Who has tried the Ketogenic diet?

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link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/8/19 7:53:24 PM 
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Pros?
Cons?
Results?

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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1/8/19 9:32:04 PM 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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1/8/19 9:41:36 PM 
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Pros

Fast FAT loss
Easy to follow after 4-6 weeks
Motivated to work out as you are sure to see results

Cons
The first few weeks is hell. Best to try this out with a few weeks off from work, school etc.

Workouts feel like crap as Keto is not the best diet for lifting weights. The point is though you are seeking fat loss which is faster on this diet than on a high or even moderate carbs diet.

You are stuck with vodka and water, no beer when you need to socialize.


I dropped 20lbs of fat from April to December

link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/8/19 10:11:11 PM 
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The thing whichis scaryis that I read about electrolytes, potassium and sodium to make sure your heart is ok.

I am thinking just to do low carb, no carbs after 6, carb cycling and of course exercise

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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1/9/19 5:25:52 AM 
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No, if you want your carbs i would suggest having your carbs two times for the day. You can have it after work out, pteferably glucose and have low GI carb such as sweet potato before bed. This will not make you fat, instead it will aid in you having good quality deep sleep. I did this in 2017 after following the advice of Nick Mitchell of UP Fitness.

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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1/9/19 5:34:07 AM 
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https://upfitness.com/en/article_posts/diet/nutrition/high-fat-keto-diet-secret-better-fat-loss

link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/9/19 7:58:26 AM 
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Thanks. Will read and see. But experience has been that any carb after 6 adds to the pounds on the scale

link VIX Joined: Feb 7, 2003
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1/9/19 8:57:03 AM 
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you've been in and out of many diets over the last few years. I said in another post that all diets work, but that only lifestyle change will keep the weight off. Keto isn't magic. It and others work because they restrict calories.

You can and will gain fat if you overeat while on keto. And you'll regain the weight lost on keto when the "diet" is over.

Find a sustainable way to comfortably restrict calories and you'll lose the weight and keep it off. And you'll also be done with the fad diets. Intermittent fasting works for me, something else might work for you.

link pelon Joined: Mar 22, 2008
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1/9/19 8:58:59 AM 
The no diet, diet:

Cut out all sugar (and sugary foods), replace with honey if needed. Avoid bread. Exercise to burn calories (calculate your avg intake, burn accordingly), swimming being the best low impact exercise.


Yo-Yo effect.

You gain weight based on how your body metabolize foods. YOUR body is different to all others... and why many diets suffer from yo-yo effect.
a. Burning calories greater than intake will lose weight - but is not sustainable.
b. Eating less will not lose weight long term. Eating RIGHT will.

CHANGE your intake AND increase/adapt your caloric burning routine.

Lastly: do not attempt to lose weight quickly. ever.

link RemainsUnknown Joined: Apr 15, 2005
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1/9/19 9:02:52 AM 
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well said......

link RemainsUnknown Joined: Apr 15, 2005
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1/9/19 9:04:20 AM 
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well said......

link nitro Joined: Apr 10, 2003
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1/9/19 10:14:56 AM 
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You need to track what you eat, especially if you are looking fat loss.
I use fitday.com and it has been very useful.

Go to ketogains.com to calculate how much you need to eat. They have a great calculator that shows you how much to eat on days you exercise and days you do not.

They also calculate how the amount of protein, carbs and fat to consume.

Avoid the temptation to have more than one cup of coffee on this diet. Coffee messes your chokesterol and BUM ratios.

link black Joined: Feb 28, 2004
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1/9/19 10:32:49 AM 
You all need to give up the sedentary lifestyle. My weight never fluctuate more than 2 to 3 pounds and it has been the same for years. If I gain a few pounds during the holidays, it will go right back down to my natural weight in a few days.

link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/9/19 10:47:01 AM 
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Lucky you wink

link VIX Joined: Feb 7, 2003
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1/9/19 10:50:26 AM 
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You all need to give up the sedentary lifestyle.


shock lol lol
sez the man who posts here every five minutes big grin

link RemainsUnknown Joined: Apr 15, 2005
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1/9/19 11:52:42 AM 
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Lucky you wink
Don't take this the wrong way........ BUT, that's part of the problem with people who are constantly battling weight-gain problem.

