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Leewards Hurricanes vs Barbados Pride R4D.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-06 17:17:35 

Hurricanes won the toss and elected to bat. 148/6 Keacy Carty 64* Doram 7*

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-06 17:18:03 

BARBADOS PRIDE
ANTHONY ALLEYNE ,SHAYNE MOSELEY ,JONATHAN CARTER ,JUSTIN GREAVES ,SHAMARH BROOKS *,KEON HARDING ,AARON JONES ,TEVYN WALCOTT +,HAYDEN WALSH JR ,MIGUEL CUMMINS ,CHEMAR HOLDER


LEEWARDS HURRICANES
MONTCIN HODGE , KEACY CARTY , DANIEL DORAM , AKEEM SAUNDERS , DEVON THOMAS *+, TERANCE WARDE , DAMION JACOBS , JEREMIAH LOUIS , SHELDON COTTRELL , ALZARRI JOSEPH , RAJENDRA CHANDRIKA

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-06 17:21:05 

Hodge 1, Chandrika 4 Thomas 10, Saunders 12, Warde 19, Jacobs 8

Cummins 12 overs 1/30
Harding 11.3 2 /22
Walsh Jr 13 overs 3/56
Holder 13 overs 0/29

 
openning 2018-12-06 17:55:11 

In reply to voiceofreason

Where is the big man?

 
navindesigns 2018-12-06 18:32:05 

Chandrika moved to Anguilla?

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-06 18:56:51 

In reply to openning

Don't know where Cornwall is.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-06 18:57:09 

In reply to navindesigns

Franchise Cricket. 2 Yardies and a Muddie.

 
navindesigns 2018-12-06 19:01:03 

In reply to voiceofreason

Leewards couldn’t find a better foreign player?

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-06 19:05:48 

In reply to navindesigns

Guess we got to work with him.

211/7

Carty 93*
Louis 17*

Good batting down the order.

 
openning 2018-12-06 19:11:16 

I cannot understand how one of the U19 performers, cannot make the final X1?
Justin Greaves has not bowl a ball all season, yet he is playing ahead of Shamar Springer, this has to be a buddy system.

 
imusic 2018-12-06 19:51:41 

In reply to openning

Justin Greaves has not bowl a ball all season, yet he is playing ahead of Shamar Springer, this has to be a buddy system.

Steupes. You only like Shamar Springer because he have a dance move

Springer cyah tie Justin Greaves boots bruh cool

 
openning 2018-12-06 19:56:09 

In reply to imusic

Steupes. You only like Shamar Springer because he have a dance move

The ton in the U19. One of the top performers last Regional 50 overs competition, one of the stars in B team Canadian edition.
I like Justin, but his back should be heal, before selection.
The BCA should not mess with a future star

 
mkcharles 2018-12-06 21:01:21 

In reply to imusic

And yet Greaves has never outperformed Stoute so what’s the point? It absolutely appalling that he hasn’t bowled. It’s foolishness like this why these kids can’t be any better.

 
openning 2018-12-06 21:21:47 

In reply to mkcharles

Kevin Stoute has been around since 2007, his regional average don't merit is nothing to speak about, time to away from guys like Bishop and the others south of thirty.
The only reason I would not play Justin, is his back, but he should be selected if fit.
Look at Kevin stats, now tell us why he should be selected at 33 years, for any regional team?
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analyst-kid 2018-12-06 21:45:01 

In reply to openning

The stats for Stoute suggests a very good FC medium pacer but an ordinary bat.

Greaves ave 40 last FC season with the bat but he was out of form in the Super 50 and then injured.

Springer is a very good List A bowler it seems but he has to be given a full run to show his batting and bowling prowess in FC cricket.

