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They Framed Charrandass Yet?

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 08:06:41 

They let him escape from the colony without a chance to do a Rodney on him. Shock element.
I guess everyone could see it coming from any Mohandas,Luther or Mohammed. The intellectually challenged or Narcissuses just admiring themselves and their ownpeople and religion, or getting drunk all dayand night.
They have been so blinded by their goal for absolute power that they forgot basic things, like how they got there, who put them in......the people of more than one race, the dis enchanted ones from previous regime, etc.

When you are dealing with crooks watch out for crooked events whilst they refuse to leave after being voted out.
Rumsuckajattan threatened that the police is getting close to a frame.
Bribery is the first thing that comes to mind.
Anybody can deposit money in my bank account. (They better step up big like $4200000000 US.
Me too!! For a few bucks more.
Jeez, I am giving ideas to the dunces.
They might listen and act like they did with the totally illogical liar.

Stay tuned for more As the World Turns in these Days of Our Lives.

Yogi said deja vu all over again. Same shyte, different caste of Burnhamites.

Low Caste, poor cast of characters.
(Caste based on personality, character and deeds).

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 10:07:30 

They say you can take a hog and put it in golden cage but it will still eat shit and go back to wallow in mud.
(That's why some of us don't eat hog).
Burnham had Berkshire pig in his backyard. (step up in class).
I told y'all he was polished and not as dunce or primitive as this set.

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 13:17:13 

Framed!
Security Minister quick to deliver on his promise as he bends over.

 
uton 2018-12-31 13:20:40 

In reply to goofballs


Are you sure you are not blindly supporting Charandass as the entire episode fits a narrative that you endorse vehemently?

Why didn't Chrandass do something before the no-confidence vote, if he was so disturbed by the coalition's actions?

Why not demand that the coalition compensate the sugar workers better prior to the no-confidence vote?
Why did Charandass state that it was the PPP that crippled the sugar estates, which is his major gripe then support the same PPP in the no-confidence vote?

Why were the sugar estates in such perilous states after 20 odd years of exemplary stewardship by the PPP?

I have not heard about any proposals to move Guyana forward all the postings seem to be emotional bleatings void of logic and rationale.



Just two weeks earlier, during his Budget 2019 presentation on December 4, while acknowledging that sugar estates including the Rose Hall estate was closed by the coalition government, Persaud argued that the workers were paid a severance which is “more money than (they) received during their working years.”

Speaking extemporaneously for the most part, the then MP highlighted that some workers used their severance payments to buy cars and renovate their homes, something they could not have done on the weekly salary they were getting while the estate was open.

“We were giving money to a business that did not bring back anything in return,” he said in defence of the closures adding that “it wasn’t the APNU+AFC government that crippled the sugar estate, that was done a long time ago by the PPP.”

“We are trying Sir, to make the people comfortable but many of those workers are still employed by the estate,” he had told the House while challenging opposition parliamentarian Vishwa Mahadeo, who is also from Region Six, to dispute his claims.



“That (continued employment) did not stop us from paying them severance. If you were not employed then fine, but you have the benefit of the severance and the salary you are currently drawing. What is there to complain about?” he asked.

Referencing a neighbour in Canje who allegedly went on television in Berbice to claim he was unable to send his children to school because of the estate closure, Persaud told the House, “Sir, it was about two weeks after the severance was paid and he doesn’t have a child nor an adopted child either.”

At no point during his 20-minute presentation did Persaud indicate dissatisfaction with any government policy. Instead, he argued that government has done much for Region Six.

Projects he highlighted included several capital investments at New Amsterdam Hospital namely the extension of the Maternity ward, the construction of doctors’ quarters, the completion of Phase II of construction of the CT scan room and the rehabilitation of the room used by doctors to rest while on call.

https://www.stabroeknews.com/2018/news/guyana/12/30/before-changing-tune-charrandas-persaud-lustily-sang-govts-praise/

 
steveo 2018-12-31 13:36:20 

In reply to uton

Are you sure you are not blindly supporting Charandass as the entire episode fits a narrative that you endorse vehemently?


If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck

Just a few quacks:

From the unilateral appointment of GECOM commissioner
The rental of the drug bonds
The vast over payment for drugs from a govt picked supplier
Statements of a minister that she will only give jobs to her friends
Death threats to a member of parliament in full view of the public (I am stunned no comments or investigations were provided by the minister of security)

In any event, they are just delaying the inevitable until the 2020 elections, where I expect they will rig the elections wholesale and devolve the state into a police dictatorship

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 13:52:20 

In reply to uton

Are you sure you are not blindly supporting Charandass as the entire episode fits a narrative that you endorse vehemently?


all the postings seem to be emotional bleatings void of logic and rationale.


