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See why I can't take Church seriously these days
In reply to problemjay
Just Stupid.
First it was buck and now it's suck.
In reply to black
A useful demon.
*awaits Ayenmol..
In reply to bravos
Ayenmol subscribes to Kingdom Hall, not Church.
In reply to Drapsey
Thank you....there is a difference.
Huge difference.
In reply to problemjay
Go to a real Church bro
Visit your nearest Seventh Day Adventist church
You will receive a blessing from the Lord!!!
What happens at a Kingdom Hall.
Every of the thousands of Kingdom Halls in 230 lands teach the exact same thing during every week!
In reply to Drapsey
But every Christian church claim their version or sect is better or the correct teachings. So who to believe?
There are so many core and fundamental differences between say a Jehova Witness and a Catholic, how to you consolidate it?
In reply to Emir
A scriptural view
In reply to problemjay
You are a very religious individual what happened?
PJ cant take Growley seriously, now religion.
Listening to too much soca, ah tell ya.
In reply to sgtdjones
HBD
how old are you? how much do you weigh? (weight in stones)
In reply to bravos
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
dais ah lil youth man in the public library in Canada
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
tenks, had a great birthday on March 21st. Still
sobering up.
Lets put it dis way I am not a small dude,
not as old as PJ, he teeth falling out already.
Not as short as bravos, he would be looking way up at moi?
A lil better looking than cussbud (WestDem)
How many "churches" come to your home and personally teach you from the Bible where you can examine, review, question, disagree without the hype and pressure of
a group?
How did Jesus and his disciples preach?
Here's a challenge...
Go to any church/churches. Formulate a Bible or even life question. Ask a lay person in the church, then ask the pastor.
Go to as many as you like. Note heir discussions, how they receive you etc.
Then go to a Kingdom Hall and do the same.
Compare the results.
In reply to Ayenmol
Happy birthday Officer Ayenmol.
oh you bearded one, please donate blood after your vacation driving your 2 door car
Good luck in all that u do
In reply to Kay
I knew those people were full of BS. People that abuse children are not likely to have witnesses.
In reply to Kay
Sexual abuse is an epidemic in all walks of life... Religious or otherwise.
There are some truthful and some very untruthful allegations made.
There's a difference between confidentiality and harboring. Religion is not a police organization.
Nice that they actually state the scriptures that clearly show how accusations sjould be dealt with then proceed to show that is exactly what is done.
However there is no strict rule that there has to be 2 witnesses. If a story is credible and details are accurate then action is taken.
Finally...to show the contradictory nature of the ad for business consider this...they claim that the Legal dept is notified of these occurrences...then this..
Then this...
There is no such thing as expulsion...you are either disfellowshipped or you are not.
If you are disfellowshipped you are no longer a part of the congregation, none of the congregations!
So yes. We keep things confidential. We also do not condone ANY acts that violate God's laws!
When someone is accussed it is handled scripturally. No accusation goes unheard!
But don't expect the laws protecting the accused to be taken lightly either.
Or that we would violate anyone's trust before a determination of guilt is made.
Also, no one get's disciplined for going to the authorities. Except those who sit on the committees because they are entrusted with a specific responsibility.
Also i saw where it said that an individual who abused one child was entrusted with another...Jehovah's Witnesses do not entrust anyone with anyone.
We do not have preschools. Elders have nothing to do with kids beyond the group setting. So most of these may be between family members.
What happens at people's homes are not supervised.
We are getting sued not because we protect or use pedophiles and abusers, but because we keep matters of ANY judicial hearing confidential.
Btw...anyone who is EVER found to have abused children, is NEVER used again in anyway in ANY congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
And since no Elders are paid, we do not have a clergy to protect!
And as the group admits, they did not get a single piece of info from those on these committees, thus their piece is one sided.
Just because someone is a victim does not make them impartial or free of greivance.
Not to mention the lawyers see sexual abuse as a gold mine due to the the States own inability to legislate it!
Also, there is no such thing as an elder not being disfellowshipped for immoral conduct.
Because of the trust and responsibility placed on them if an elder is found to have engaged in serious wrongdoing.. like fornication or adultery, much less child abuse, he is disfellowshipped! Period!
There is no well you are forgiven. You are not only no longer an elder, you are jo longer part of the organization. Meaning you are not spoken to by anyone for a minimum of a year if you choose to keep coming to the meetings.
Tht includes if you move elsewhere.
In order for you to be considered part of a congregation the elders from that congregation, contacts the elders from the congregation you came from, so there's no running away from justice.
In reply to Ayenmol
However there is no strict rule that there has to be 2 witnesses. If a story is credible and details are accurate then action is taken
Ya stupid fcuk!!!
They threw in that two person rule because they want the hide child molesters, just like the Catholic Church.
In reply to black
You back again?
That one sided accusation made to tarnish the reputation of Witnesses also states thhere are thousands of victims, while giving the three examples.
If as they admit the Organization does not break confidentiality, where did they get those numbers?
The reason why child abuse is such an issue is because it is usually perpetuated by family upon family.
They list someone who was abused from the age of 6? What Organization can prevent that?
How would you even learn about something like that?
But the liars would never state that these are family members abusing their kids in darkness.
There are no policies Witnesses have that promote this behavior. None.
We do not take care or have choirs, or programs for children that place children with any adult not their relatives.
This is a social issue not a Religious one.
Any fair thinking person can understand why these devious people are difficult to stop until the victim is old enough to garner strength.
The best protection against a child being molested is the parents.
Too often the people doing the molesting are the parents.
In reply to bravos
tek some and leff some...
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Cyar eat all dat!!With Ayenmol who knows,it may not be enough?
I think Black needs to sit back and partake .
In reply to bravos
black's prolificity is not what is threatened by Ayenmol, it's POINT's verbosity.
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