Springer could very well be the next big WI superstar but Pride selection team has no room for him in a current eleven.

 
openning 2018-12-06 21:57:15 

In reply to analyst-kid
Bro, I am not going to bat for any cricketer, who has been on the seen for over 10 years, with the average of Kevin Stoute.
He had the opportunity to be a starter on the Barbados team, he did not performed to be that type player.
Primus, Greaves, Springer are the players to be given the opportunity.
BTW, if Kevin had an Elite season like the one Devon Smith had a year ago, I could support his selection, but what has he done better do be selected?

 
mikesiva 2018-12-07 04:12:54 

In reply to voiceofreason

This has got so little coverage that not even cricinfo seems to be aware that this has started!
razz

 
mkcharles 2018-12-07 08:50:47 

In reply to analyst-kid

Listen, I have a lot a time for Springer because I know the lad. The only point I'm making is that if the lad Greaves is an all-rounder he has to play as such. Does he make this team solely as a batsman because of one good season with the bat? My answer is no.

What has he done that Primus for example has not done? What, because he is fmr. WIU19 and WI B? Brand name? I have no issues with moving past Stoute but at the end of the day Stoute puts up better numbers in all types of cricket season after season and if these youngsters want to get a play they all have to earn it by putting up BETTER numbers.

By way of example, one of the team picks hasn't even scored a domestic ton but we keep talking about his potential, maturity and leadership qualities? Really? Does he merit a play on performance? If Greaves is not fit to bowl then he sits. The end.

 
seaegg99 2018-12-07 11:05:37 

In reply to mkcharles

Both Springer and Greaves seems to be better bats than many who get plys for BIM. Cannot continue to keep the youths sitting behind middle of the road players. Springer have shown his worth coming through the ranks and shoule be played and bat high in the lineup. They are focussed on the stupid pigeon hole strategy. His batting is being wasted. Kid needs more games and more opportunities at the top of the lineup. Or let him go play for someone else not sit on the bench.

 
openning 2018-12-07 11:33:35 

In reply to seaegg99

Add me to your choir, when singing about Shamar Springer.

This youngster should not be sitting on any cricket bench, so unfair.

 
imusic 2018-12-07 11:47:49 

In reply to openning

Given how you make a 180 on Hype, and to a lesser extent Greaves, I fear for Springer lol

 
tc1 2018-12-07 11:59:34 

are you guys watching cricket in Bim, or just mouthing off

 
seaegg99 2018-12-07 12:08:26 

In reply to openning

Actully I think both should be playing. Jones have been there for a few years and havn't done much of note. Problem is these selectors lable the players for whatever reason. Both are pretty good with the bat but will be pitted against each other for an allrounder position only. Very shortsighted thinking. Jones used to be leg break bowler I guess like Brooks he is giving that up. Springer though is a talent that needs as many games he can get to work on his game.

 
openning 2018-12-07 12:23:27 

In reply to imusic
Bro, the last couple years, Greaves game has really improve.
He is the leading batsman in the BCA Elite competition, this season.
As far as Kraigg's batting is concern, I started posting about it from the NZ series, you either score runs , take wickets or get off the Potty.

 
openning 2018-12-07 12:30:47 

In reply to tc1

are you guys watching cricket in Bim, or just mouthing off

How many people watch or follow local cricket in Barbados?
Three places I follow Bim's cricket religiously, Total cricket score, bcacricket.org and VOB (CBC when it was broadcasting weekend games)
I just watched live video of the U19 final.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-07 15:02:38 

Alleyne 28 in 112 balls? Is why they beat so slow? What happen to singles?

 
mkcharles 2018-12-07 15:13:59 

In reply to openning

Well I not only watch it but have been part of a junior program so I have see all of these guys for more than a decade. I see them in nets at Kensington, in the trial matches, at club practice and on weekends every weekend. The youngsters have to step up.

Primus age 23 has played 14FC averages 24 with bat and 26 with ball. Justin Greaves is 24 has played 20FC averages 31 and 26. Stoute averages 28 and 22 after 68 FC. We are really splitting hairs and the ones to play has to be the one putting up the best numbers at any given time in batting and bowling.

These are all marginal players and West Indies Cricket is no longer good enough or deep enough to play potential without an end product. We simply have to start from every level up and only reward performance. Springer who I have a lot of time for with all his ability has never stamped his authority even on local club cricket far less at List A or FC cricket.

