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CaribbeanCricket.com 2018-10-01 06:28:02 

 "Cricket West Indies should ponder the wisdom of wasting money in the hiring of these highly paid foreign coaches, without getting the commensurate returns." Andy Roberts

The narrative dominating the analysis of the performance of recently resigned head coach of the West Indies cricket team, Stuart Law, as it relates to improving the fortunes of the Test team, has been instructive, to say the least, in helping us to better understand the extent of the quagmire we find ourselves in.

Why is there even a debate whether a Windies cricket coach is a success when his record of guiding the team in 15 Test matches shows him winning six, losing seven, and drawing two, with an ordinary 40 per cent win ratio, and a 46 per cent loss ratio? The Windies are also still ranked an embarrassing number eight of 10 Test-playing nations, only above Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Yet, Law's name is being mentioned in the same sentence as success, showing the desperate depths to which our standards have fallen.

Considering that the results and rankings of the Windies have plummeted in the other two versions of the game to all-time lows, all things considered, Stuart Law should be unceremoniously chased out of town as an abysmal failure, instead of being softly celebrated as some kind of success.

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CITYBOY 2018-10-01 06:56:31 

Hola.....et al...ha..ha...as someone says on this board..""if ah laff ah gon fart"""..well something to that effect..
I cant remember writing this article(lol)...Cityboy has been saying these same words and have been of the opinion since the hiring of Law that he is not up to the work..
Good he is gone...but he still leaves behind a bunch of incompetent nincompoops..WHO MUST EITHER BE ASKED TO LEAVE OR BE FIRED>
Jimmy ADams must be fired...he is not up to the work..debate finished....and we must dismantle all coaching staff and selectors...yup Browne days must be over...
with the results we are getting how can these be PAID positions with some of the most incompetent nincompoops our administration/cricket has ever experienced..
Calling right now..Jimmy Adams..Courtney Browne and support staff to be asked to leave....
Jimmy Adams has some fancy title ..ha ha.
Adios
CB

 
Slipfeeler 2018-10-01 09:15:09 

In reply to CITYBOY

Let say it again, there is a tendency in this region to alienate our cricket professionals while embracing foreigners who have no commitment to West Indies cricket. Many local coaches overlooked.

 
carl0002 2018-10-01 10:37:50 

There is a tendency for our players to disrespect their own countrymen as coaches, to the point of outright rebellion in some cases. We need not get into what Andy Roberts, Malcolm Marshall(may he rest in peace), Roger Harper, Augustine Logie (well.... never mind) to name just a few, had to endure as coaches of the WI team. And there is no doubt that these men were committed to WI cricket. There is more than enough blame on both sides. The administration literally had to seek out professional foreign coaches to at least garner some attention from our so called players. Some of you need to at least be aware of some history before you spout your bs. smh.

 
CITYBOY 2018-10-01 10:37:54 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Hola...Slipster..I have no issues with a foreigner getting the job..look around thats happening also in other countries..
truth is there is no one from the West indies capable of performing this role...not because they are not competent...but because a West Indian will not listen to a West Indian..and they will just skylark...reading the riot act would be very difficult..ah suh it does guh.
adios
CB

 
natty_forever 2018-10-01 10:39:02 

Long time Natty saying to run the Law out a town, and give the deputy a shot!

 
carl0002 2018-10-01 10:45:28 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Many local coaches overlooked.

Pick your medicine-Overlook the local coach or have the players overlook the coach. Which one would you choose.

 
Kay 2018-10-01 10:48:45 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

"Cricket West Indies should ponder the wisdom of wasting money in the hiring of these highly paid foreign coaches, without getting the commensurate returns." Andy Roberts

How do we know this is true if no figure is provided for in this case Law vs the last West Indian coach? I hope Andy is not using his salary from the dinosaur age as a comparator... smile

 
natty_forever 2018-10-01 10:50:57 

In reply to carl0002… I choose to "pick" players that won't overlook the coach!

 
carl0002 2018-10-01 10:58:16 

In reply to natty_forever
Man that's a convenient position for you to take now since its completely impossible to re-visit such a position. But you might soon get an opportunity to test that philosophy.

 
natty_forever 2018-10-01 11:10:09 

In reply to carl0002… weak administration, allows the players to rule.

 
POINT 2018-10-01 11:19:42 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Look I am on record in this Forum continuously stating what you have stated here .

THE STARK TRUTH REGARDING CRICKET IN

THE REGION IS THAT SINCE THE GENESIS

OF THE WICBC/CWI AS THE GOVERNING

ENTITY FOR CRICKET IN THE REGION

THOSE IN THE GOVERNANCE OF WEST

INDIES HAVE BLUNTLY REFUSE TO

CHANGE ITS STRUCTURE & ITS MODUS

OPERANDI .

This is despite bamboozling the
General Public by occasionally
appointing several Reports which
they then swiftly Ignore .

They have done this due to their
many CHARLATANS IN THE MEDIA , who
bluntly refuse to criticize those
in the governance of West Indies
Cricket .

CRITICISM MUST ALSO BE LEVELED TO

THOSE GOVERNMENTS IN THE REGION

WHO HAVE ALLIED THEMSELVES WITH

THE WORST INTERNATIONAL CRICKET

BOARD IN THE COMMONWEALTH WHOSE

ACRONYM IS THE WICBC/CWI .

