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Charrandas put this govt in place...

 
steveo 2019-01-05 06:52:29 

More so than Nagamootoo, in my opinion

A lot of Guyanese outside of Berbice do not know about Charrandas and his impact on the previous election. This guy used to hold a weekly TV program that was very damaging to the PPP in their stronghold of Berbice. In my estimation, he swayed more than the 4000 votes from the PPP to the AFC.

Its ironic that he is the person now bringing down this govt.

 
Dukes 2019-01-05 07:29:35 

In reply to steveo

I am asking you two questions since you seem to know a lot about this chap who I had never heard of.

1. Did he sell his law practice to the retired magistrate earlier in December?

2.Did he tell Ryan "effing" Crawford that he wanted his money owed for the car he sold that same day since he was leaving the country that night after the vote?

 
steveo 2019-01-05 07:50:31 

In reply to Dukes

1. Did he sell his law practice to the retired magistrate earlier in December?

2.Did he tell Ryan "effing" Crawford that he wanted his money owed for the car he sold that same day since he was leaving the country that night after the vote?


Dukesy, I know the man as a fellow Berbician, those questions you asking probably only he or his wife can tell u

I heard from the news that he sold his vehicle, how payment was done etc, I dont

 
Dukes 2019-01-05 07:57:19 

In reply to steveo

K

One incontrovertible fact that I think we both agree on.Jagdeo is a far smarter politician than Granger.

 
steveo 2019-01-05 08:04:10 

In reply to Dukes

One incontrovertible fact that I think we both agree on.Jagdeo is a far smarter politician than Granger.


Hmmm, so you are saying that its not possible that Charrandas was honest, that his vote was one of conscience?

The man was from Canjie, the same village where one of the sugar estates were closed.

 
Curtis 2019-01-05 08:57:19 

In reply to Dukes

I think he knew he couldn't handle the stress of staying there and voting the way he did.

Are you thinking that because he might have sold his office etc. That he is being dishonest?

Whether he made a deal or not, don't know. He certainly had valid reasons to vote how he did.

 
Curtis 2019-01-05 09:03:52 

In reply to Dukes

To be honest, any government holding a 33 to 32 advantage would be susceptible to something like this and as a new entity, their goal should have been to please the people and build a larger seat count next election.

In reality, they failed to please their coalition members (or one of them) and this was either exploited or was a surprise.

The way the AFC was ignored was documented many times prior to this vote but the APNU pressed on regardless.

It is a positive step in GT politics. Let's hope they can continue to keep any elected government on a short leash.

 
Runs 2019-01-05 09:29:21 

In reply to Curtis

well said

 
Dukes 2019-01-05 09:31:23 

In reply to steveo


Hmmm, so you are saying that its not possible that Charrandas was honest, that his vote was one of conscience?


I know you do not think that Ranji Chandisingh and Vincent Teekah had votes of conscience when they crossed the floor and supported Forbes.

I also do not think that you feel that Khemraj and Moses suddenly realized that the PPP was corrupt when they did.

How about Odinga Lumumba and Henry Jeffrey?

Whenever a politician in Guyana tells me about Conscience, as the reason for changing their political allegiance I am not just skeptical,I am enraged, because I know it is FALSE

 
steveo 2019-01-05 12:39:32 

In reply to Dukes

Thats your thinking, its plausible to me that he had a falling out with the APNU party...

Did you know he collapsed and was taken to the public hospital in NA? I did not until shortly, when I read the news. The guy was suffering from some medical problem, then he took a break from parliament to take an hour rest in his car, then rejoined the session. The APNU minister had no tolerance for his problem, and chastised the man.

People who did not have any sort of qualifications or accomplishments to their name, treating this man like a kid.

How long would you accept treatment like that?

 
Dukes 2019-01-05 13:02:18 

In reply to steveo

People of principle resign from a party they no longer agree with.In Guyana there is only SELECTION by the party bosses who determine who sits in Parliament.The 2015 election there were 2 names on the ballot essentially and it was Granger and Ramotar.
The fact that the PPP were in power for 23 years and did not change it and this coalition also did not change it speaks volumes as to their wanting any kind of democracy.They are both corrupt failures and if Jagdeo is the puppet master of the next Government we will end up in the same swamp of corruption, nepotism and incompetence that has visited our homeland since time immemorial.
There will be no change just an EXCHANGE.

No third party can ever get off the ground because nobody is willing to do the political work needed.It would take about 10 years for a political party to get enough traction to change the 2 party dominance.It also requires significant change in the Constitution and that is not going to happen as long as either the PPP or the PNC are in power.

 
Dukes 2019-01-05 13:09:04 

In reply to steveo

its plausible to me that he had a falling out with the APNU party.


REALLY??
If he had a falling out with APNU and they have a no confidence motion coming up then they would have realized that he was going to betray them and toss him out of Parliament.
Also did he not speak in the Budget debate and lambast the PPP a few weeks ago?

 
steveo 2019-01-05 13:15:53 

In reply to Dukes

They are both corrupt failures and if Jagdeo is the puppet master of the next Government we will end up in the same swamp of corruption, nepotism and incompetence that has visited our homeland since time immemorial. There will be no change just an EXCHANGE.


Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils. People across Guyana have indicated that this govt is WORSE.

 
steveo 2019-01-05 13:17:39 

In reply to Dukes

If he had a falling out with APNU and they have a no confidence motion coming up then they would have realized that he was going to betray them and toss him out of Parliament.


I think they were confident that no one would cross them, they did not think he had the balls...

If he did not plan his escape so well, I am sure he would have been dead or have his property in ashes

 
Runs 2019-01-05 13:26:24 

In reply to Dukes

Agreed, Guyana needs change not exchange

 
steveo 2019-01-05 13:33:44 

In reply to Runs

Agreed, Guyana needs change not exchange


All of you come dung yah so and farm wan party wink wink

 
goofballs 2019-01-05 13:35:44 

Well done, Mohandass! smile

What the man did with one vote, nobody could have done against Burnham for decades! He stood up, took a stance.
This argument I don't understand, that he should have told them that he would not vote for them. People that entitled especially over their flock that they neglected?
I talked about the wife who had enough and would plan to make her move to count, and also hit hard at where it hurts the most.
(I still hear that woman bawling in my head).

He is not that stupid like the fools of a cabinet braying nonsense to the whole world.
Why should he show his hand?
Did they tell Hitler they were coming?

Charrandas with that one move would hold his place in the history of Guyana ane fourth world countries.

Now the PNC, KFC, APNU need not single one man for their failure.
Lots of people I know from all hues and walks of life dropped everything to support the new peeps. They were the ones betrayed. mostly because of the selfishness, greed, power, corruption, etc.

 
Dukes 2019-01-05 14:06:59 

In reply to steveo

All of you come dung yah so and farm wan party



The answer below addresses the issue


No third party can ever get off the ground because nobody is willing to do the political work needed.It would take about 10 years for a political party to get enough traction to change the 2 party dominance.It also requires significant change in the Constitution and that is not going to happen as long as either the PPP or the PNC are in power.

 
goofballs 2019-01-05 14:15:15 

In reply to Dukes

To me it seems more analogous to coming into town and trying to invade the territory of two established mafias.
Can happen but only after a lot of bloodshed (of habits and mentality).