HEADLINE: West Indies captain Jason Holder suspended for St Lucia Test

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link CaribbeanCricket.com Joined: Mar 6, 2003
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2/3/19 11:50:53 AM 

West Indies will be without their captain, Jason Holder, for the third Test of the series against England after the ICC suspended him.

Holder was held responsible for his team's slow over rate during the win in Antigua. West Indies wrapped up the three-match series with a second successive win - this time by 10 wickets - within three days in Antigua. They won the first Test in Barbados by 381 runs within four days.

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link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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2/3/19 12:05:01 PM 
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Shucks

sad

link sunfish Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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2/3/19 12:08:15 PM 
This is a harsh rule that should be shelved. Now we are faced with the lifeless Braithwaite leading the team in St Lucia. England will win this one.

link conman Joined: Oct 12, 2011
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2/3/19 12:12:35 PM 
This needs to be addressed by the coaching staff. Jason for all his talent still has too much on his plate. And this will keep happening.

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: Jun 1, 2005
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2/3/19 12:15:26 PM 
In reply to conman

As long as you got a 4 prong it will happen

link mikesiva Joined: Jan 12, 2007
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2/3/19 12:20:28 PM 
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Yes, this stupid ICC rule discriminates against teams that pick four genuine fast bowlers.

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 22, 2015
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2/3/19 2:13:16 PM 
This is the craziest thing I have ever heard. I was just waiting for the English or the ICC or some other cricketing body not happy with WI recent success to uncover some type of negative reaction.
The real objective now is to totally demoralize 'ol England in the third test.

link methodic Joined: Jan 18, 2010
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2/3/19 2:18:53 PM 
In reply to mikesiva

how much overs they want in an hour

link tomm47e Joined: Jan 26, 2019
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2/3/19 2:21:51 PM 
Really sorry to hear this, not a fan of the ICC generally and this seems exceedingly harsh, given the conditions. Is there any appeal?

I cannot imagine it will lessen the resolve of the Windies next test though, and nor should it.

link allan Joined: Feb 9, 2003
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2/3/19 2:26:21 PM 
In reply to methodic

15 overs a hour, 30 per session... 90 for the day... so some lappy spinner is being forced to play..
However for the final test, lets play Oshane Thomas instead of Holder..

link POINT Joined: Jan 2, 2003
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2/3/19 3:13:36 PM 
NEVER EVER UNDERESTIMATE THE

PROPENSITY OF THE ENGLISH TO DELVE IN

CHICANERY .


I AM NOT SURPRISED ; WHEN ENGLAND

DECIDED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF

OVERSEAS PLAYERS PLAYING CRICKET IN

ENGLAND ; THAT DECISION WAS AIMED

MAINLY TO OUR PLAYERS , WHO IN THOSE

DAYS DOMINATED INTERNATIONAL CRICKET

DESPITE THE FACT THAT IN THE REGION

WE HAD NO REGIONAL CRICKET LEAGUE .


ENGLAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE

FOREFRONT OF ALL INTERNATIONAL

CRICKET INTRIGUES .


WHO HAD THE FASTEST BOWLERS IN THE

WORLD WHEN IT WAS DECIDED TO

INTRODUCE THE ONE BOUNCER PER OVER

RULE ?????

ONE THING WE NO FOR SURE IT WAS NOT

OUR CRICKET BOARD .

link bobby Joined: Feb 14, 2003
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2/3/19 3:20:19 PM 
This Test Match ended in 3 days so obviously the rule needs to be amended.

link dayne Joined: May 29, 2007
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2/3/19 3:36:16 PM 
IMO this rule was manufactured to counteract the dominate days of the WI when they were playing four fast bowlers in their Test matches.

link netgrouchy Joined: Nov 23, 2003
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2/3/19 3:51:15 PM 
The irony of it all: A captain is banned for SLOW OVER RATE when he managed to wrap up a 5-day test match in THREE days!!!!! Hilarious but freaking dumb rule!!!!!! They should beat the crap out of England in St.Lucia.

link openning Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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2/3/19 3:54:19 PM 
This is not the first time a captain has been suspended for slow over rate.
Sometimes we want to play the blame game, the management team should had been aware of this, during the match.
BTW, Jason should have known prior to this match, how close he was to being suspended.

link Sylobeauty Joined: Mar 21, 2018
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2/3/19 4:05:33 PM 
No, Jason Holder is suspended for causing West Indies to embarrass England in two consecutives games, by 381 runs in Barbados and followed it up wit almost an inning defeat in Antigua. ICC is really controlled by England, Australia and South Africa so they have to react when they see us on a rise. If anything, it is ICC that ought to pay us back for only 2.5 days of cricket when we paid or subscribed to 5 days. If the game ended in a draw and they wanted to blame Holder, I would probably understand. But we embarrassed them in less than two days, in essence with almost 200 overs to spare man. That's hogwash!

link Khaga Joined: Mar 29, 2016
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2/3/19 4:09:59 PM 
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lol

SA?

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2/3/19 4:22:03 PM 
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Khaka trying to tell you bout him peeps and how dem tan, but unnu nah listen, and is ungle pink people unnu a watch and worry bout. lol

link Sylobeauty Joined: Mar 21, 2018
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2/3/19 4:28:23 PM 
Is that ICC way of trying to help England win a game? But tell them they wrong because the English batsmen are scared of fast bowling and therefore the suspension of JH will only cause more embarrassment to them because that will just create an opportunity for our FASTEST bowler Oshan Thomas, to bounce them out! How dare you suspend JH for slow over rate when we bowled out England just after Tea on the first day, with so bad calls had to be reviewed and in the 2nd inning we bowled them out between lunch and tea, with again poor umpire decisions against us had to be reviewed? ICC stands for Island Cricket Crusher. They just want to crush us

link Sylobeauty Joined: Mar 21, 2018
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2/3/19 5:03:13 PM 
In the 70's when Lance Gibbs became a force with the ball, ICC quickly changed rules to limit the amount of fielders behind the bat.

When our fast bowlers were bouncing out their batsmen, ICC quickly came with laws to limit the amount of bouncers bowled in an over

After Jermaine Lawson went through Australia and terrorized them with pace, ICC banned him.

ICC is there to help protect England, Australia and India, while they do everything within their power to ensure that we don't rule cricket again

link Ewart Joined: Mar 5, 2005
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2/3/19 5:13:40 PM 
And do not forget that it was after Alfred Valentine bamboozled them (7 for 127 2nd Test 1950 Lords) with his leg-breaks that they installed the rule about balls pitched outside leg cannot get you lbw.

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link Baje Joined: Dec 10, 2002
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2/3/19 6:12:14 PM 
In reply to allan
15 overs a hour, 30 per session... 90 for the day... so some lappy spinner is being forced to play..
However for the final test, lets play Oshane Thomas instead of Holder..

So which one was violated hour/session/day

link uton Joined: Mar 4, 2003
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2/3/19 6:17:03 PM 
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Easy solution to get around this in the future, give the "figure-head" captaincy to the most expendable or weakest link to shield your critical or least expendable players from being sanctioned.

link Baje Joined: Dec 10, 2002
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2/3/19 6:19:15 PM 
In reply to uton
Then we will be fined for "not in the spiit of the game"

link carl0002 Joined: Apr 16, 2003
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2/3/19 6:28:57 PM 
I think we have pondered this question before, how can you be charged for slow over rate when you win the match inside 3 days for a 5 day test. It seems illogical and the suspension for a game seems rather harsh as opposed to just a fine. smh

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