HAHAHAHAHA!
Actually I am laughing my head off much more so than reading a Naipul novel after seeing these scores of clips that were messaged to me, a non political person.

The truth was revealed and it is so sad one can only laugh at what is unfolding.
The crass, crude, criminal, ghetto like behavior exhibited in parliament: Burnhamite mentality of
"wuk" for her people only, not knowing about, or caring for the culture and religion of almost half the population. threatening to personally kill people. I guess Green trained her?

The chilling realization is that she, as chairman of the PNC, could become the next President as Granger is otherwise indisposed.
Burnham would look like wan lil pickney compared this crude, violently proned peeps.


void of logic and rationale
Don't let people conclude that you are duncier than the cabinet if that is all you could see.
Amen!

 
BeatDball 2018-12-31 14:02:09 

In reply to goofballs That aint polished!

big grin

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 14:10:59 

Ok I retract the last comment.
It is impossible plus Uton is avery bright lad.

Don't let people conclude that you are duncier than the cabinet if that is all you could see.

Add the Attorney General and the liar to that list. Based on observed behaviors and verbalizations.

 
uton 2018-12-31 14:16:23 

In reply to steveo


In any event, they are just delaying the inevitable until the 2020 elections, where I expect they will rig the elections wholesale and devolve the state into a police dictatorship


Again you are being emotional. If elections are not held quite soon then the APNU/AFC coalition will be viewed as illegitimate, most likely the PPP will win the upcoming elections.

 
maj 2018-12-31 14:17:25 

Met Charandass last night at a local bar, he didnt seem a bit worried.
big grin big grin

 
uton 2018-12-31 14:25:09 

In reply to goofballs

Don't let people conclude that you are duncier than the cabinet if that is all you could see.
Amen!


It is quite possible that I am intellectually handicapped or severely unintelligent, anyhow propose a solution for fair and meritorious governance of Guyana instead of bleating about APNU/AFC's failures and ignoring the shyte that the PPP did under Jagdeo and Ramotar.
I acknowledge that the current government has made many inexcusable blunders, I do not envision the current opposition party solving the ills of society as they were totally corrupt and self-serving during their lengthy tenure. We can sit here and pontificate about the glory of one side or the other whilst the average Guyanese national has a much less than desirable existence.

 
anthonyp 2018-12-31 14:50:13 

In reply to goofballs

Check out the link.. They saying the man planned to buy USD 1mil in gold days before the vote.. They even saying they got screenshots of the WhatsApp conversation..

Link Text lol

 
uton 2018-12-31 14:55:19 

In reply to goofballs

Yogi said deja vu all over again. Same shyte, different caste of Burnhamites.

Low Caste, poor cast of characters.


Are you sure that Charandass is not a hypocrite? it seems in the linked video that he is accusing Bharrat Jagdeo"s best friend of profiting handsomely from the PPP's largesse. At 14:30, the sugar estate issue is addressed with blame put squarely on the PPP.

 
steveo 2018-12-31 15:52:38 

In reply to uton

Again you are being emotional. If elections are not held quite soon then the APNU/AFC coalition will be viewed as illegitimate, most likely the PPP will win the upcoming elections.


I do not think predicting future actions based on consistent past behavior is emotional.

I like how you characterize the APNU behaviour as "blunders", like silly mistakes a child would make.

Death threats and bold face nepotism is not "blunders", they are part and parcel of a criminal mindset.

 
Fantom 2018-12-31 16:14:52 

My Guyanese brethrens, please do not be too selective in your recall of your history.

Answer mi dis: Guyana now find oil, government now unstable; who benefits most from this instability and its attendant problems?

 
DirtyDan 2018-12-31 17:41:37 

In reply to uton

Are you sure that Charandass is not a hypocrite
?

whichever way the cookie crumbles, the man did say he and the AFC were YES men supporting the party's direction; did you expect him from day 3 to start pointing out his party's faults in public? Based on his narrative, he had a chance to see the true nature of his coalition, and bussed their bag when it counted

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 17:53:25 

In reply to maj

Met Charandass last night at a local bar, he didnt seem a bit worried.


Did he tell you under which coconut tree he hide the money?
wink

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 18:15:09 

In reply to uton

instead of bleating about APNU/AFC's failures and ignoring the shyte that the PPP did under Jagdeo and Ramotar.
I acknowledge that the current government has made many inexcusable blunders,


Bleating Bhai? Bleating?

An excuse of a person threatened to kill someone right in parliament because he exercised his democratic right to vote his choice? The same person whose manifesto is to hire her own people. The same cabinet that is ignorant of, and does not care for, other culture and religion in Guyana?

