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Yes! Jehovah will always protect his people!
When I was younger I worked for a Standing Seam roofing company.
Was a small outfit but one of the few on the Island.
Before signing with the Company i made it clear I would not work on Sundays and one night during the week I needed to end by 5.30pm so I could make my midweek service.
The Super decided he did not like the arrangement and regularly tried to force us to stay to break my resolve.
I compromised a couple times but then realized that this was a thinly veiled attempt to break my loyalty to my God.
I ended up walking off the job one evening.
Subsequently filed for unemployment and bossman decided to fight it. We had a hearing. Long story short, not only did he have to pay the unemployment, but all the back pay for overtime. (He claimed that because he was paying $20/hre it was assumed we would work overtime without further compensation.)
I could have taken him to Court for violating my right to Worship...but I decided against it and just enjoyed my freedom to Worship.
I also was pretty lenient in the hrs I claimed to work OT.
I always made it clear since that I do not work on specific days so I can Worship and have never had an 8ssue since!
In reply to Ayenmol
You go Bro!
In reply to SnoopDog
In reply to nitro
Please!
In reply to pelon
Lousy Frank.
In reply to pelon
I do not agree with those, nor do I care for those who claim or insinuate that "GOD only loves them or somehow loves them more" or that they are somehow "closer to GOD" or that their belief is superior to others and "GOD only protects them" supposedly at the expense of others etc.
So it is unfortunate the poster looks to wear his religion in his mouth.
But I also have a low opinion of those who keeps on making fun and disrespecting him like as certain poster/pest who claims he is from Canada and hates all religions but only attacks monotheism faiths and promotes a certain religion form India(nothing wrong with dat btw but his shows his dotishnes and hate)
And you have to ask, who is worse in society, a person who make fun of women and see them as sexual objects and who promotes racism in Guyana or an arrogant "religious" person?
Those who believe in GOD must see religion and faith as a private and personal matter and not try to become addicted to "GOD" because that is extremism.
One should respect all faiths and also those who who do not believe should get the same respect.
We have too much violence and wars based on those who use religion for their evil ways- so they don't follow the religion they claim to love, just use it as a tool, had there been no religion, they would easily get another excuse for the evil ways.
In reply to Mulla bin Emir
And you have to ask, who is worse in society, a person who make fun of women and see them as sexual objects, one who promotes racism in Guyana or an arrogant "religious" person?
You tell them Mulla!
In reply to Mulla bin Emir
and then we get this:
Can we get someone who speaks retardese to translate or make sense of this? Thanks.
In reply to Mulla bin Emir
Nice hasty edit there Mulla.
All of a sudden this thread is a lot of fun.
In reply to SnoopDog
Yuza a fackin retard if you don't understand that line,I thought you would be fluent in "retardese".
In reply to granite
And voila! Our first retard has shown up!
Halal Snackbar!
In reply to granite
And add he/she is fluent in hate as well- Certainly he/she isn't the brightest bulb in the tree.
In reply to Mulla bin Emir
Sorry Mulla. Mulla bin granitehead already got the ham sandwich.
Why you think he's so quiet? Halal Snackbar!
In reply to Mulla Bin Senior
What you talking bout Mulla?
In reply to black
Unsurprisingly, Mulla bin Emir got his burka in a twist and had to back pedal with some quick edits.
Then his little toadie, Mulla bin Granitehead, showed up only to get the bitch slapped out of him.
In reply to SnoopDog
I do not support the original post. Am simply stating my own experience on the topic.
As soon as I realized what was going on I took action to protect my faith.
True Christians realize that others do not understand the reason for their stand...
But we do not compromise then seek monetary recompense. The onus is on the individual to do what is right.
I would not claim a monetary judgement is some blessing from God...but unfortunately that is what many Religions focus on.
In reply to Ayenmol
Yeah, because they realize 'others' use critical thinking and rational thought instead of mindlessly regurgitating and parroting bronze aged nonsense.
And protect your faith from whom exactly? Your employer, who expects you to put in the same hours as everybody else?
Ohhhhh, you're such a helpless and hapless victim of the tyranny of modern day labour practices.
In reply to SnoopDog
Interesting coming from a lawyer.
I guess you are against the Civil rights act of 64?
Or just the parts that does not apply to you?
Where is that law found?
