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Concussion Substitutes

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-19 18:49:59 

Has this been discussed on this board?

 
runout 2019-08-19 19:28:14 

In reply to culpepperboy

Was thinking the same. Curious about the timing of the implementation.

Anyways, could have been anyone injured.

Lets hope that this is fairly administered.

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-19 19:34:35 

In reply to runout

What if the substitute gets a concussion? Does he get a substitute?

What about other injuries? Should substitutes not be used in those cases?

 
runout 2019-08-19 19:40:04 

In reply to culpepperboy

I would think that the whole concept of concussion substitution will mandate that if the substitute is injured, then there will be a substitute for that substitute...otherwise that is a broken process.

The substitution is concussion specific....so there cannot be full substitution for physical injuries. That will open a can of worms.

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-20 01:45:15 

In reply to runout

Maybe the can needs to be opened.
Are there any other team sports that don't allow subs for injured players?

 
Norm 2019-08-20 06:52:54 

So, would a self-inflicted concussion procure the same benefits? And does the team suffering the concussion get to choose a replacement?

This could open up all kinds of possibilities ... "Tell Paint to knock 'eself out with 'e bat. He battin' too f*cking slow." smile

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-20 12:55:34 

In reply to Norm

What about other serious injuries? Should subs be allowed for those?

 
Norm 2019-08-20 14:42:28 

In reply to culpepperboy

Yes, subs should be allowed for serious injuries, but an on-field determination of "serious" could be subjective.

 
sgtdjones 2019-08-20 14:45:41 

In reply to Norm

Its opening a can of worms. Problems ahead.

The last innings of a test, my batman who is out of form
has a concussion????....tripped over the rope when Umps wasn't looking.

I can now bring in Lara jr to win the game

 
Norm 2019-08-20 14:51:56 

In reply to sgtdjones

Or he deliberately takes a blow on the helmet from a "fast" bowler like JHo, falls over and starts fluttering like Frankenstein with a bad oil pump. Will become a comedy like footballers trying to get a penalty in the box.

 
Drapsey 2019-08-20 14:58:25 

In reply to sgtdjones

Its opening a can of worms. Problems ahead.

The last innings of a test, my batman who is out of form
has a concussion????....tripped over the rope when Umps wasn't looking.

I can now bring in Lara jr to win the game

The horse already bolted, Sarge.

For some unexplained reason we're in a hurry to baseball-ize cricket.

I could see it coming from the time we started using terms like Batters, and Doug-outs.

They might just make what you described above official with the introduction of the AL's Designated Hitter.

 
sgtdjones 2019-08-20 15:04:32 

In reply to Norm

Or he deliberately takes a blow on the helmet from a "fast" bowler like JHo,


Thanks, you made me spill my Orange juice lol lol lol

 
trev114 2019-08-20 16:45:00 

A more detailed discussion of concussion rule

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-20 17:08:46 

In reply to trev114

I'm confused:

"The playing conditions around concussion replacements are the player needs to be concussed, it needs to happen on the field of play during play, it needs to be replaced with a like-for-like player which is up to the discretion of the match referee and a request for a replacement needs to come within 36 hours of the incident happening," Allardice said.


Yet...
"The treatment of the player is the number one priority with this," said Allardice.

"Whether the player takes no further part in the game is down to the medical staff. Whether there's a replacement available is the secondary consideration.


So why a substitute?

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-20 17:11:11 

It should either be subs for ALL serious injuries, or none at all!!

 
Halliwell 2019-08-20 19:52:32 

In reply to sgtdjones

If you expect Lil B to save that match then you in the bar early o clock lol

 
CricketLuva4 2019-08-20 20:40:03 

One thing I don't believe was discussed above is that the substitute must be a "like for like" replacement. How is that defined?

I disagree with it. Smith played the bouncer poorly, Australia should not be warranted a sub for a lack of competence from the best test batsman in the world (albeit a brief moment). Yes I know it is a head injury so that's more serious especially post Phillip Hughes' death, but still.

If they ever introduced a sub, I'd personally only care for it with "freak" injuries, like being hit at short leg and having your arm broken, or Boucher's eye injury (though he didnt have a helmet).

 
sgtdjones 2019-08-20 21:13:37 

In reply to Halliwell

If you expect Lil B to save that match then you in the bar early o clock lol


lol lol lol lol