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CWI PRESIDENT LAMENTS PLAYERS' LACK OF COMMITMENT

 
XDFIX 2018-12-07 19:14:28 

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camos 2018-12-07 20:17:49 

In reply to XDFIX

crap!

 
bobby 2018-12-07 20:25:03 

In reply to XDFIX
Crooked Dave is confused. He laments players lack of commitment to the West Indies. But this idiot has forgotten, there is NO West Indies. There is only Crooked Dave's Windies.

 
DIEHARD 2018-12-07 20:34:43 

Why doesn't Dave shut the fuck up

 
sunfish 2018-12-07 20:59:54 

we’ve spent millions of dollars to bring them to where they are at, and we need players to commit to the West Indies,


This is a strong assertion and one that I've cited on many occasions.

Players need to remember that they only got to the world stage because of island/school/CWI resources and therefore owe the region their priority..

However, I do think the current crop in Bangla are committed but, are duncy and not properly coached and that's why they are failing.

 
camos 2018-12-07 21:02:16 

thought the guys there are the committed ones!

 
sgtdjones 2018-12-07 21:32:58 

...Cameron

First flaw, your management techniques stink, Big Ediot !!!

Then, look at the theory that they are only as good as the
Administrators at the top.

Sit dong and look at when you became president,
now look at where we are?

If you are happy with the above, you have 8 votes
go for another Term as President, we should hit
rock bottom by then.

Now, since you are a Failure, why not resign immediately and leave.

No one will miss ya!!!!!



twisted twisted

 
POINT 2018-12-07 23:15:12 

In reply to XDFIX

Allow me to once again in this Forum
state a Freaking Fact , which Most
People in the Caribbean know very well

" FISH NEVER ROTS FROM THE TAIL UP

IT ALWAYS ROT FROM THE HEAD DOWN "

THIS FOLKS IS AKIN TO AN AXIOM .

The solutions to the Problems in West Indies Cricket is right in front of Everyone in the Region . It
looms so large that absolutely no One in the Region can truthfully state that they are oblivious to US.

BETWEEN 2000 TO 2005 I WAS LIVING IN

THE REGION , THE WICBC DECIDED TO

HAVE IN THE REGION COACHES .

I was of the opinion that , that was
a Good Idea . Unfortunately this
program did not last long .

Then there was the Cricket Academy in Grenada , that also was shut down . Then there was the Cricket in Academy in Barbados , that after a time was shutdown .

I recall that Groundsmen vied to prepare the best Cricket Ground in the Region that too was short lived .
BTW , when I was living in the Region a fact that has seemingly escape most people is this :

ALL THE TOURNAMENTS IN THE REGION

HAD SPONSORS . SOME IF NOT ALL OF

THEM LEFT .

Now because there are really no credible Sports Journalists in the Region , the Charlatans in the Region who claim to be Sports Journalists , never ever enquired
from those Sponsors Why they decided
to stop being Sponsors .

 
Pacy 2018-12-07 23:31:04 

In reply to sunfish

Players need to remember that they only got to the world stage because of island/school/CWI resources and therefore owe the region their priority..


Meaning I want to push the Onus on the players

However, I do think the current crop in Bangla are committed but, are duncy and not properly coached and that's why they are failing.


Since i was forefront in running the players out of the game in the name of committed and loyal players I cannot call them not committed now...

Funny to see that some think CWI is doing charity to the players by spending millions on them... Unfortunately the administrators do not understand that they are there to build the game and the players and not a Single $ they spend is earned by them.

 
POINT 2018-12-07 23:56:32 

Now I cite the above to illustrate
the Total Incompetence of the WICBC &
the Regional Cricket Boards .

Sadly the Many Faux Sports in the Region whether they like it or not have become the Serfs of the Worst
International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth .

It is their Timidity to challenge &
be critical of the WICBC & the Regional Boards that has given the
WICBC the Green Light to be continuously being Incompetent .

THE SOLUTIONS TO ILLS OF WEST INDIES

CRICKET ARE NOT UNSURMOUNTABLE , BUT

THEY REQUIRE THAT THE GOVERNMENTS IN

THE REGION SUMMON UP THEIR

TESTICULAR FORTITUDE, FULL IMMERSE

THEMSELVES INTO SOLVING CRICKET IN

THE REGION .

