Be prepared for impeachment proceedings

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link Ayenmol Joined: May 3, 2003
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5/15/19, 2:32:59 PM 
Uh oh...

link Runs Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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5/15/19, 2:45:54 PM 
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One more post for 1 a day Vix, he will get to that elusive hundred by





2021 lol

link SnoopDog Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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5/15/19, 2:57:08 PM 
In reply to Runs

Why are the Dems not getting Mueller to testify? Or have they set a date?

This to me is important. Mueller's testimony, with his report as an exhibit, will likely lay any ground work for any possible impeachment on the charge of obstruction.

Even if the Dems choose not to impeach, his testimony would provide a lot of ammo for Dem candidates in the 2020 general election.

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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5/15/19, 3:13:27 PM 
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Even if the Dems choose not to impeach, his testimony would provide a lot of ammo for Dem candidates in the 2020 general election
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I agree. The Dems need to do what they have to do and forget about what the Senate is going to do.

I think they are in negotiations with Mueller.

link nick2020 Joined: Jul 1, 2012
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5/15/19, 3:18:13 PM 
In reply to SnoopDog

Didn't Mueller speak to the Intelligence Committee behind closed doors?

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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5/15/19, 3:20:44 PM 
In reply to nick2020

No.

link Runs Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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5/15/19, 3:25:07 PM 
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In reply to SnoopDog

He is probably still a DOJ employee and am sure they will keep him employed and occupied for awhile. Until he becomes a private citizen he is bound by the stonewalling.
I concur with what you said.

link SnoopDog Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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5/15/19, 3:29:46 PM 
In reply to Runs

But being a DOJ employee does not preclude him from testifying to congress.

I think it's important for the public to hear what Mueller has to say and how he speaks to the contents of his report.

link Star Joined: Nov 27, 2002
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5/15/19, 3:33:38 PM 
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You are missing a very important point.

Mueller's report is not his anymore. The report is now under control of the DOJ headed by Barr.

The last time I checked, Barr's permission is required before any redacted passages in that report can be made public and as you well know Barr is taking his cue from the teflon king, so good luck with that.

The Dems are just wasting time. Paper tigers cannot even enforce a subpoena unless the teflon king says it is okay.

link SnoopDog Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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5/15/19, 3:46:19 PM 
In reply to Star

You are missing a very important point.

Mueller's report is not his anymore. The report is now under control of the DOJ headed by Barr.

The last time I checked, Barr's permission is required before any redacted passages in that report can be made public and as you well know Barr is taking his cue from the teflon king, so good luck with that.


I understand all of what you wrote. But Mueller can still testify in his capacity as the special counsel who authored the report. He doesn't have to speak to the redacted portions for him to give valuable and probative evidence about the un-redacted report.

He could clearly and unequivocally tell the American people that the report does not exonerate the Dotard and explain why he left it to congress for them to prosecute the obstruction charge.

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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5/15/19, 3:47:03 PM 
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The Dems are just wasting time. Paper tigers cannot even enforce a subpoena unless the teflon king says it is okay


I disagree, the Mueller report is not a vindication as the Whitehouse and Barr are leading the public to believe. The Dems wanted to expose and weaken Trump without having to resort to impeachment. But, with the Whitehouse not cooperating, the Dems have no other choice but to impeach.

link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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5/15/19, 4:05:40 PM 
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He could claim "whistle-blower" protection and testify if he so chooses.

link Runs Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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5/15/19, 4:16:41 PM 
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I don’t know if Rosenstein and Mueller being GOP members want to bring down a GOP president. Seems to me that party loyalty trumps everything, unless it is so blatant it cannot be swept under the rug. Barr and Senate etc are on that page, not another Nixon disgrace on their watch.
The stonewalling is telling, even McGahn shows reluctance.

link DAVE400 Joined: May 27, 2004
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5/15/19, 4:22:44 PM 
Wow..

link SnoopDog Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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5/15/19, 4:33:50 PM 
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He could claim "whistle-blower" protection and testify if he so chooses.


If he is subpoenaed he has to testify. Period.

link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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5/15/19, 4:37:50 PM 
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Like how the WH turning over documents when they have received subpoenas? The WH has demonstrated that it will be a scoff-law thus hoping to force the Democrats to impeach Trump,

link WI_cricfan Joined: Oct 11, 2006
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5/15/19, 4:59:42 PM 
Blah Blah Blah....

and when you wake up tomorrow morning who is the president of the United States of America?

If some of you pay attention to your own affairs like you are paying to Trump's affairs life would be better off for some of you.


At least the pharmaceutical companies would not get rich off you.

link carl0002 Joined: Apr 15, 2003
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5/15/19, 5:19:21 PM 
I am seriously sick and tired of these democrats inaction. I cant take it anymore. If me not living in the states and feel this way. I cant imagine how folks who living in it feel. I am at a loss of what further evidence the democrats need. While they "if" and awing and bumbling and complaining, Trump already gone 2 to 4 moves ahead. By the time Democrats decide to do anything, if they do anything at all, the whole thing will be useless, limp and impotent. If you could at least act decisive to give the impression like you know what you are doing. It would help. This is really painful to watch from afar. A Dotard bluffing his way through a presidency.

shock shock

link Runs Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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5/15/19, 5:22:04 PM 
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They stand a real chance of not impeaching and losing the presidency. 1 a day Vix crawls to 2 a day. lol

link carl0002 Joined: Apr 15, 2003
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5/15/19, 5:32:40 PM 
In reply to Runs
Nobody is willing to do the right thing. The friggin lawyer Macgan cant do the right thing or wont do it. Mueller dont want to do the right thing and even if Mueller testify chances are he is not going to say the things he aught to say. It might just be wrapped up in pure lawyer speak. So you run the risk that the Mueller testimony wont deliver the slam dunk they are looking for. Then what? Trump is not about to do anything right after lying cheating a thieving all his life. Congress wont do the right thing and begin impeachment proceedings. The senate wont do the right thing and remove the president and Murca is wrapped up in 1 big lie after another. If the democrats dont impeach the electorate have all right to reject them from the executive office.

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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5/15/19, 6:29:21 PM 
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If me not living in the states and feel this way. I cant imagine how folks who living in it feel.


Americans are tired of the whole damn thing..two years of it and nothing.

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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5/15/19, 6:52:09 PM 
In reply to maj

It's not about public opinion, it's about doing their Constitutional duties.

link Star Joined: Nov 27, 2002
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5/15/19, 7:35:17 PM 
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I am sort of agreeing with the Snoopster re Mueller but as Carl0002 correctly opined, even if Mueller testify, he may choose to be all lawyer speak and not deliver the slam dunk which everyone knows he is capable of doing.

The sad thing is these guys all know the Trumpster is in the wrong and is a con man but they are all Republicans with no morals so Democrats are left to look hapless every day on CNN and MSNBC.

In the meantime the Trumpster is about to start a war in Iran and Venezuela right under the noses of the Dems.

This thing is like a comedy.

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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5/15/19, 8:07:01 PM 
In reply to Star


I am sort of agreeing with the Snoopster re Mueller but as Carl0002 correctly opined, even if Mueller testify, he may choose to be all lawyer speak and not deliver the slam dunk which everyone knows he is capable of doing.


There are simple remedies for lawyer speak, ask yes or no questions.

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