"He argued that the teams current struggles are due to the players lack of commitment to the West Indies.
The Windies lost in all three formats to India recently as well as an away test series to Bangladesh for the first time in their history."
Cameron also posited the view that the problem extends beyond the field of play.
We are challenged as a people as everybody wants the game to be over in three hours and we all want to get rich very, very quickly.
He noted that at an upcoming board meeting serious decision around Windies cricket policy would have to be made.
Part of our problem is that we have players who are going in and out of the system. They are not fit enough; weve spent millions of dollars to bring them to where they are at, and we need players to commit to the West Indies, said Cameron.
He further argued that the public should also hold players accountable for their lack of commitment."
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Cameron hints at coming cricket policy changes
I agree that players should be accountable for lack of commitment and poor performances but similarly, CWI should be accountable to the various regional boards and WI cricket fans.
In reply to Slipfeeler
Look it is crystal clear that the Regional Cricket Boards are as bad or even worse than the Worst International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth , aka the WICBC .
WHEN AN ENTITY FORMED IN 1928 ,
BLUNTLY REFUSES TO CHANGE ITS
STRUCTURE AFTER 90 FREAKING YEARS ,
AND COMMISSIONING VARIOUS REPORTS ;
AND THEN IGNORES THE FINDINGS
OF THOSE REPORTS .
THIS SPEAKS VOLUMES REGARDING THE
STEWARDSHIP OF THOSE IN THE WICBC
OVER THESE 90 FREAKING YEARS .
The Questions that must be asked of those in the WICBC over these 90 years are these , never mind that some are dead .
AT THE ZENITH OF WEST INDIES CRICKET
DID THE PEOPLE IN THE WICBC SECURE
FINANCIAL SPONSORS TO MAINTAIN THE
COMPETITIVENESS OF OUR PLAYERS ?????
WHAT MEASURES WERE PUT IN PLACE TO
ENSURE THAT OUR PLAYERS WERE ALWAYS
FULLY COMPETITIVE IN THE
INTERNATIONAL CRICKET ARENA ?????
WHAT ACTIVE MEASURES DID THE WICBC
TAKE TO ENSURE THAT OUR PLAYERS
REMAINED FULLY COMPETITIVE IN THE
INTERNATIONAL CRICKET ARENA WHEN THE
INTERNATIONAL TOUR SCHEDULE WAS
CHANGED ?????
WHY WAS THE ACADEMY IN GRENADA
CLOSED ?????
WHY WAS THE ACADEMY IN BARBADOS
CLOSED ?????
WHY IS IT THAT THE WICBC BLUNTLY
REFUSES TO HIRE FORMER GREAT
REGIONAL PLAYERS ?????
THIS IS VERY ODD WHEN ONE CONSIDERS
THE FACT THAT THAT IT WAS OUR FORMER
GREAT PLAYERS WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE
FOR HARNESSING & HONING THE SKILLS
OF OUR PLAYERS IN THE SHORTEST
VERSION OF THE GAME .
In reply to POINT
There is no much confusion with WI cricket with so much distractions, while we are talking the team is failing and falling lower. No one seems to know the real way forward.
They want to stop issuing NOCs for foreign T20 leagues
In reply to Narper
I think that they should instead work out a formidable way out for players to play T20 yet remain committed to WI duties, similar like that of other cricketing nations. For its becoming more apparent that we need experienced players but it's impossible for them to play consistently motivated with quality performances if they feel they are been undermined by CWI.
Time for open contracts with every player provide CWI with their intended cricket schedules in advance to match with WI scheduled matches, so to work out an amicable agreement and working relationship. This will avoid any feeling of suspicion between both CWI and players. This is the role that WIPA should have been playing in order to work out such amicable work contracts.
In reply to Slipfeeler
When will it dawn on you that the Regional Boards are CWI?
In reply to Slipfeeler
Name a few countries that have that agreement?
We saw South Africa players, leaving the CPL for an award ceremony, players from other top countries are available to represent their country.
We have a problem with the top players, playing in every T20 league tournament.
In reply to openning
The palyers are not happy with their employer and have no guarantee of employment. The team is picked based on who likes who and where you are from and not on talent or performance. So the players look out for themselves. Full stop. Crooked Dave is calling for players acccountability but he and his brigands have none. What crooked Dave and his band of bandits have done is treason and they should be in jail.
