65
KC = 89
CLASS 2
100m - Dennis (STE); Stennett (KC); Bent (WKM); Jones (STE); Thomas (JAGO); Emmanuel (PAP); Morris (CLAR); Vascianna (JAGO);
200m - Watson (PHS); Dennis (STE); Morris (CLAR); Bent (WKM); Thomas (JAGO); Jones (STE); Carr (JAGO); Watson (YC)
400m - Watson (PHS); Whitehorn (CHS); Johnson (XLCR); Scott (RUS); Brown (GLEN); Whyte (RH); Brown (KC); Williams (WOL)
800m - Venson (CHS); Taylor (BW); Brown (JC); Blake (JC); Cooper (STM); Cunningham (CHS); Hall (EDA); Hutchinson (CLAR)
1500m - Venson (CHS); Blake (JC); Henry (KC); Dias (JC); Grant (BEL); Dawkins (ASC); Martin (CHS); Wilson (FERN)
110mH - Vasciana (JAGO); Granville (JAGO); Williams (KC); Campbell (CHS); Carr (CHS); Stern (JC); Woodley (RUS); Henlon (STE)
400mH - Brown (KC); Archer (XLCR); Leslie (CHS); Spencer (WOL); Clarke (CHS); Forrest (KC); Whyte (RH); Woodley (RUS)
HJ - Beckford (BUF); Hanson (HM); McKenzie (CORN); Ottey (CORN); Thomas (JAGO); Walters (STA); Charles (CPN); York (JAGO)
LJ - Carr (JAGO); Brown (CHS); Smith (JAGO); Turner (CHS); Beadle (KC); Russell (DQ); Cox (KC); Brooks (JC)
TJ - Edwards (JC); Brown (CHS); Campbell (CHS); McKenzie (CORN); Hibbert (TICH); Lewin (JC); Cox (KC); Brown (JAGO);
SP - Edwards (JC): Mullings (KC); Dillon (CHS); Johnson (PHS); Beckford (MANG); Fletcher (KC); Elliott (MUN); Brooks (MD)
DIS - Mullings (KC); Dillon (CHS); Jackson (JAGO); Cockett (KC); Atkinson (CHS); Beckford (BUF); Campbell (BP); Edwards (JC);
4X100 - JAGO, STE, KC, CHS, JC, WOL, PHS, RH
CHS = 93
JC = 53
KC = 71
CLASS 3
100m - Kerr (KC); Nkumrie (KC); McLeod (STE); Lynch (CHS); Scott (JC); Coltas (CHS); Bennett (CAMP); Sutherland (JC)
200m - Nkumrie (KC); McLeod (STE); Kerr (KC); Lynch (CHS); Bennett (CAMP); Douglas (CHS); Dacers (JC); Shaw (CAMP)
400m - Douglas (CHS); Linton (JC); Nethersole (STE); Williams (KC); Hamm (HOLM); Henry (CHS); Gordon (WOL); Campbell (CORN)
800m - Nethersole (STE); Chambers (JAGO); Reid (JC); Davis (JC); Hinds (JAGO); Gardner (MANC); Fletcher (CHS); Richards (KC)
1500m - Chambers (JAGO); Hinds (JAGO); Davis (JC); Bacchus (PA); Fletcher (CHS); Power (CHS), Richards (KC); Salmon (KC)
100mH - Sutherland (JC); Williams (CHS); Thomas (CHS); Rankine (KC); Lynch (WOL); Cranston (STE); Lindo (KC); Bucknor (JAGO)
HJ - Byam (KC); Seaton (KC); Dillon (WOL); Codling (CHS); Rumble (JC); Curriah (JC); Williams (STM); Edwards (ARD)
LJ - Locke (FRO); Seaton (KC); Willis (KC); Thomas (CHS); Lawrence (CHS); Meggs (WOL); Simpson (CORN); Campbell (LAC)
4x100 - KC; CHS; JC; STE; CAMP; CORN; WOL, PHS
CHS = 74
JC = 60
KC = 86
OPEN
DEC - KC; JC; CHS; XLCR; WOL; RUS; BUF, MUN
JAV - Brown (KC); Anglin (PHS); Thames (KC); Gordon (PHS); Spencer (STE); Henry (CHS); Jones (PAP); Carby (MUN)
PV - Smith (JC); Thames (KC); Betton (CHS); Fenelon (JC); Shurland (KC); Smith (CHS); Davis (WOL); Morrison (XLCR)
5000 - Rogers (KC); Marshall (CHS); Lawrence (JAGO); Campbell (JC); Smith (WOL); McDonald (CHS); Elliott (KC); Anderson (JAGO)
2000SC - Rogers (KC); Harding (RH); Marshall (CHS); Smith (JC); Beadle (KC); Smith (WOL); Tomlin (BEL); Sweeny (EDA)
MED - KC; CHS; SPA; JC; HOLM; WOL; STE; JAGO
4x400 - CHS, KC; PHS, RH, EDA, JAGO; JC, STE
CHS = 51
JC = 40
KC = 87
CHS = 347
KC = 333
JC = 218
Message Board Archives
"CHAMPS" 2018 Prediction (Boys)
In reply to JoeGrine
Joe
Based off of your opening statement about not knowing who where and when will compete and also injury status, I wont offer a comprehensive rebuttal but to just offer a token response.
