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HEADLINE: WINDIES HEADS TO INDIA FOR A FULL TOUR

 
CaribbeanCricket.com 2018-08-29 09:34:24 

ST JOHN’S, Antigua – WINDIES Men will be in India for almost seven weeks starting September 26. They will compete against India in 2 Tests, 5 ODIs and 3 T20s.

West Indies and India have played 94 Tests against each other since 1948. West Indies has won 30, lost 28 and drawn 46 matches.

The Selection Panel has assembled a 15-man squad for the Tests. The squad reads:

Jason Holder (captain), Sunil Ambris, Devendra Bishoo
Kraigg Brathwaite, Roston Chase,Shane Dowrich
Shannon Gabriel,Jahmar Hamilton,Shimron Hetmyer
Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Keemo Paul
Kieran Powell, Kemar Roach Jomel Warrican

Chairman of Selectors, Courtney Browne says “The panel congratulates Jason Holder and his team on the excellent performance against Bangladesh. As the team embarks on a tough tour of India the successes against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh should hold them in good stead during the India series. The panel welcomes back Sunil Ambris who missed the last couple of series due to injury, along with Jomel Warrican who adds a second spin bowling option to the attack.”


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doosra 2018-08-29 09:46:18 

best wishes

Kohli seh he go tek rest

 
Dukes 2018-08-29 10:00:55 

No controversial selections. For once I think I agree with the selectors

 
positiveg 2018-08-29 10:44:17 

In reply to Dukes

when was the last time you think you agree wid dem man?
Not being mischievous but it's been a really long time since they come up with a team that most persons feel ok with.

 
jacksparrow 2018-08-29 10:49:10 

India probabaly agree with the selectors too
big grin Gonna be a long hard tour hope the batsmen can step up to the challenge

 
Seechy 2018-08-29 11:12:55 

Ramdin for Hamilton.

 
Narper 2018-08-29 11:32:07 

In reply to Dukes

I would have taken Cornwall.

With Shai Hope as back up wicketkeper I would not take Hamilton

 
Kay 2018-08-29 11:39:15 

In reply to Seechy

That's the test squad and Dowrich most likely will be the keeper. They will probably include Ramdin in the ODI/T20 squads later but then again Hamilton will already be in India. Hope is also an option.... so it look like cat nyam Ramo dinner smile

 
doosra 2018-08-29 11:41:06 

Warrican will have a good time there big grin

 
Larr Pullo 2018-08-29 11:57:42 

I agree with the team BUT...the batting is exceedingly thin and inexperienced.

Aside from that we'll be bowling for declarations because the chances of that group of bowlers taking 20 wickets in India is slim and none.

Expect to lose the tests by and innings and plenty!

 
sgtdjones 2018-08-29 12:04:24 

Can Gabriel and Roach remain injury free after two days playing cricket.

 
Larr Pullo 2018-08-29 12:07:14 

In reply to sgtdjones

Two days? I'm thinking they'll be in doubt after 2 sessions... lol lol lol

 
Khaga 2018-08-29 12:55:31 

WI still lead head to head..write WI off at your own peril!

 
Maispwi 2018-08-29 13:08:27 

Why travel with 4 keepers?

 
openning 2018-08-29 13:13:56 

In reply to Narper

The team is missing an opener to partner Kraigg.
Hetty has not been opening, and I prefer him at either #1 or #2, strictly base on the International batting position he batted recently.
We've seen Hope, Johnson and others force into opening slot with very little success, is they not one of the eleven openers from the last recent regionals, that can fill that slot?

 
Narper 2018-08-29 13:16:37 

In reply to openning

Powell is an opener

 
Larr Pullo 2018-08-29 13:16:53 

In reply to openning

Good question...they already jettison you know who, and will ask some poor youngster to sacrifice his career on the alter of expediency.

 
imusic 2018-08-29 13:21:26 

In reply to Larr Pullo
So let me see if I understand this correctly

If you are indeed advocating for Devon Smith to be selected for this tour, it’s not based on his performance, but rather protecting a young cricketer from potential failure?

How much more noble can one get? cool

 
jacksprat 2018-08-29 13:27:04 

In reply to imusic

If you are indeed advocating for Devon Smith to be selected for this tour, it’s not based on his performance, but rather protecting a young cricketer from potential failure?

It's like using one proven failure to protect against a potential failure - can't make this "logic" up!

Intangibles anyone?!!!

It's somewhat akin to using a poison as an antidote to nullify the effects of another poison.