In reply to Ayenmol
Workers rights legislation (at least in Canada) are used as shields, not swords.
You don't walk into an interview and demand from your prospective employer the right to take Sundays off and leave at 5:30pm everyday.
In reply to SnoopDog
You don't walk into an interview and demand from your prospective employer the right to take Sundays off and leave at 5:30pm everyday.
Wow...I had no idea....
In reply to Ayenmol
Well now you do.
And you're not, and never was, a victim so you can just chuck that shite out right about now.
In reply to SnoopDog
Ohhhhh....look the same person who claims Religion forces people to live in a box is trying to force his ideal on me...I have done just fine.
Thank you.
In reply to Ayenmol
It's not my 'ideal' dickwad. It's the law (at least in Canada).
In reply to SnoopDog
I don't live in Canada...nor does this Woman.
Not too often you see a so-called lawyer who disagrees with a ruling against a giant in favor of a little man particularly in a litigious setting.
Blind hate is a helluva thing.
In reply to Ayenmol
Dollars to donuts that the labour and employment laws in the United States of Dumbfcukingstan are either identical or very similar to those in Canada.
What you should have stated earlier (and because I'm such a fair-minded and nice guy I'll make your own argument for you) is that if you negotiate the terms of the employment contract so that the accommodations for your religious practices are covered and both parties agree to those terms, then the employer is precluded from reneging on those contractual terms by the common law and by legislation.
But you cannot impose your religious practices on a prospective employer who has every right to say (before they hire you) "piss off, there's the door".
In reply to Ayenmol
I don't hate Bro. I tell it like it is.
That tends to upset a lot of people - usually assholes.
In reply to SnoopDog
I do not need you to state anything...I clearly stated that I mentioned this to my employer BEFORE employment!
So you are correcting your own idiotic conclusion!
Or maybe you cant read...
In reply to SnoopDog
Like attempting to assume the Law of a land is same as yours when the entire premise of the discussion is based on the decision of a Court of Law?
Good lawyer you are!
In reply to Ayenmol
Well now you do.
Ummmmm.....hello.
In reply to Ayenmol
That's right!
Generally speaking, I detest clients, but I might like their case (if, and when they have a good case). If they don't have a case I usually give them 1 minute of my time.
In reply to SnoopDog
Ummm... dude, itxs called sarcasm...wow...
You must be a pencil pushing lawyer after all because you sure are dense...
I mentioned this is while I was young...am middle aged now, I have made this clear to every employer... never had an issue.
I decide where I wanna work and who for...the employer decides whether I meet his standards.
I have never forced anyone to hire me based on a law.
True Christians don't play gotcha...which is why you ensure a good fit from the beginning.
Why bother about checking out the employment laws of Canada,for the sake of Allah,get some sense, visit the Halal Snackbar sometimes you would learn something.The only thing about Canada worth knowing is its Geography,who wants to read up about the employment laws of Canada,not even the Canadians.
In reply to Ayenmol
You must be a pencil pushing lawyer after all because you sure are dense...
Sarcasm makes Baby Jesus cry.
In reply to Mulla bin granite
I take it you really enjoyed that ham sandwich.
If you play your cards right I might just send you some of these. They are really popular in Canada too!
In reply to SnoopDog
Apparent that it flew over your head...I told you that I make it clear to my employer what my expectations are...you told me I was crazy and this was unacceptable!
Go figure. Good thing you live in Canada!
I have never sought jobs that require Sunday availability. Also I made it clear that I need whatever evening we Worship and can't work OT on those days, and I have never sought work where night work is required outside of that parameter.
I have seen in my life that whenever i make decisions that put first my resolve to Worship Jehovah, he provides.
My knowledge of the Bible makes it clear to me that succumbing to pressure to do otherwise then try to hold another entity responsible is not something our Creator rewards!
Regardless of secular laws.
Some people think that whenever they get money, it's from God...Judas Iscariot says otherwise.
In reply to Ayenmol
You walked off the job. You ended and terminated the employment contract. You would have gotten dick all from the courts.
No. Your employer provides. Imaginary friends only provide imaginary companionship to the deluded.
In reply to SnoopDog
Like I said, pencil pusher... I had given well over my 8 hrs for the day...ot is not mandatory!
