I want Floyd to get a run
but
I feeling to call and tell him I really didnt agree with his " the lads are entertainers" comment...
I understand what he was trying to do...and as much as the lads are actively saying it was not his fault to blame them....
It doesnt quite work that way...
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Coach Floyd on Mason this evening
In reply to powen001
will be very interesting to hear your views on the quality of his interview....I don't find that he communicates very effectively...I saw an interview with him and he just seemed void of ideas and the ability to get his point over convincingly...
In reply to hotarobin
thing is...The guys like how he leads them...and yes...personally I wish he was more articulate as clarity of thought and expression is huge for me when called to a leadership position.
I have always respected his will to get the job done and remain focused.
the years of Reifer versus Ganga teams were Epic ...and ought to have lead to the birth of some serious growth in both Bim and TnT camps but it didnt quite pan out that way.
In reply to powen001"
thing is...The guys like how he leads them"
Who said that? Your wife?
In reply to powen001
In reply to natty_forever
no..you need to keep up.
that was reported yesterday mate.
fellas said to blame them and not the coach.
In reply to hotarobin
Floyd needs work in that area.
He gets his point across but personally I feel he can be better before the mics.
Kraigg Brathwaite too in my opinion.
Show just started
Derek Murray on.
In reply to powen001
I am up wid you! trust me!
Wolf in sheep clothing!
says we were the last team to qualify so finishing 9th didnt defy the ranking given.
Its how we lost that gets his goat...
I concur
In reply to natty_forever
i regret not having a link for you .
I heard it on the news
In reply to powen001
I still vex.
In reply to natty_forever
nuff ppl with you too..
matter of fact ... quite a few Bajans...
I asked myself if I am giving him a break and asking for a run...cause I consider him a friend OORR am I being fair and...patient.
I told myself...I am being fair and patient...He literally just came in before the WC.
The Russell experiment was one of the biggest messes ever -
He is an enigma...
Philo asking for Positives from Derek Murray
Murray says he is vindicated...
T 20 style showed up in the 50 overs ad nauseum which is not good... and he says he knew it would happen..
I think Roston may have made a difference... we needed more level heads
Murray bro...
The LEGACY you speak of is not being felt in the bellies of our lads who can basically purchase whatever they want and not be aware of those ties that binded the Original WINDIES team of yesteryear.
Murray tired of the we are seeing positives?
We had a few positives that lead us to nowhere.
WE need a short term, medium and long term plan.
Let's take a 7 year plan , take the 13 year olds and
have them in a setup where at 20 years old they can
play at the highest level with any one today.
Who developed our coaching manual? It obviously dont work,so many flaws in our players.
WE have thrown out what made us the best at what we did in the past, and went to the video era, which did not work for the last decades.
In reply to sgtdjones
Very good summary of what Murray is actually advancing.
I am not sure the thread starter has the ability to so do.
Thanks. Good summary.
In reply to Courtesy
agreed.
Andy on now too..
boy ..his face didnt hide his anguish during those matches at all
In reply to sgtdjones
I believe that when we win ...we end up fooling ourselves that all is well...but...clearly not.
the 50 over version has really exposed us in the past few years.
In reply to Courtesy
Listen pardner
What murray is saying you have posted various threads
on the topics.
You have the finger on the problems.
In reply to powen001
WE have forgotten what made us number one
now we are following other nations that led us to
two decades of failures.
WE need to get back to basics at an early age.
In reply to sgtdjones
There is no other way Sarge. It has to be a well thought out systematic approach. As Dr. Forde alluded to "it's a systemic failure."
In reply to Courtesy
agreed.
but I fear that we been saying this ...for a few years now...
I am not sure what the Skeritts Ethos is...but surely something has to happen...
players want to be men then they must behave like Professional men...not boys with money.
WE dont have a plan for the players today.
WE dont have a team for the future ?
Who picked the team to go to Ireland?
How can one pick such a team, to play in a WC.
WE need youngers to be available for the next 4 years, if you are not available , not selected.
In reply to sgtdjones
oh rainbow.!!! Murray!!!
