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My team for the first test vs Eng

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-13 10:44:29 


Kraigg Braithwaite,
Devon Smith,
Shai hope,
Hetmyer,
Roston Chase,
Dowrich,
Holder,
Paul,
Roach,
Gabriel,
Bishoo

 
seko 2019-01-13 10:52:32 

Yes. That is a good team. However, Bishoo can loose out to Cornwall.

 
Nyabinghi 2019-01-13 11:01:04 

In reply to Larr Pullo

What’s your facination with Devon Smith?

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-13 11:02:20 

In reply to Nyabinghi

I am willing to replace him when you can find a better opener. Don't just drop him and bring in a player who can't bat for an hour.

 
CricketLuva4 2019-01-13 11:10:23 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Thank Goodness it's "your" team and not the "WI team".

 
ray 2019-01-13 11:14:32 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Tage can bat for several hours cool

 
Judgement 2019-01-13 11:16:18 

In reply to ray

Tage can bat for several hours

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
imusic 2019-01-13 11:20:59 

In reply to ray

De man say BAT. Not block

 
seko 2019-01-13 11:25:24 

We have seen over the years that this humble man is a consistent performer on the domestic circuit. The bosses of our cricket has never given him a fair chance. It would seem that expectation for him to perform at the test level far exceed what other cricketers are placed under. Yet he continues to out do them.

 
ray 2019-01-13 11:26:36 

In reply to imusic

bat...block...with West Indies, anything will do for several hours big grin

 
ray 2019-01-13 11:27:26 

In reply to seko

fair chance?what constitutes a fair chance?

 
VoopsandOut 2019-01-13 11:28:16 

not a bad team but why Bishoo over Warrican?

 
Judgement 2019-01-13 11:33:54 

In reply to ray

what constitutes a fair chance?

Maybe he'll miraculously start scoring against international teams like he does domestically, when he hits 40? He's had 15 years to score on the big stage, why not give him a couple more years to keep trying big grin big grin big grin

 
LBW375 2019-01-13 11:43:38 

If Kirk Edward's get a few more big scores I would prefer to see him in the test XI any day over Devon Smith. Smitty ship sail long time

 
doosra 2019-01-13 11:44:47 

Add rasta in deh

 
Seechy 2019-01-13 11:56:03 

In reply to seko

Bishoo is injured.

 
Seechy 2019-01-13 12:00:40 

Brathwaite
Hemraj
Hope
Hetmyer
Chase
Dowrich (wk)
Holder (c)
Paul
Warrican
Roach
Gabriel

 
Lamb 2019-01-13 12:07:57 

In reply to Larr Pullo

+1 (Devon Smith)

It is being said that newly appointed coach Mr Pybus admires his work ethics, being one of the fittest players in the region.

You seem to be in the ball because a confidante set me recently.
1.J Holder....captain
2.D. Bishoo
3.K Brathwaite
4.D Bravo
5.R. Chase
6.S. Dowich
7.S. Gabriel
8.S. Hetmeyer
9.S. Hope
10.k. Paul
11.K. Powell
12.K. Roach
13.D.Smith
Coach...R. Pybus
Director J. Adams
Manager R. Lewis


1Brathwaite
2Smith
3Bravo
4Hope
5Hetmeyer
6Chase
7Holder
8Dowich
9Paul
10Roach
11Gabriel

 
hawk 2019-01-13 12:46:44 

Brathwaite
Hemraj ...i am not so sure, but what the heck
Hope
Hetmyer
Chase
Dowrich (wk)
Holder (c)
Paul
Thomas
Roach
Gabriel

no warrican or bishoo, enough of this spinning thing.....pace and more pace

 
imusic 2019-01-13 12:52:08 

In reply to seko

We have seen over the years that this humble man is a consistent performer on the domestic circuit. The bosses of our cricket has never given him a fair chance.