 
Seechy 2018-08-29 13:50:55 

In reply to Larr Pullo

There is no experienced middle order bat in the squad. Where is the Shivmeister?

 
openning 2018-08-29 13:59:39 

In reply to Narper

Powell is an opener

Thanks for reminding me, he must had set the world on fire, since losing his spot to Devon Smith. lol lol

 
hubert 2018-08-29 14:36:54 

In reply to Dukes

History made. I cannot recall an official Test touring team with No Jamaican.

 
imusic 2018-08-29 14:41:32 

In reply to hubert

Welcome to the endangered species club cool

 
hubert 2018-08-29 14:44:48 

In reply to imusic
Not me..but I get your sharp point.

big grin big grin big grin

 
jacksprat 2018-08-29 14:55:58 

In reply to hubert

I cannot recall an official Test touring team with No Jamaican.

One of the more likely candidates, Jermaine Blackwood, is presumably deemed not to be "a proper batsman", despite having a test record comparable to, and in some cases better than, some who are in the squad.

It is reminiscent of when his compatriot , Chris Gayle, was also dismissed as being a "lead-foot" "prima donna" and 'not a proper batsman while myriad purveyors of mediocrity were chosen ahead of him.

History made

Is history repeating itself -first as a tragedy, then as a farce?

 
imusic 2018-08-29 15:01:36 

In reply to hubert

lol

 
DIEHARD 2018-08-29 15:02:13 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Must be a misprint...i don't see Miguel "selection for life" Cummins

 
imusic 2018-08-29 15:03:42 

In reply to jacksprat

We done know from director Condé Riley that the Trini players troublesome, greedy, and don’t care about Windies cricket.

Maybe the Jamaican players don’t read enough cool

 
mikelegend 2018-08-29 15:19:33 

In reply to Khaga

cool

 
Dukes 2018-08-29 15:21:33 

In reply to hubert

I must admit, I did not notice that. Lemme think about it and I will comment later.

 
jacksprat 2018-08-29 15:23:54 

In reply to imusic

We done know from director Condé Riley that the Trini players troublesome, greedy, and don’t care about Windies cricket.Maybe the Jamaican players don’t read enough

You may have a point!!
You can't have players who would deign to know their rights, and worth, and agitate for them rather than just be glad to be thrown some crumbs!

Plus the Jamaican players may add Hs, where they not belong, and be incapable of conjugating their verbs a la players from a particular territory! big grin

 
sunfish 2018-08-29 15:37:16 

First test eleven:

1 Brathwaite
2 Powell
3 Hetmyer
4 Hope
5 Chase
6 Dorwich
7 Holder
8 Bishoo
9 Roach
10 Joseph
11 Gabriel

 
thomasthomas 2018-08-29 15:45:20 

In reply to Larr Pullo

I see the selectors gambling with makeshift openers.

 
DIEHARD 2018-08-29 15:50:58 

In reply to sunfish

Warrican for Joseph...Bajan for a Bajan..say bet, no way Cummins dropped for a dottie

 
Maispwi 2018-08-29 16:07:24 

In reply to openning

Ah always tawt dat #1 and #2 were openers. You sure you eh mean one or 2 down?

 
Maispwi 2018-08-29 16:36:25 

In reply to Larr Pullo

No Smitty? Ah mean 2 series is too small a sample to make a judgement on and de Chief Selector did say dat people would be given a run in de team

 
openning 2018-08-29 17:20:57 

In reply to Maispwi

You sure you eh mean one or 2 down?

yes, one and two down.
They replace Powell with Devon, and recall him for doing nothing.

 
buds 2018-08-29 17:33:44 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

CBrung nuh tired of losing..He loves to lose. With this WI team India should play their C Team.

 
sunfish 2018-08-29 17:37:17 

In reply to DIEHARD
India pitches now favor fast men so I will go with pace as well, Chase will provide the second spinner option.

 
Maispwi 2018-08-29 18:35:32 

In reply to openning

You do know dat Ambris is an opener who has had to reinvent himself as a middle order batsman to get into de Windwards team since dey had two established openers in Smith and Theophile

 
openning 2018-08-29 19:23:59 

In reply to Maispwi
Same as Hetty, but these guys have not been opening, of late.
Can you list the last match Ambris opened?
Windward Openers : Theophile & Smith
Leewards: Hodge & Powell
Jamaica: Campbell & Walton
Barbados: Moseley
T&T; Jangoo & Solozano
Guyana: Chanderpaul & Hemraj

 
Emir 2018-08-29 19:32:13 

Serious concern about some of the selections: For starters, while I support Jason's inclusion, his continued appointment of captain is a horrible one.