Man says...
the other UNPICKED players seeing the ONE FOOT PLAYER who was picked must have said...Waiit this one foot man better than me??
Murray hitting nail on head.
Oshane...
Should not have been picked after his speed disappeared...PLUS he was bowling at the death.... what the france??
I wonder if any of these Legends will challenge Floyd for some team decisions on LIVE radio
WE have lots of Talented players in The Caribbean,
WE dont have a system to get them to the next level.
Have we not learned by what we have seen over the last two
decades.
How can we send a one foot player to the WC?
Players are short of stamina, and have not done the hard work. Players need to run and get in shape. Lack of preparation.
The lack of playing Roach ?
West Indies team short sighted , cause every thing was short bowling.
Reifer on LIVE...and the Legends are now off the air.
In reply to sgtdjones
HOpefully those questions will be posed now
Reifer being a politician praising every body even powen?
In reply to sgtdjones
Listen i admit I was happy for him..He had momentum...
I did not think his we are entertainers comment was the right mental focus..
one could accuse him of thinking the fellas was on a blasted karaoke stage cause they played some crap after that.
In reply to sgtdjones
Ass lickers do this sort of thing. I have lost all respect. Just do the needful...no need to praise any one in authority. It shows his mindset. Only in the Caribbean.
In reply to Courtesy
He is actually saying what Murray just said
In reply to Courtesy
He admits that Kemar had back issues
Oh boy..Clive LLOYD on with Reifer FLLOYD
Coach will pay more attention to fitness level of players selected. So this was not done for the WC?
The system needs to improve, we have been saying so for over two decades ?
WE must have better coaching at the U15 level plus ?
WE took a team to WC that was not the best at fitness.
In reply to sgtdjones
He basically is saying that a Good few of the boys were carrying INjuries
sigh...
Caught between a rock and a hard place...
makes Bravos poor form all the more painful too...
In reply to sgtdjones
Philo like he reading my posts online...
asking Bout Bravo right on cue.
Lloyd
We were playing 20 over cricket, and giving away wickets .
WE have talents but the hard work must be done at the 14, 15 , 16 year olds.
Why was lil B a failure at the WC?
Why did we not adapt to conditions in Batting and Bowling?
What were the coaching staff doing?
Strange that other players in foreign teams adapted, why didn't CWI players ?
In reply to sgtdjones
rhetorical question...
Well just look at the distribution of the contracts for an indication of the muddled thinking.
In reply to Larr Pullo
fair enough.
Ill have a look...I havent to be honest.
In reply to Larr Pullo
WE are not out of the woods.
WE did so many things wrong , with the selection,
then players to play on the field.
WE were missing a batter all tourney, yet they were on the bench. A senior bat plays 3 games and our best bowler the same
We were playing the wrong bowlers for various games.
Our strategy short pitch bowling that teams adapted to.
That is what Winning does Doc Forde...
It fires up the lads.
Its really a huge disappointment to hear these confessions of not fully fit lads....
injured lads...and fellas simply not fit.
One of my staff took one look at one of the youngest bowlers and saw him huffing and puffing and asked out loud....
HOW HE MAKE the TEAM and Cant Bowl without being fagged out after 3 overs??
could hear a pin drop....
I aint call Oshane name...but she meant him!
Why are they talking about India and Aus in the 70s? Examine what went on last week and the week before.
Our Best teams were very fit. When one isn't fit,it shows like our players did at this WC?
Limited concentration when one is not fit.
WE have players that can be the best but we picked a team
that cannot carry on after they are set for big scores, owing to lack of fitness.
We have no specialist fielders any more, our standard has dropped.
Pooran...
dat is all
oh crap..
ROHIT...he fit..
Kane Williamson... He fit..
In reply to Larr Pullo
I was about to message Mason and tell him to discuss the just finished match not the bloody 70's
I hope they realize that EVERYTHING that Lloyd just identified as failings can be laid right on the doorstep of the coaching staff!!!
The team is young and you need coaches who KNOW what they are doing.
