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T20, ODI and Test Squad vs AFG

 
positiveg 2019-10-15 15:18:17 

Looks interested
King, Walsh Jr
King
makes their debut

Pretty much for the ODI's too

 
Tryangle 2019-10-15 15:32:57 

Wow.
Both seem very logical moves.
Big loss for the US mind you, but congrats to Walsh on the call-up.

 
positiveg 2019-10-15 15:34:57 

ODI

Pollard
Hope
Lewis
Hetmeyer
Amrbis
Pooran
King
Chase
Holder
Walsh Jr
Pierre
Cottrell
Paul
Shepherd
Joseph

 
positiveg 2019-10-15 15:36:16 

T20

Pollard
Pooran
Lewis
Hetmeyer
Rutherford
King
Allen
Walsh Jr
Holder
Simmons
Pierre
Cottrell
Ramdin
Williams
Joseph

 
positiveg 2019-10-15 15:38:00 

Test

Holder
Hope
Campbell
Brathwaite
Hetmyer
Brooks
Chase
Dowrich
Amris
Warrican
Cornwall
Roach
Paul
Joseph

 
solidrock 2019-10-15 15:42:42 

For most, I have no complaints.

 
Bestian 2019-10-15 15:42:46 

No Gabriel?

 
Drapsey 2019-10-15 15:44:04 

In reply to positiveg

Weh dump OT arredy?

 
Drapsey 2019-10-15 15:45:55 

In reply to positiveg

Ramdin for T20.

That mussa drive Brung crazy.

 
sudden 2019-10-15 15:46:33 

Bravo
Carlos
Thomas
Gabriel

gone
all uh dem gone

 
sunfish 2019-10-15 15:48:29 

No Allen in ODI?

 
sudden 2019-10-15 15:49:28 

glad that Hope is no longer playing T20s.

Holder shouldnt be either

Russell must be injured still and who is this Joseph

 
Bestian 2019-10-15 15:50:54 

In reply to sudden

Nurse gone too

 
VIX 2019-10-15 15:52:08 

whither O'shane

 
sudden 2019-10-15 15:53:03 

In reply to Bestian

yeah - to be expected

 
WIForever 2019-10-15 16:25:34 

In reply to positiveg

Don’t get why a Johnson Charles is not given a chance in T20 again. Man performed in CPL.

 
WIForever 2019-10-15 16:26:47 

Charles over Hetmeyer any day!

 
imusic 2019-10-15 16:27:17 

No complaints. Ramdin is a surprise tho

 
Banner 2019-10-15 16:29:32 

Bravo and Gabriel big surprise drops from the test team.

 
positiveg 2019-10-15 16:32:22 

In reply to WIForever

honest don't know why Charles isn't either. He's done well and is doing well.
He's a lil like th unsung hero cause he's done have two T20 WC's and a CPl championship under his belt, contributes.
Might play a brainless shot here and there but see that a lot in T20 cricket.

 
pariaman 2019-10-15 16:35:01 

Test looks like the weakest team

 
Stilbatn 2019-10-15 16:36:50 

In reply to sudden

AL JO

 
Baje 2019-10-15 16:37:47 

In reply to imusic

No complaints. Ramdin is a surprise tho

I was expecting Charles and Pooran to be the T20 keepers.

 
ray 2019-10-15 16:39:44 

I would have included Hemraj for tests and ODI

 
conman 2019-10-15 16:40:33 

insane to drop angel

hes in the top 20 test bowlers and a proven match winner

 
Priapus 2019-10-15 16:44:21 

Why not King in the test squad for either Braithwaite or Campbell? I know it was a T20 competition but the guy seems to have the goods for the longer format. He played some proper cricket shots.

 
pariaman 2019-10-15 16:44:48 

In reply to conman

TBH I find in his last few games Gabriel has not looked good ditto on Bravo

I think there can be no real complaints that they were both dropped

 
spider 2019-10-15 16:50:13 

is anyone aware of any injury to Gabriel? Can't see why he would be dropped from the test squad.

 
sudden 2019-10-15 16:54:19 

In reply to Stilbatn

of course. forgot him. should not be in all formats. maybe tests and T20s or ODIs?

 
imusic 2019-10-15 16:58:11 

In reply to conman

He didn’t have a good series against India at home

He had a very ooor stint in England with his county

No issue with him having to wheel and come again.

