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Coach Floyd on Mason this evening

 
powen001 2019-07-09 21:26:34 

I want Floyd to get a run

but

I feeling to call and tell him I really didnt agree with his " the lads are entertainers" comment...

I understand what he was trying to do...and as much as the lads are actively saying it was not his fault to blame them....

It doesnt quite work that way...

Live Link to Mason today

 
hotarobin 2019-07-09 21:54:05 

In reply to powen001

will be very interesting to hear your views on the quality of his interview....I don't find that he communicates very effectively...I saw an interview with him and he just seemed void of ideas and the ability to get his point over convincingly...

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:01:49 

In reply to hotarobin

thing is...The guys like how he leads them...and yes...personally I wish he was more articulate as clarity of thought and expression is huge for me when called to a leadership position.

I have always respected his will to get the job done and remain focused.

the years of Reifer versus Ganga teams were Epic ...and ought to have lead to the birth of some serious growth in both Bim and TnT camps but it didnt quite pan out that way.

 
natty_forever 2019-07-09 22:04:39 

In reply to powen001"
thing is...The guys like how he leads them"

Who said that? Your wife?

 
hotarobin 2019-07-09 22:20:08 

In reply to powen001

clarity of thought and expression is huge for me when called to a leadership position.
me too but how do you reconcile your views on him versus your very valid views on Thomas?

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:20:30 

In reply to natty_forever

no..you need to keep up.

that was reported yesterday mate.

fellas said to blame them and not the coach.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:21:39 

In reply to hotarobin

Floyd needs work in that area.

He gets his point across but personally I feel he can be better before the mics.

Kraigg Brathwaite too in my opinion.

Show just started

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:21:59 

Derek Murray on.

 
natty_forever 2019-07-09 22:22:51 

In reply to powen001

I am up wid you! trust me!
Wolf in sheep clothing!

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:23:10 

says we were the last team to qualify so finishing 9th didnt defy the ranking given.


Its how we lost that gets his goat...

I concur

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:23:43 

In reply to natty_forever

i regret not having a link for you .

I heard it on the news

 
natty_forever 2019-07-09 22:24:49 

In reply to powen001

I still vex.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:27:09 

In reply to natty_forever

lol lol lol

nuff ppl with you too..

matter of fact ... quite a few Bajans...

I asked myself if I am giving him a break and asking for a run...cause I consider him a friend OORR am I being fair and...patient.


I told myself...I am being fair and patient...He literally just came in before the WC.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:28:38 

The Russell experiment was one of the biggest messes ever -

He is an enigma...

Philo asking for Positives from Derek Murray lol lol lol lol

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:30:40 

Murray says he is vindicated...

T 20 style showed up in the 50 overs ad nauseum which is not good... and he says he knew it would happen..

I think Roston may have made a difference... we needed more level heads

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:33:43 

Murray bro...
The LEGACY you speak of is not being felt in the bellies of our lads who can basically purchase whatever they want and not be aware of those ties that binded the Original WINDIES team of yesteryear.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 22:38:22 

Murray tired of the we are seeing positives?

We had a few positives that lead us to nowhere.

WE need a short term, medium and long term plan.

Let's take a 7 year plan , take the 13 year olds and
have them in a setup where at 20 years old they can
play at the highest level with any one today.

Who developed our coaching manual? It obviously dont work,so many flaws in our players.

WE have thrown out what made us the best at what we did in the past, and went to the video era, which did not work for the last decades.

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 22:39:30 

In reply to sgtdjones

Very good summary of what Murray is actually advancing.

I am not sure the thread starter has the ability to so do.

Thanks. Good summary.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:40:32 

In reply to Courtesy

agreed.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:40:55 

Andy on now too..

boy ..his face didnt hide his anguish during those matches at all

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:42:15 

In reply to sgtdjones

I believe that when we win ...we end up fooling ourselves that all is well...but...clearly not.

the 50 over version has really exposed us in the past few years.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 22:43:47 

In reply to Courtesy

Listen pardner

What murray is saying you have posted various threads
on the topics.

