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HEADLINE: Spin threat - the missing link in Windies' jigsaw puzzle
CaribbeanCricket.com
Feb 28, 2019, 1:41:46 AM
It is the nightmare scenario doing the rounds in ODI cricket right now, the one no team wants to find themselves in. Bowling to this England batting line-up in the last ten overs of their innings when they have wickets in hand. It's not a job for the feint hearted. Hell, it's not even a job for the toughest of souls. More often than not, it's a situation which leads to serious punishment and in Grenada, it was West Indies' turn to suffer.
England were three wickets down at the end of the 40th over. Captain Eoin Morgan and Jos Buttler were well set and ready to tee off which the tourists did to the tune of 154 runs in the last ten overs. It was the most runs England have ever scored in the final sixty balls of an ODI innings, beating the 135 they managed against Pakistan at Trent Bridge in 2016 on the way to a world-record total of 444.
According to CricViz, over the last four years, England's average run rate in the last ten overs is 8.26, the fastest in the world, so this performance wasn't much of a surprise. It's just what they do. In the same period, West Indies have conceded nearly eight runs an over with the ball at the death, the second worst of any side who has qualified for the World Cup. It's just what they do, too. And at St George's, it wasn't hard to see why.
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InHindsight
Feb 28, 2019, 1:55:18 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Oh how West Indies needs a good leggie for the ODIs at least.
Narine not a leggie continue to disappoint me. I have my questions about whether he has any interest to play for WI.
Controversial comment: It is attitudes like his that legitimizes(in his own eyes at least) the heavy handedness of Wycliffe Dave Cameron
Emir
Feb 28, 2019, 2:33:50 AM
In reply to InHindsight
It is attitudes like his that legitimizes(in his own eyes at least) the heavy handedness of Wycliffe Dave Cameron
Assuming your question is sincere, and I still remain shocked one will asked a question like this, let me say, it is actually the other way around.
The CWI/WICBC is an organization that still see players as workers and themselves as rulers in the classical massa style- it remains the only organization in the region that is accountable to none and have flirted the laws of every region.
They have a long and proven history of mistreating players, so the lack of confidence and trust by players is real. It is why so many players over the years cannot trust the WICBC/CWI framework. It remains the most secretive, dictatorial, inefficient, ineffective and disorganized entity in the region.
And this isn't only about Cameron- his name props up as he is the head, but the entire system inclusive of the regional boards.
InHindsight
Feb 28, 2019, 2:44:48 AM
In reply to Emir
Emir I have a very similar concept of current CWI (structure) as you do
Probably where we may not agree so much is that I hold players as well ( those in the era if the advent of T20 leagues) responsible for their part in the (note well) state of WI cricket.
Some of these guys were/are a talented bunch.
If you read any of my post s you will see that my issue is first and foremost with the Structure of WI.
I issue with Cameron for:
His autocratic style
His pride and arrogance
For his hardline approach with players mentioned above
Refusal to accept and see the need for a changed system
Yamfoot
Feb 28, 2019, 3:35:41 AM
So, which spinner would you play?
InHindsight
Feb 28, 2019, 3:57:56 AM
In reply to Yamfoot
Tough one to answer. I'd see if Narine becomes available or relunctanty stick with Bishoo
conman
Feb 28, 2019, 4:00:26 AM
In reply to Yamfoot
khary pierre
deanjones
Feb 28, 2019, 4:01:06 AM
Discourse
Feb 28, 2019, 4:18:02 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
England were three wickets down at the end of the 40th over.
After 40 overs:
Eng: 264/3
WI: 324/6
What a pity, yep, I guess wickets in hand did the trick
InHindsight
Feb 28, 2019, 4:30:23 AM
In reply to conman
To late too close to the WC. He didn't meet the grade on his first stint
conman
Feb 28, 2019, 4:34:11 AM
In reply to InHindsight
Bishoo, ostensibly an attacking bowler in the team to make breakthroughs, averages 42 with the ball in ODI cricket and has taken just 15 wickets in his last 27 matches at an average north of 75.
There is no way bishoo should be going to the world cup, it really is the equivalent of fielding 10 players
InHindsight
Feb 28, 2019, 4:38:23 AM
In reply to conman
Yamfoot
Feb 28, 2019, 5:29:03 AM
But think about the pitches in England. That is where we should be focussing, if we want to put together a team which can compete. That is one of the things Chris Gayle mentioned in his post match interview.
conman
Feb 28, 2019, 5:34:50 AM
In reply to Yamfoot
with that in mind, we best not take bishoo to england
XDFIX
Feb 28, 2019, 3:08:24 PM
In reply to Emir
Emir that's crap and you know it! The bottomline is money and everyman must sing for his supper but it's the piper who calls the tune
Moreover money makes the mere gallop especially for millennial
dayne
Feb 28, 2019, 3:39:25 PM
Bishoo would be useless in England, he was useless in the Test matches in England a summer ago. They should just select Nurse and replace Bishoo with Pierra or Paul