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Trump?s Shutdown Is Not About Border Security...
Ewart
2019-01-02 13:07:01
New York Times Editorial Board:
Lets be clear: This fight is not about security. Contrary to Mr. Trumps claims, there is no flood of savage foreigners pouring across the border.
Even so, reasonable Democrats and Republicans acknowledge a need for some mix of more staff, better technology and, yes, fencing as well as humane and sensible immigration and asylum policies.
Achieving all of that has proved a tall order even for competent administrations. But its why Congress, on a bipartisan basis, has already been allocating more money for border security money this administration hasnt even managed to spend so far.
To avoid the complex, hard work that has traditionally gone with his job, Mr. Trump has instead manufactured a political impasse over a symbol, a wall, that even his new acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, back when he was a congressman, derided as an easy thing to sell politically that doesnt really solve the problem.
John Kelly, Mr. Trumps outgoing chief of staff, told The Los Angeles Times that the administration long ago abandoned the idea of a concrete wall as irrelevant to the real needs of border security drawing a heated contradiction from the president on Twitter.
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bravos
2019-01-02 13:11:22
In reply to Ewart
He just using it to pass time,the longer the better. So he thinks..
The US needs to put this nightmare behind them asap..
Runs
2019-01-02 14:42:03
President Trump on James Mattis: "What's he done for me? How has he done in Afghanistan? Not too good. I'm not happy with what he's done in Afghanistan...President Obama fired him, and essentially so did I."
birdseye
2019-01-02 14:54:06
In reply to Runs
Its fascinating to see a draft dodger make all these disparaging remarks about these military professional and nobody calls him out on it --- astonishing! disgraceful!
VIX
2019-01-02 15:26:08
In reply to birdseye
astonishing! disgraceful
Really? after two years of Trump, THIS is astonishing??
Anyways, has the the left wing NYT ever said anything positive about the orange overlord?
Don't worry backroom, 'murica only has 6 more years of this to go
Runs
2019-01-02 15:31:59
In reply to birdseye
True
Oilah
2019-01-02 16:11:32
In reply to birdseye
Its fascinating to see a draft dodger make all these disparaging remarks about these military professional and nobody calls him out on it --- astonishing! disgraceful!
EVERY person who has ever served in the military should refer to him as 'Private Bone Spurs'
Runs
2019-01-02 16:13:24
In reply to Oilah
"We've made a lot of progress with North Korea, Trump said of his relationship with Chairman Kim Jong Un and the country's road to denuclearization.
If another administration came in instead of this administration
youd be having a nice big fat war in Asia.
embsallie
2019-01-02 17:11:03
Trump is a serial liar who deserves respect from no one.
He always finds a way to make it about him with his very myopic outlook on things.
He should be forcibly made to leave office in handcuffs. Thankfully the Meadows' and Jordans' and Nunez' and their ilk are no longer in power and I hope the incoming Democratic House makes his life a living hell - before Mueller comes a knocking..
Ewart
2019-01-02 22:16:19
In reply to VIX
.....the left wing NYT....
If the left wing ever came and poked you in the eye you would not even know what it is.
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nickoutr
2019-01-03 00:19:33
Fake new mocking bird media has everyone on this MB having multiple orgasms
nitro
2019-01-03 06:18:06
Runs
2019-01-03 06:33:27
In reply to Ewart
That guy is an idiot, low IQ individual
Facts: It is wrong to say this shutdown is about a promise Trump ran on. The whole promise was the *U.S. would NOT pay for the wall* now hes literally shut down the government in an effort to BREAK that promise.
dayne
2019-01-03 07:45:39
Trump is playing games, the dangerous part is many of his blind followers do not realize it. If the games continue many people will be financially hurt and the world could go into a recession
Gun_Play
2019-01-03 11:37:03
It's not about border security.
It's about Trump's legacy.
If he gets to build that wall you can bet it will be called Trump's wall or they will be some signage recognizing it as his achievement.
After he repealed almost all of Obama's achievements the Dems will not let it happen.
He will not get that wall at any cost.
embsallie
2019-01-03 12:17:03
In reply to Gun_Play
Also, if his name is on the wall, the DHS will have to pay him (after he leaves office) for the right to have HIS NAME on the wall.
Trump Builds things, remember?
Runs
2019-01-03 13:14:19
Loudmouth say he will hire all the best people. Jail them I say
Exclusive: The Justice Department is investigating whether former interior secretary Ryan Zinke lied during ethics probes, a potential criminal act.
Pack a nasty filthy liars he hired himself included
dayne
2019-01-03 15:29:39
Going forward the way to limit these shutdowns could be done by making it include the paychecks of the Senators and the Congressmen.
Runs
2019-01-03 15:37:01
In reply to dayne
Most dont need it anyways
Drapsey
2019-01-03 15:39:34
In reply to dayne
Going forward the way to limit these shutdowns could be done by making it include the paychecks of the Senators and the Congressmen.
Wouldn't make a difference because they don't need the money.
They're all independently wealthy.
Just doing this as a service to their country.
dayne
2019-01-03 17:41:41
In reply to Drapsey
That is debatable, I am sure there are some self-serving reasons for why they are there.
Runs
2019-01-03 18:20:33
In reply to dayne
Bhai is sheer millionares become Senators, sheesh you dont know that?
np
2019-01-03 19:13:59
In reply to embsallie
He should be forcibly made to leave office in handcuffs. Thankfully the Meadows' and Jordans' and Nunez' and their ilk are no longer in power and I hope the incoming Democratic House makes his life a living hell - before Mueller comes a knocking..
That is how he should exit the stage ... a decrepit human ... who respects no one not named trump.
Id pay to watch that A-hole go to prison or be shot by a firing squad.