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Criticising Selectors Is Easy - Now You Are The Chairman

 
Headley 2019-04-25 13:31:04 

50 Overs Stats

..............................Player 1 Player 2
Batting Average.........14.41 16.43
Scoring Rate.............86.06 74.68

Bowling Average.........43.61 45.27
Strike Rate................47.74 46.18


Which one of the above two players would you choose and why?

 
Headley 2019-04-25 14:56:29 

WI men are good at great at admiring, talking, criticising, even regurgitating, but not so good at doing. Two hours and more than 12 posts later not one 'selector' was brave enough to touch this post.

A hundred criticisms have been piled on the selectors during the past 18 hours. I was criticising too until I checked the numbers. That is when it dawned on me that the critics could not choose between these two players.

 
tc1 2019-04-25 15:14:15 

In reply to Headley

Both are weak players, toss a coin into the air

lol

 
Narper 2019-04-25 15:21:25 

In reply to Headley

50 Overs Stats

..............................Player 1 Player 2
Batting Average.........14.41 16.43
Scoring Rate.............86.06 74.68

Bowling Average.........43.61 45.27
Strike Rate................47.74 46.18


Which one of the above two players would you choose and why?



You will need more info.

Is this career stats?
Season stats? how many games played?
What teams they play for...ranking in the tournament?
who are the team mates....what are their stats?
role in team....all rounder? batsman?bowler?
batting position?
bowling period...opening...at death etc


Maybe you should play our fantasy league so you would know what should go into selecting players big grin big grin big grin

 
openning 2019-04-25 15:36:34 

In reply to Narper

Is this career stats?
Season stats? how many games played?
What teams they play for...ranking in the tournament?
who are the team mates....what are their stats?
role in team....all rounder? batsman?bowler?
batting position?
bowling period...opening...at death etc



You really think most posters, look at the above when discussing team selection?
You've moved that goal post so far away for the penalty line. lol lol

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2019-04-25 15:37:26 

In reply to Headley

Show their passports and you'll get your answer

 
Headley 2019-04-25 15:53:52 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

May be the best answer so far.

 
Headley 2019-04-25 15:54:51 

In reply to Narper

It is not really needed but these are career stats.

 
jacksprat 2019-04-25 16:16:11 

In reply to Headley

Which one of the above two players would you choose and why?

How about neither?

Why? Not up to standard!

 
Dukes 2019-04-25 16:19:08 

In reply to Headley

The interesting thing is that player 1 who was selected in describing player 2 who was not said:

This guy is one of the most talented cricketers in the world!!!!

He said that after the guy took 5-15.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
goofballs 2019-04-25 16:29:46 

In reply to Headley

I like your puzzles. Don't have a clue if these are real stats or people.
If so,
then
WI cricket sucks
if that's all we got to pick from.

Of course, I give little value to numbers unless it is money or stocks.lol

Now if one player is an old mule with a D rating (in fantasy football lingo), cannot go any further than his extreme mediocrity exhibited over the donkey years. Then his numbers would tell me a lot.

and the other one is a kid who hasn't ketch his length yet, (his tenderfeet numbers mean squat)

who would you select?

 
Walco 2019-04-25 17:08:31 

In reply to Dukes

He said that after the guy took 5-15.

A few questions sir. Was the 5-15 performance in a T2I or an ODI? And how the hell would Player 1 have been interviewed after that 5-15 performance by Player 2? Was Player 1 the captain or something? Or was it a tweet??? smile smile

 
Dukes 2019-04-25 17:11:49 

In reply to Walco

You need to pay closer attention.


Was Player 1 the captain or something?

What you think????

lol lol lol lol

 
openning 2019-04-25 17:12:34 

In reply to Walco

You have to smile at some of the arguments.
I had to look up Paul's stats, to see what the fuss is all about.

 
Walco 2019-04-25 17:16:21 

In reply to Headley

Tough decision there. The selectors obviously went with the more experienced guy--Player 1--who has had good recent form in the format compared to Player 2 who I think was injured during the last ODI series.

 
Walco 2019-04-25 17:20:15 

In reply to openning

Truth be told. I am a big Keemo Paul fan. He is an intelligent cricketer with lots of upside as a bowler. Some say he also has loads of ability with the bat, but I have not seen it so far at the international level. For me, if he keeps up the hard work Paul will be playing for the WI for another 10 years ...

 
Dukes 2019-04-25 17:20:56 

In reply to openning

I had to look up Paul's stats, to see what the fuss is all about.


I looked at Paul in the test match at Antigua and after that I said it was the best example of swing bowling I had seen from a West Indian fast bowler since Malcolm Marshall.

I will tell you right here,right now. BOOKMARK THIS POST.

 
Walco 2019-04-25 17:21:40 

In reply to Dukes

lol lol lol

 
openning 2019-04-25 17:27:22 

In reply to Dukes
Doc, I once gave away 100 US dollars, betting on Ali against Spinks.
My ignorance and arrogance, made me give that money to a buddy, who after hearing the fight rush to tell us what happened, I with my big mouth told him, he was lying and bet the money.
I was a poor young student at the time, who could not afford to lose any money.
So I just watch players, hoping they would succeed

 
Headley 2019-04-25 17:36:34 

.............................. .Player 1 Player 2 Player 3
Batting Average..........14.41 16.43 19.52
Scoring Rate...............86.06 74.68 98.03

Bowling Average.........43.61 45.27 43.26
Strike Rate.................47.74 46.18 50.24

Now that you're a big time selector, enjoying the per diem, the days of being paid to watch cricket and feeling like you have the power to shape WI cricket look at the third player above and decide which one you will NOT select.

 
Headley 2019-04-26 00:41:26 

It seems that based on the limited responses the CWI selectors did not do such a bad job. By now most of you should realise (if you did not from the clues Dukes gave) that the 3 players are Brathwaite, Paul and Nurse.

Statistically I see no way to choose between the three of them except to say Nurse has the best batting stats and I see his position not as an underachieving allrounder but as a wickettaking bowler. It is wickets I need from Nurse. At the very least he must be very economical to apply pressure if he is not taking wickets. Batting is gravy from him. Since his fitness is also a concern he has to go.

 
StumpCam 2019-04-26 12:04:51 

In reply to Headley

The selected player is the designated media liaison and assistant to the captain! lol

 
Kay 2019-04-26 12:40:49 

In reply to Headley

If it was just a numbers game they wouldn't need selectors, the board's statistician can just parse the stats from Cricinfo and come up with the most qualified players.

In the West Indies intangibles plays a big part …….

 
Headley 2019-04-26 15:58:36 

In reply to StumpCam

Life is not fair. Some get reward for hard work and some get more work. lol

 
Headley 2019-04-26 16:09:15 

In reply to Kay

It is a numbers game. It has always been a numbers game. The development of new criteria and new metrics for measurement is significantly where WI has been left behind.

The smart selector will always be guided by numbers. Where that guidance is not applicable or cannot help to differentiate between players then the intangibles should be applied.

The people who criticise the selectors the most are usually ignorant of the statistics. big grin

 
natty_forever 2019-04-26 16:17:57 

In reply to Kay

If it was just a numbers game they wouldn't need selectors, the board's statistician can just parse the stats from Cricinfo and come up with the most qualified players.
… that's what we been trying to tell you all. Remember now, numbers never lie, selectors on the other-hand ...