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JAGDEO ON WAY TO CCJ

 
Emir 2019-03-23 13:43:48 

Watch his speech here. It is unfortunate he is taking this route. A good leader would have accepted the ruling for the good of the country. His party is unfit to govern and instead of rebuilding his party into a true non racial entity, he has decided to fight for power.

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ray 2019-03-23 14:58:04 

In reply to Emir

Going by your nonsensical thesis, why didn't APNU didn't the first ruling then?

 
Narper 2019-03-23 15:43:49 

In reply to Emir

has decided to fight for power.


Don't be an ass

Currently he is opposition leader

He was following the constitution and calling for new national elections

In continuing in Office after the no confidence vote...Prez Granger said he would use all legal means to resolve the issue....and isn't this what Jagdeo is doing...exploring all legal means too

Its a pity it is going to the CCJ and not going to the Privy Council

As many scholars in T&T have argued...the caribbean is too small to have unbiased judges.....T&T have retained the Privy Council

 
Runs 2019-03-23 20:47:22 

In reply to Narper


Australia
In the Australian Parliament, a motion of no-confidence requires a majority of the members present in the House of Representatives to agree to it. The House of Representatives currently consists of 150 members; requiring 76 votes in favour of the motion when all members of the House are present wink

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2019-03-23 21:11:45 

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See page 53 106.6

 
Runs 2019-03-23 21:25:46 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

Nothing unambiguous about the wording. I thought we interpret the law based on the facts and not inherent bias nor subjective analysis.

 
Narper 2019-03-23 21:31:05 

In reply to Runs

The law is clear ....But not the math...what does majority mean for some politicians and judges?

 
Runs 2019-03-23 21:39:15 

In reply to Narper

Check out Australia’s, they even inserted the number needed in their constitution. Not open to interpretation

 
Emir 2019-03-23 21:44:04 

In reply to Runs

Check out Australia’s, they even inserted the number needed in their constitution. Not open to interpretation


Countries in the region should amend their constitution to insert a specific number like Australia.

If GT had this, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 
Emir 2019-03-23 21:45:59 

In reply to Narper

As many scholars in T&T have argued...the caribbean is too small to have unbiased judges.....T&T have retained the Privy Council


Well, I would like to see citizens voter in a referendum for this.

I believe the CCJ could be as good as or better than the colonial fellers in England.

 
Runs 2019-03-23 21:52:24 

In reply to Emir

I am familiar with folks who drafted it, I will discuss with them cool

I am a firm believer in making everything “idiot proof” lol

 
jala 2019-03-24 05:12:49 

For the Guyanese clan here, the CCJ has already used, and defined what simple and absolute majority mean - there is something called case law, and the Vick has already eatables case law that fleetness defined Marjorie’s and IFES legal iterations and uses.... see the Sheldon Richardson Case

Jagdeo is quite right to move to the CCJ...

And yes , he will lose there too-


Nigel Hughes said this on 22nd December 2018

Guyana the pantomime.

The no confidence that wasn't.

There are sixty five members of the house

Mathematically one half of the house is 32.5 members.

There is no such thing as a half member so half of the house is 33 members.

This is because you have to round up to identify half of the house.

For a no confidence motion to pass and be valid the motion has to enjoy more votes that one half of the full house i.e 34 votes.

The house voted 33:32

33 is a rounding down of what constitutes half of the house.

The motion consequently was not carried.

But in classic Guyana style we have embarrassed ourselves again.

See: Hughes v Rogers. Civil suit 99 and 101 of 1999. Anguilla. Delivered Jan 12th 2000.

First instance decision of Sanders J.

With all the lawyers in the National Assembly this too passed them.

Better Must Come.

 
Runs 2019-03-24 06:51:29 

In reply to jala

If half is 33 then we need to have 66 members dude, that reasoning is flawed. This is not A level math, but 3rd grade, clearly as the CJ and the 1 AP judge ruled 33 is a majority in a 65 member parliament. wink

One cannot infuse words into the constitution, nothing in it about absolute majority.
The rules or guidelines for statutory interpretation are intended to ensure that ambiguities are avoided in order to give effect to a statute or law. However, many times the statutes can be easily interpreted since the words have a plain and straightforward meaning, in other words, it says what it says.

A noted Attorney and Accountant agrees it was an error.

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sudden 2019-03-24 07:58:35 

In reply to Runs

Mate, i am surprised that a simple majority can carry a no confidence motion.

in Bim and in many of the british caribbean islands it takes a 2/3 majority to carry a no confidence motion and constitutional matters.

however i note that the Guyanese system is different

 
Runs 2019-03-24 08:28:40 

In reply to sudden

Parties campaign for constitutional reform up until they win and then they go quiet. Everyone knows it is severely flawed.

53 years since Independence, blessed with natural resources, 3/4 million in population, per capita income of just over US8k, 83k sq mls.
Incompetent politrikkians from all sides

 
Runs 2019-03-24 08:28:41 

 
Narper 2019-03-24 12:57:43 

In reply to jala


There are sixty five members of the house

Mathematically one half of the house is 32.5 members.

There is no such thing as a half member so half of the house is 33 members.

This is because you have to round up to identify half of the house.

For a no confidence motion to pass and be valid the motion has to enjoy more votes that one half of the full house i.e 34 votes.

The house voted 33:32

33 is a rounding down of what constitutes half of the house.

The motion consequently was not carried.


If Charandas had voted as he was expected to vote...then the goverment would have got 33 and Opposition 32

Gov wins by majority right????

Question is why the Opposition needs 34...but the government needs 33

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2019-03-24 13:03:21 

In reply to Narper

when a negative going in the positive direction you add, not subtract or something smile


methinks

 
Narper 2019-03-24 13:13:06 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

Another laughing stock moment for backward mudland big grin

 
googley 2019-03-24 13:20:11 

In reply to Narper

why you confusing Jala with logic? lol lol