Insanity is generally described as
doing the same thing over & over
with the Hope & Expectation of
getting a Different Outcome .

Obviously then One has to conclude
that those in the governance of Cricket in the Region are possibly
not only Insane , but are unaware of the fact that they are Insane .

It is possible that this is due to
the fact that their Sycophants are
afraid to inform them that :

THEY ARE THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM

REGARDING NOT ONLY WEST INDIES

CRICKET ; BUT ALSO THE

COMPETITIVENESS OF OUR PLAYERS IN

THE INTERNATIONAL CRICKET ARENA .

 
carl0002 2018-10-01 11:22:33 

In reply to natty_forever

weak administration, allows the players to rule.

I am glad you have the luxury of changing whatever leg you can stand on to suit any position you take. smh

 
natty_forever 2018-10-01 11:26:54 

In reply to carl0002… always was my stance! Remember this analogy: The players are the children, the administrators parents, so if the parent allows the child to be spoilt, rude and does not follow rules, who should be blamed?

 
POINT 2018-10-01 12:25:50 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

I find it very interesting that most
people who claim to be Sports Journalists in the Region ; relish
taking their Orders from the Worst
International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth , aka the WICBC/CWI.

ACTUALLY THERE IS ONLY ONE ORDER

DO NOT CRITICIZE THE WICBC/CWI .

ANY OTHER CRITICISM IS FAIR GAME .

The problem with this is the fact
that it is the WICBC/CWI that is at
the very Heart of the regarding
Cricket in the Region .

UNLESS THIS IS SERIOUSLY ADDRESSED

CRICKET IN THE REGION IS GOING TO

GET WORSE UNTIL OR UNLESS THERE ARE

SERIOUS STRUCTURAL CHANGES IN THE

ADMINISTRATION OF CRICKET IN THE

REGION .

Since its formation in 1928 the
Worst International Cricket Board
in the Commonwealth has not yet
come to the Realization , that It
is the Problem ; and therefore cannot honestly be the Solution
since it has refused to willingly
undertake serious Structural Changes .

 
carl0002 2018-10-01 12:46:03 

In reply to natty_forever
I am sure you have another anology that says you cant treat big men like little children. Again you just change the leg you standing to suit the position.

 
nick2020 2018-10-01 14:47:33 

In reply to natty_forever

Fascinating though that we have had so many coaching failures.

 
DIEHARD 2018-10-01 16:30:59 

In reply to carl0002

They are not mutually exclusive positions.

Respect begets respect, treat the professional like a professional, and when he does not act like a professional, then he's replaced.

It's about open clear honest respectful communication, not micromanagement

 
tc1 2018-10-01 16:39:33 

'The narrative" originally

 
carl0002 2018-10-01 16:50:40 

In reply to DIEHARD
I am not sure what you are getting at here. Please be a bit more specific so I can respond. Thanks

 
DIEHARD 2018-10-01 20:57:23 

In reply to carl0002

Holding them accountable and treating them like schoolchildren are not the same thing

For e.g.,

U don't tell Shiv how to bat, that's micromanagement, u back him when he goes out to the crease, to do what he's always done, but he understands that he has a certain amount of training sessions he must turn up for, for e.g., and failure to turn up to the required amount leads to losing his space on the team.. accountability

 
POINT 2018-10-01 21:45:06 

In reply to Slipfeeler


Evidently YOU must be Rip Van Winkle's
son ; because I have been stating what
You have stated for many years in this
Forum .

WELL AS THE ADAGE STATES :

" BETTER LATE THAN NEVER ".

Those in the governance fail to realize this freaking fact :

THEY ARE THE PROBLEM REGARDING OUR

PLAYERS NON COMPETITIVENESS IN THE

LONGER FORMATS OF THE GAME .

The Stark truth is that the Standard
of Cricket in the Region is definitely below what is required to
be fully competitive in the International Cricket Arena .

THOSE IN THE GOVERNANCE OF CRICKET

FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THE CARDINAL RULE

P6 ; WHICH IS THIS ACRONYM .

" PROPER PREPARATION PREVENTS

PISS POOR PERFORMANCES ".

What is truly sad is that the People
in the governance of West Indies Cricket have utterly failed to realize the fact that the Standard of Cricket in the Region is Piss Poor ; and there seems to be absolutely no acknowledgement not only regarding this fact ; but any attempt to raise the standard of
Cricket in the Region .

Worse yet , those in the Region who
claim to be Sports Journalists refuse to utter nary a word of Criticism regarding the WICBC/CWI
FAILURES to seriously address this
very serious and important Problem .

 
JoeGrine 2018-10-02 03:22:40 

Why is there even a debate whether a Windies cricket captain is a success when his record of guiding the team in 15 Test matches shows him winning six, losing seven, and drawing two, with an ordinary 40 per cent win ratio, and a 46 per cent loss ratio? The Windies are also still ranked an embarrassing number eight of 10 Test-playing nations, only above Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Yet, Holder's name is being mentioned in the same sentence as success, showing the desperate depths to which our standards have fallen.

 
doosra 2018-10-02 06:53:43 

same ppl who dis faren coaches applauding gibson/rsa, jimmy/kent, simmons/afghanistan, cetera