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See why I can't take Church seriously these days

 
problemjay 2019-03-22 20:02:46 

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Steupse https://tinyurl.com/y6656jbs

 
black 2019-03-22 20:09:02 

In reply to problemjay

Just Stupid.

First it was buck and now it's suck. lol

 
bravos 2019-03-22 21:12:56 

In reply to black

A useful demon. twisted




See why I can't take Church seriously these days


*awaits Ayenmol..

 
Drapsey 2019-03-23 08:14:58 

In reply to bravos

Ayenmol subscribes to Kingdom Hall, not Church. cool

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-23 08:28:07 

In reply to Drapsey

Thank you....there is a difference.

Huge difference.

 
Avatar 2019-03-23 09:12:18 

In reply to problemjay

Go to a real Church bro
Visit your nearest Seventh Day Adventist church
You will receive a blessing from the Lord!!!

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-23 09:19:19 

What happens at a Kingdom Hall.


Every of the thousands of Kingdom Halls in 230 lands teach the exact same thing during every week!

 
Emir 2019-03-23 09:28:01 

In reply to Drapsey

Ayenmol subscribes to Kingdom Hall, not Church.


But every Christian church claim their version or sect is better or the correct teachings. So who to believe?

There are so many core and fundamental differences between say a Jehova Witness and a Catholic, how to you consolidate it?

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-23 10:00:10 

In reply to Emir

A scriptural view

 
bravos 2019-03-23 10:04:37 

Hmmmmmmm...

 
sgtdjones 2019-03-23 10:15:40 

In reply to problemjay

You are a very religious individual what happened?

PJ cant take Growley seriously, now religion.

Listening to too much soca, ah tell ya.



lol lol lol

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2019-03-23 10:59:39 

In reply to sgtdjones

HBD

how old are you? how much do you weigh? (weight in stones)

 
Emir 2019-03-23 11:02:23 

In reply to bravos

big grin

 
problemjay 2019-03-23 12:43:42 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

dais ah lil youth man in the public library in Canada

 
sgtdjones 2019-03-23 14:27:10 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

tenks, had a great birthday on March 21st. Still
sobering up.

Lets put it dis way I am not a small dude,
not as old as PJ, he teeth falling out already.
Not as short as bravos, he would be looking way up at moi?
A lil better looking than cussbud (WestDem)

razz razz razz

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-23 21:13:16 

How many "churches" come to your home and personally teach you from the Bible where you can examine, review, question, disagree without the hype and pressure of
a group?

How did Jesus and his disciples preach?

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-23 21:17:56 

Here's a challenge...

Go to any church/churches. Formulate a Bible or even life question. Ask a lay person in the church, then ask the pastor.

Go to as many as you like. Note heir discussions, how they receive you etc.

Then go to a Kingdom Hall and do the same.

Compare the results.

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2019-03-23 21:30:01 

In reply to Ayenmol

Happy birthday Officer Ayenmol.

oh you bearded one, please donate blood after your vacation driving your 2 door car

Good luck in all that u do wink

 
Kay 2019-03-23 23:01:59 

What happens at a Kingdom Hall

 
black 2019-03-23 23:47:08 

In reply to Kay

I knew those people were full of BS. People that abuse children are not likely to have witnesses.

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-24 00:22:42 

In reply to Kay

Sexual abuse is an epidemic in all walks of life... Religious or otherwise.

There are some truthful and some very untruthful allegations made.

There's a difference between confidentiality and harboring. Religion is not a police organization.

Nice that they actually state the scriptures that clearly show how accusations sjould be dealt with then proceed to show that is exactly what is done.

However there is no strict rule that there has to be 2 witnesses. If a story is credible and details are accurate then action is taken.

Finally...to show the contradictory nature of the ad for business consider this...they claim that the Legal dept is notified of these occurrences...then this..

