Retired Bravo among senior players poised for WI recall

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link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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4/15/19 11:35:57 AM 
Retired Bravo among senior players poised for WI recall

ST JOHN'S, Antigua (CMC) — Cricket West Indies' (CWI) new selection panel says it has reached out to several previously marginalised senior players, including retired all-rounder Dwayne Bravo, and is hoping to have them available for future selection.

This comes as CWI looks to revamp its selection policy, with the aim of keeping the process free of outside interference and ultimately selecting the strongest squads possible for international assignments.

Speaking at a media conference here this week, newly appointed interim chairman of selectors Robert Haynes said contact had already been made with the likes of Bravo and Pollard, with the players indicating their desire to represent the Caribbean side.

“Between the coach (Floyd Reifer) and I, we've been talking to a lot of players and for sure...we've been in contact with these players and we want them to understand that once they're available, we'll be thinking about them,” Haynes said.


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link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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4/15/19 11:42:21 AM 
Excellent move.

The best players must always be considered.

Simmons should be considered too. He looked good in the recent 4 day tournament. Many of the innings he scored good runs were like limited overs innings.

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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4/15/19 11:46:22 AM 
A caller to a show asked, "What has Pollard and DJ Bravo done to deserve a recall? I wouldn't even let them through a window much less to open a door for them."

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link analyst-kid Joined: Feb 22, 2003
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4/15/19 12:03:48 PM 
In reply to Narper

Simmons definitely. He performed excellently in the regionals.

link analyst-kid Joined: Feb 22, 2003
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4/15/19 12:04:54 PM 
Dwayne Smith retired because of Brown...will he lose some weight and return to the T20?

link Walco Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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4/15/19 12:06:08 PM 
In reply to Headley

A caller to a show asked, "What has Pollard and DJ Bravo done to deserve a recall? I wouldn't even let them through a window much less to open a door for them."

smile That's some funny stuff. I would not open a window for Pollard, but I would for Big Bravo. There were four players dropped from the WI ODI team after the India pull out--the two Bravos, Pollard and Sammy. Big Bravo and Sammy were the only two players that have not played for the WI since the India debacle. Those are the players who were blacklisted, not Pollard and Lil Bravo who have played for WI since the pull out.

link Walco Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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4/15/19 12:07:25 PM 
In reply to Narper

Simmons should be considered too.

Considered yes, but who would you drop for Simmons?

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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4/15/19 12:07:30 PM 
In reply to Headley

How could they have done anything when the door was shut on them.

Before he retired Bravo literally begged to play...and was repeatedly overlooked

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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4/15/19 12:13:19 PM 
In reply to Walco

Considered yes, but who would you drop for Simmons?

As far as I know...a squad hasn't been picked.

But off my head I would say Simmons and Daren Bravo would be competing for a spot.

Hope and Hety should be there

link Pacy Joined: Dec 1, 2002
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4/15/19 12:14:22 PM 
In reply to Narper

The best players must always be considered.

Simmons should be considered too. He looked good in the recent 4 day tournament. Many of the innings he scored good runs were like limited overs innings.


I am always of the view that best players should be considered but then again It might be too late for the WC. There is not enough time for the team to come togather and gel.

If all these players were pulled in for the Ireland series (Which still would be very few matches) there could be some traction. But just adding players who were not part of the set up for years into the team might backfire. A cautious path needs to be taken

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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4/15/19 12:19:40 PM 
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But just adding players who were not part of the set up for years into the team might backfire.

These seniors have all played together in the past....they have all played under J Ho in the past....they have played all over the world in different leagues...they are professionals and surely can adapt easily.
The few newbies can surely learn from them

link Walco Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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4/15/19 12:21:15 PM 
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Ok I thought you were thinking that Simmons should be competing for an opening spot or he should be picked ahead of Marlon. I would pick Darren Bravo ahead of Simmons though

link CITYBOY Joined: Jul 11, 2017
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4/15/19 12:43:47 PM 
Hola...the circus performers are touted as WI best players????Steeeeewps ...Comedy central on this board...
Pollard,Bravo ,Simmons were not good enough in 2007,2011,2015 and now people think they good enuff in 2019???
Adios
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link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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4/15/19 12:47:59 PM 
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Pollard,Bravo ,Simmons were not good enough in 2007,2011,2015


That was the era of bickering and dictatorship
WIPA WICB bickering
WICB mafia dictatorship...Hunte , Hillaire, Cameron

PLayers were all destabilized...in this environment

These same players won two T20 WC based on their IPL exposure

These same players excel all over the world in other environment

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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4/15/19 12:54:27 PM 
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Assuming Russel and Holder bat 7 and 8.