Talking about it might be bleating to you.

To me, the whole world needs to know what is going on so we all can intervene so something like what happened in the past does not repeat itself.
History will tell us it happened for couple decades under Burnham. I won't be surprised if these guys stage a coup (on?themselves) suspend the constitution and begin a dictatorship, shoot and kill whoever does not agree or see with them, suppress other races, cultures, religions and employ their own people.
Some will love that.
At least, you got shame enough to fight back and not let this disgrace be bleated about all over the world. God Bless you. There is hope.
Anybody else from your side of the world cares about what transpired except to vilify Mohandass Charrandas?
If some innocent one like me made it a POINT to report what is happening against my kind of people by virtue of religion, culture or race, then I am labelled as racist per cliche.
Then all the African American or Guy American in this back room should similarly be called racist as they (rightfully) bleat about the "racist" attitudes or wrongs that the whites are doing to them.
This mindset has to stop!
If anybody of any race does something so despicable, they should be called out and not be defended with some peoples' screaming loudly by their silence.
To be continued a la POINT smile

 
shivnotout 2018-12-31 18:21:02 

In reply to goofballs

Stay tuned for more As the World Turns in these Days of Our Lives.

Same shyte, different caste of Burnhamites.
lol lol

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 18:31:42 

Can you imagine Burnham, among other things, banned the staple foods of a culture out of spite?

ignoring the shyte that the PPP did under Jagdeo and Ramotar.

I talked about this before. when Paul is doing something bad, cannot make excuse that Peter did the same in the past. Then few years down the road Jill will come with same behaviors and use Paul as precedent.

It must stop now, regardless who done what when.
I did not follow Guyana's politics during those guys era.

I am sure that throughout my bleatings over the years I have never said a positive word about PPP as I don't know and if even if I did, I should not be comparing mango to tamarind.

My forte is basic rights regarding race, religion, culture.
I have also challenged folks to show me an honest politician then I will show them a sucker.
My concern has been the repeated attempt to suppress a culture, encourage hatred and bias and perpetuate that split in our country (of origin). Again call me a racist if you must but somebody in the back room and up front, to the world, has to denounce these people with this type of behavior.
You have, and I respect you for that.
Kids growing up should not have to see Paul's behavior which would be mimicked by the next generation.
Solution?
I have a few ideas apart from taking over Berbice.
razz razz razz

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 18:37:11 

In reply to goofballs

I stand corrected.
I think I almost praised Jagdeo.
I pondered whether he could "outbid" the other side for the speaker.
Just pondered. wink

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 18:40:43 

In reply to anthonyp

The mental kakkarassity of the cabinet, especially the rum sucka, is so limited(probably from alcohol brain syndrome) that the simplest of person can organize that.
It will not go anywhere but to to perpetuate their propaganda.

 
Runs 2018-12-31 18:45:12 

In reply to anthonyp

Nothing illegal about that after all he is a man of considerable means no?
Since when buying gold is illegal? lolActually with the stockmarket performance he was spot on to do such. wink

 
goofballs 2018-12-31 18:47:20 

In reply to Runs

I hear it was 1000 barrels of Gilbaka coming to New York!

Price going down to $2/pound as he floods the market. (We wish). smile

 
Runs 2018-12-31 18:53:51 

In reply to goofballs

lol

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2018-12-31 19:02:14 

In reply to uton

Why didn't Chrandass do something before the no-confidence vote


That would be wasting his one shot with a rubber bullet. Why would he do that.

 
uton 2018-12-31 19:12:50 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

That would be wasting his one shot with a rubber bullet. Why would he do that.



I was under the opinion that Charandass' role was to represent his constituency as best as possible. Why not state that his region was getting screwed with APNU/AFC's policies? I cannot see how his constituents will be better off long-term after this fiasco as Charandass is now the issue, not his constituents.

 
Norm 2018-12-31 20:50:34 

In reply to uton

Charandass concluded that his role, and that of the AFC, was to always vote in favor of the coalition - and not to represent his constituency.

He listed several attempts to represent his constituents, which all came to nought. He also spoke about the AFC's adamant refusal to address political differences with the PNC (APNU).

The AFC's party line was to hang on to power, by keeping the coalition in power. That Karandass's constituency was losing plenty of sugar industry jobs through the actions of the government did not matter to the AFC leadership.

So, Karandass did express dissatisfaction with the government before the no-confidence vote, but his party (AFC) was not interested.

Ironically, had they paid attention they might have noticed that a serious problem was developing. They probably felt that Karandass would simply be expelled if he became a potential threat.