In addition, I fail to see the logic in leaving out Darren Bravo

 
Drapsey 2018-08-29 19:40:36 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

This squad should do well. No Yardies there to peddle bad influence.

 
Robin 2018-08-29 20:03:17 

In reply to Maispwi

No disrespect mate - this recent series aside but Smith has had way more than two series to cement his position as an opener.

His recent performance suggests he has yet to correct the fatal flaw that gets him out time after time. This flaw was identified early in his career and pretty much ended his tenure as a test opener once test teams figured him out.

At present we are missing a decent opener to pair with Brathwaite - Smith, I wish he was, is NOT it. Powell at least has a chance to prove worthy. Gayle would be my preference but that is a done deal.

Egos on both sides (players and the board) need to be put aside and CWI needs to select the best players for the side regardless of age. Ramdin should play (quality and experience - for those too young, new or biased to recall - back in the day in Australia he and Dwayne Bravo managed to bat through two new balls facing Glenn McGrath, Brett Lee, Shane Warne and Stuart Macgill - that is no mean feat.

That said - Darren Bravo needs to be brought back into the fold - he is too good a batsman to be dismissed due to a small man with a big ego (D Cameron)- and yes my heritage is from that island.

 
Maispwi 2018-08-29 20:10:59 

In reply to openning

If an opener can reinvent himself as a middle order batsman he can do the reverse

 
Maispwi 2018-08-29 20:19:07 

In reply to Robin

ou shud have realised dat ah wasn batting for Smith from who the post was addressed to.

I am on record saying dat he shud not be recalled regardless of how many runs he scored in Regional cricket, but since posters were quoting de Chief Selector ah was just reminding them dat after scoring over 1000 runs, 2 series cyah be considered a run

 
Narper 2018-08-29 20:59:48 

In reply to openning

In reply to Narper

Powell is an opener

Thanks for reminding me, he must had set the world on fire, since losing his spot to Devon Smith. lol lol


The fact is he is an opener...he opens for LI in the regional 4 day competition...why look for someone to open who does not open in the regional competition

Oh Oh...did he light up the #3 position in tests?

He failed as an opener....he failed at #3...so why is he in the side? To find a batting spot for him?

 
Narper 2018-08-29 21:02:39 

In reply to openning

They replace Powell with Devon, and recall him for doing nothing.


Powell was batting at #3....he was dropped for Smith

 
Yadi 2018-08-29 22:12:57 

In reply to Narper

No Jamaicans.

 
mikesiva 2018-08-30 03:04:25 

In reply to DIEHARD

lol


Warrican.
rolleyes
Miller should be there instead.

 
CITYBOY 2018-08-30 07:39:43 

Hola... This is definitely a belly wuk tour....the on field play will give all of them belly wuk...and the food will do so also...big comedy club here...
Cornwall should had been number 1 pick...he would had slimmed right down after this tour.
As someone posted no Jamaicans here on tour..it would be interesting to have this team play against aselect Jamaican second 11...I aint want them to play the first team...let them try with the second.
Yup I am a pessimist on this tour...and who should not be??
ADios
CB

 
DIEHARD 2018-08-30 09:23:07 

In reply to Robin

You would drop Dowrich for Ramdin at this point?

Or play Ramdin as a batsman?

Playing him for Chase not a bad idea, but Chase is the spinning all rounder..

Is Holder a good enough bowler to bat 8 to include another batsman?

I don't think so, I think it has to be Dowrich 6, Holder 7, 4 bowlers, but yes Lil B needs to be in the mix

 
Slipfeeler 2018-08-30 10:07:42 

In reply to jacksprat

Still no Oshane Thomas?

This team is destined for plenty embarrassing blows in India, it might be a silver lining that no Yardies are on the team to be blamed.
big grin smile smile

 
Seechy 2018-08-30 10:33:55 

Our best 1st XI for Tests:

Gayle
Brathwaite
Hetmyer
Bravo
Chase
Ramdin
Holder
Bishoo
Joseph
Roach
Gabriel

 
Slipfeeler 2018-08-30 10:34:03 

In reply to CITYBOY

Totally agreeing with you City Boy, this will be an interesting tour and look for much finger-pointing. Happy that no Yardies will be blamed for once.
big grin big grin big grin

 
Narper 2018-08-30 11:25:54 

In reply to Yadi

In reply to Narper

No Jamaicans.