You have CBar winning by 14 pts and that's a close call. So if we go by that point spread, if Stennett( where do you have him running elsewhere) were to run the 200 he would finish at least 4th or 5th giving KC 4 pts. The margin is now 10.
Likewise, not knowing the status of Matherson,and say he runs the 200,he finishes no worse than 2nd. That's 8 pts. Margin now 2 pts. I am basing this not knowing status or injury report just like you opened with. Where does KC find 3 pts to win??
As for KC cannot wait for this quartet to leave, I humbly have to echo your sentiment.
The week has finally arrived and we will now see whose high is not high enough and who yields after they fall.
Thanks for the report .
In reply to JoeGrine
A full and comprehensive report/prediction. Thank you sir. Let the games begin!
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In reply to JoeGrine
Big big effort. Thanks. No major disagreement.
Class 1 800m.
James, Farq and Rhoden top three. Clarke and Reid do not handle the fast rounds well. The semis could be faster than the finals.
Class 2 LJ
No Lamar Reid in the Class 2 long jump? Turner or Reid will win.
Class 1 100m
No Scott at KC in 100m. Maybe Rowe
In reply to Headley
Thanks I meant Rowe but Scott got in there somehow. I made the change.
Don't sell Carr (Jago) short he is a major talent LJ plus sprints.
Class 1 (800m) Clarke can actually win the whole thing off a fast pace, he just have to pace himself properly. I see him and Rhoden as having the most "next level" talent in that race.
In reply to RoyalDad
If Scott (RUS) runs here just like in Class 3 , Stennett wont beat him.
I was wondering why this was so close and then I saw it.
In reply to Jamstar
Remember its not gospel
In reply to JoeGrine
Two years ago I thought he was the next Rudisha. What I have seen in the past 2 years is that when the first lap pace is very hot he lags behind the top 3 or 4. The problem is he does not have the confidence (stamina?) to make his move on the back straight. By the time he makes his move with 150m to go the faster (or fittest men on that day) cannot be caught.
He will need to change his strategy (in the future, cannot see it happening in time for Champs) to make the last 300m brutal, in order to sap the fast men. Watch Jones from Barbados at CARIFTA and you will see how Clarke should do it. I am sure you will communicate.
Reid, Turner and Kerr (not Carr) 7.33, 7.32 and 7.19 at Digicel/GC Foster
Turner and Kerr 7.23 and 6.90 at U17 CARIFTA Trials
Kerr is good but I can't see him getting in front of Turner by Champs.
In reply to Headley
Time (distance) will tell with regards to the LJ.
I agree with you on Clarke, his race distribution and more importantly his background training has to step up to match his talent
The problem with Clarke us the injuries he has had 3 injuries the last 3 seasons and is actually coming off a surgery last season.
I also agree that Kerr won't get ahead of Turner and Brown.
In the Class 2 high Jump Lamar Reid will score.
Also don't see Farr finishing that high.
Solid prediction but lots a little adjustments to be made.
In reply to Jamstar
Additionally, he must develop a love for the mileage.
He is an interesting case, can score in four events. I will not be surprised by anything he does this weekend, he is that type of talent.
In reply to Jamstar
Useful to know that. I knew he had niggles but did not know about major injuries and surgery.
In reply to Headley
See Matherson on the start list for heat 2 / 200,and Taylor in heat 1.
In reply to RoyalDad
Good to know. I am just keeping my fingers crossed.
I've made some changes based on recent entry developments.
My eyes test shows a massive CHS victory, however, my numbers say a very close Champs.
In reply to JoeGrine
Always follow the numbers.
Where is the start list available?
In reply to Headley
Hard to follow the numbers when all season CHS has shown improvements in areas that they were lacking such as distance races and Class 3 overall.
They say numbers don't lie so lets go!
http://issasports.com/results/champs18/
In reply to JoeGrine
Calabar High and Edwin Allen High schools are highly favoured to retain their titles at the 108th staging of the Inter-secondary Schools Sports Association (ISSA)/GraceKennedy Boys' and Girls' Athletics Championships which start today inside the National Stadium at 1:00 pm.
Calabar High will be hunting their seventh consecutive hold on the prestigious Mortimer Geddes Trophy and their 28th overall, while Edwin Allen look safe for their fifth-straight and sixth overall.
But the likes of Kingston College (KC) and Jamaica College (JC) will make life difficult for Calabar High in the boys' section, with Hydel High, St Jago High and Holmwood Technical aiming to end Edwin Allen's reign in the girls' section.
The five-day championships, arguably the biggest high school event in the world, will be another fascinating one full of drama, excitement, joy, and sadness.
Calabar High, after narrowly defeating KC last year in the final race, have looked awesome all season, and the pundits are predicting an easy victory by at least 60 points.
The Observer view
In reply to JoeGrine
Thanks. Noticed that Rhoden is running 800m and steeple. It has taken the KC coach 4 years but it seems he has learned what every Champs fan knows: Your second best 800m boy should run the medley - unless of course you have 3 of the top 8.
In reply to Headley
KC coming into Champs has shown an improvement in athlete allocation. I love the Rhoden move to the Steeple, if he is in contact he could win.
I did state earlier Rowe must run the Medley Relay for KC to have a chance at winning the event. With Ellis and Rhoden in the 800 it seems Rowe will indeed anchor.