They think it's pure "luck" for those of us who do not fluctuate more than 5 lbs.

As Black said..... and Vix.... make it a LIFESTYLE....... day in and day out......

the days that we do splurge... will not matter because there are MORE days where we eat right & exercise......

there is not LUCK in that...... all part of the LIFESTYLE plan.......

some days i walk 3K steps...... some days I walk 21K steps......
I park at the end of the parking lot. I take the stairs to meetings and even when I'm on vacation, I walk up the stairs to my room. run on the beach, swim everyday..... (that's when I'm on vacation)

Every little extra effort in exercising and every little bad food you cut back on, HELPS.

LIFESTYLE is the keyword....... many folks wait till it's too late and you have to cut out this and cut out that......

I cut back (not cut-out --cause I want to enjoy what I eat and what I drink) on sugar, carbs, bad fats, soda, etc more days than not.....

routinely: I eat my oatmeal at breakfast, fruits at mid-morning, my veggies & grilled chicken at lunch.. drink about a gallon of water a day... but I have a hearty dinner, curry & brown rice or roti, sometimes... often, I have more adult drinks than I should some wknds.....

but at the end of the DAY....... it's a LIFESTYLE you have to LIVE for 85%+ of the time....

I could easily make the excuse that I sit at my desk 8-9 hours a day and work on the computer that's why I'm fat..... but I prefer not to use that as an excuse.... and get off my ass and do something about it, EVERYDAY.

LUCK?........ that's when shit occurs by happenstance......
More like FORTUNATE.... results happen because you put yourself in that position.

link black Joined: Feb 28, 2004
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1/9/19 12:20:07 PM 
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sez the man who posts here every five minutes


That man just happened to be a fitness nut. lol

link StumpCam Joined: Jan 1, 2004
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1/9/19 1:10:18 PM 
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Bhai , why don’t you tell them people you need to go on a diet to gain weight! razz

link nick2020 Joined: Jul 2, 2012
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1/9/19 1:28:48 PM 
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The power of a woman lol

Yammy listen to some honest advice.

Look all around you. There are people who still eat junk food and drink a beer occasionally. May never be going into a gym but may be getting exercise by going on hikes or swims or playing with their dogs in the park. Yet they have a body composition that we would deem healthy.

The point really is these diet are not the solution. Not for your long term health anyway. It takes years for us to become unhealthy and even longer for us to undo it.

Step 1 - Be happy with who you are.
Step 2 - Be healthy.

In time your body will return to being at its best.

link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/9/19 5:35:35 PM 
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I got Step 2 on lock. Never had high blood pressure, glucose or high cholesterol.

Step 1......happy with my personality, never with my body, even when I was 50 lbs lighter than I am now. I have always considered myself obese (and the BmI indx agrees). I guess it is all in the mind.

Any shrinks on here?

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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1/9/19 5:38:49 PM 
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Give up wheat COMPLETELY. (Read Wheat Belly, Book by Dr. William Davis)

You can eat everything else in moderation.

You can eat generous amounts of some low glycemic index foods to remain feeling full and energetic.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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1/9/19 5:50:33 PM 
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I don't do diets. I don't eat red meat but I eat anything I want in moderation and I am very disciplined that way.
Diets do not work. I also walk 20K a week and exercise for at least three hours as well.

link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/9/19 9:41:36 PM 
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Awesome routine

link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/9/19 9:44:01 PM 
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Finding healthy fats in the quantity recommended seems impossible. Beef is not something I eat.....neither bacon, hamburger etc. 75% of calories from fat seems excessive

link Yamfoot Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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1/9/19 9:46:01 PM 
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The sustainable way to restrict calories is the problem. I love food......but it is healthy food.....just in tooo. Much quantity.

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