EDWARD SEAGA-RIP

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link Ewart Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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5/20/19, 4:19:11 PM 
In reply to jacksprat

Saw it. Expected nothing less from the fawning Mr. Brown.

NOTE: Manley fought Shearer for power 1972. No war.

Manley fought Seaga for power 1989. No war.

But 2,000 Jamaicans were killed in political civil war between 1976 and 1980 while Seaga was fighting to remove Manley from power.

If Seaga had not organised Shearer out of the party leadership, there would have been no civil war.



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link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/20/19, 8:24:06 PM 
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In reply to jacksprat
I stopped reading that rubbish quickly

link Casper Joined: Nov 8, 2018
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5/20/19, 8:57:13 PM 
In reply to Chrissy

PM Holness said he told Papa Eddie that you send him your love, keeping him in your prayers and that things are going hunky dory in Ja.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/20/19, 9:00:30 PM 
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lol lol

link nitro Joined: Apr 9, 2003
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5/21/19, 8:25:41 AM 
In reply to Chrissy

You people having me despising this man the more i read about him. He created some good but he seems to be one of the creators of Jamaica's terrible gun violence.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/21/19, 10:10:18 AM 
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He was the architect for gun violence in Jamaica

link np Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/23/19, 2:52:00 PM 
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Mr. Sprat ... I know you don't believe all of that from Orville Brown ...
Sure Eddie Blinds did a few good t'ings, but the man was a sellout of JA in the longterm (1979/80 - 89ish under Reagan's guidance) during the Caribbean Basin Initiative (CBI).
Actions that are not to be forgiven - even in his now critical situation. Furthermore .. he via that same period was the architect of gunrunning in West Kingston

link Ewart Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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5/23/19, 5:00:16 PM 
In reply to np

For journalists, opinion writing is a special art -- even if you want to be partisan.

Orville Brown is proof conclusive, if needed, that Calabar High School did not always produce (and here I quote lines from the School Song) men who are

"True as steel
In our zeal
For the honour of our school"


OR that not everybody has the capacity to understand the limitations of opinion without facts.

OR that donkey should not run in horse race.

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link BeatDball Joined: Jul 19, 2014
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5/23/19, 8:39:24 PM 
In reply to Casper Very moving! Thank you PM Holiness.

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link jacksprat Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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5/24/19, 8:41:56 AM 
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Mr. Sprat ... I know you don't believe all of that from Orville Brown ...

Sharing it should not be confused with an endorsement.

You are preaching to a member of the choir when it comes to Seaga and the number he did on Jamaica.

link np Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/24/19, 1:36:26 PM 
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In reply to jacksprat

Seen, and understood brother ... never had any doubts!! big grin big grin

One Love!!

link Hanover Joined: Apr 15, 2003
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6/2/19, 5:11:14 PM 
In modern politics, leaders are rarely measured based on the principle of creating, or contributing to the creation of, the just city; instead, they are generally celebrated, by their supporters, for the mere incidence of political party leadership – as Franklin Roosevelt supposedly said, the leader may be a SOB, but he is our SOB. If leaders are measured on the basis of their challenge to overcome despair of the fundamentals of the just city, then, within the last 50 years, one leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, stands tall above all others. In the case of Eddie Seaga, if not for the just city, by what fact or standard should he be measured?

link Hanover Joined: Apr 15, 2003
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6/19/19, 9:51:32 AM 
Four days of mourning for “hard man fi dead”.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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6/19/19, 10:26:44 AM 
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Some mourn - some celebrate.

link DonD Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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6/19/19, 11:17:25 AM 
In reply to Hanover

When will Seaga's body be interred? Seems as if the Labour govt. is more interested in ensuring that as many Jamaicans as possible have a chance to view his flag draped casket. I find it interesting that they didn't see fit to send his body to Montego Bay by Mule and Cart or by canoe. Afterall, the man was supposed to epitomize our culture and heritage. In the old days they would wrap up his body in a mat or crocus bag and send it down to Mo Bay.

On a more serious note. I read Trevor Munro's brief critique of his work. I thought Trevor did a very good job. The one thing missing was Seaga's significant contribution at the 1987 Vancouver Commonwealth conference where he supported Brian Mulroney in his effort against Margaret Thatcher. Thatcher opposed the commonwealth's campaign to impose sanction against South Africa. Anyway, Blinds, terrible as he may be, a summady pickney too. May his soul RIP.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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6/19/19, 11:50:44 AM 
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Well as di people are saying, di empty casket was in MoBay too.

Word is they were planning a father's Day burial but someone in di party asked dem if dem lick dem head.
Party insiders also seh dat di death certificate shows a different date.

link DonD Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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6/19/19, 12:03:02 PM 
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So wait!! them never open the casket in Tivoli so that the people them could peep pon him and worship him?

link Hanover Joined: Apr 15, 2003
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6/19/19, 12:51:25 PM 
In reply to DonD

Well, the death of a cow is the dinner to a crow…
Is the JLP using Seaga’s death, as one of the means of activating its base to call the next big one earlier than early?

I have not read Munroe’s article. Can you confirm if he said anything about 1983 to 1989? Recall, the JLP, under Blinds, controlled 100 percent of the Jamaican Parliament.

link DonD Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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6/19/19, 1:18:12 PM 
In reply to Hanover

I believe Munro's article was on June 10th in the Gleaner on line. He did commend Blinds on appointing "independent" Senators following the non contested election in 1983 so as to add an element of "opposition" in the upper Chamber.

link Hanover Joined: Apr 15, 2003
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6/19/19, 2:48:45 PM 
In reply to DonD

Thanks, man. I might not read it and weep, but, hopefully, I will read it and learnsmile

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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6/19/19, 3:18:20 PM 
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In reply to DonD

And dem vex yuh see

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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6/19/19, 3:20:07 PM 
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TM is mi brethren but seriously - it was a non-contested election because said Seaga committed to a new voters list and then called it. Manley correctly refused to participate.
In reality it was the only one party government in independent Jamaica

link nitro Joined: Apr 9, 2003
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6/19/19, 3:38:33 PM 
RIP One Done.

link Ewart Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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6/19/19, 5:45:22 PM 
In reply to Chrissy

I believe Michael also had another objective. He had had time to step back and reflect on the bloody horrors the country had been through since 1976. And he felt that some more time was needed for cooling off.

This married well with the voters' list situation.


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