De forkah play 43 Test matches and cyah average 24 yet. WTF yuh talkin about “never given a fair chance?” confused rolleyes evil

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2019-01-13 12:55:31 

I am amazed lil B is being ignored. If he is available he must be in the mix up

 
Barbrady1 2019-01-13 13:03:38 

Braithwaite
Campbell
Hope
Bravo
Hetmyer
Cornwall
Dowrich
Holder
Roach
Gabriel
Thomas

 
hubert 2019-01-13 13:42:48 

There should b e consequencies for losing to Bangladesh recently.
Hence I would like to see this team:

Hemraj
Hodge
Hope
Bravo
Hetmeyer
Chase
Dowrich
Holder
Paul
Roach
Gabriel

Big Corn should debut in Antigua Test

 
WICFan 2019-01-13 13:46:34 

I'd rather play Shai Hope as opener than recall Devon Smith.

 
Conorboy 2019-01-13 13:57:44 

Think we have a chance of winning this series if we win the first test.
England will be Rusty and we should get at them wih pace early
Kraigg
Hemraj
Hope
Chase
Hetymer
Dowrich
Holder
Keemo
Oshane (with 5 pacers he can be protected
Angel
Roche.

 
anthonyp 2019-01-13 14:12:18 

My XI

1. Shai
2. Kraigg
3. Bravo
4. Dowrich
5. Hety
6. Chase
7. Holder
8. Cornwall
9. Roach
10. Alzarri
11. Gabriel

12. Keemo
13. Hemraj
14. Warrican

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-13 14:24:21 

In reply to anthonyp

Dude Keemo Paul is the smartest bowler we have in the WI. I’m definitely picking him in my first test team.

 
silver 2019-01-13 14:55:34 

In reply to Larr Pullo


Kraigg
Smith
Are you having a senior moment

 
LBW375 2019-01-13 15:22:16 

Paul should be in starting XI

 
NYCGURU 2019-01-13 15:34:27 

In reply to imusic

That chap has to be a Devon Smith family member. I guess for him 43 test matches are not enough. That has to be one of the funniest post ever.

 
TheTrail 2019-01-13 16:39:44 

In reply to NYCGURU

Devon had his chance in 2018 to solidify his position at the top of the order, and he blew it.

I congratulated the selector for giving him another chance, after scoring big runs in the regional four-day format.

The next person who should be given another chance if he scores at least three or four centuries this year is Kirk Edwards.

His stats at test level is very good.

Matches: 15

Innings: 32

Average :....31.81

50s:.......8

100s:........2

SR:..........48.05

 
Cricket_101 2019-01-13 17:01:57 

Don’t be surprised if Tage and Bramble mek dem debut...

 
TheTrail 2019-01-13 17:37:08 

In reply to Larr Pullo

This duo along with Gabriel could do some damage to England top and middle order, at Kensington Oval.

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silver 2019-01-13 18:06:52 

In reply to TheTrail


I would not call Kirk Edwards stats very good. But yes it's better than Ambris

 
silver 2019-01-13 18:15:51 

In reply to TheTrail


Keemo Paul is one of the most promising players but Keemo is not a test match bowler. Anyone can get wickets playing windwards. Yes Keemo can bowl in New Zealand and when we tour England in April. Keemo will play ODI when Russell is unavailable

 
TheTrail 2019-01-13 18:16:25 

In reply to silver

You are telling me that you would argue Ambris' stats against Kirk Edwards?

Ambris doesn't have a century in a test match far less a fifty

and you are telling me that Kirk's stats are not very good?

I grant you that he hasn't played that many tests to compare his stats...all I am saying for this argument, doh go there.

I still have Ambris in my eleven for the first test.

My XI


1.Kraigg Brathwaite
2. Chanderpaul Hemraj
3.Shai Hope
4. Shimron Hetmyer
5.Roston Chase
6.Sunil Ambris
7.Shane Dowrich
8. Jason Holder
9. Keemo Paul
10. Kemar Roach
11.Shannon Gabriel


I liked Hemraj's batting in the four days version. He should be Kraigg's partner at the top instead of Powell.

