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Ethiopian Airlines crash

 
nitro 2019-03-10 06:01:08 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ethiopian-airlines-passenger-jet-crashes-with-more-than-150-aboard-reports-say

 
Chrissy 2019-03-10 06:25:07 

Too sad cry

 
Drapsey 2019-03-10 08:31:58 

In reply to nitro

Airbus again?

 
Chrissy 2019-03-10 08:41:22 

In reply to Drapsey

Not Airbus - Boeing - same new aircraft as the Lionair that crashed and killed everyone in Indonesia last year.
These aircraft should be recalled.

 
black 2019-03-10 09:25:01 

In reply to Chrissy


These aircraft should be recalled.


Do you know what caused the crash?

 
Runs 2019-03-10 09:45:58 

Boeing 737-Max - new make, one crashed in Java sea a few months ago
RIP

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2019-03-10 10:24:59 

In reply to black

Do you know what caused the crash?



Yes, she did the FMEA by listening to the nitro side of her brain and the echoes of her fart.

Clearly a recall!


Ref. pitch bussying is not engineering...

 
Larr Pullo 2019-03-10 10:53:12 

Really sad, I’ve flown this route many times by myself and with colleagues. Waiting to hear if anyone I know was on that flight. RIP to all and sympathies to all those affected. cry cry

 
nitro 2019-03-10 11:18:13 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Sad indeed. I hate taking flights and yes they do not happen very often. When they do however they take out more lives than some countries/states experience in motor vehicle accidents for a year.

 
bravos 2019-03-10 11:24:07 

Dammit what's up with the max? Stall recovery software MCAS glitch,human error,terrorism,sabotage ?..let's wait and see..

CAL suppose to be getting 12 of these soon..

RIP cry

 
Oilah 2019-03-10 11:28:47 

cry

 
bravos 2019-03-10 12:25:07 

In reply to Larr Pullo


The West and others got hit hard too..


Casualty nationalities ex- BBC Africa service et al

32 Kenyan

18 Canadian

8 Chinese

8 Italian

8 American

7 French

7 British

6 Egyptian

5 Dutch

4 UN passports

4 Indian

3 Russian

2 Moroccan

2 Israeli

1 Belgian

1 Ugandan

1 Yemeni

1 Sudanese

1 Togolese

1 Mozambican

1 Norwegian


 
pelon 2019-03-10 12:49:40 

Very tragic, sad. RIP

 
DirtyDan 2019-03-10 19:42:57 

Here's a good article on this plane from CBC Canada. Link Text

 
Chrissy 2019-03-10 21:41:55 

In reply to DirtyDan

Was just going to post that

A jetliner carrying 157 people crashed shortly after takeoff from the Ethiopian capital Sunday, killing everyone aboard and carving a crater into the ground, authorities said. At least 35 nationalities were among the dead, including 18 Canadians.

It was not clear what caused the Ethiopian Airlines plane to go down in clear weather. The accident was strikingly similar to last year's crash of a Lion Air jet that plunged into the Java Sea, killing 189 people. Both crashes involved the Boeing 737 MAX 8, and both happened minutes after the jets became airborne.

 
Runs 2019-03-11 19:16:50 

Brampton family perishes in crash

Link Text

 
Narper 2019-03-11 19:46:17 

In reply to Runs

Sad sad....saw the family on TV news at 6.00 pm

 
Chrissy 2019-03-11 21:57:56 

In reply to Narper

Too sad

 
Trinidave 2019-03-11 22:18:54 

Awful. Those planes seem to have a stalling problem.

 
steveo 2019-03-12 04:50:21 

An informed poster at another site says

The issue here is that Boeing used new more economical engines, which are bigger. They did not fit under the wing where engines used to be so Boeing moved them forward. That introduced very undesirable flight characteristics such as a sudden departure stall and similar. Basically, under certain conditions, the airplane becomes unstable and hard to fly. Boeing "fixed" this problem using software that is supposedly never allows the airplane to get into those dangerous conditions. That software fails to address all the situations. Also, as with any software, it can't reliably work when sensors are faulty.
That was a simplified version, mind you. The bottom line is that the airplane was intentionally made less safe to save money. It is not fixable. We'll have to accept the aditional risk.

 
mikesiva 2019-03-12 05:44:26 

In reply to steveo

So maybe these aircraft should be recalled.
cool

 
steveo 2019-03-12 08:18:44 

In reply to mikesiva

I know I wont be flying on one, they are using software to compensate for a flaw in design AND MOST IMPORTANTLY which overrides the pilots input

 
nitro 2019-03-12 08:30:39 

In reply to steveo

So they accept there is a flaw. They need to recall them.

 
steveo 2019-03-12 08:33:18 

In reply to nitro

Well u know big business, if the politicians allow them to endanger lives and profit, why should they care

Boeing is also a major defense contractor, I expect kid gloves and empty words

 
Runs 2019-03-12 09:00:37 

Tests for new aircraft

Link Text

 
Tryangle 2019-03-12 09:34:14 

A guy working here lost his wife, son, two daughters and mother-in-law. Heartbreaking.

 
SnoopDog 2019-03-12 10:18:36 

In reply to Tryangle

Absolutely tragic and heart breaking.

One of my colleagues always tells me she gets uneasy every time she flies together with her husband and 2 children.

 
Runs 2019-03-12 10:40:56 

From the Stable Genius

"Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!" lol

 
SnoopDog 2019-03-12 10:45:20 

In reply to Runs

"Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!"


Is there an english translation for this? Most of us (maj the vaj the exception) don't speak Dotardese. lol