In reply to openning
India have none
In reply to Slipfeeler
THE REAL WAY FOWARD IS TO HAVE BETTER PLAYERS PERIOD
THE PLAYERS ARE 100 PERCENT RESPONSIBLE FOR US BELONGING AT
THE BOTTOM OF THE DUNG HEAP
In reply to bobby
Dude, be real.
These guys have been ignoring selection, prior to Cameron presidency.
Bravo, told us, who he is committed to, so to talk about selection policy, is not debating the issue.
In reply to bobby
Having worked for a fortune 100 company in New York in the past, I've concluded that very few employees world wide are happy with their employers.
Employees are always disgruntled even when they are making lots of money. Some are justified but the rest are chronic complainers.
Keep in mind that the current West Indian contracted players, make more money than most professional and highly educated folk in the Caribbean.
And, they can't even beat Bangladesh with all that money in their pocket. Perhaps when they go out to bat they think more about the BMW than the ball out of the hand.
Bowled! "He ran down the wicket!" Perhaps heading to the Wagon?
I'm proposing that the WI players' pay should be based on performance. Like most other institutions.
This means the K Braithwaite, Hope, Chase and Powell owe the WICB money.
Bingo!
In reply to sunfish
How wull you judge the performance of Crooked
Dave and his brigands? And what about the selectors?
In reply to Slipfeeler... correction...no one in charge...
In reply to sunfish
I am tending towards concurring with you that based in the consistent failures of the WI team, it might be now time to pay players based upon performance, especially those who are guaranteed selection on the test team. This might be the only way to motivate them to perform consistently.
In reply to Slipfeeler
Players should be held accountable for their fitness for the most part.
In reply to Slipfeeler
ALL if not most of the concerns those
in the WICBC currently have is going
to be about SELF PRESERVATION .
WHY IS IT THAT IN ITS 90 YEARS OLD
STRUCTURE & HISTORY THE WICBC HAS
BLUNTLY REFUSED TO CHANGE , IN GOOD
TIMES & BAD TIMES .
International Cricket is not inertia
some years ago the New Zealand Cricket Board realized that it was
failing Cricket in New Zealand ; its
Team was losing matches .
THE NEW ZEALAND CRICKET DECIDED TO
CHANGE ITS MODUS OPERANDI , AND THEN
ITS PLAYERS STARTED BEING
COMPETITIVE AGAIN .
Our problem is that the Current
MIMIC MEN IN THE GOVERNANCE OF WEST
INDIES CRICKET RELISH APING THOSE
WHO STARTED THE WICBC 90 YEARS AGO .
This is manifested in their aloof
and disdain that they have towards
our Players . Essentially they believe in a Masters & Serfs Philosophy .
The Players must never have any input or suggestions in matters pertaining to Cricket .
SHUT UP AND PLAY , WE DO NOT NEED
ANY IDEAS OR INPUT FROM YOU .
NOW THIS WAS IN SHARP CONTRAST TO
OUR FORMER GREAT PLAYERS WHO WERE
IN CHARGE OF THE SHORTEST FORMAT OF
THE GAME .
Those former Great Players harnessed
and hone the Skills of Our Players to the point where they won 2 consecutive World Championships in
the shortest version of the game .
WHEN THE WORST INTERNATIONAL CRICKET
BOARD IN THE COMMONWEALTH REGAINED
CONTROL OF THIS FORMAT OF THE GAME ,
THE WICBC FIRED THOSE FORMER
PLAYERS. THIS FOLKS AINT A FIGMENT
OF MY IMAGINATION .
THE RESULTS OF THIS DECISION ARE
SLAPPING US IN OUR FACES EVERY
FREAKING DAY , I HOPE THAT PEOPLE IN
THIS FORUM GET THE GIST OF WHAT I
HAVE STATED HERE ; BECAUSE IT AINT
COMPLICATED .
In reply to Slipfeeler
A very salient question that has not to my knowledge has not been asked and is very Important regarding West Indies Cricket ; and it is this :
WHY WAS THE CRICKET ACADEMY IN
BARBADOS CLOSED ?????
People who run around being critical
of Our Players need to address this
ISSUE .
I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY OF THE FAUX
SPORTS JOURNALISTS IN THE REGION ASK
THIS QUESTION TO THOSE IN THE WORST
INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARD IN THE
COMMONWEALTH , AKA THE WICBC .