My reason for not including Powell is because he doesn't have a good track record in test matches against England. In the six test matches,12 innings, he played against them, Anderson took his wicket five times, Broad three and Stokes once.


I would like to see Keemo Paul in this first test. He could give you an extended batting lineup in case Anderson and Broad takes out the top and middle order cheaply, Dowrich, Holder, and Paul could stop them from running through us.

That #3 pitch is always a batsman wicket from day 1 to 4. If Jason won the toss, he should bat first.

You don't want to bat last on that wicket. (reliable source)

 
Dukes 2019-01-13 18:29:44 

In reply to silver

Keemo Paul is one of the most promising players but Keemo is not a test match bowler. Anyone can get wickets playing windwards.


I am curious to know who are the "test match bowlers in the WI" and the list of fast bowlers who took 10 wickets in a match against the Windwards in the last 5 years.

 
silver 2019-01-13 18:41:44 

In reply to Dukes


I saw Bramble standing up to the stumps for Keemo. You can't play Holder and Keemo in the same team in these conditions. We have a dibbly dubbly in Holder already. If you're worried about batting then we have no business playing test cricket

 
Dukes 2019-01-13 18:48:52 

In reply to silver

I asked you two questions and you answered neither.

 
Oilah 2019-01-13 19:07:20 

In reply to silver

Keemo Paul is one of the most promising players but Keemo is not a test match bowler.


Is there some device that people does use to determine the future of young players at the beginning of their careers? confused

Keemo is a talented cricketer leh we see what he can do before we put shackles pun im rolleyes

 
Toney 2019-01-13 19:13:44 

In reply to silver
Ih ave never known of an England batsman who is prficient at playing wrist spin. For that reason Iwould inlclude Bishoo in starting X1 for the 1st test.

 
voiceofreason 2019-01-13 19:25:00 

In reply to TheTrail

Ambris has only played 6 test matches to Kirk's 17 tests. So I believe the comparison is very premature rendering it unfair.

 
voiceofreason 2019-01-13 19:34:08 

In reply to silver

Agreed. Keemo is competing for Holder's slot. I would go with Roach/Aljo/Gabriel/Holder and Cornwall.

 
TheTrail 2019-01-13 19:41:50 

In reply to voiceofreason

I explained that to 'Hear Silver'! lol

I grant you that he hasn't played that many tests to compare his stats...all I am saying for this argument, doh go there.

I still have Ambris in my eleven for the first test.


I believe Silver is trying to creating an argument for argument sake! lol lol

 
silver 2019-01-13 19:43:56 

In reply to Toney


Not just wrist spin they don't play any spin. They play their cricket on seamer friendly tracks

 
TheTrail 2019-01-13 19:45:55 

In reply to silver

In reply to Dukes

We have a dibbly dubbly in Holder already.


Silver?

Jason Holder the all-rounder ICC standing:

Test: #10

ODI All-rounder: #9

T20i : #3

 
Yadi 2019-01-13 20:05:32 

1.) K Brathwaite
2.) D Bravo
3.) S Hope
4.) S Dowrich
5.) S Hetmyer
6.) R Chase
7.) J Holder
8.) K Roach
9.) D Bishoo
10) A Joseph
11) S Gabriel

 
Brundog 2019-01-13 20:06:16 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Good Team but I would give TAGENARINE CHANDERPAUL a chance.

 
Yadi 2019-01-13 20:06:59 

In reply to silver

Reserves: John Campbell & Kemo Paul.

 
openning 2019-01-13 20:07:26 

In reply to voiceofreason

Ambris has only played 6 test matches to Kirk's 17 tests. So I believe the comparison is very premature rendering it unfair.

The format Sunil Ambris should had been selected for is the 50 overs/ODI.
Have a look at his list A and First class stats..
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silver 2019-01-13 20:51:29 

In reply to Brundog


He scores slower than Braithwaite. Are you trying to kill test cricket all together?

lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
Kay 2019-01-13 22:38:01 

In reply to silver

He scores slower than Braithwaite. Are you trying to kill test cricket all together?