 
Baje 2019-10-15 16:58:45 

In reply to positiveg
Interesting first assignment for coach Phil

 
openning 2019-10-15 16:59:13 

ODI - Kieron Pollard (captain), Evin Lewis, Shai Hope, Shimron Hetmyer, Sunil Ambris, Nicholas Pooran, Brandon King, Jason Holder, Roston Chase, Hayden Walsh Jr, Khary Pierre, Sheldon Cottrell, Romario Shepherd, Keemo Paul, Alzarri Joseph.

T20I - Kieron Pollard (captain), Nicholas Pooran, Brandon King, Shimron Hetmyer, Evin Lewis, Sherfane Rutherford, Jason Holder, Hayden Walsh Jr, Khary Pierre, Sheldon Cottrell, Alzarri Joseph, Lendl Simmons, Fabian Allen, Denesh Ramdin, Kesrick Williams.

Test - Jason Holder (captain), Kraigg Brathwaite, John Campbell, Shai Hope, Shimron Hetmyer, Roston Chase, Sunil Ambris, Shamarh Brooks, Rakheem Cornwall, Shane Dowrich, Jomel Warrican, Kemar Roach, Keemo Paul, Alzarri Joseph.

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doosra 2019-10-15 17:04:52 

No Trini in the test team

fix that Simmo big grin

 
positiveg 2019-10-15 17:05:23 

What surprises me both is seeing Ambris back in the ODI and Tests squad after not given a central contract.
I guess might of been something he did and he shaped up or whatever the reason was.
I hope he can continue to grow though. Cause he didn't do too bad vs Ireland prior to the WC.

Good to see the selectors took the CPL seriously say both Walsh and King performance with ball and bat respectively and included both in the T20's

 
doosra 2019-10-15 17:06:54 

In reply to positiveg

Warrican continues to be the mystery man

not giving Ambris a contract was pure madness

 
sgtdjones 2019-10-15 17:31:20 

In reply to doosra

Naw we not complain about no Trini in Test team.

We go just watch from the sidelines.

Go hetty Go

 
natty_forever 2019-10-15 17:31:41 

Ramdin is back! lol lol

 
positiveg 2019-10-15 17:32:13 

In reply to doosra

You think Warrican migth be like ' Nurse'?

 
ray 2019-10-15 17:43:23 

Weak test team

 
pariaman 2019-10-15 17:44:41 

In reply to ray

I agree Jason have to come real good, bat and bowl like a star, it will not look good if we win the ODI and T20 and lose the test

 
tc1 2019-10-15 17:53:16 

In reply to pariaman

Or it would not be good if we win the test and lost the 1d and T20Is,
What you sayJason is a much skipper than Pouty.

 
tc1 2019-10-15 17:56:27 

In reply to doosra

Browne pick that team .

 
Str8_Drive 2019-10-15 18:08:11 

Video of Announcement

 
pariaman 2019-10-15 18:32:18 

In reply to tc1

Tru but the test team looks weak and I really think they might have a harder time

 
imusic 2019-10-15 18:36:50 

Apparently Gabriel is injured and Aljo came in for him. According to cricinfo

 
imusic 2019-10-15 18:41:04 

In reply to pariaman

The majority of the incumbent test team (barring Bravo..dropped....and Gabriel....apparently injured) has been given the opportunity to stake their claim with the new coach. Again....I have no issue with that.

Bravo has failed in every format:

Test....other than his 200 plus ball 50 against aengland

ODI....in the run up to and every innings he had during the World Cup

T20......poor season with TKR

He obviously needs a lot more work

 
StumpCam 2019-10-15 18:51:16 

Ramdhin selection is a shocker!

 
mikelegend 2019-10-15 18:51:19 

In reply to imusic

4 day FC competition, best way for him to get it together. cool

 
mikelegend 2019-10-15 18:56:16 

In reply to StumpCam

Ramdhin selection is a shocker!


Well...the robust Bramble sat on the Warrior bench for the entire just concluded competition.

 
Judgement 2019-10-15 19:04:50 

In reply to conman

insane to drop angel

He's injured not dropped.

 
Maispwi 2019-10-15 19:18:28 

Bravo must be injured. An organisation cyah give a player an all formats contract and a few months later he cyah mek a team in any of de formats

 
Jumpstart 2019-10-15 19:32:53 

In reply to Maispwi

he's desperately out of form. needs some first class cricket under his belt

 
doosra 2019-10-15 19:38:17 

In reply to positiveg

who these teams playing btw? big grin big grin

 
Maispwi 2019-10-15 19:45:00 

In reply to Jumpstart

So how or why was he awarded an all format contract?

