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This is an absolute disgrace to cricket period let alone the freaking World Cup. Both of these umpires should be dropped today.

In reply to Chrissy

Yes, and he said they are weak b/c they are intimidated by Aussie appealing.

Now Mikey is right, Sub Continental umpires are intimidated by Aussies, we have seen it time and again.

In reply to Chrissy

Biased umpiring more like....

In reply to NineMiles

Yep

We need to name and shame these umpires? Who are they so we can see how they do in other matches?

‘Atrocious’ would have affected both sides. It is biased—whether intentional or not is the issue.

Kind of worried Holding may get dropped from the comms team, instead of the umpires getting banished from the tournament

In reply to Chrissy

Flagitium est!

In reply to Chrissy


Every phorquene wrong decision going against us. smh

In reply to Tryangle

You are a man who clearly understands how the ICC operates.

I bet some of you would have loved that umpire to be Indian , just so it could fit in with your whinge-worldview?

Eh Emir? How's that chip coming along?

But didn’t all the decisions get overturned?
So apart from the no-ball miss, (which happens often), the decisions from the 4th umpire were correct.

The game was lost in the 2nd half of the oz innings.

Dem is the facts. Stop allyuh moaning.

Starc is a boss bowler by the way.

In reply to Banner

Only by a fcuking miracle.

If any of those referrals had the balls barely grazing the stumps they all would have gone against the Wondies.

The umpiring was piss poor.

In reply to SnoopDog

Yes, very poor. But they made no difference as the DRS corrected the wrongs.

In reply to sgtdjones

they always say that. Its true but its also a cheap excuse to excuse umpires from necessary scrutiny. Even though four umpiring decisions were reversed, the most important one was not.....and it was the most glaring. How do you miss a four inch no ball?

Maybe DRS needs a VAR like protocol which will examine the previous ball for any infringement

In reply to Maispwi

Precisely

Source: cricinfo.com

In reply to Maispwi

If the technology is there, why not. Third umpire can scan for those front foot no-balls anytime and alert the on-field umpires.

In reply to Tryangle

There should be an automatic check for the legitimacy of every ball...de cameras already in place. The Gayle wicket could well have been the difference in the outcome of the match.

In reply to Oilah The technology is showing how quick sighted the umpires need to be. However, such a no-ball should not have been missed. If Starc, was no balled, the next ball may be bowled differently. Gayle could have been run out also.

And that needs to be addressed by the ICC

Umpires are human and can get things wrong on occasion. That’s why DRS is an important and NECESSARY tool in the game IMO.

But that was some shocking decision making by the umps. Yes.....DRS ultimately got it right but DAMN.....that kind of incompetence on the biggest stage in the game is major cause for concern for those in charge of administering the game.

In reply to jelfew

dude.....the umpiring is as bad as it has ever been. The umpiring in the ipl is abysmal and the umpiring in this cwc has been just as bad. I think too many umpires are being put forward by boards, and some of them are truly incompetent. I remember when the neutral umpire arrangement first came in, there were four umpires who were most used: Bird, Sheppard, Venkat and Bucknor. Not that they never made mistakes, but they never made loss-wuk errors like yesterday's show. Hair and harper came along after but they were mostly poor and both left in disgrace. But even then, i don't think they would make 6 errors in 50 overs. Only two umpires i know were capable of such a shocking performance, bowden and Ashoka de silva. And they have both been dropped.

In reply to Tryangle

The technology is there. They are able to show previous balls bowled. They just need to institute a protocol in white ball cricket to check the previous ball when a wicket, other than run out, falls. Dat wud ensure dat bowlers doh get wickets with free hit balls

Could it be that the advent of DRS has contributed to lowering the standard of human umpiring in the game?

Essentially human umpires now have the DDS “safety net” to fall back on so perhaps they relax their concentration levels

If so, this begs the question....is DRS really better for the game in terms of coming up with correct decisions?

Or was umpiring just always this poor and we just accepted it and moved on in pre DRS times?

In reply to Maispwi

Why stop at the previous ball? Why not 2 overs ago when he overstepped too?

See it could become ridiculous

In reply to imusic

I don't think the human umpires got any better or worse. It is just that we get to see their errors now.

In the old days Gayle would have gone back to the pavilion from the first hit and we wouldn't be any wiser.

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Yup. And we would just have to take that and cool it

I’ve seen Joel Garner bowl BIG No balls (had a fortunate vantage point in the stands) in the oval against New Zealand and take wickets.

NZ had a young batsman back then called Ken Rutherford. He had an absolute torrid tomike against WI pace attack. I don’t think he ever made runs against us. But that day he got out to a very big no ball. No call from the ump

Why not use technology to assist with noballs.

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Why would you want to go back two overs? The ball previous to the dismissal ball is all dat matters since a free hit is awarded for a no ball. If it is legit no problem

Because in white ball cricket a no ball is a free hit so a check of the previous ball would determine if a free hit was missed. Long periods are sometimes spent to decide whether a ball has gone for four or six why not verify that a wicket is legitimately lost since we are into using technology?

Wats more important a wicket or two runs?

In reply to Maispwi

If you’re going back 2 balls....you should review every delivery for no balls IMO

I have no idea how you would administer that in a timely manner

In reply to imusic

Exactly. It has to be the moment. The current ball only. Otherwise it becomes ridiculous.

In reply to imusic

This should be done in ODIs. The third umpire should be checking for no-balls (not calling them) and alert the standing umpire if he thinks they should have a closer look at a delivery. With free hits, there is too much at stake.

I believe a case can be made for the review of the previous ball that takes a wicket. As is pointed out, if the wicket taking ball should have been a free-hit ball, then..... Anyway, I think that we cannot try to mitigate every mistake in the game. That's boring. What if that ball turns out to have taken a wicket which was overlooked, Should the batsman be given out on review? I have seen batsmen being "out" but everyone on the field seem to have overlooked that.