CHS not having Taylor in the 400m could come back to haunt them.
In reply to JoeGrine
No points for Wolmer's Xavier Nairne in class 1 200 and 100, is he injured?
I am rooting for Mannings School!
In reply to bedydread
What's up Bedy?
Both Wolmerians were next in at 100m. Nairne was not healthy early season and I cannot fit him into the 200.
I hope with you that he will fit himself in.
In reply to JoeGrine
Respect Don, you know I have to rep me boys
I saw him at the Carifta trials 200m and he came 2nd to Taylor so I figured he should have at least been in the finals. anyway no biggie as you know is what happen on the day that counts.
Age Quod Agis
DAY 1 RECAP
CHS - not running Taylor in the 400m could cost them points. Their Class 3 sprint not looking so good. Carpenter clearly track athlete of the day. They maintain front runner status.
JC - stayed on the form charts nothing went wrong.
KC - Matherson out, Stennett and Rhoden raising eyebrows in a concerning way.
In reply to JoeGrine
How Xavier look? 😀
In reply to bedydread
Looks like he will be fitting himself into that 200m finals
In reply to JoeGrine
Jamaica College (JC) and Kingston College (KC) suffered minor hiccups on the opening day of the Inter-secondary Schools Sports Association (ISSA)/GraceKennedy Boys' and Girls' Athletics Championships as long jumper Paketo Dudley and Romain Brown in the javelin, both failed to reach the final in events they were tipped for silver medals.
Dudley, who was seventh last year with 7.06m, could only muster a best of 6.72m (3.6 mps) and finished 16th overall. However, his teammate Safin Willis leapt 7.32m (3.1 mps) from Flight Two, while favourite Wayne Pinnock of KC easily qualified with one jump of 7.32m (4.7 mps) from Flight One. KC's Shaquille Lowe left it late on his third and final jump to surpass the qualifying mark of 7.00m with a jump of 7.03. Both Calabar athletes Alexander Thompson (7.31) and Daniel Allen (7.03) safely navigated their way to the final.
In the javelin throw, Brown, who had the longest throw this season of 55.53m, registered a weak 44.05m and was eliminated from Flight One which was won by Tajay Broomfield of JC with 49.56m. Calabar's Kobie Henry threw 51.64m and head into the final with the best throw. KC's Shakwon Coke threw 50.93m.
More here
In reply to JoeGrine
KC - Matherson out, Stennett and Rhoden raising eyebrows in a concerning way.
Joe
Concerning meaning positive?
Thought of Taylor not running the 400 also crossed my mind. Are they over confident here? Surely, this puts Morris in the drivers seat, unless Carpenter has been dogging it pre champs.
Looks even so far with KC showing that Kerr and Nkrumie will be a force to reckon with in class 3.
Saw race with Stennett. Concern for sure in a negative way. He looked easy coming off turn and then something threw his motion off.
In reply to RoyalDad
KC has reasons for optimism and doubts. Given the anticipated CHS romp there is absolutely no more margin for error on the Purple side of the ledger.
Javelin - big KC failure
200m - Matherson no-show and Stennett's gimpy run
2000SC - Rhoden took forever to leave the track laying flat on his back.
On the positive side, Adrian Kerr is healthy and primed for the double with his teammate Nkumrie following behind. Stennett showed a turn of speed yesterday that should make even Sachin Dennis take notice!
CHS has done two puzzling things (1) not running Taylor in the 400m which is rank overconfidence and (2) not using Venson in the Class 2 800m.
In reply to JoeGrine
Optimism for Matherson was always wishful thinking. Back to where we were last year per 100/200.
Can Morris account for a 2nd place in the 200? Carpneter will be tough to get by.
Pundits are indicating that Bann is being held for some kind of contribution in 400/ relay. Thoughts?
Stennetts run was very impressive until final 20 yds when he pulled a " what the ".Denis and Watson looked awesome.
Did not see Rhoden's race. Hope all is well.
Not only was javelin a "minor" setback, Pinnock has JC and CBar on his tail.
Kerr and Nkrumie. Quinellas all over the track.Did not know Nkrumie was a long jumper before to breaking out.
KC always runs out of the blocks fast and furious on days 1 and 2. Can we withstand the oncoming wave days 3 and 4.?
I am reading some of the comments here and I am wondering if I am watching the same championships????
Good news for the KC supporters:
1) Matherson had gastroenteritis, got a medical exemption and will run the 100m
2) Stennett is healthy
In reply to JoeGrine
Great.Let's move on.
In reply to Jamstar
As you can see this is basically a three man rotation. Your comments are welcome and any new info would be a plus.
Calabar drop huge points in the class 3 4x100 after a DNF.
They are first after day 1 on 25 points and KC second on 17 points.
DAY 2 RECAP
CHS - dropped points in the Class 3 (dnf) 4x100. That's safely 10 points down the chute. Their long jumpers in both classes came up big.
KC - lost out in the Class 1 Long Jump and has to manage nicks (Matherson, Stennett, Williams).
JC - does not have the depth to compete.
KC's day by default.
In reply to JoeGrine
Nah man Wolmers day too, we in 4th place for now, I guess those long jump points was not expected.
He he he he
In reply to bedydread
Actually had Bogle for 3rd
age quod agis
In reply to JoeGrine
Williams??
In reply to Headley
Class 3 400m boy who is a potential medalist. He left the track on a stretcher.