He must play even more parochial cricket and kick down the door and make his selection a non-issue. These kids spend too much time in cotton wool waiting to be picked instead of playing and learning their craft. That’s why so many are undercooked when they do get a chance.

 
openning 2018-12-07 15:30:51 

In reply to mkcharles

Stoute averages 28 and 22 after 68 FC. We are really splitting hairs

Bro, Kevin Stoute has been around since 2007, that's 11 years and he is 33 years old.
If he had established himself as a starter, I can see the argument, but base solely on his stats and age, time to move forward.
BTW, Was Springer not injured in 2017/18?

Well I not only watch it but have been part of a junior program so I have see all of these guys for more than a decade. I see them in nets at Kensington, in the trial matches, at club practice and on weekends every weekend. The youngsters have to step up.

I had my concern for Barbados cricket, after watching Roland Holder, wicketkeeping in a 1st Division match for Empire, and Dwayne Smith and Ryan Hinds batting in a regional match.

If you consider we have not produced an International batsman since Dessie, something is wrong with the development of our players.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-07 18:35:22 

Leewards mek 252 in 72 overs Barbados 140/4 in 79 overs.....why they batting so slow? Makes no sense!

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-07 18:36:46 

Alleyne 36 in 183 balls...WTH

 
mkcharles 2018-12-07 18:46:09 

In reply to openning

It’s not only a Barbados thing. Following Dessie and Macko the Caribbean has debut only a Dujon, Richardson, Bishop (pre-injury), Ambrose, Walsh, Lara, Chandrapaul and Gayle and very few others who have consistently demonstrated a level to play at the highest level.

While we rightly lament the performance of the current installment of the WICB, structurally we have deep problems starting from how we prepare and produce players from the juniors and it is a 30 year old problem that has existed while we bury our head in the sands.

The legends have not been allowed to pass on their skills but where are the skilled coaches in the Caribbean that we are so desperately demanding? Are they are at every level or are they only accessible to the so called elite players?

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-07 20:09:33 

Alzharri Joseph 18 overs 2/19.

197/6 after 100 Overs??? WTF!

 
mikesiva 2018-12-08 05:40:24 

In reply to voiceofreason

Aside from a handful of performances, the batting has been disappointing so far in the first two days of the PCL....

Carty 114
Carter 63

Not much else in this match to date.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-08 14:45:51 

ALL that slow batting and still four runs short....Barbados batting pissy...barely awaiting the return of Dowrich ...not even Kraigg scores so slowly at this level!

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-08 14:48:04 

In fact if you ask me...they all bat that way cause them know Kraigg Dowrich and Warrican has to return next week.

 
seaegg99 2018-12-08 14:51:49 

Stupid not to play Springer. One of the top 5 bats in U19 WC cant make Bim second team. Such shortsightedness and piss poor management

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-08 14:53:04 

In reply to openning

No way shape and form that Springer or Primus bat as slow and negative as this.

The allrounders are better batsmen than the specialist bats!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-08 14:56:26 

In reply to mikesiva

Early days yet. Let us give them at least 2-3 rounds to catch their stride.

Chandrika gone for 0 to Cummins. Leewards 1/1

 
openning 2018-12-08 15:06:37 

In reply to analyst-kid
I had a look at Aaron Jones stats yesterday, have a look below
Aaron Jones batting stats

His name is not listed here either.
Leading BCA Elite division Championship Averages - After Series 7

 
robbo 2018-12-08 15:07:15 

In reply to mkcharles

Spot on Mk

That list of high quality players of the last 30 years or so is painfully short. It truly has been a problem for the past 3 decades and you have to wonder if things are too far gone for the It to be possible to produce even a respectable team.

 
seaegg99 2018-12-08 15:59:52 

In reply to analyst-kid

WE can see that but selectors cannot see that. From watching Springer his batting is better and should be pushed more. Even Primus is a pretty good bat.

 
imusic 2018-12-08 17:20:05 

In reply to analyst-kid

Alleyne 28 in 112 balls? Is why they beat so slow? What happen to singles?