Failure to follow the directions of congregation Elders can result in a member being disfellowshipped from the Society and having all contact with family members and friends who are JW’s cut off.


Then this...
She brought her complaints to the JW’s internal judicial committee. Although the Elder that abused her was expelled from the congregation, he was not disfellowshipped and joined another JW congregation.


There is no such thing as expulsion...you are either disfellowshipped or you are not.

If you are disfellowshipped you are no longer a part of the congregation, none of the congregations!

So yes. We keep things confidential. We also do not condone ANY acts that violate God's laws!

When someone is accussed it is handled scripturally. No accusation goes unheard!

But don't expect the laws protecting the accused to be taken lightly either.

Or that we would violate anyone's trust before a determination of guilt is made.

Also, no one get's disciplined for going to the authorities. Except those who sit on the committees because they are entrusted with a specific responsibility.

Also i saw where it said that an individual who abused one child was entrusted with another...Jehovah's Witnesses do not entrust anyone with anyone.

We do not have preschools. Elders have nothing to do with kids beyond the group setting. So most of these may be between family members.
What happens at people's homes are not supervised.

We are getting sued not because we protect or use pedophiles and abusers, but because we keep matters of ANY judicial hearing confidential.

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-24 00:28:45 

Btw...anyone who is EVER found to have abused children, is NEVER used again in anyway in ANY congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

And since no Elders are paid, we do not have a clergy to protect!

And as the group admits, they did not get a single piece of info from those on these committees, thus their piece is one sided.

Just because someone is a victim does not make them impartial or free of greivance.

Not to mention the lawyers see sexual abuse as a gold mine due to the the States own inability to legislate it!

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-24 00:46:38 

Also, there is no such thing as an elder not being disfellowshipped for immoral conduct.

Because of the trust and responsibility placed on them if an elder is found to have engaged in serious wrongdoing.. like fornication or adultery, much less child abuse, he is disfellowshipped! Period!

There is no well you are forgiven. You are not only no longer an elder, you are jo longer part of the organization. Meaning you are not spoken to by anyone for a minimum of a year if you choose to keep coming to the meetings.

Tht includes if you move elsewhere.

In order for you to be considered part of a congregation the elders from that congregation, contacts the elders from the congregation you came from, so there's no running away from justice.

 
black 2019-03-24 08:30:26 

In reply to Ayenmol


However there is no strict rule that there has to be 2 witnesses. If a story is credible and details are accurate then action is taken


Ya stupid fcuk!!!

They threw in that two person rule because they want the hide child molesters, just like the Catholic Church.

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-24 08:54:49 

In reply to black

You back again?

 
Ayenmol 2019-03-24 09:31:05 

That one sided accusation made to tarnish the reputation of Witnesses also states thhere are thousands of victims, while giving the three examples.

If as they admit the Organization does not break confidentiality, where did they get those numbers?

The reason why child abuse is such an issue is because it is usually perpetuated by family upon family.

They list someone who was abused from the age of 6? What Organization can prevent that?

How would you even learn about something like that?

But the liars would never state that these are family members abusing their kids in darkness.

There are no policies Witnesses have that promote this behavior. None.

We do not take care or have choirs, or programs for children that place children with any adult not their relatives.

This is a social issue not a Religious one.

Any fair thinking person can understand why these devious people are difficult to stop until the victim is old enough to garner strength.

The best protection against a child being molested is the parents.

Too often the people doing the molesting are the parents.

 
bravos 2019-03-24 11:15:02 

Anybody???

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2019-03-24 11:27:24 

In reply to bravos

tek some and leff some... smile

 
bravos 2019-03-24 11:48:16 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

Cyar eat all dat!!With Ayenmol who knows,it may not be enough? smile

I think Black needs to sit back and partake .

 
Drapsey 2019-03-24 12:57:50 

In reply to bravos

I think Black needs to sit back and partake .

black's prolificity is not what is threatened by Ayenmol, it's POINT's verbosity.