This is the type of Champs JC wins, they sneak up on you when you least expect, I know you think they lack depth, but after tomorrow the picture will become clearer, I am somewhat concerned about Cbar misteps, this may be a sign of things to come.
So far JC have made the least mistakes, with KC and Cbar you win big but you also loose big with mishaps, I can't shake the feeling that JC will be close when it all shakes down.
I would be very concerned by the niggles and injuries from KC, CB=bar overconfident and point drop could come home to haunt them, they may come to regret having Taylor doing one individual event.
My two cents.
In reply to bedydread
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Depth.
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In reply to bedydread
CHS is racking up the finalists and finalists equals "points".
JC just does not have the depth and will need CHS to absolutely self-destruct.
KC I said on Wednesday they could not yield any more points and they did in the Class 1 LJ. They, like JC, need some help from CHS.
WOL - taking nibbles here and there
Calabars not making the 4x100 Class 3 final is not a big deal if their Class 1 delivers what is expected. They were expected to get at least 10 points in that relay so valuable points down the drain but they did as they was predicted to do in the Class 2 Long Jump and did better than they were projected to do in the Class 1 equivalent. They would have got back 5 of those points lost.
KC and JC on track.
Todays finals will make this much clearer.
In reply to archangel
Cbar DQ in class 1 4x100 relay too, Joes assessment is good but I have watched so many champs over the years and my Spidy sense is tingling, this will be a nail biting champs either way.
Bump just read they were reinstated.
400mH HEATS
CHS - lost valuable points when Henry (Class 1) went down
KC - lost valuable points when Forrest (Class 2) did not start.
How can a boy's school (KC) with over 1000 students fail to find two boys for the Class 1 1500m?
In reply to JoeGrine
This one is still baffling all the commentators.
In reply to Jamstar
You are supposed to lose Champs on the track not off the track due to things like that. I can understand a school with no championship hope but KC?
In reply to JoeGrine
Defending champions Calabar High surged to 25 points after two finals and hold an eight-point advantage over fierce rivals Kingston College (KC) after day two of the Inter-secondary Schools Sports Association (ISSA)/GraceKennedy Boys' and Girls' Athletics Championships last night.
But Calabar would be left a little peeved after a botched first exchange resulted in their Class Three 4x100m relay team failing to make the final.
KC are second on 17 points ahead of St Jago on nine, with Wolmer's Boys' just behind on eight points. Cornwall College complete the top five on six points, and Jamaica College on five points are in sixth spot.
More here
In reply to JoeGrine
Planning Joe.
Injury management last year. This year planning.
In reply to RoyalDad
Any way you cut it the management and planning is lacking and has been in evidence in the KC program for a while not just last year.
I remember the misuse of Bann in Class 2 at Gibson when coming off an injury they had him open up in the 4x100, that ended his season.
In reply to JoeGrine
Couldn't agree more.
Back in the day they would use a cortisone shot ( Bally Reid ) and send you to the starting blocks.
This run CBar is on would have been cut short three seasons ago.
As for Bann, any news on his status?
In reply to RoyalDad
They are saying now that it looks like Matherson not showing up for the 100m heats..they are going on now. Injury management or a madda woman from st thomas. Stevens looked easy running 10.43. I want a clash
In reply to rudebway
Matherson just jogged 10.47.
In reply to RoyalDad
DWL
In reply to rudebway
He looks good. Hope all stays healthy.
In reply to RoyalDad
Kevona Davis... good Lord.. 22.92, slowing down at the end to glance at the clock. This girl is progressing very well
In reply to rudebway
Yes sah. She is impressive. Just need Brianna too to stay healthy and move in the same direction. Then again there is the other Briana who is blazing her own trail. Girls looking up.
In reply to RoyalDad
Kevona is the top of the class but what I like is that there are lots of other not so far behind.
Was pleased like puss to see a fit looking Matherson. If Bann was fit my joy would be complete.
In reply to RoyalDad
Just hold off with the champagne of Brianna W
DAY 3 RECAP
CHS - held serve, good news for CHS
KC - held serve, bad news for KC they needed to make inroads or hope for CHS mishaps, neither happened.
JC - lack depth
WOL - I see you Nairne
Carpenter - where did you get that turn of speed from? He looked better than Taylor in their 200m semis
Matherson - his presence lifted the KC camp
Spot on with the comments, just got back from the stadium after a long day calling races.
In reply to rudebway
KC's prodigy Jhevaughn Matherson, now under the guidance of Glen Mills at Racers Track Club, was registered for the Class One 200m but failed to show for the event on Tuesday's opening day.
Pretty much what happened is he has gastro (gastroenteritis) with vomiting and we took him to the doctor and they said he needed at least 24 hours before he can compete any at all, Harrison told the Jamaica Observer.
So that's pretty much where Matherson is concerned. I took in the medical so, as far as I know, once he feels better, he will show up for the 100m, he added.
The blue riband 100-metre events are set to begin today with the final set for tomorrow night. Matherson has not run an individual 100m event all season after coming back from injury last season.
More here
In reply to mikesiva
Pressure in him giznik.
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In reply to Ewart
Thanks as from the article I thought it was in his stomach area.
On a more serious note, his presence in the 100m has lifted the spirits of the KC hopeful/faithful.