Perhaps they have asked , and it has
escaped my notice , so I would like
to know whether that was done by any
Sports Writer or Sports Hosts on Radio or TV .
In reply to jahmekyah
Yes the players are poor, so whose responsibility it is to make them better, but the West Indies Board, first and foremost.
And they've been doing a very lousy job from time immemorial. Look at the people they hire to coach these players.... non entities from far and near who have zero credentials relative to playing
achievements.
Also the Board pays little attention to improving the piss poor facilities ie, the pitches at the various venues that are mostly so low and slow, they kill every chance of developing batsmen and bowlers.
In reply to openning
These guys have been ignoring selection, prior to Cameron presidency.
When?
Wasn't the ICC plan to cap players to three T/20 tournaments per year?
No doubt it will lead to court action if it ever is implemented.
In reply to Slipfeeler
This is too much talk. Get the guys to practice harder - work harder, with longer hours in the nets.
THE WORD I WANT TO HEAR IS STRUCTURE
IT SURE AINT POLICY . STRUCTURE
ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING . POLICY DOES
NOT EMBRACE STRUCTURE .
Once again the Worst International
Cricket Board in the Commonwealth ,
via its President is seeking to Bamboozle the Public in the Region .
Let me remind All & Sundry in this Forum this freaking Fact :
FOR YEARS THE WICBC HAS COMMISSIONED
SEVERAL REPORTS . THOSE IN THE WICBC
CANNOT STATE WHAT CHANGES THEY HAVE
MADE AS A RESULT OF THE REPORTS THEY
COMMISSIONED .
Obviously then this latest utterance
of the President is yet another effort to Bamboozle the People in
the Region .10 to 1 this Policy is
going to be about Our Players ; and
have absolutely nothing to do with
the Structure of West Indies Cricket.
BTW THERE ARE 21 DAYS LEFT IN THE
YEAR ; WHERE THE HELL IS THE WEHBY
REPORT ?????
In reply to Slipfeeler
see note in your original post
In reply to Slipfeeler
Let me help you with a link.
TOUGH TALK: Cricket West Indies president Dave Cameron says the board needs players to commit to West Indies.
The WICBC & its Satellites are a Colossal Jokes . Just Imagine an Entity that is in control of West Indies Cricket , that has bluntly refused to change its 90 years old
Structure :
THIS IS AFTER COMMISSIONING SEVERAL
REPORTS ; AND THEN SUMMARILY
DISCARDED THOSE REPORTS . DESPITE
THIS ITS LOYAL SUPPORTERS IN THE
REGION AND IN THIS FORUM , REMAIN
OBLIVIOUS TO ITS GROSS INCOMPETENCE;
INEPTNESS ; LACK OF VISION ; LACK OF
COUTH ; FILLED WITH SELF IMPORTANCE
; FILLED WITH ANIMOSITY TOWARDS
THEIR EMPLOYEES .
Obviously such an Entity is bound to fail , and WE are witnessing that
right now in West Indies Cricket .
THEY bluntly refuse to do any Self
Examination , as a result THE MIMIC MEN keep Perpetually ending up with
Eggs on their faces .
THEY AND THEIR MANY SERFS IN THE
MEDIA RELISH PLACING ALL THE BLAME
ON THE PLAYERS .
SO WAS IT THE PLAYERS THAT CLOSED
THE CRICKET ACADEMIES IN GRENADA &
BARBADOS ??
WAS IT THE PLAYERS WHO MANDATED A
2 WEEKS CAMP BEFORE EMBARKING ON
INTERNATIONAL TOURS ?????
WAS IT THE PLAYERS FAULT ON A TOUR
TO NEW ZEALAND , A MATCH WAS PLAYED
AND NEW ZEALANDERS HAD TO PLAY FOR
OUR TEAM , BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE
11 PLAYERS ON THE FIELD ????
WHY DID THE PRESIDENT OF THE WICBC ,
WHO WAS IN DUBAI ; REFUSE TO GO TO
INDIA TO SALVAGE THE TOUR ????
DESPITE THE ABOVE THE SERFS OF THE
WICBC IN THE SPORTS MEDIA CONTINUE
TO WORSHIP THOSE IN THE WICBC , AKA
THE WORST INTERNATIONAL CRICKET
BOARD IN THE COMMONWEALTH .
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