The stark fact that has seemingly escaped most People in the Region is
the stark fact that West Indies Cricket has seriously Regressed .

Absolutely no One in the Region can
seriously challenge this Freaking Fact . Yet despite the obvious :

THE WICBC, AKA THE WORST

INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD IN THE

COMMONWEALTH WAS FOUNDED IN 1928 ,

SADLY IT HAS BLUNTLY REFUSED TO

CHANGE IS STRUCTURE ; DESPITE THE

FACT THAT EVERY FEW YEARS IT

COMMISSION REPORTS , FOR WINDOW

DRESSING .


In most Entities , Change normally
starts from the Top but not the
Emperors in the WICBC . Apparently
They have restructured the well known axiom to now mean :

" FISH ALWAYS ROTS FROM THE TAIL UP

NOT FROM THE HEAD DOWN " .

Now I cite this so that hopefully
the People in this Forum would understand that if WE genuinely want
Cricket to improve Immediate Focus
must of necessity focus on the Persons on the various Cricket Boards in the Region especially the WICBC First .

Secondly , there must be strenuous
efforts to improve the standard of
Cricket in the Region at ALL Levels.

In the Region WE need Sports
Journalists , with the Testicular
Fortitude to be Critical of those in the governance of Cricket in the Region . For many years now they have aided & abetted the Worst International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth .

WITTINLY OR UNWITTINGLY THEY HAVE

COLLUDED WITH THOSE IN THE

GOVERNANCE OF WEST INDIES CRICKET .

IT IS THIS UNHOLY ALLIANCE THAT IS

AT THE ROOT OF MOST OF ALL THE

PROBLEMS IN WEST INDIES CRICKET .

 
imusic 2018-12-08 00:05:28 

In reply to camos

thought the guys there are the committed ones

Exactly right. Shocking to see this indictment of the current players from Cameron

 
Jumpstart 2018-12-08 00:23:59 

Dave go ahead and feel limiting players ability to earn a living could hold up in court. Players can become rich very quickly now. That’s a fact and that is a legitimate expectation of young talented cricketers now

 
Pacy 2018-12-08 03:47:44 

“It’s not an outcry across the region because the West Indies is not one country. If this were South Africa, we would not allow our players to play other events when West Indies is playing cricket.”


I am surprised he is still cribbing about this...

To my knowledge all the players who are in demand in Global T20s are already discarded. Currently we have Bravo, Pollard, Pooran and co playing some of the T20s. The ODI and Test team has nothing to do with any of the players for years now. I dont understand why the people who do the interviews ask these simple questions.

The statement also might be an indicator for the O.Thomas, Hety, Pooran, Powell etc that they are due to be tagged Prima Donnas since they are slowing emerging as the next wave of promising T20 Players. May be we are in for another bunch being "Branded" and "banished" from WI cricket to cover up the incompetence of the administrators.

 
Dukes 2018-12-08 04:35:51 

In reply to sunfish

LOYALTY AND COMMITTMENT IS A 2 WAY STREET

Cameron is a FRAUD. He is now talking about the public holding the players accountable but when the CWI are called to account he says they are a private organization.He ignores the public in terms of accountability to them but is now trying to solicit their help.
I would only say to him in the Guyanese vernacular.DAVE, KERRY YUH SKUNT

evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil

 
bobby 2018-12-08 05:59:49 

In reply to Dukes
I have said it many times .... Crooked Dave should be in jail.

 
InHindsight 2018-12-08 07:48:14 

In reply to XDFIX

I am not a big fan of Dave Cameron but I have no issues with what he said. In fact l think he is mostly right.

The players are part of the problem. Apparently there is a fitness issue. Some are trying to fill their pockets at the expense of us the fans.

But does the board have the moral authority to hold them accountabe???

In the end we ALL lose.

 
InHindsight 2018-12-08 07:49:20 

In reply to Dukes

Bro you make sense as usual.

 
buds 2018-12-08 09:06:07 

He is correct..Some of these blasted players are not committed, period. And for the reason he stated.

 
Pacy 2018-12-08 09:18:02 

In reply to buds

Drop them and select the committed and educated players like CWI has been trying to since 2010.