In reply to Headley
Same here. Matherson was a big lift. He looks so nonchalant and his demeanor disguises his dominance.
In reply to JoeGrine
No mistaking her ability Joe. From last year to now she has moved forward without a doubt.
Don't think the bubbly will burst on this one.
In reply to RoyalDad
You are more keen on her than I am. Time of course will reveal it all.
If you are not keen on Kevona then you blind as bat, Kevona's challenge will not be to improve but to stay healthy.
In reply to Jamstar
I was referencing Brianna Williams and I think Royal Dad was as well.
In reply to JoeGrine
Thank you.
In reply to RoyalDad
For a moment I thought that purple tinted glasses had damaged your eyes..lol. I think we all agreed that its just a matter of avoiding injury for Kevona...she eased up glanced around and ran sub 23. In regards to Matherson I am going to wait until he gets pushed in the semis to see if pressure buss pipe
In reply to rudebway
I don't think anyone here is knocking Kevona. She and young Brianna are the two most exciting girl sprinters to come to Champs in a while. Then there is the new kid on the block Briana, who just ran a 11.13 in Florida. Kevona is legit.
Matherson we hope for the best and that he competes injury free. It will be good for Champs.
In reply to JoeGrine
. and KC is leading, at least at some point today.
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In reply to RoyalDad
Stennett looked good in his 100m a few minutes ago. Kc looking good in the sprints in class 2. And as I posted before, nothing better than a clash without injuries.. I really want to see Matherson run.
In reply to RoyalDad
And kemona just took kimone Shaws 100m record.
Sorry guys thought you were referring to Kevona.
In reply to rudebway
Able to access champs and saw semi finals. Everyone came out injury free and that sets up for clash this evening. JC,KC and CBar.
Kevona is good.
In reply to RoyalDad
CBar 1,2 in Class 2 800m. Very impressive. Big kudos to the Henry twins, first year class2 with a 4,5 finish.
In reply to RoyalDad
Nice vibes in the stadium today. I hope it continues through tomorrow. Glad you were able to access a feed to watch it on. KC will need to pull back some points in the 100 m as the calabar 1500 meters runners performed very well
It's official now, CHS are the 2018 champions.
This after the Class 2 400mH
In reply to JoeGrine
Numbers don't lie.
Too many multiple finalist.
In reply to rudebway
Stevens should not have run. Big blunder by team. Just do a Matherson like last year.
Stennett darn good runner. With Kerr and Nkrumie next year, devastating trio.
In reply to RoyalDad
I would not have let him run.
Matherson let you down again...
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In reply to RoyalDad
Too many multiple finalist.
I called it early. But I also noted that by next year the recruitment process will be a lot harder. The signs are clear.
Shanta will be back. Matherson may need to take a year off and that means no scholarship.
In reply to RoyalDad
Agree...huge mistake..Stevens was in distress and they basically held up the race about 20 minutes for him. They should have over ruled his ego and sit him
As for Matherson, will be interesting to hear purple thoughts after his little hissy fit.
Xavier bronze, big up yute, beat all the youth who beat him in semi.
Boy have guts, age quod agis
Wolmers in 4th now, pundits were saying even Petersfield would dust us, I dont see it.
He he he
DAY 4 RECAP
CHS - will retain the title
KC - recruiting and management failure continue to malign the team.
JC - lack the depth
WOL - Bedy did warn us
ISSA - what were the CHS staff doing on the track at the start of the 100m? Did the lengthy delay contribute to Matherson's injury?
ISSA - the schedule definitely needs revamping.
In reply to JoeGrine
Not KC recruiting fault but KC MANAGEMENT!!!! Bann, Bjorn Clarke, Stennett, Williams, Forester, Bryan Matty ect ect all injured and unable to score. If KC hopes to ever win champs they have to look at the management, first place to start is the track stars who play football.
The Calabar coaching was allowed on the field because a national treasure had an injury and required attention before the start, I hope the same would be done for ANY athlete from any school who had the same amount of potential.
BTW the race went of at the scheduled time of 8.35
In reply to rudebway
The race went off as scheduled.
If anyone is to be blamed it would be the officials who brought the athletes out too early so they had to wait.
Of course this time allowed all the histrionics with cell phone call and all.
My understanding is that Stephens was advised not to run but went against management.
Unfortunate what happened to Matherson and Stephens. You have to start thinking if the former will ever have future in track. Rumor has it that he was assessed in Germany and told to take a year off due to scar tissue issues. So many things have gone wrong here.
In reply to rudebway
The fourth day of the 108th staging of the ISSA/GraceKennedy Boys' and Girls' Athletics Championship came to a thrilling end a short while ago with three records being broken in the explosive 100m finals at the National Stadium.
The first record fell in the boys Class three event where Kingston College's Nkrumie Bouwahjgie clocked 10.79 to lower the previous mark of 10.85 set in 2013 by Jhevaughn Matherson also of KC.
He won ahead of teammate Adrian Kerr who finished in 10.81 while Calabar's David Lynch was third in 11.08.
The second came in the girls' Class two event where the sensational Kevona Davis of Edwin Allen clocked a special 11.16 to lower the 11.35 which she set earlier in the semi-finals. She won ahead of Hydel's Ray-donna Lee (11.58 ) and Julien Alfred (11.64) of St Catherine in a positive 0.1 metres per second wind speed.