You have the finger on the problems.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 22:45:50 

In reply to powen001

WE have forgotten what made us number one

now we are following other nations that led us to
two decades of failures.

WE need to get back to basics at an early age.

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 22:45:59 

In reply to sgtdjones

There is no other way Sarge. It has to be a well thought out systematic approach. As Dr. Forde alluded to "it's a systemic failure."

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:48:37 

In reply to Courtesy

agreed.


but I fear that we been saying this ...for a few years now...

I am not sure what the Skeritts Ethos is...but surely something has to happen...

players want to be men then they must behave like Professional men...not boys with money.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 22:48:42 

WE dont have a plan for the players today.

WE dont have a team for the future ?

Who picked the team to go to Ireland?

How can one pick such a team, to play in a WC.

WE need youngers to be available for the next 4 years, if you are not available , not selected.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:49:56 

In reply to sgtdjones

oh rainbow.!!! Murray!!!

Man says...

the other UNPICKED players seeing the ONE FOOT PLAYER who was picked must have said...Waiit this one foot man better than me?? big grin big grin

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:50:58 

Murray hitting nail on head.

Oshane...

Should not have been picked after his speed disappeared...PLUS he was bowling at the death.... what the france??

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:52:21 

I wonder if any of these Legends will challenge Floyd for some team decisions on LIVE radio

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 22:52:27 

WE have lots of Talented players in The Caribbean,

WE dont have a system to get them to the next level.

Have we not learned by what we have seen over the last two
decades.

How can we send a one foot player to the WC?

Players are short of stamina, and have not done the hard work. Players need to run and get in shape. Lack of preparation.

The lack of playing Roach ?

West Indies team short sighted , cause every thing was short bowling.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:52:56 

Reifer on LIVE...and the Legends are now off the air.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:53:32 

In reply to sgtdjones

HOpefully those questions will be posed now

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 22:54:08 

Reifer being a politician praising every body even powen?

lol lol lol

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:56:56 

In reply to sgtdjones

lol lol lol lol

Listen i admit I was happy for him..He had momentum...

I did not think his we are entertainers comment was the right mental focus..

one could accuse him of thinking the fellas was on a blasted karaoke stage cause they played some crap after that.

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 22:57:40 

In reply to sgtdjones

Reifer being a politician praising every body even powen?

Ass lickers do this sort of thing. I have lost all respect. Just do the needful...no need to praise any one in authority. It shows his mindset. Only in the Caribbean.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:58:37 

In reply to Courtesy

He is actually saying what Murray just said big grin

 
powen001 2019-07-09 22:59:02 

In reply to Courtesy

He admits that Kemar had back issues

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:00:02 

Oh boy..Clive LLOYD on with Reifer FLLOYD

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:00:03 

Coach will pay more attention to fitness level of players selected. So this was not done for the WC?

The system needs to improve, we have been saying so for over two decades ?

WE must have better coaching at the U15 level plus ?

WE took a team to WC that was not the best at fitness.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:01:45 

In reply to sgtdjones

He basically is saying that a Good few of the boys were carrying INjuries


sigh...

Caught between a rock and a hard place...

makes Bravos poor form all the more painful too...

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:02:56 

In reply to sgtdjones

Philo like he reading my posts online...



big grin

asking Bout Bravo right on cue.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:03:15 

Lloyd

We were playing 20 over cricket, and giving away wickets .

WE have talents but the hard work must be done at the 14, 15 , 16 year olds.

Why was lil B a failure at the WC?

Why did we not adapt to conditions in Batting and Bowling?

What were the coaching staff doing?

Strange that other players in foreign teams adapted, why didn't CWI players ?

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:04:19 

In reply to sgtdjones

rhetorical question...


cry

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:05:15 

Well just look at the distribution of the contracts for an indication of the muddled thinking.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:06:33 

In reply to Larr Pullo

fair enough.

Ill have a look...I havent to be honest.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:08:14 

In reply to Larr Pullo

WE are not out of the woods.

WE did so many things wrong , with the selection,
then players to play on the field.