Reiner and Griffith and them do not!!!
In reply to Larr Pullo
thats a litte premature Larr...
the men just reached and had just come off of successful stints in the region.
BUT yes..COACHING is the issue...
IF a player refuses or has a poor attitude to the efforts of the coaching staff...Bench them...
it is that simple
In reply to Larr Pullo
Spot on.
In reply to powen001
Do what Stanford did , send them home.
What happen to Reifer , he gawn kuntry ?
In reply to powen001
Come on...they were clueless in every aspect of managing this team. I cannot point to one positive coming out of the World Cup. Not one!!!
Well Pooran could flat out bat!!! But what do they do? They give him a white ball contract!!!
In reply to sgtdjones
a few Bajans feel like you and Larr...but I want to give him a few more months...the Indian tour should be revealing.
Chief Selecta on now .
He knew it was a lousy team , he came back home before tourney ended.
Strange how the ones that need to be questioned are having phone problems?
In reply to Larr Pullo
I know my position is not the strongest given what we saw...but Floyd came on and admitted that a few of the players were actually not FIT..and others injured...
they went in with short deck of cards...and were hoping for the best.
In reply to Larr Pullo
Larr, Pooran is a T20 player any longer format , his fitness will be questioned and he will be found lacking.
Notice he gets good starts but cannot carry thru.
Robert Haynes hiding from the question
yes...agreed..
Cotteral looked good.
He truly improved
In reply to Narper
Reifer, Haynes are having phone problems ...
thats strange ?
In reply to Narper
Phone issues..
We lost Clive and Floyd to bad connections...
In reply to sgtdjones
You could get fit. The fact that he scored a hundred and went on a bit tells me that he is there or thereabouts. What impressed me more so, was his approach to his innings, especially when contrasted with Hety.
In reply to powen001
Powen send a text to mason !!!!!
Get every player to bat 100 balls in any tourney.
Why didn't they do such when batting?
Fazeer on now
Bouncing out the opposition was one dimensional...only worked against Pak and OZ
In reply to sgtdjones
Why didn't they do such when batting?
Very good suggestion...as simple as it sounds..as a People Coach...that stuff actually works wonders.
simple step approach
Philo is on PHILO all evening lol
He has a point!
INDIA is coming
In reply to Narper
Short bowling tactics was dumb Narps?
Team adjusted
The question on Daren Bravo again asked Philo Wallace
Fazeer is correct...but what it says to me is that BRAVO has to pull himself up by the boot straps!!
MAson doing his slippery thing...PYBUS angle...playing the Cameron card
Fazeer emphatically states Chris Gayle career is over
Fazeer...Chris Gayles career is over...UNLESS...CWI gives him a contract
Piebus was a failure during both tenures at CWI
In reply to powen001
This does not conform with your view does it?
I really dont want Australia winning this WC....
India has my blessing...
ROHIT can go for a golden Ton Run all the way
Courtesy
Look I like Gayle , but thanks for the memories.
He should not be selected, enjoy your retirement.
In reply to Courtesy
No..
Gayle as much as I love the lad...
has to walk away....
And Fazeer really ruined his optics of going for ODIs matches.. 298 to 300
called out Chris's gameplan lololol
In reply to powen001
Now, do you recall your comment to Star when I made the very same comment?
In reply to powen001
Gayle as much as I love the lad...
has to walk away....
And Fazeer really ruined his optics of going for ODIs matches.. 298 to 300 big grin big grin
called out Chris's gameplan lololol
So why did you agree with Star on the other thread?
In reply to Courtesy
which aspect did you misread?
Um cut off
In reply to powen001
Link.
In reply to Courtesy
powen gats phone problems also....
In reply to Courtesy
You gonna meek Powen hang up...
In reply to Courtesy
There is a difference between HOW we send our players off and giving players SPECIAL attention.
I agree that GAYLE deserves a proper retirement ....and quite frankly when I speak I am thinking that Gayle should play against India once fit...as his farewell..
but not beyond that.
is that clear?
In reply to Larr Pullo & Sarge
funny...I still here.. lol...