In the boys' class two event, Sachin Dennis of STETHS sped to a new National Youth and meet record of 10.20, lowering 10.29 set by Raheem Chambers in a positive 2.0 metres per second wind speed. He won ahead of KC's Terrique Stennett whose 10.27 is the fastest by a first year Class two athlete.
More here
In reply to JoeGrine
While I may grudgingly admit to the eventual outcome," It isn't over till it's over". So said the fat lady.
KC needs to make up 30 plus points on a day when CBars class 1 will be in action. Prognosis? NOT GOOD.
Our athletes continue to fall by the wayside because of bad management. We have the talent and depth to win but management is causing irreparable damage.
Just crazy TO SEE RACE AFTER RACE CBar FINISHING 1-2;1-3. CANT BEAT THOSE ODDS MAN.
In reply to Headley
Matherson will need more than a year. Maybe 2. It took Yohan 2 years to recover. Same situation ....maybe. Just sad to see this kid lose out like this.
In reply to Headley
Their distance team has lived up to the billing. No doubt.
Twins did great. Better next year for sure.
Stennett is real man. Did not know he had to false start in 200. What were the circumstances?
Nkrumie and Kerr. What a pair!! Buss up Mathersons record. Did not see that coming.
In reply to archangel
Interesting if it went off on time. I stand corrected on that point. Then you would be correct that they came out too early. I was watching the proceedings, and not checking the actual timeliness of the schedule. The only time I look at the schedule is to figure out when to go buy food. Lol. what is not in doubt though is the the time that elapsed between the girls class one and boys class 100 was longer than The wait between the other 100m races by far. Thats why I and others thought it was held up/delayed. During this wait you could see Stevens on the ground, then on his phone. It seems he went against advise and decided to run.
By the way, My post was not meant to imply the race was held up to benefit stevens. I was just amazed that he ran, after seeeing during this delay he was obviously in distress. Not sure if he was on the phone with medical personnel or management or his handlers, but he should not have been Allowed to run
In reply to Headley
Isnt he enrolled at FSU ? Was that a scholarship or did he just enroll? Just asking. Iam pretty sure I read he was going to Florida State. For his long term future he might be better off taking the time to recover. The pressure cooker at champs is tough.
They normally bring them out a bit early to build the atmosphere inside the stadium.
You cannot have a race about to be contested and there are team attaché on the track. The Stephens issue (to run or not to run) should have been decided prior to him being marshalled in. Once he is in the custody of the marshalls only Stephens can decide if he should run or not. The negative implications of having team attaché on the track are numerous.
I am not blaming CHS on this one ISSA has to tighten its protocols.
In reply to Jamstar
As I indicated earlier it is both management and recruiting that has hamstrung KC.
Now when I say recruiting I do not just mean from outside the school but also inside. You cannot have a boy's school with close to 2000 boys and yet only field one athlete in some events when you are trying to win a championships. That is recruiting.
You cannot have Taylor, Stephens, Carpenter, Wilson and Russell running roughshod over you for six years and not try to dent their impact. That is recruiting.
Now the treatment given to Bann, Matherson etc. as it relates to their injury, that is management.
Brown and Williams splitting time with football, that is management.
Making weird event choices for athletes at Champs, that is management.
Based on what I am seeing KC is poised to win champs in the next year or two, they definitely have the better class 3 and 2 materials to work with, If they improve on management and strategy as per Joegrine then it is a matter of time, wont happen this year.
In reply to bedydread
Those who say Calabar is weak in Class 2 are only looking at the 100/200.
They finished 1-2 in the long jump, 1-3 in the 1500 won the shot Brown broke the triple jump in the preliminaries Lamar Reid may very well take the high jump and they also have the top qualifier in the discus.
They are very strong in class 2.
In reply to rudebway
I believe he has been accepted at FSU. Do not know if he will be eligible for scholarship if he if seriously injured and will need to sit out the year.
In reply to Jamstar
The reality of the situation is that most people just look at the sprints.
What they dont realize is that you can pick up sprinters on the way, but technical field event talent is not that easy to nurture. It takes more time.
That is why I like Excelsiors approach.
In reply to Jamstar
It's interesting to see a man argue so cogently when he has missed the point. Beddy was saying CBar will be weak in class 2 NEXT year when Turner, Reid, Venson etc are in class 1, not THIS year.
In reply to RoyalDad
It seemed like an intentional and very sensible false start in the 200m semis to preserve him for the 100m final. BTW a number of 100m and 400m athletes did the deliberate false start in the 200m semis.In reply to RoyalDad
In reply to Headley
Stennett did in the 200m, to preserve his 100m effort, what Scott did to him last year on his way to winning the Class 3 200m. Scott (Ruseas) false started out of the 400m semis and one uped Stennett in the 200m finals.
It was a calculated move by Stennett and the others this year and Scott last year.
In reply to JoeGrine
I did not remember Scott in the 400m false start last year, but those are good examples of strategic false starts to focus the effort elsewhere.
It occurred to me that Stennett moved his PB from 10.87 to 10.37 in one season. No doubt the conditions for good times were excellent last night.
Dennis in 10.20 has blurred the class 1 and class 2 times.
In reply to archangel
CBar and JC have also introduced good middle distance programmes during the past 3 - 4 years.
In reply to Headley
Rumblings in the stadium is that Matherson is at uwi now, and plans to run the 4 x 1. Its just rumblings but we will see. Now that would be interesting.