WE were missing a batter all tourney, yet they were on the bench. A senior bat plays 3 games and our best bowler the same
We were playing the wrong bowlers for various games.

Our strategy short pitch bowling that teams adapted to.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:10:59 

That is what Winning does Doc Forde...

It fires up the lads.


Its really a huge disappointment to hear these confessions of not fully fit lads....

injured lads...and fellas simply not fit.

One of my staff took one look at one of the youngest bowlers and saw him huffing and puffing and asked out loud....
HOW HE MAKE the TEAM and Cant Bowl without being fagged out after 3 overs??

could hear a pin drop....

I aint call Oshane name...but she meant him!

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:11:17 

Why are they talking about India and Aus in the 70’s? Examine what went on last week and the week before.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:11:43 

Our Best teams were very fit. When one isn't fit,it shows like our players did at this WC?

Limited concentration when one is not fit.

WE have players that can be the best but we picked a team
that cannot carry on after they are set for big scores, owing to lack of fitness.

We have no specialist fielders any more, our standard has dropped.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:11:59 

Pooran...

dat is all

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:13:04 

oh crap..

ROHIT...he fit..

Kane Williamson... He fit..

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:14:19 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Why are they talking about India and Aus in the 70’s? Examine what went on last week and the week before.



I was about to message Mason and tell him to discuss the just finished match not the bloody 70's

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:16:47 

I hope they realize that EVERYTHING that Lloyd just identified as failings can be laid right on the doorstep of the coaching staff!!!

The team is young and you need coaches who KNOW what they are doing.

Reiner and Griffith and them do not!!!

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:18:04 

In reply to Larr Pullo

thats a litte premature Larr...

the men just reached and had just come off of successful stints in the region.


BUT yes..COACHING is the issue...

IF a player refuses or has a poor attitude to the efforts of the coaching staff...Bench them...

it is that simple

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:19:04 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Reiner and Griffith and them do not!!!


Spot on.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:19:56 

In reply to powen001

IF a player refuses or has a poor attitude to the efforts of the coaching staff...Bench them...


Do what Stanford did , send them home. evil

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:21:08 

What happen to Reifer , he gawn kuntry ?

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:21:18 

In reply to powen001

Come on...they were clueless in every aspect of managing this team. I cannot point to one positive coming out of the World Cup. Not one!!!

Well Pooran could flat out bat!!! But what do they do? They give him a white ball contract!!!

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:21:39 

In reply to sgtdjones

a few Bajans feel like you and Larr...but I want to give him a few more months...the Indian tour should be revealing.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:22:29 

Chief Selecta on now .

He knew it was a lousy team , he came back home before tourney ended.

Strange how the ones that need to be questioned are having phone problems?

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:23:00 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Come on...they were clueless in every aspect of managing this team. I cannot point to one positive coming out of the World Cup. Not one!!!


I know my position is not the strongest given what we saw...but Floyd came on and admitted that a few of the players were actually not FIT..and others injured...


they went in with short deck of cards...and were hoping for the best.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:23:56 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Larr, Pooran is a T20 player any longer format , his fitness will be questioned and he will be found lacking.

Notice he gets good starts but cannot carry thru.

 
Narper 2019-07-09 23:24:28 

Robert Haynes hiding from the question wink

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:25:30 

yes...agreed..

Cotteral looked good.
He truly improved

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:26:01 

In reply to Narper

Reifer, Haynes are having phone problems ...
thats strange ?

lol lol lol

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:26:05 

In reply to Narper

lol lol

Phone issues..

We lost Clive and Floyd to bad connections...

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:26:40 

In reply to sgtdjones

You could get fit. The fact that he scored a hundred and went on a bit tells me that he is there or thereabouts. What impressed me more so, was his approach to his innings, especially when contrasted with Hety.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:27:38 

In reply to powen001

Powen send a text to mason !!!!!

Get every player to bat 100 balls in any tourney.
Why didn't they do such when batting?

