But why is CWI resisting restructuring?

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link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 9:12:16 AM 
The answer is obvious. Restructuring will devolve power away from the selfish, power hungry directors who control CWI resources without having not a single individual penny invested directly into the entity.

And why have they hijacked CWI if they do not benefit from any investments of their own into the entity? I am left to wonder that there must be some latent benefits arising out of this iron grip arrangement? I believe in the world of deals it is called perks and more.

On the other hand, this must be one hell of a sacrifice if they give up of their time and stomach all kinds of abuse in public if there is nothing in it for them. I salute the CWI directors if this is actually the case.

At least to mitigate against any potential long term abuse of the system, Skerritt/Shallow are planning to introduce term limits.

And CWI thus far have been allowed to resist restructuring without advancing one single reason for their opposition to the new recommended arrangements.

I believe it is incumbent on the current occupants of the directorship of CWI to tell us why are they resisting restructuring?

The resources of the CWI do not belong to he directors. They have invested nada.

link sudden Joined: Nov 27, 2006
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3/14/19 9:27:24 AM 
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everybody loves power and hates to give it up

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 9:35:48 AM 
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Yep...but that power should come from a representative group of people if you are not investing your own dollars into the entity.

When your mandate to govern comes from twelve persons who are not a representative body and own little of the resources, then the process is flawed - the tax payers are short changed.

CWI is a quasi- private entity that provides a public good using quite a bit of governments' resources and investments. The current exclusionary mgt arrangement within CWI cannot be right.

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3/14/19 9:56:20 AM 
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sounds like how politics work too ent?

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 9:59:07 AM 
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Yep it's CWI politics...but more akin to Russian politics when it should be more closely linked to participatory democracy.

link JOJO Joined: Jan 29, 2003
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3/14/19 10:27:26 AM 
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CWI is a quasi- private entity that provides a public good using quite a bit of governments' resources and investments


Firstly, how the heck did cricket—west indies cricket—become a public good?

Secondly, how is the use of resources by CWI different from the use by Sandals? When Sandals builds a hotel in the islands, it receives the benefits of new roads or an improved road network, water, electricity network; the airport is improved to accommodate Sandals guests. The country undertakes advertising overseas to encourage visitors to visit...and stay at Sandals properties. In addition...Sandals gets generous tax concessions and tax holidays. Do we ever ask why is Sandals receiving so many concessions? (BTW, we should!).

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 10:33:01 AM 
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How many jobs has CWI generated in the Caribbean as compared to Sandals? This is a vacuous debate...great rhetoric, no substance.

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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3/14/19 10:35:15 AM 
nice cost benefit analysis discussion! keep it going guys.

link JOJO Joined: Jan 29, 2003
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3/14/19 10:39:52 AM 
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How many jobs CWI generate in the Caribbean as compared to Sandals. This is a vacuous debate...great rhetoric no substance.


(I will stay away from the smart-ass rebuttals...for now).

Compare the use of resources of CWI and Sandals.

Compare the benefits derived by each. Compare the benefits to the economies, generated by each.

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 10:42:11 AM 
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Take win with your comparative analyssis. CWI is more important to the economies of these islands as compared to CWI.

Don't bother to respond. I shall no longer dignify your stupidity with a response.

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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3/14/19 10:46:54 AM 
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Among other reasons there are those who are insecure about the 'smaller islands' of the region. Simplistic an explanation this may be, but true. See the widespread comments on this MB hiding behind pseudonyms. I recall the days when it was hard for one of these so-called dotties to make it into a West Indies team. In some cases unjustifiably so.

Administratively, and only recently, you will recall the disparagement meted at Hilaire and Hunte. Now the voices have gone weak, despite the glaringly obvious. Restructuring - the clarion call to replace this institution (cricket) back where it belongs in Caribbean folklore

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 10:49:39 AM 
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I have posited from the early that the haste to remove H&H was never about cricket. I am on record as saying this here...but we digress.

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3/14/19 10:49:42 AM 
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Now the voices have gone weak,
… because we hoarse, not because we no longer disgusted.

link JOJO Joined: Jan 29, 2003
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3/14/19 10:52:39 AM 
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Don't bother to respond. I shall no longer dignify your stupidity.


Ohh...I will! big grin big grin

Typical reaction of an ass who realizes that he has been cornered in discussion. big grin big grin


Now go do a proper analysis of the benefits, etc. and whilst you’re at it, read up on public good.

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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3/14/19 10:53:28 AM 
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Firstly, how the heck did cricket—west indies cricket—become a public good?


In this case governments should not assist with stadia, there should be no television rights sold and purchased and tickets as well.

You should be showing little if any interest on this MB

link JOJO Joined: Jan 29, 2003
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3/14/19 10:57:17 AM 
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should be no television rights sold and purchased and tickets as well.


Okay. I will give you the same advice I give to the op above. Go read up on a public good.

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 11:02:57 AM 
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The guy has absolutely no idea what public good entails...shun him.

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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3/14/19 11:05:54 AM 
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Are you blind to see that without the input of the regional governments this institution which represents us as a region is feeble at best. Despite, either way its a public good

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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3/14/19 11:06:55 AM 
In reply to Courtesy

The guy has absolutely no idea what public good entails...shun him.


I rest my case big grin

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 11:07:55 AM 
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lol lol lol

link JOJO Joined: Jan 29, 2003
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3/14/19 11:07:59 AM 
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The guy has absolutely no idea what public good entails...shun him


One thing I remember about you on this MB is that you were attempting to advise Dukes on the use of a stethoscope. Dukes was quite subdued in his reaction. I think I shall do the same. Goodbye.

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 28, 2003
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3/14/19 11:08:04 AM 
Jury is out.

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/14/19 11:10:27 AM 
...stephoscope.

Steph Curry will be proud he got a mention on a cricket site.

big grin

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3/14/19 11:10:59 AM 
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Didn’t the Hunte and Hilaire administration also refuse to restructure the then WICB?

Why wasn’t the lead question asked then?

link sudden Joined: Nov 27, 2006
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3/14/19 11:13:29 AM 
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the whining will never stop

the whining will never stop

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