5 class 2 girls sub 54 in the 400m. Ja is showing a strong 400m revival.
In reply to RoyalDad
$%>)( 45.09 $%>)(
In reply to Headley
RESPECT to Morris!!
Performance of the meet so far for me.
I did not say Cbar was weak in class 2, I said KC have better material to work with, they will dominate class2 next year like how CBar used to dominate with Wilson,Taylor Russel etc.
The twin brothers will score heavily in the distance events, when you are rich with several great sprinters this should translate to hurdles and long jump success if coaching and strategy are maximised not just sprints.
As you may guess I am a Wolmerian that does not carry water for KC, as a matter of fact CBar is my next team at champs, however when all these super boys move on next year KC will make great in roads.
I won't get into the silly argument about sprint vs long distance except to say that last I checked
100,200,400,100/400hurdles,long jump,4x100,medley 200, 4x4 open provide considerable greater number of opportunities vs middle to long distance runners, enough said.
In reply to JoeGrine
Yes sah. Will questions arise " What if " per Taylor in the race? Just a hypo.
In reply to Headley
KC needs to do likewise.( Establish better/ consistent distance program.)
In reply to RoyalDad
Morris went where Taylor (despite his enormous talent) has never been.
Calabar will not be weak in Class 2 not next year, athletes like Luke Brown will remain in the Class and Athletes that were recruited like David Martin will become eligible.
In reply to JoeGrine
Well JoeG Nairne not only made the 100 and 200 finals but he represented well, congrats to Taylor and all the youths, Jam T&F live and well.
In reply to bedydread
Nairne definitely marked the register at the 2018 Champs.
In reply to JoeGrine
In reply to Jamstar
You do realize that KC will have Stennett, Kerr and Nkrumie in the same class next year along with the Henry twins, Brown, Williams etc. We are surely lacking in the hurdles dept, so something must be done to counter this as CBar is stronger here.
I will even say our class 1 will be better than theirs as the quartet will be gone along with the complimentary staff....Carpenter,Williams and several others.
Have to check to see where both class 3 stack up. Feel free to divulge any info related to this class.
CHAMPS RECAP
CHS: Congratulations on a well orchestrated victory. This school has the blueprint for victory and despite eminent losses out of Class 1 on the horizon, they are well stacked to pursue eight straight.
KC: has to get their management and coaching staffs firing at optimum. I have already highlighted their shortcomings. Sprint lovers can point to Stennett, Kerr and Nkumrie and it is a mouthwatering prospect, however, a lot can change over 12 months.
JC: gradually building and they will have a strong Class 2 and 3 next year.
It should be a much closer Champs in 2019 and I could see 30 points separating the top 3 schools.
PERMORMERS OF CHAMPIONSHIPS
Nkumrie, Kerr, Nethersole, Dennis, Stennett, Watson, Venson, Russell,Taylor, Morris, James, Pinnock, Wilson R. Williams and Carpenter
SURPRISES OF CHAMPIONSHIPS
Carpenter
Stennett running 10.37 as a first year Class 2
Meadowbrook, Papine, Ferncourt, Morant Bay and York Castle being mentioned; may you find the resources to stave off the pirates dressed in purple, green and blue.
DISAPPOINTMENTS OF CHAMPIONSHIPS
CHS support staff during the Class 1 100m
Matherson closing out his Champs career the way he did
Empty lanes from “false” starts and noshows
WHERE HAVE YOU DISAPPEARED TO
Herbert Morrison
St. Georges
Camperdown
GIRLS
Respect to Salmon (double), Cameron (11.2), Davis, Young, Clayton and Lee
Good to see Tichfield, Ruseas, Buff Bay, Mt Alvernia in the mix
What is Wolmers final placing?
In reply to bedydread
Last time I checked they were in 6th:
CHS
KC
JC
JAGO
STETHS
In reply to RoyalDad
Sigh you need to look again.
Nkrumie stays in class 3 Kerr moves up to join Stennett.
The class 3 800 champion David Martin moved to calabar this year and will be able to run next year and he is one of a number of athletes they recruited in class 2.
In class 1 Taylor stays as he is currently repeating 5th form as a matter of fact all that quartet stays if they want to as they have one more year left. Carpenter and Williams leaves but venson and Marshall moves up as will Whitehorn.
Calabar starts favorite for Champs 2019 but it will be close.
In reply to Jamstar
Like I said, info is always welcome. Isn't Wilson going to FSU?
Class 2 is still Watson's domain but if Kerr goes with Stennett,KC looks good even still.
Nkrumie remains in class 3 is even better for KC.
After all is said and done,KC needs to find hurdlers.Big downfall.
Watson moves to Class 1.
Wilson may leave but hr does have one more year remaining.
KC lost by 90 points and that's with Calabar not scoring in 2 relays to turn that around in one year especially with the ton load of Calabar recruits being eligible next year is a big ask.
In reply to Jamstar
Nkumrie and Kerr has been traveling together throughout the classes. He like Kerr should be Class 2 in 2019.
In reply to JoeGrine
Edwin Allen win the girls again?
In reply to Jamstar
Yes. Could be asking a lot to turn around, especially if those mentioned stay another year at CBar.
However, let's see where KC recruitment takes them next year. Surely, they too haven't been sitting around knitting.