Fire de damn coach!!! They have identified the problem and not belling de cat!!!
In reply to Courtesy
This is my catalyst
i have long argued that we treat our star boys awfully.
that is what drew me to the thread.... and my caveat is that I dont however believe that the CWI MUST anything...I actually would say it would be a WELCOME change as to how we have treated our star lads.
Look at Tendy...versus every one of our boys from Lara down...and see the difference.
In reply to powen001
Are you quoting me above?
In reply to powen001
It have dancing with the stars in Barbados???
In reply to Larr Pullo
In reply to powen001
Powen
Ya digging a deeper hole, it's wise to admit
and move on.
In reply to Larr Pullo
you think that match against Bangladesh was the coach?
Gabriel..was awful
Oshane didnt know where he was after Australia match
Holder was visibly unfocused
Hetmeyer...the less said the better...
Cotteral... good show in ALL aspects
Pooran- A tiger in the making.
C Brath- exceeded my expectations
Russell...- stole someone who was fit spot
Gayle...just didnt fire this time.
Roach- outbowled the fitter bowlers...and was carry a back injury
In reply to Courtesy
no thats STAR ...let me amend
In reply to sgtdjones
Powen still playing a set of strokes and all now he middle stump 25 yards back by the wicket keeper...
In reply to powen001
SMFH
In reply to Larr Pullo
you dont miss a beat lolol
nice one...yuh joker!!
In reply to Larr Pullo
hahahahahaha
In reply to powen001
The match against Bangladesh? That was God Awful tactics!!!
In reply to Courtesy
you posted the old link and now shaking your head?
In reply to Larr Pullo
that was brain less..
that had my family and my entire staff depressed for hours...
I have never seen such a piss poor match in my life...
and Oshane hustlin in and panting like a puss to only hear BRAXXXXXX six more runs...BRAXXXX four more runs...haunts me
man wants to investigate WARNER HA HA HA HA HA
Larr...tht is you?
ha ha ha ..Man says that what is lacking is B R A I N..
ha ha ha ..
In reply to Courtesy
powen seems to be one dimensional tonite like he coach Reifer and he not changing even if he getting licks.
In reply to sgtdjones
man that was the first STINT
I am saying... Lets discuss after India..
thats all I am saying
plus he is INTERIM coach...rest yuh foot.
In reply to powen001
You are sumting else
Thanks for the laughter
thanks for riding along gents...show is over...
I have some guitar to practice.
In reply to sgtdjones
you hit me good tonight..almost felt like you and Larr were tag teaming in the same room
In reply to sgtdjones
Reifer and Powen are big jokes.
In reply to Courtesy
man..dont be disCOURTEOUS
In reply to powen001
The freaking Fact is that the failures
in West Indies Cricket Problems are
Systemic & Structural .
In my opinion , it aint that People
are unaware of what must be done . They know what must be done , but They
bluntly refuse to do what needs to be
done .
They are not only Power Hungry , THEY
are ,it seems , endowed with PMS , aka
PLANTATION MENTALITY SYNDROME .
They decided to maintain & keep intact the 111 years old Structure
that they inherited .
The People who founded the WICBC 111 years ago did not concieve Cricket as being a serious Business , sadly
,neither has Successive Members of the Worst International Cricket Board in the Commonwealth , aka the
WICBC .
OUR FORMER PLAYERS WHO WERE IN
CHARGE OF THE SHORTEST VERSION OF
THE GAME IN THEIR BRIEF STINT OF
BEING IN CHARGE OF THIS FORMAT OF
THE GAME PRODUCED A TEMPLATE THAT
MADE OUR PLAYERS IN THIS VERSION OF
THE GAME WIN 2 CONSECUTIVE WORLD
CHAMPIONSHIPS .
Interestingly , when the WICBC regained control of this version of
the game ; those Former Players were
sacked . I do not recall anyone in
the WICBC , Thanking them for their
Stewardship .
I also do not recall any of the WICBC SERFS in the Media thanking those Former Players for their Services in this format of the game.
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