You have an opening in the middle order

3 Hope
4 Hetmyer
5 Lil B

Who has really made that other spot theirs..check the stats..Powell? Samuels? Ambris? Carter? Chase? Dowrich? Pooran?

Its as much theirs as it could be Pollard or Simmons.

9-11 is also up for debate, what with Aljo (now injured) Roach, Cotterel, Thompson, Allen, Paul, Nurse (grudgingly listed by me), Gabriel...DJ Bravo could also be added to that list and his batting gives him an edge.

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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4/15/19 1:25:56 PM 
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5 Lil B


Check his ODI average and SR

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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4/15/19 1:45:24 PM 
In reply to Narper

Yeah as poor as it is, he is still going to be in that middle order..for the exact same reason Pollard and Simmon's name even enter the debate, still better than most!!

Lack of better candidates, and he'll be there based on his Test record, last years CPL record, and the fact that Samuels in 20 matches in the last 24 months has averaged 22 with a SR of 67.

link Emir Joined: Aug 9, 2014
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4/15/19 1:46:18 PM 
In reply to Narper

These seniors have all played together in the past....they have all played under J Ho in the past....they have played all over the world in different leagues...they are professionals and surely can adapt easily.
The few newbies can surely learn from them


Well said, case in point: look hoe Mumbai Indians used Polly to guide young AlJoe in th field and how he kept talking to the young man after every ball- so said the international panel of commies, they were in high praise for Polly

link Emir Joined: Aug 9, 2014
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4/15/19 1:46:19 PM 
In reply to Narper

These seniors have all played together in the past....they have all played under J Ho in the past....they have played all over the world in different leagues...they are professionals and surely can adapt easily.
The few newbies can surely learn from them


Well said, case in point: look hoe Mumbai Indians used Polly to guide young AlJoe in th field and how he kept talking to the young man after every ball- so said the international panel of commies, they were in high praise for Polly

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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4/15/19 2:19:01 PM 
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“Between the coach (Floyd Reifer) and I, we've been talking to a lot of players and for sure...we've been in contact with these players and we want them to understand that once they're available, we'll be thinking about them,” Haynes said.

Thinking about them does not equate to any of them being poised for World Cup selection

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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4/15/19 2:35:18 PM 
In reply to imusic

Thinking about them does not equate to any of them being poised for World Cup selection


Truer words have rarely been said. lol lol lol

We are here thinking about them too. big grin

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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4/15/19 3:33:52 PM 
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Thinking about them does not equate to any of them being poised for World Cup selection


This is true, but none can be excluded, there are at least 2 spots that are wide open.

link goofballs Joined: May 8, 2007
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4/15/19 3:36:15 PM 
In reply to sgtdjones


Lip service counts for nothing, especially from politicians and wishy washy administrators whose only job in life is to try please everybody (impossible) but talk is cheap.

The best players should always end up representing you in professional endeavours, not friendly fete matches or goodwill missions.

How you select the best? Look at global performances, strength of opposition, experience, maturity, etc(Oops! I am giving away the answer that most nationalists don't like).

If you choose just on donkeycity cricket, Permaul would be captain, Devon Smith manager, Cornwall fielding and bowling coach!!

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 28, 2003
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4/15/19 4:19:04 PM 
In reply to Narper
The best players must always be considered.
… however, this should not be in a vacuum, one must at least be playing competitive cricket somewhere, as I have advocated for, for years.

And I asked on another thread, should T20 form be used to select an ODI team?


Note: especially if their ODI record is nothing to talk about.

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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4/15/19 7:09:25 PM 
In reply to natty_forever

should T20 form be used to select an ODI team?


India and Oz just selected their WC squad based on IPL form
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