He tried to get me to come back and I declined for various reasons. He tried to do damage control and I was well aware.
When I decided not to return then he tried to use that to prevent me from getting my unemployment he lost! And it ended up costing him more because it was then discovered that he was not paying ot...
The employment office wanted me to pursue the violation, I chose not to.
My friends who remained loved me after that, he now HAD to pay them ot!
His own greed cost him.
We used to work from 5am till 9-10 PM at times!
In reply to granite
That poster- he/she/it has got to be unemployed- he/she spends half the day at CCC and I bet the other half watching porn
One of those who suck the social welfare system of Canada dry and no doubt the type that gives all immigrant Canadian a bad name.
In reply to SnoopDog
Like I said, pencil pusher... I had given well over my 8 hrs for the day...ot is not mandatory!
He tried to get me to come back and I declined for various reasons. He tried to do damage control and I was well aware.
When I decided not to return then he tried to use that to prevent me from getting my unemployment he lost! And it ended up costing him more because it was then discovered that he was not paying ot...
The employment office wanted me to pursue the violation, I chose not to.
My friends who remained loved me after that, he now HAD to pay them ot!
His own greed cost him.
We used to work from 5am till 9-10 PM at times!
But of course, knowing the details, or even assuming there are details you are not aware of, does not occur to you...real lawyer way.
In reply to Ayenmol
The moment you quit - you lost any right you had to sue for your "right to worship" within the context of the employment contract you had with the employer.
You terminated the contract - not him. At best you would have had an argument for constructive dismissal due to the harsh and inhumane working hours (assuming you're telling the truth), but none for "right to worship".
In reply to SnoopDog
You are an idiot...dude you are an idiot...
The greivance was caused by his violation of my right...how I chose to handle it afterward, choosing not to subject myself to the environment is inconsequential.
Choosing to remain, or not with an employer after a breach covered by employment law is not an issue!
In reply to Ayenmol
No ya dummy.
The grievance was caused because the employer opposed your application for unemployment insurance which is a separate matter from your so-called "right to worship" during the employment period.
You wouldn't have had a grievance in the first place if the employer didn't oppose your application for UI.
In reply to SnoopDog
Lol...dude we are talking about right to Worship... or are you actually telling me that I got my unemployment because the unemployment office did'nt know the law?
Gosh, you are moronic. Have a nice day, wanna be lawyer...now I see why you are so angry.
In reply to Ayenmol
Assuming you're telling the truth and giving us all the relevant facts, you got your back pay because he didn't pay you overtime and accrued hours. Here in Canada, if you quit you're not entitled to UI - NONE. I would imagine it's the same in the US.
The compensation you received had sweet fcuk all to do with "right to worship".
In reply to SnoopDog
Something is seriously wrong with you.
Keep imagining then... apparently that's all you lot do.
In reply to Ayenmol
Which State was your case in?
I want to see which gov't will allow people who voluntarily leave their jobs (quit) the right to claim unemployment insurance benefits.
In reply to SnoopDog
Am seriously questioning your knowledge of law at this point...Or your ability to understand how to question someone when seeking discovery material before jumping to conclusions.
But as usual I always feel icky after conversing with you.
In reply to Ayenmol
But as usual I always feel icky after conversing with you.
I'm calling bullshit on your story.
In reply to SnoopDog
Funny non of the American based bullies have opined.
I. Don't. Lie.
I know it's strange to you.
Btw...St. Thomas USVI.
Here's the kicker, I was able to get a job in a different field that was regarded as an apprenticeship, so I was able to collect the difference from what I was gonna get from my unemployment and what I was being paid...my new employer just needed to sign off weekly.
St. Thomas USVI...circa 1996.
Jehovah provides!
In reply to Ayenmol
Here's the kicker, I was able to get a job in a different field that was regarded as an apprenticeship, so I was able to collect the difference from what I was gonna get from my unemployment and what I was being paid...my new employer just needed to sign off weekly.
St. Thomas USVI...circa 1996.
Now I know you're lying. The jig is up asshole.