Brung implies Blackwood don't read enough

 
Dukes 2018-08-30 12:22:39 

In reply to hubert

I looked at Blackwood, Cotterell, Thomas, Samuels and Gayle and could find no compelling reason for any of them to be included in this touring team. Blackwood is on the cusp and some good performances in first class cricket for Jamaica and he could force his way back into the team.
Oshane Thomas has some potential and will have his opportunitites to impress in the regional first class tournament as also would Soldier Boy.
I think that Samuels is done and Gayle remains in the mix for the World cup.

 
hubert 2018-08-30 14:36:15 

In reply to Dukes

It does not matter to me who makes the team as I am not that keen on Waste Indies cricket and have been this way for years.
I was just pointing out the historic fact that after 90 years,with Jamaica providing the First WI captain too, that for a Test tour, no Jamaican
was included.
And i am certainly not an advocate or ever was for Jamaican players. However with the criteria for selection recently highlighted by the
chairman Brown,how can Nikita Miller not make this squad. Too many successful years in 4-day cricket ?
Only Permaul comes close in this regard. And yes, he can read.
Young Campbell as a left handed opener has not done enough, but others could argue that if a Devon Smith can be given 10 lives,
investment in a Campbell who also bowls offspin and has been around the 'A' team could have been made. I noticed he has
been sent to the 'B' team. It was always customary for a youngster to be sent on tour but things have changed and I would
not plug for Campbell.But Powell who did not overwhelm anyone in 4-day cricket and was not opening will ,I suppose be sent
back to do this duty with Paint.

If I had anything to with selection, my outside pick would be Keacy Carty. I do not share your view on Samuels. The middle order could
use his experience in India.
In summary, i expect some adjustments will be made for the Bangladesh leg in the Test squad. But for now Brown is speaking with
a forked tonge in Native American parlance. I am sure Brown could make a compelling argument of any of those Jamaicans you listed smile smile smile smile
Some folks say one's passport is vital. I could care less.....If alive I'll be watching some hockey to go along with marbles big grin

 
imusic 2018-08-30 15:05:55 

In reply to hubert

Even hockey more interesting...and certainly infinitely better administrated han West Indies cricket

Yet...the emotional ties to West Indies cricket are So strong....I simply can’t totally let go

So yes...it DOES matter which players represent us. The whole situation with West Indies cricket is sad.

 
hubert 2018-08-30 15:28:32 

In reply to imusic
Don't get me wrong. I sued to feel the same way about WI cricket...l o n g time ago. But that feeling has not been there
for a long time also..I just have too many other interesting things to
occupy me and I hardly watch. Heck I hardly post on her much.... But I still admire guys like you and many others that can't
help yourself where WI cricket ties are concerned. And that is why you all hurt so much. surprised surprised surprised

I remember in my first year at College, a guy told me during initiation ..that even one's
mother outgrows her usefulness at some point. I took that hard saying then to heart. But he was right.
It's the same with WI cricket. It has outgrown its usefulness to me a long time ago.

When I watch cricket, I watch real countries, India,England,Australia and the Saffies. No matter what they play 'Big Man' cricket so i try make time
to watch, not as much as before, but I watch when I can. I don't feel that WI cricket is representing me. Hell Franchise cricket does not either
so when I see Jamaican people fussing over games in Florida, I LMAO because it is not a Jamaica team.
We still in slavery man. Mental slavery .And that is the sad part. Any wonder the region that gave us identity is
not as advanced as it Should be ?

 
Slipfeeler 2018-08-30 15:38:40 

In reply to Dukes

Samuels will always be a better batsman than any of your top order or middle order batsmen and he has two World cup MVPs to prove it.

 
nick2020 2018-08-30 16:12:10 

In reply to imusic

Soca cricket flop.
Coucou cricket soon flop too.

 
Maispwi 2018-08-30 22:18:19 

How does CWI expect Regional cricket to improve if the best players for one reason or another are not available for major Regional Tournaments? And who but a philanthropist wud sponsor a regional Tournament with the most marketable players missing

 
brians_da_best 2018-08-31 11:27:30 

In reply to Seechy

Now why would you drop dowrich who was just MOM in the home series? And replace him with someone who struggled to average 25 over a long failed career?

 
jelfew 2018-08-31 13:10:26 

I really think the squad is the best we can come up with at this time. My only question mark would be against Bishoo but is there a better leg spinner in the WI now? Do we go for another quickie instead?

 
buds 2018-08-31 16:25:02 

In reply to Seechy

Sheldon Cottrell cannot make this team? Brung is an Idiot.