 
Jumpstart 2019-10-15 19:49:35 

In reply to Maispwi

IDK....Bravo is a class player, probably the only class batsman in the WI today......he's shown that on numerous occasions. but he's out of form. the all format contract means he is still very much part of their plans. Picking him at this stage however, will only exacerbate the damage done by the cameron affair

 
DIEHARD 2019-10-15 19:57:27 

In reply to pariaman

TBH I find in his last few games Gabriel has not looked good ditto on Bravo

I think there can be no real complaints that they were both dropped


and using that same argument..why haven't Brathwaite and Hope been dropped?

 
imusic 2019-10-15 20:08:49 

In reply to Maispwi

He’s not the first player to have a retainer contract and not be selected

And if you want to get granular and say he’s the first to have an all formats contract and be dropped, are you suggesting that an all formats contract means a player with such a contact is, or should be, undroppable regardless of performance?

 
Maispwi 2019-10-15 20:09:16 

In reply to Jumpstart

It is a dangerous precedent to set to award contracts dat have not been earned. What happens if he has not played much international cricket by March 31 2020 when the next evaluation period ends?

 
imusic 2019-10-15 20:11:19 

In reply to Maispwi

The very definition of earned includes based on past performance.

You saying Bravo didn’t perform based on his past performances?

He was the WI batsman with the highest test batting average before his exile by the previous administration

He was one of the better performing WI batsmen in ODI format

His performances in CPL prior to this year were outstanding.

His return to the team was righting a wrong. No different than a worker returning to his or her job, position and salary after being away for some time due to wrongful dismissal.

You suggesting that worker should have to start all over to prove themselves before being reinstated?

 
Maispwi 2019-10-15 20:22:39 

In reply to imusic

Dis is not about Bravo. Dis is about a policy of awarding central contracts that are supposed to be based on performance during a given time period.

If the Board wants to go the way of incentive contracts like how it has done for emerging players then they shud create a separate category but to be awarding performance based contracts where there were no performances to measure is playing with fire.

 
openning 2019-10-15 20:29:07 

In reply to Maispwi
These contracts are not like other International sports contracts, there are yearly.
A player can lose all contracts after a year, it is not like DMB signed a $20 million for 5 years.

 
Maispwi 2019-10-15 20:51:51 

In reply to imusic

His performances in CPL prior to this year were outstanding.


Pal you reaching. In 7 CPL seasons Bravo has passed 300 runs only once, in 2018

 
Maispwi 2019-10-15 20:57:07 

In reply to openning

What does de length of the contract have to do with anything? When an organisation starts awarding performance based contracts on de alleged dat eh based on performance but as hinted to right a wrong dey looking for trouble

 
openning 2019-10-15 21:00:01 

In reply to Maispwi

Your opinion on DMB or any other player contract is yours.
I've no problem with it, dont even need to discuss any other player contract.

 
jen 2019-10-15 22:45:17 

In reply to Maispwi

Bro, you gotta remember who awarded the contracts are totally different than who picked this squad. It was always a farce to give Bravo an all format contract when everyone saw his white ball form was horrible.

So, we can't continue to cover up one mess by committing another. It's better for everyone if Bravo goes back and find form at first class then come back, because make no mistake, he is the best test batsman we've had after Gayle, Sarwan debut. It don't mean even if he out of form he must always play. Its up to him to come and reclaim that tag

 
methodic 2019-10-16 02:02:32 

In reply to jen

I think one of the problems they have with Bravo is his decision not to play in the warm up games in the recently concluded series.

 
mkcharles 2019-10-16 11:29:35 

In reply to methodic

And that is the same problem they had with Jerome Taylor a few seasons back and that recommendation was made by one of his own Cuddy Walsh leading to his infamous “retirement”.

We are all quick to throw selectors under the bus but in reality that job of a West Indies Selector is a very difficult and thankless job.

A lot of these boys are gifted but largely they are lazy and entitled. It goes a long way to explaining many of the so-called selectors picks.

 
dayne 2019-10-16 12:22:20 

If I am not mistaken, the teams selected are only for the limited overs games, the Test team would be selected later, therefore guys like Roach, Gabriel, Bravo and Kraigg would come back in.

 
doosra 2019-10-16 17:42:45 

btw let me just register how

delighted i am for mah bwoy sheps

go do your thing bruh

 
JahJah 2019-10-17 11:20:40 

Ramdin...T20? lolz