Afterall we dont even compete with Minnows anymore so nothing can change.

 
grugru 2018-12-08 09:19:51 

In reply to buds

you appear to know more than most about this lack of commitment by the players
Can you list the names of the players on the current team that you know for sure are not committed?

 
jaba 2018-12-08 09:28:52 

We can mourn, groan, and bitch all we want but unless we understand and acknowledge that our current cricket woes are multifaceted and require strategic approaches we ain't going anywhere quickly. CWI should start with ensuring our players have the technical ability (quality) to enable consistent good performances on the world stage and it is important to put in place whatever structure(s) are needed to achieve this. CWI, please start with the realization that the soldiers we put out in the field to represent us are just not good enough.

 
sgtdjones 2018-12-08 09:29:02 

In reply to sunfish

we’ve spent millions of dollars to bring them to where they are at, and we need players to commit to the West Indies,


This is a strong assertion and one that I've cited on many occasions.

Players need to remember that they only got to the world stage because of island/school/CWI resources and therefore owe the region their priority..




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Please post facts ya writing crap. The Trini players have two private HPC's in Trinidad and they go there. They use money earned playing overseas in various leagues.

 
buds 2018-12-08 10:35:44 

In reply to grugru

I will give you one name that is/was committed to WI cricket and he showed it day in and day out!! Shiv Chanderpaul..

 
camos 2018-12-08 11:24:07 

If the guy who is suppose to find solutions don't know what the problems are ,what are the prospect of early resolution?

 
grugru 2018-12-08 13:17:38 

In reply to buds

LOL, OK
But the current team- who is not committed?

 
hubert 2018-12-08 15:12:44 

In reply to Dukes
Thanks for your post.My sentiments exactly; although I think 'fraud' is too kind for this
individual.

 
vsingh 2018-12-08 16:49:27 

Alot of people have different opinions on this issue. I personally think the players and the board at fault here and if you don't agree I have a question. What are your thoughts about Australian players withdrawing from IPL 2019 due to AUS commitments?? I don't see their players making a fuss about putting food on table.

 
imusic 2018-12-08 17:10:02 

In reply to vsingh

What are your thoughts about Australian players withdrawing from IPL 2019 due to AUS commitments?? I don't see their players making a fuss about putting food on table.

What are your thoughts on remuneration Aussie players receive from their board for representing Australia?

While you’re at it, please share your thoughts on the Aussie board cutting their players remuneration 75% to allegedly fund Australian FC cricket

Appreciate your feedback

 
camos 2018-12-08 19:03:14 

In reply to vsingh

the average Aussie makes more on contract than in IPL so the choice for them is straightforward.

 
sgtdjones 2018-12-08 19:21:59 

In reply to vsingh

Below is the list of all the contracted players, their yearly salaries and match fee for appearing in every Test, ODI or T20 match. Michael Clark has since been retired and Steven Smith earns 25% more retainer fee as a “captain bonus”

Team & Individual Performance Related Bonuses: Apart from yearly retainer salaries and per match based fees, Australian cricket also get massive performance related bonuses. Every Australian in the ODI Squad which won the 2015 cricket world cup got AU$365,000 bonus.

They can earn another AU350,000 for winning the twenty20 world cup in 2016. Apart from that there are individual performance related bonuses such as scoring a hundred or taking 5 wickets in an innings or ODI match can get double the match fee.


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NO CWI players come close to such remuneration.

 
anandgb 2018-12-08 22:44:44 

In reply to Dukes

lol lol

 
POINT 2018-12-08 23:59:12 

ARE WE TO BELIEVE THAT THE WORST

INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD IN THE

COMMONWEALTH AKA THE WICBC IS FULLY

COMMITTED TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY

TO MAKE OUR PLAYERS FULLY COMPETITIVE

IN THE INTERNATIONAL CRICKET ARENA ?



TO MY KNOWLEDGE THIS AINT THE 1ST.

OF APRIL , HOWEVER SOME PEOPLE IN

THIS FORUM SEEM TO THINK THAT IS THE

CASE .

 
vsingh 2018-12-09 08:48:48 

Can you really compare Australian economy to the Caribbean? Look at the population in Australia and compare it to WI. I'm sure they get a large piece of pie from ICC compared to WI. Yes WI drop their salary by 75%. Did I say it was the players fault only?? However when they did that it's because they wanted to share the money between 75 or hhow much players instead of 15.