Kapil Dev says WI need leader like a Lloyd

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link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 15, 2017
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7/11/19, 11:48:45 PM 
Kapil Dev says WI need leader like a Lloyd

Leg­endary for­mer In­di­an cap­tain Kapil Dev says the West In­dies team has all that it takes to be a good one but needs a charis­mat­ic leader like a Clive Lloyd to bring them to­geth­er. He is sug­gest­ing Lloyd be giv­en a con­sul­tan­cy po­si­tion with the team to be­gin that process.

Dev made the com­ment as he was do­ing com­men­tary on the ICC World Cup se­mi-fi­nal be­tween In­di­an and New Zealand at Old Traf­ford, Man­ches­ter, yes­ter­day, a match the Ki­wis won in stun­ning fash­ion by 18 runs to ad­vance to their sec­ond straight fi­nal.

Af­ter win­ning their open­ing World Cup game against Pak­istan by sev­en wick­ets at Trent Bridge on May 31, skip­per Ja­son Hold­er's West In­dies went win­less in their next sev­en match­es be­fore win­ning their last game against Afghanistan to fin­ish ninth among 10 teams in the tour­na­ment.

The less than flat­ter­ing per­for­mance of the team has led to an avalanche of crit­i­cism from var­i­ous stake­hold­ers, who have pin­point­ed the con­tin­u­ing is­sues of play­er se­lec­tion, prepa­ra­tion and the frag­ment­ed Crick­et West In­dies man­age­ment go­ing in­to the tour­na­ment as of the is­sues which must be dealt with if fu­ture teams are to ful­fil their po­ten­tial.

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link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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7/12/19, 5:59:46 AM 
In reply to sgtdjones

We'll make Clive Lloyd the next WICB President.

That might translate to good leadership both on and off the field.

link Khaga Joined: Mar 28, 2016
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7/12/19, 6:05:17 AM 
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Soup stocks overflowing?

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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7/12/19, 6:31:36 AM 
In reply to Khaga

You must love Clive Lloyd's resilience. He has been rejected so many times but he just keeps coming back.

That's what leadership is made of!

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: May 31, 2005
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7/12/19, 6:39:25 AM 
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Is it Lloyd making the comments...or is it Kapil Dev?

link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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7/12/19, 6:50:45 AM 
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Lloyd is and remains the template for all leadership across all formats across ALL cricketing nations and his fellow West Indians chose to disparage him.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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7/12/19, 7:33:56 AM 
In reply to Larr Pullo

you mean by unnuh guyanese of a certain persuasion, especially Narper

link Narper Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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7/12/19, 7:45:35 AM 
He is sug­gest­ing Lloyd be giv­en a con­sul­tan­cy po­si­tion with the team to be­gin that process.


He has had that position for 20+ years.

He has been a dismal failure.

Great cricketer...great cappo...poor administrator

link Narper Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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7/12/19, 7:49:36 AM 
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STFU dumb bajan of your persuasion

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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7/12/19, 7:53:38 AM 
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that is a relief. at least you didnt cuss Lloyd. at least not yet

link Narper Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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7/12/19, 7:57:11 AM 
In reply to sudden

I cuss Lloyd when he deserves cussing...

link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 15, 2017
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7/12/19, 8:56:58 AM 
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STFU dumb bajan of your persuasion


razz razz razz razz razz

link granite Joined: Oct 31, 2013
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7/12/19, 9:12:52 AM 
Kapil Dev going senile in his old age.

link Khaga Joined: Mar 28, 2016
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7/12/19, 9:20:09 AM 
In reply to granite

May be..but he isnt looking for handouts from the ICC or his board..

link Devin Joined: Aug 31, 2003
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7/12/19, 10:04:48 AM 
Stevie Wonder could've captained the West Indies teams of the late 70's and 80's and they would've been just as successful.

link granite Joined: Oct 31, 2013
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7/12/19, 11:35:22 AM 
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Kapil Dev was one of my favourite players and one of the stories he told was,when he was 14 and was called up for training with several other aspiring players he was given 2 chapattis to go with some vegetable curry for lunch.He immediately complained to an official saying,"i am a fast bowler and that food wasn't enough",the official looked at him and said,"young man,there is no such thing as a fast bowler in India".

lol lol lol

link jacksprat Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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7/12/19, 11:57:43 AM 
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Just, maybe, we need a stacked team like the ones Lloyd led during the 70s-early 80s. Since then he has failed at ever position he has tried in cricket.

Moreover, "Ambassador" Lloyd has so mortgaged his credibility at the altar of expediency that he even allowed himself to be unceremoniously kicked to the curb by the Big Idiot.

He is another one who should go gently into the good night instead of continuing to embarrass himself !

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: May 31, 2005
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7/12/19, 12:03:08 PM 
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But lloyd isn't quoted here. It is Kapil Dev

link jacksprat Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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7/12/19, 12:09:44 PM 
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Doesn't matter, he is constantly quoted elsewhere!

He should just go, and take Gayle,Sammy & The Big Idiot with him!

link RonaldM Joined: May 30, 2019
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7/12/19, 2:04:21 PM 
Lloyd had lots of chances. He was the one who pushed Jason Holder as a leader few years ago. Look at how that turned out. Everyone complained during WC of his captaincy.
Having said that, Lloyd was a great captain. I don’t care how much talent you have in a team, you have to get maximum performance, and Lloyd did that from his players. Windies is a different animal, in terms of players from many different countries, Lloyd kept them together as a cohesive unit. Lloyd also pioneered the 4 prong, in addition his performance improved tremendously with the responsibility thrusted upon him.

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: May 31, 2005
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7/12/19, 2:11:19 PM 
In reply to jacksprat

I can agree to that big grin

link jcveletta Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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7/12/19, 5:38:28 PM 
In reply to sgtdjones

Dev was always a huge windes fan mate.

link Curtis Joined: Dec 3, 2002
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7/12/19, 5:48:22 PM 
In reply to RonaldM

Well said

link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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7/12/19, 6:44:06 PM 
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How come Holder looked like a competent captain against England, then all at sea during the World Cup? What happened?

link Priapus Joined: Dec 29, 2014
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7/12/19, 7:24:45 PM 
In reply to Larr Pullo

How come Holder looked like a competent captain against England, then all at sea during the World Cup? What happened?


The injured "stars" did not play in the Caribbean.

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