Nope! We are trying to carry the match into day 5 and try to eke out a draw if possible ..

 
Judgement 2019-01-14 01:41:32 

In reply to Kay

trying to carry the match into day 5 and try to eke out a draw if possible ..

Oh the ambitious aspirations of some rolleyes rolleyes

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-14 02:36:19 

In reply to Kay

I understand the thinking of learning to draw games before you win. However, consider the WI could still get bowled out for 250, and Tage would be about 25 not out!

 
granite 2019-01-14 04:10:41 

In reply to Larr Pullo
England would just open the bowling with Ali and Rasheed and hey presto,Devon's back in the shed in no time.

lol lol lol

 
Judgement 2019-01-14 04:50:36 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Link Text

Steve Smith "We Don't Pay You to Play, We Pay You to Win"

You are clearly from a bygone era if you think CWI spent massive amounts of money on tours, is seriously in debt and is having to contend with playing minnow nations, in the mere hope of "learning to draw games". This is elite sports where stakes are high and cricket at this highest level, is a business. It is not a college girls soccer tournament.

 
RemainsUnknown 2019-01-14 09:55:55 

In reply to Judgement

Smith Reveals Win-At-Any-Cost Culture

Steve Smith "We Don't Pay You to Play, We Pay You to Win"
And the CHEATER got BANNED cause he was doing anything to win....... lol lol lol lol

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-14 10:02:58 

In reply to Judgement

Dude!! To play winning cricket you have to learn how to get yourself in position not to lose the game. You don't just go from losing with regularity to winning just so. Winning requires the critical element of taking 20 wickets which means you have to have bowlers capable of doing that. To do that the bowlers have to know how to bowl in partnership and apply and maintain pressure. Now ask yourself, do we have such bowlers at our disposal?

Once you have the bowlers in place, then you have to have batsmen capable of setting and chasing targets, or if the team gets into trouble, capable of batting for time. Ask yourself, do we have such batsmen at our disposal?

Just a little cricket 101 for you. lol lol

 
anadayardi 2019-01-14 10:34:10 

I would give Hemraj another season, he just scored his first century. Besides Devon the most consistent opener has been John Campbell. John just needs to start converting his starts into big scores. He scores 50's with his eyes closed but gets out shortly after. I would say he would be the next opener who deserves a shot. And with all the A team experience I'm pretty sure he will be next in line.

 
RemainsUnknown 2019-01-14 11:38:31 

Devon Smith is the Mark Ramprakash of Wondies cricket...... FC bully and a perennial & colossal failure at the international level.....

 
natty_forever 2019-01-14 12:03:12 

In reply to RemainsUnknown … and who are the others that fail at both levels, like?


However, if Devon was stuck with as with some of those shyting on their boots, I and Larr big grin, feel our boy would come good. Show him that you truly believe in him and watch the difference.

 
Dukes 2019-01-14 12:14:17 

In reply to natty_forever

Do you realize that the late, great Sir Clyde Walcott played 74 Innings in test cricket and Devon Smith played 76!!!!!!!

To say that he needs more chances to establish himself is ludicrous.

 
natty_forever 2019-01-14 12:49:15 

In reply to Dukes… I am the MB comic relief.

lol


However, did Sir Walcott play those in 3 parts? And Sir Walcott failed in his first test, Devon didn't, yet was discarded unceremoniously. The man was a shattered force since.
big grin

 
doosra 2019-01-14 13:19:08 

Tage is not ready yet.

He needs this year and at least 1 more year

by 25 he will be fine

his defense is in good order generally...that's good

 
RemainsUnknown 2019-01-14 13:24:40 

In reply to natty_forever

Devon didn't, yet was discarded unceremoniously. The man was a shattered force since.
So Devon is even WEAKER than we thought....... hmm...... no wonder he is a colossal and an abject failure.

 
natty_forever 2019-01-14 13:26:32 

In reply to RemainsUnknown… nothing a good sports psychologist and a long run caan fix .

big grin

 
RemainsUnknown 2019-01-14 13:43:35 

In reply to natty_forever

yep... 16 years and counting....... it takes quite a LONG time to fix a FAILURE........ probably.... most likely, NEVER........ lol lol lol lol

 
Runs 2019-01-14 13:46:29 

In reply to RemainsUnknown

What is the definition of insanity?