 
Narper 2019-07-09 23:28:47 

Fazeer on now

Bouncing out the opposition was one dimensional...only worked against Pak and OZ

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:29:27 

In reply to sgtdjones

Get every player to bat 100 balls in any tourney.
Why didn't they do such when batting?


Very good suggestion...as simple as it sounds..as a People Coach...that stuff actually works wonders. big grin

simple step approach

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:30:10 

Philo is on PHILO all evening lol

He has a point!

INDIA is coming

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:30:42 

In reply to Narper

Short bowling tactics was dumb Narps?

Team adjusted

 
Narper 2019-07-09 23:30:51 

The question on Daren Bravo again asked Philo Wallace

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:31:11 

Fazeer is correct...but what it says to me is that BRAVO has to pull himself up by the boot straps!!

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:31:39 

MAson doing his slippery thing...PYBUS angle...playing the Cameron card big grin

 
Narper 2019-07-09 23:33:27 

Fazeer emphatically states Chris Gayle career is over

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:33:27 

Fazeer...Chris Gayles career is over...UNLESS...CWI gives him a contract

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:33:48 

Piebus was a failure during both tenures at CWI

evil

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 23:34:56 

In reply to powen001

Fazeer...Chris Gayles career is over...UNLESS...CWI gives him a contract

This does not conform with your view does it?

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:35:21 

I really dont want Australia winning this WC....


India has my blessing...
ROHIT can go for a golden Ton Run all the way big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:36:23 

Courtesy

Look I like Gayle , but thanks for the memories.

He should not be selected, enjoy your retirement.

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:36:33 

In reply to Courtesy

No..


Gayle as much as I love the lad...

has to walk away....

And Fazeer really ruined his optics of going for ODIs matches.. 298 to 300 big grin big grin

called out Chris's gameplan lololol big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 23:37:33 

In reply to powen001

Now, do you recall your comment to Star when I made the very same comment?

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 23:40:39 

In reply to powen001

No..


Gayle as much as I love the lad...

has to walk away....

And Fazeer really ruined his optics of going for ODIs matches.. 298 to 300 big grin big grin

called out Chris's gameplan lololol


So why did you agree with Star on the other thread?

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:41:50 

In reply to Courtesy

which aspect did you misread?

 
Narper 2019-07-09 23:42:32 

Um cut off big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 23:43:37 

In reply to powen001

Link.

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:43:48 

In reply to Courtesy

powen gats phone problems also.... razz razz razz

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:44:22 

In reply to Courtesy

You gonna meek Powen hang up... lol lol

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:44:27 

In reply to Courtesy

There is a difference between HOW we send our players off and giving players SPECIAL attention.


I agree that GAYLE deserves a proper retirement ....and quite frankly when I speak I am thinking that Gayle should play against India once fit...as his farewell..



but not beyond that.


is that clear?

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:45:06 

In reply to Larr Pullo & Sarge



funny...I still here.. lol...


lol lol lol

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:47:21 

Fire de damn coach!!! They have identified the problem and not belling de cat!!!

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:47:36 

In reply to Courtesy

STAR SAID- So your logic is because Viv, Lara and Chandlers got crappy treatment from CWI, the same crappy treatment should be meted out to Gayle?



This is my catalyst


i have long argued that we treat our star boys awfully.


that is what drew me to the thread.... and my caveat is that I dont however believe that the CWI MUST anything...I actually would say it would be a WELCOME change as to how we have treated our star lads.

Look at Tendy...versus every one of our boys from Lara down...and see the difference.

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 23:48:41 

In reply to powen001

Are you quoting me above?

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:48:58 

In reply to powen001

It have dancing with the stars in Barbados???

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 23:49:24 

In reply to Larr Pullo

lol lol lol

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:49:29 

In reply to powen001

Powen

Ya digging a deeper hole, it's wise to admit

and move on.



razz razz razz razz

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:51:38 

In reply to Larr Pullo

you think that match against Bangladesh was the coach?


Gabriel..was awful

Oshane didnt know where he was after Australia match

Holder was visibly unfocused

Hetmeyer...the less said the better...

Cotteral... good show in ALL aspects

Pooran- A tiger in the making.