Unemployment Insurance is designed to provide benefits to eligible persons who are temporarily unemployed through no fault of their own. In all States, employers pay quarterly contributions to cover their workers against involuntary unemployment. Most employers are required to pay contributions. Benefits are funded by these contributions. The amount of benefits payable is intended to cover non-deferrable expenses such as housing, food, clothing, and necessary transportation. No deductions are made from the worker’s wages to finance Unemployment Insurance Benefits. Eligibility for Unemployment Insurance Benefits is based on wages earned not on family financial resources. Unemployment Insurance is not Welfare, Social Security, Workman’s Compensation, or Disability Assistance.
In reply to SnoopDog
Lol...you are just hateful and doubling down on your own ignorance.
Dude the onus on most States is on the employer. When I moved to Missouri i drove Truck for an interim because i love the road...i became tired of the employer and could not fulfill my obligations spiritually.
Once i came home, and stayed for a week, ignoring calls from my employer, i was naturally let go...filed for unemployment.
That one the employer had a real leg to stand on...it took me a while, and some back and forth with the arbitrator, but eventually i won...
Ended up going to college (well community College) on Uncle Sam's dime, while collecting unemployment, (so i did not have to search for work) and even got to keep the excess money from the grant that was more than the cost of the Course.
Unemployment office dude...you have no idea what American job initiatives are just there for the taking.
In reply to Ayenmol
A:
B:
Would you like to make an election as to which story is the true? "A" or "B"?
In reply to Ayenmol
You're partly correct.
I fcuking detest liars like you for clients but love liars in the witness box when I'm cross examining.
In reply to SnoopDog
Both...the first was not the employer but the loud mouth super.
Here's the full story. We were a group of 5. We were trained by a brother who moved his business to st Croix and took a few young guys from Witness families.
I was one of the last to join and had a slight fear of heights, so I operated the panel machine. But we were a close bunch, more loyal to each other.
When a hurricane hit St. THOMAS the brother did not want to move there so another competitor who who was skilled in rubber roofing decided to bid on some huge projects that wanted metal roofs, specifically Standing Seam.
So he went to the eldest of us and made a pitch for $20/hr if all of us if we would join him...
He had a guy who worked with him and was his right hand man/super, but knew nothing of metal roofing.
He even flew us to Anguilla once to build a metal building from scratch for his friend...was a blast.
He would bid these jobs, undercut everyone else, pay us a huge hourly that made our eyes googly at that time, not pay it, knock out the jobs quickly and pocket a fortune...on out biggest job we would work from 4am till midnight sometimes till 1 to 2am...we were young, we made great money mostly because we were doing 2 weeks work in one week!
I was able to get time of for my worship, but the other guys were not as dedicated and let the money get to them. So I was the bad example that made them uncomfortable so they kept giving me ultimatums. We were well past that first job when things got bad and they said if I left that night I could not come back.
So I did...
Things changed drastically after that...to the point that the eldest guy became an contractor and he would pay him and he'd be responsible for paying the rest.
One stipulation of him helping my friend set up his own Company was he could not hire me back in his team...it put a serious strain on the group, and most of the others left after a year or so. Two of us ended up in Ny.
So it was not that I just walked of the job, I simply refused to work past the agreed upon time, against threats of dismissal.
Granted we all lived on a compound he owned so next day they told me to pack up and get out...they thought I'd be intimidated. When it was apparent that I had made up my mind he came and tried to patch things over...I said sorry. Hostile environment etc. Then he promised I could not get unemployment.
Proved him wrong.
Hateful people...the arbitrator saw it too, they took it more personal than I even did.
Nowadays it's not as personal...but when you are dealing with arbitrators? Your honesty and vulnerability goes a long way...they lean heavy to the Public over employers.
In reply to Ayenmol
Ok ok ok. I'll go light on you.
I get it that the employer in USVI stiffed you for overtime and extra hours. And for that you were rightly and justly compensated for what was owed under legislation anyway.
But there is nowhere on planet Earth or Mars where you'll receive unemployment insurance where you (the employee) walked off the job and quit as you claim you did.
Anyways, my work here is done. Another liar got his pants caught on fire. "Clerk, prepare a bill and send it out".
In reply to SnoopDog
Dude, I have never been denied unemployment. I left working for an International Bank after 5 years, and filed for unemployment and got it!
They just never fought it....plus my old manager loved me...when you are a good worker? Employers dont fight it. Like I said even the trucking Company ended up paying...they fought it hard too...which is natural for that industry due to turnover.
In reply to SnoopDog
I'll try anything.
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