That was exactly what happened right after the no-confidence vote, and Karandass probably anticipated it - and the accompanying thuggery.

 
goofballs 2019-01-01 12:53:30 

Why didn't Chrandass do something before the no-confidence vote, if he was so disturbed by the coalition's actions?

Why not demand that the coalition compensate the sugar workers better prior to the no-confidence vote?


Very naive question, if I may say so. He already addressed it on video.
Have you ever seen a bad, dysfunctional marriage?

If the one partner (usually the narcissistic male in male "dominated" society) does not listen,have little feelings for the other,and doesn't care after repeated attempts, she will go public and declare her independence one day.

Usually when it counts and hurts the most. Probably clean out the coffers or let him "catch" her sleeping with someone else, better yet his enemy!!
That vote was a touche, a classic finesse of Kanhai and Rowe but with effective result worse than the brutal savagery of a Richards and Lloyd combined.
It showed in the BFIs reaction.
smile smile smile smile

Yes, yes, yes!! I am proud of him for calling out this crap of a BFI cabinet and hitting them hard, and will bleat all day long (but I think you know who the bleater is between the two of us).
At least you bleat compared to the deafening silence of the rest of Guyana's pseudo intellectuals here who complain about everything under the sun, except in Guyana.

 
goofballs 2019-01-02 09:28:22 

So apparently, he got protection in the Canadian embassy overnight, then their security escorted him to the airport.
From the horses mouth and not the PNC talking about Rumjattan giving him security, or that some PPP supporter took him to the airport.

I just came to understand that this is a Berbiciancool from Canje, a decent bloke per most who know him including a few of his batchmates at UG.

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-02 09:59:56 

In reply to uton

Here's a geopolitical question for all of those who are still trapped in the race politics of the 60's. After the last round of corruption propagated by the PPP/c and the comfort level of the regional super power experiences working with this current government, do you think they might give Venezuela back their oil if they see Guyana going sideways again?

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-02 10:04:07 

In reply to Norm

That Karandass's constituency was losing plenty of sugar industry jobs through the actions of the government did not matter to the AFC leadership.


Oh for heaven's sake!!! We CANNOT produce sugar cheaply enough to make it a viable export commodity. We have LOST our protected markets. Why are we continuously beating this sugar drum as if all we need to do is grow cane, cut it and all of a sudden the sugar estates will be profitable again. That ship has sailed!!!

Brazil is making a killing exploiting the sale of Soybeans to China now that the USA has left their flank exposed in that regard. Why aren't we looking for ways to exploit the next profitable agrarian crop rather than talking about Sugar?

 
rockstarxxx 2019-01-02 11:13:58 

Why are we still talking about Charrandass?

He made his vote and rightfully it should be counted and valid.

Let the constitution take over the matter.

There should be no-one trying to overturn his vote.

The current government had a few years to make the changes they promised the people to get their votes.

Let the people of Guyana make their decision on the next vote.

 
uton 2019-01-02 11:57:42 

In reply to Larr Pullo

After the last round of corruption propagated by the PPP/c and the comfort level of the regional super power experiences working with this current government, do you think they might give Venezuela back their oil if they see Guyana going sideways again?


Venezuela is at current enemy #1 in the region and multinationals have fled Venezuela in the recent past so most likely Guyana is safe from foreign intervention.

 
uton 2019-01-02 12:35:03 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Oh for heaven's sake!!! We CANNOT produce sugar cheaply enough to make it a viable export commodity. We have LOST our protected markets. Why are we continuously beating this sugar drum as if all we need to do is grow cane, cut it and all of a sudden the sugar estates will be profitable again. That ship has sailed!!!


As Goofballs state we are primitive and unable to envision the future without the accouterments of the past, most of us do not want to evolve economically as we feel secure being eternal peasants once the figurehead seems to be physically similar to us, which we are dearly wishing for.

 
jcveletta 2019-01-02 15:52:26 

In reply to Larr Pullo

"We have LOST our protected markets."
Evidence please.

 
Runs 2019-01-02 17:49:05 

More on that 34 votes needed for majority fiasco.

Link Text

 
Emir 2019-01-02 18:59:17 

In reply to Larr Pullo

We CANNOT produce sugar cheaply enough to make it a viable export commodity.


I don't know anyone needs convincing of this fact. Caribbean Sugar was dead and buried long ago.

No country in the region can produce cheap enough and large enough to achieve economies of scale to make this a viable commodity.

 
Dukes 2019-01-02 19:16:18 

In reply to Norm

and not to represent his constituency.


None of those people in Parliament have any constituency.None of them were elected.They were all SELECTED by the party leadership.Nobody voted for Charandass. People either voted for Ramotar or Granger.
That is why this whole scenario is FARCICAL.