C Brath- exceeded my expectations

Russell...- stole someone who was fit spot

Gayle...just didnt fire this time.

Roach- outbowled the fitter bowlers...and was carry a back injury

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:52:10 

In reply to Courtesy

no thats STAR ...let me amend big grin

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:52:28 

In reply to sgtdjones

Powen still playing a set of strokes and all now he middle stump 25 yards back by the wicket keeper... lol lol lol

 
Courtesy 2019-07-09 23:52:48 

In reply to powen001

no thats STAR ...let me amend

SMFH

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:53:05 

In reply to Larr Pullo

It have dancing with the stars in Barbados??


you dont miss a beat lolol


nice one...yuh joker!!

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:53:15 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Powen still playing a set of strokes and all now he middle stump 25 yards back by the wicket keeper..


hahahahahaha

razz razz

 
Larr Pullo 2019-07-09 23:53:41 

In reply to powen001

The match against Bangladesh? That was God Awful tactics!!!

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:53:50 

In reply to Courtesy

you posted the old link and now shaking your head? big grin

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:55:04 

In reply to Larr Pullo

that was brain less..

that had my family and my entire staff depressed for hours...

I have never seen such a piss poor match in my life...

and Oshane hustlin in and panting like a puss to only hear BRAXXXXXX six more runs...BRAXXXX four more runs...haunts me

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:57:09 

man wants to investigate WARNER HA HA HA HA HA

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:58:29 

Larr...tht is you?


ha ha ha ..Man says that what is lacking is B R A I N..


ha ha ha ..

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-09 23:58:50 

In reply to Courtesy

powen seems to be one dimensional tonite like he coach Reifer and he not changing even if he getting licks.

razz razz razz razz

 
powen001 2019-07-09 23:59:28 

In reply to sgtdjones

man that was the first STINT

I am saying... Lets discuss after India..



thats all I am saying

plus he is INTERIM coach...rest yuh foot.
big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-07-10 00:00:44 

In reply to powen001

You are sumting else

Thanks for the laughter

razz razz

 
powen001 2019-07-10 00:00:58 

thanks for riding along gents...show is over...

I have some guitar to practice. big grin

 
powen001 2019-07-10 00:01:27 

In reply to sgtdjones

you hit me good tonight..almost felt like you and Larr were tag teaming in the same room lol lol lol

 
Courtesy 2019-07-10 00:03:58 

In reply to sgtdjones

Reifer and Powen are big jokes.

 
powen001 2019-07-10 00:07:06 

In reply to Courtesy

lol lol

man..dont be disCOURTEOUS big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-07-10 00:17:43 

In reply to powen001

lol lol lol

 
POINT 2019-07-10 02:47:41 

The freaking Fact is that the failures
in West Indies Cricket Problems are
Systemic & Structural .

In my opinion , it aint that People
are unaware of what must be done . They know what must be done , but They
bluntly refuse to do what needs to be
done .

They are not only Power Hungry , THEY
are ,it seems , endowed with PMS , aka

PLANTATION MENTALITY SYNDROME .

They decided to maintain & keep intact the 111 years old Structure
that they inherited .

The People who founded the WICBC 111 years ago did not concieve Cricket as being a serious Business , sadly
,neither has Successive Members of the Worst International Cricket Board in the Commonwealth , aka the
WICBC .

OUR FORMER PLAYERS WHO WERE IN

CHARGE OF THE SHORTEST VERSION OF

THE GAME IN THEIR BRIEF STINT OF

BEING IN CHARGE OF THIS FORMAT OF

THE GAME PRODUCED A TEMPLATE THAT

MADE OUR PLAYERS IN THIS VERSION OF

THE GAME WIN 2 CONSECUTIVE WORLD

CHAMPIONSHIPS .

Interestingly , when the WICBC regained control of this version of
the game ; those Former Players were
sacked . I do not recall anyone in
the WICBC , Thanking them for their
Stewardship .

I also do not recall any of the WICBC SERFS in the Media thanking those Former Players for their Services in this format of the game.