Class 3 now becomes vital for both.
In reply to mikesiva
Edwin - girls
CHS - boys
In reply to JoeGrine
Nkrumie was primary school champion for Black River in 2016, his first year for KC was last year. He is first year 3.
In reply to RoyalDad
Calabar can out compete KC in the corporate and Central region in terms of recruiting, they have instead set up stall out west and I'm the east and have picked up major talent in all classes you saw one of those athletes this year in Kai Chang.
Romaine Beckford of Buff Bay is a HUUUUUGGGGE talent if he switches to either KC or Calabar it would be a huge acquisition.
He won the High Jump and Discus. If he ever picks up the decathlon he is a future record holder and multiple Olympic medalist.
In reply to Jamstar
Nkrumie ran last year in the relays I believe. How is he still 1st year?
Beckford was running back and forth to do two disciplines at the same time and won both. Good catch I agree for either team. He would have to sit out a year..no?
Don't know dynamics of who can out compete each other.KC gets their fair share of talent but need to improve as Joe indicated.
Carifta next week.
Nkrumie was class 4 last year, he is a year younger than Kerr.
In reply to Jamstar
OK.Thanks. Guess we'll be looking at breaking more records next year...all things injury free.
In reply to RoyalDad Joe Grine, Rudebway, Jamstar, Arch A and Bedy
Was dealing with construction matters yesterday until time for the 400m races and all day today.
Good discussion above. Did not expect KC to be close as I noted early in this thread.
Points to note re world class performances in the boys' events:
Not since D. Quarrie can I remember class 2 100m time being faster than class 1. (I missed a lot in the eighties and nineties pre-internet.)
MORRIS 45.09 is the stuff of movies and redemption. (There is a video of Morris in glasses in 2014 running in lane 8 class 3, 400m and C Taylor in lane 3 or 4 catches him at the 200m mark and a later shot shows Taylor entering the straight first and no Morris because his race was done before the straight.) Only Bloomfield and Francis are faster schoolboys.
Dejour Russell is a monster. Ja hurdles stock will get a big boost this year.
Antonio Watson is a monster. He has the carefree attitude which will serve him well in the pros. A good coach can make him into a world beater.
If Dennis continues on the same trajectory next year in the 100m he could be Jamaica's best by 2020.
That 10.37 was some serious running from Stennett a first year class 2 boy.
The class 3 heroics of Bouwaghie and Kerr need to be carefully handled. So far KC has got it right.
Venson is good but can he become a world class distance runner here in Ja?
Did I miss any world class performances in the boys?
In reply to Headley
Dennis will have problems going forward with a healthy Stennett.
Wainsworth Small (200m) was faster that his Class 1 temporaries.
In reply to Jamstar
Kerr was Class 4 last year as well. Nkumrie ran Class 3 this year at Gibson not Class 4, he and Kerr therefore goes into Class 2 next year.
In reply to JoeGrine
Girls
"Edwin Allen were not to be caught and slipped away after amassing 324 points, 35 points ahead of Holmwood Technical on 289 points, with Hydel four points behind in third on 285. St Jago (196 points) and Vere Technical (105 points) completed the top five."
Boys
"Calabar, who were winning for the seventh-consecutive year, amassed 368.5 points and finished well clear of Kingston College (KC) on 278. Jamaica College (JC) were third with 224.5 ahead of St Jago on 146 with St Elizabeth Technical High School (STETHS) completing the top five on 95 points."
I will change my prediction of Calabar entering Champs 2019 as favorites, KC's recruiting program has really delivered. Several foreign based athletes will be brought in as well as the signature a multiple class 2 champion secured.
In reply to JoeGrine
Stennett has confirmed that he has great top end speed. The problem is Dennis has a bullet start and good top end speed in a race limited to 100m. It would not surprise me if Stennett is always playing catch up to Dennis. The next 12 months will answer some questions.
I have a fleeting memory of Wainsworth Small. Was he an Excelsior boy?
In reply to Jamstar
Based on the above and earlier posts I am sure you are a part time suspense novelist. I will wait patiently for the next chapter.
In the tradition of the great writer/worthless man, Charles Dickens it is reported would sometimes go to the shop to buy writing paper and while there he would encounter a line of (mostly ladies) who were already waiting patiently for his next installment.
In reply to Headley
Wainsworth Small was a KC star from the get go. Not to divulge too much, he and I were classmates. He was fast. He once threatened me if I didn't show up on sports day to run in his relay race so he could get his gold medal. I did. He won.
In reply to RoyalDad
Thanks for filling in the gap.
In reply to Headley
NO prob.
These were the Jahman Henry,Ian Stapleton, Bally Reid,Maurice Beecher days.
In reply to RoyalDad
To further add to Royal Dad's piece, Small in 1978 won Class 2 200m in a record 21.5 with the Class 1 200m being won by Mills in 21.8. Of course the next year Small was 6th in the Class 1 final won by Mills in a record 20.7.
In reply to RoyalDad
Wainsworth Small was a KC star from the get go. Not to divulge too much, he and I were classmates. He was fast. He once threatened me
I will have to give "Rocking Head" Small a call to ask him how dear he threaten a fellow poster of the Caribbean Cricket forum.
In reply to JoeGrine
Please do so.
And yes, when he ran his head was always rocking. Hated Mr.Gs PE classes.
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