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Pace like Fyah young man.

In reply to WI_cricfan

Cric-fan...that bai look like he gon make Ravi Rampaul look 'thin' LOL.

This chap have LAZY written all over him.

Where is natty_forever?

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Thomas is a little too heavy

In reply to crapaud

Apart from being heavy, can you tell us anything about his bowling and previous performances.

Whilst I think Thomas is very much the unfinished product, what I am pleased to see is that he is still able to generate 140k+ pace after his initial spell.

That's one of a few questions he needs to answer.

In reply to JoeGrine

140+ pace is now par for the course...worldwide the quicks are cranking that up regularly. He has to do something a bit differently. Seems like he has a ways to go in developing his game.

Y'all know Thomas is a very young bloke, right?

In reply to XDFIX

All the more reason for him to be fit.

In reply to runout

In which part of the world is "140+ pace is now par for the course...worldwide"?

ENG - Wood
AUS - Cummings, Starc
IND - Bumrah
NZ - Ferguson (maybe)
PAK
SL
BANG
WI - Thomas

On this board the cry has been that Thomas cannot maintain 140k on 2nd spell. I merely said he answered that question today.

I repeat, he is the unfinished product.

With roach out who do we turn to next I hope is not that guy that pulls out the notbook

Why isnt OT focusing more on control? Line & length?

yet many here wanted him in the test XI over Paul.

look Oshane Thomas is not a test bowler, he's not an ODI bowler YET ! He's a decent T20 bowler FULL STOP !

Need to get fit, need to drop 20lbs, need some serious coaching. If he put in the work and buss his butt he might become a decent test bowler, MAYBE.....

In reply to LBW375

True. Some said holder wouldnt be much either. But look where hard work got him. Give the young man encouragement. 140k + is nothing to sneeze at. He will learn.

In reply to dale_staple So, WTF is the coaching dept doing?

In reply to dale_staple

Holder has been improving from the U13 level, I remember Andrian Barath commenting on him, after they last regional U19 tournament.
If we follow players from the junior level to the regional, we will see the improvement of the player.
I for one knows nothing about Thomas, and what I've seen, he should be working at the club level in Jamaica.

In reply to LBW375

express bowlers are better at test with the bigger outfield, the slower bowler with more control for limited overs.

England would've murdered him

In reply to camos

Is that your final theory?

I guess Kemar is a shytehound at test cricket.

So many people here are quick to judge Thomas but look at Gabriel when he started he was not fit he couldn't not even present a straight seam for years all Thomas needs is more games both at test and the regional level this was a batting pitch and Paul is not in the same class as Thomas.

In reply to JoeGrine

Yeah that's what they all have been saying I Know they're not cricketers no one likes pace like that.

In reply to BeatDball

You can lead a cow to the pond but you can't make it drink.

In reply to BeatDball

You think you cam change years of muscle memory in a few months?

Thomas need to hire Gabriel personal trainer...

Wonder if he willing to put in the hard work like Gabriel though

ALTHOUGH Oshane is young and has pace he is still green.

What got me angry is that the selectors ignored good developing bowlers like McCoy and a wicket taker like Cottrell.

In my opinion WI best ODI pacers are

Paul ave 45.27 econ 5.88
Roach 114 wickets @ 29.05 in WI: 26.39 Econ 4.63
McCoy 2 matches @ 27.25
Cottrell ave 33.62

...going back for Carlos who remains a change bowler and retaining Oshane because of his pace is not the answer.

In reply to JoeGrine

An unfinished product should not be playing, it took the Angel 6 years to become a finish product.

In reply to TheTrail

These guys like to cover for their hommie,Shane is not ready, did you see how long it took for the Angel to become a bowler.

let him play T20

In reply to tc1

On debut, his pace like fire was for one over. I remember his first over was around 149km and after that, he was down to 120km.

A friend told me he went to the bounder after that over and he was panting like my granny black belly sheep, begging for water.

Thanks to Bish and Collymore for giving him some tips on fast bowling. He has improved tremendously. Seam up...

In reply to JoeGrine

Ferguson is the quickest around. He’s always close to 150.

OT is very pacy but lack control..he was fast track into the west Indies team because of his pace and his first class and list A stats shows that he doesn't deserve a spot on the west Indies odi and test team..he is talented never the less and the bowling coaches need to work with him for improvement.. when OT start getting regional batsmen out and his economy rate down then he is ready for windies,ATM he is not as his list A average is 39 and his economy rate is 7, that tells me is is getting a trashing from the local lads so why expect better vs international batsmen? we should expect him to get more licks from quality batsmen and that is exactly what he is getting as the stats shows. Right now he is selected because of raw pace and you can be the fastest bowler, as long as your lines are wrong u will go the distance.

Let me put things right,according to Mr.Browne,it is important for Thomas to "look good"pon de Telly,isn't that what got Rampaul dropped...nothing to do with his bowling.

In reply to tc1

I can agree with that, especially given that nowhere did I advocate for him playing!

In reply to openning… Natty never said that now did I? I am just excited by the prospect and saw him using his BRAIN to get people out, one for the future DEFINITELY! And did HOLDING shine his first time of asking?

In reply to tc1… However, he was played until he came good, no? And as far as I am concerned OT way a head of the Angel at this stage. And you know Natty not one a those homie no matter what!

In reply to Devvvvvvv

… same could have been said for the Angel. Mr. Browne knows you caan teach pace, but control and all that can be taught.

In reply to natty_forever

Tell them Natty far ahead it took Gabriel years to just learn to present a straight seam so I don't see all the hate for a guy with as little experience as he have this was a batting pitch with little help for fast bowlers.

When you find exceptional talent you don't waste time with them at local level get them in as fast as possible and see what you need to work on. How often you will get guys like this coming through every 10 years or more.

In reply to Spoilt101… and who to tell if Nurse had taken that chance.

In reply to natty_forever
The guy have potential but he have a long way to go as far as learning tricks is concern. He should have known the change of pace trick by now tho.. right now all he does is run up and try to bowl as fast as he can.. I say next 2 to 3 years oshane will be our go to bowler.

In reply to Devvvvvvv …

I disagree. … and like Gabriel we will play him til he does.

In reply to natty_forever

Aite sir..but remember he is no bajan, one more beatdown in this series like yesterday and he will be having a long break from odi cricket especially if the other guys(fast bowlers with tricks) recover from their injuries soon.

In reply to natty_forever

People keep bringing Holding up.
Fans in the yard knew the ability of Holding, from playing at every level.
That is the difference between selecting solely base on potential, and selecting a youngster from watching his growth, thru the system.

In reply to natty_forever

Could have been a different outcome altogether I don't know what these people want Natty some bowlers where people bat until they have enough before they decided to start taking risk and get out or someone who can make actually get people out.