The primacy of Test cricket in full effect

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-08 17:46:53 

In reply to openning

If you argue Aaron Jones is picked based on Super 50 form for CCC then Springer should play too.

 
openning 2018-12-08 17:59:09 

In reply to analyst-kid

If you argue Aaron Jones is picked based on Super 50 form for CCC then Springer should play too.

It would be, on what basis was he selected.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-08 20:32:16 

Good batting Louis and ably supported by Cottrell. Louis 31* Cotterell 6*. 157/9...Lead 161.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-08 20:34:03 

Need 200 plus.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-08 20:47:33 

Aaron Jones seems to be another Reniko Boucher or Sherman Lewis....not much credentials but liked by someone important.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-08 20:50:42 

165/10

170 to win for Barbados Pride. Should be an interesting chase.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-08 21:00:50 

He just got two wickets moving him from specialist status to utility player.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-08 21:01:38 

In reply to voiceofreason

Match could go both ways when u see how slow Pride was batting in the first innings.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-08 21:26:17 

In reply to analyst-kid

Goneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Alzjo gets Alleyne!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 15:51:17 

83/5 gane in the balance. 87 or 5 wickets.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 15:51:55 

Come on Aljo finish this!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 16:06:09 

Oh Lorss! Devon Thomas drops a sitter off Aljo's bowling. WTF!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 16:08:00 

Aljo had already started his celebration run. Greaves gets a life!

 
robbo 2018-12-09 16:11:01 

Joseph has been impressive in this match... good to see

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 16:19:27 

Bpwleeeeeeeeeeed! Louis strikes!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 16:52:19 

Jacobs gets Walsh Jr who was looking dangerous. Good delivery Googly got him ...Devon Thomas pulled off a brilliant stumping!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 16:53:24 

40 runs to win but only 3 wickets left. Walcott holds the key on 29* but will need some support.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 16:53:46 

Keon Harding is the new batsman.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 16:54:09 

Aljo returns...

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 17:05:15 

Goneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ALjoooooooooooooooo! Walcott the key wicket gone!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 17:07:12 

Holder in now. Only Tailenders left.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 17:10:14 

Gone Warde has been really disciplined here and he gets just reward. 9 DOWN!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 17:12:24 

Harding b Warde 0 off 14 balls.

Good delivery. Harding playing for turn that was not there. But well deserved 15.4 overs 3/33.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 17:13:04 

GONE! All out for 135! Leewards winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 17:14:40 

Holder just chips it to midoff into the safe hands of Aljo! Warde gets 4. Great start to the season by the Leewards.

 
openning 2018-12-09 17:18:13 

In reply to voiceofreason

Congrats bro.
Joseph, Ward and Carty looking good.

 
voiceofreason 2018-12-09 17:23:24 

In reply to openning

Thanks Bro. Hopefully Cornwall will be back for the big match vs the Champs.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-09 17:26:58 

Great to see Aljo back in form!

Congrats to the Leewards!

Barbados batting is too brittle.

Moseley,Alleyne,Jones and Greaves right now are going nowhere....either falling cheaply or cant get the ball off the square....which means you are of no use with the bat.

Brathwaite Dowrich, Springer and Warrican to replace all four IMO...let Springer open with Brathwaite.

 
analyst-kid 2018-12-09 17:33:42 

You got players like Searles and Primus who are better and more positive bats than these guys....and where is Kyle Corbin? If he is not playing for any team he certainly should have started based on his experience in front these youngsters!

Corbin is way ahead of these guys! From the Super 50 we saw how brittle the batting was!

 
openning 2018-12-09 18:16:23 

In reply to analyst-kid

You got players like Searles and Primus who are better and more positive bats than these guys....and where is Kyle Corbin? If he is not playing for any team he certainly should have started based on his experience in front these youngsters!

I live far away in the Rockies, Searles and Corbin, should not make anyone Colt team.
Not every cricketer has the ability to perform at the regional or International levels.
The BCA had a product, which was devalue, now they paying for it.