Devon Smith’s test selection
lol

 
Kay 2019-01-14 13:49:05 

In reply to natty_forever

nothing a good sports psychologist and a long run caan fix .

But de man is 38 .... how long run are you suggesting?

 
Ewart 2019-01-14 15:03:02 

It was Garfield Sobers who said:

Cricket is a game of runs. If you can't make runs you will not win.



It is Ewart who said:

You can't make runs sitting in the pavilion.


Add to that, the following considerations:

1. Opening bats must occupy the crease, take the shine off the ball and set a good foundation.

2. Five or four pacemen of the apocalypse can't help you if you go to play a five-day Test without 5 solid bats, a batting wk, and bowlers who can bat. (See Australia from the days of Keith Miller).

And when you have done all that, pick your team.

For me, Tage is a must on the touring squad.

//

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-14 15:08:02 

In reply to Ewart

Let Tage play A team cricket first.

 
StumpCam 2019-01-14 15:10:53 

In reply to Ewart

Endorsed 100% wink

 
natty_forever 2019-01-14 15:21:31 

In reply to Kay… I guess that has passed.

 
Runs 2019-01-14 15:37:46 

In reply to Ewart

Poke the shine off the new ball let Hety come later and beat it like a bucktop lol

 
BeatDball 2019-01-14 18:26:09 

I guess JBlackwood gwine hold hood!? There's no place for him at all? Btw, where is he?
confused evil

 
imusic 2019-01-14 18:59:52 

In reply to Ewart

1. Opening bats must occupy the crease, take the shine off the ball and set a good foundation.

With maximum respect, that is some outdated thinking there. Not to say that approach doesn’t have some merit. But it’s far from the ONLY approach. A more aggressive approach has proven to be extremely successful in test cricket.

The role of an opening batsman, even in the stuffy and traditional world of Test cricket, has changed from that old edict.

The game has changed. Even test cricket has changed. Scoring rates have increased. The great Aussie teams under Ponting and Taylor set that trend based on the initial West Indian model of Greenidge and Haynes.

 
Cricket_101 2019-01-14 19:07:04 

In reply to Larr Pullo

big grin lol smile

 
tc1 2019-01-14 21:34:05 

In reply to anadayardi

Pudgy has scored 1 ton ,. it was last week , now he should open the batting, next

 
Larr Pullo 2019-01-15 02:49:11 

In reply to imusic

How did the most successful opening batsman of this generation do it? That's Alistair Cook in case you're wondering.

 
anadayardi 2019-01-15 10:36:49 

In reply to tc1

I'm assuming Pudgy is Hemraj? If so, yes, I'm aware that he scored a ton last week. BUT that's my point, that ton was his first 1st class ton. Let him be more consistent. I was actually happy for him. I was surprised he was selected to go to India and Bangladesh where he looked out of depth. But you can see that the international experience is paying off.

Let him develop some more before throwing him to test cricket.

And I honestly think Campbell is ahead of him as the next opener. I believe he is the next opener in line for a selection, he is consistent, just need to convert those 50s to 100s.

 
Ewart 2019-01-15 11:01:19 

In reply to imusic

You are right, of course. But that ONLY works when you have a solid batting team.

All the teams you mentioned (plus India) have/had solid batting teams.


We don't. shock rolleyes


And so we have to crawl our way back, courtesy of men like Paint and Tage, and work ourselves back to the level of Haynes and Greenwich.

And remember... They have not been replaced.


//

 
imusic 2019-01-15 11:22:42 

In reply to Ewart

Neither paint nor tage can bat. PERIOD