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Can Pollard make the team on merit

 
brians_da_best 2019-11-09 11:52:32 

There are enough all rounders to start with. And Pollard is the most bits and pieces of them all. Yes, he might come good once in 10 innings, with a quickfire 30 off 15 balls, but I don't see him bowl much.

I'm told he isn't a specialist captain, so I'll be eagerly following his performances with bat and ball. Hopefully he can contribute and make the team on merit

 
natty_forever 2019-11-09 11:53:46 

We shall see

 
Barry 2019-11-09 11:55:31 

coprophagia to me- two threads surprised

 
velo 2019-11-09 11:57:09 

only in the west indies can a man make a team with such a poor record and be captain too

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 11:57:22 

In reply to brians_da_best

Someone thinks he can.....

If not ramdhin, its lil B , now its pollard

Why dont you shut up, you are getting boring.

How much did the previous captain make ?

What did a Trini do to you ?

twisted twisted

 
brians_da_best 2019-11-09 11:58:22 

In reply to sgtdjones

Let's monitor his performance as a player and captain, since I'm told he isn't a specialist claptain

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 11:58:57 

In reply to brians_da_best

Are you a Trini? If you are, then you are one of the rare good ones when it comes to stamping out insularity.

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:00:33 

In reply to brians_da_best

It's his second game as Captain, this afghan team is not a bad team. Polly is leading a minnow team also.

If after 6 months then get rid of him.

stop the bytching .....

evil

Former skipper Jason Holder walks in to a crisis. Needs to bail them out

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:01:13 

In reply to Courtesy

He is not a Trini?

lol

 
brians_da_best 2019-11-09 12:01:18 

In reply to sgtdjones

I don't even want to get rid of him, if he can make the team on merit. I'm all for giving him a year, but will keep monitoring his performances in that interim

 
granite 2019-11-09 12:02:57 

In reply to brians_da_best
When are you planning a hate campaign against Pooran.Did Pooran play an innings that saved our rass,come bway answer nah.

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:03:08 

In reply to sgtdjones

He is not a Trini?

He supported Brian Lara though. So there is an element of consistency in his posts.

big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:04:00 

In reply to Courtesy

Who wouldn't support Lara ?

Thats a no brainer.

lol lol

 
granite 2019-11-09 12:04:31 

In reply to Courtesy
Had no choice.

lol

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:05:23 

In reply to Courtesy

He is the famous cob

Hence the lara connection big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:05:29 

Filial cannibalism taking place. brians_da_best I hope you have the legs to runaway now.

big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:06:36 

In reply to doosra

I tort he was a Trini.

lol lol lol

 
notinsular 2019-11-09 12:07:14 

In reply to sgtdjones

It's amusing, albeit a bit pathetic, to see the bellyachers like BdB and Courtesy bitch and moan from start to finish, barely able to conceal their desire for WI to lose. rolleyes

Just so they could crow, "I told you so"
cool
Jokers big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:08:21 

In reply to Courtesy

Naw Naw

If Polly fails after 6 months get rid of him.

But in the interim lets see what he can do .

This is not a team of world class players.

It's a struggling team that will have moments.

I will lead the march to get rid of Polly, but its only his second game. sigh

cool

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:08:40 

In reply to notinsular

I support the meritorious appointment of captain Pollard in T20.

big grin

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:09:23 

In reply to Courtesy

With all that bashing of ramdin ?

Which trini you ever see criticise another trini big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:09:52 

In reply to sgtdjones

Naw Naw

If Polly fails after 6 months get rid of him.

But in the interim lets see what he can do .

This is not a team of world class players.

It's a struggling team that will have moments.

I will lead the march to get rid of Polly, buts its only his second game. sigh


All this above is irrelevant until we can answer how did he get there to cappo West Indies in ODI?

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:11:20 

In reply to doosra

With all that bashing of ramdin ?

Which trini you ever see criticise another trini

I see what you did there. It conceals more than it reveals to the uninitiated.

big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:11:30 

In reply to doosra

I was a critic of polly when he did that stupidity to avoid Lewis of his ton.

On occasions his sledging.

What was funny I saw Pooran sledging him Warriors vs TKR.

The look on Polly face was priceless

lol lol

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:12:28 

In reply to Courtesy

oh, you are something else

throw more gasolene on the fire.



lol lol lol

 
Oilah 2019-11-09 12:12:56 

For the 50 overs games I think Pollard was picked as a specialist captain. This is not necessarily a bad thing and he is a good player. His batting will come good from time to time he can put in overs and he is one of the best fielders in the world. I'll give Polly a chance to show me if the decision to make him skipper was good or not.

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:13:26 

In reply to sgtdjones

I will never come to the conclusion that Trinis are insular like Doosra did without overwhelming evidence.

big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:13:43 

In reply to Courtesy

All this above is irrelevant until we can answer how did he get there to cappo West Indies in ODI?


It's obvious we will never know . CWI never gives up its secrets.

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:14:15 

Trini 2d bone
big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:14:40 

In reply to sgtdjones

It's obvious we will never know . CWI never gives up its secrets.

Is that a euphemism for un-merited?

big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:14:45 

In reply to Courtesy

I am getting a fire extinguisher to foam ya gasolene.

lol lol

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:15:22 

Deh even have a song for it
big grin big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:16:13 

In reply to Courtesy

Same as the selector, he gave himself a job, knowing all the secrets.

lol lol

 
hawk 2019-11-09 12:16:39 

In reply to sgtdjones

Weren't you guys saying the same thing about holder and brathwaite? weren't you all saying neither earn or deserve a spot on the team? weren't you all calling the team minnow bashers, while belittling wins against pakistan, Sri Lanka and England as flukes

even now you are defending Pollard by attacking Holder

i have news for you...Pollard will have to take his blows like any other captain who was chosen and selected without merit, which you know is true, every performance will be scrutinized, every failure will be criticized and if it continues, he will be ostracized

I wish him well, but i don't see this ending well, i am also waiting to see what happens when a T20 league clashes with a West Indies duty, are you waiting to see as well?

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:16:51 

In reply to Oilah

For the 50 overs games I think Pollard was picked as a specialist captain. This is not necessarily a bad thing and he is a good player. His batting will come good from time to time he can put in overs and he is one of the best fielders in the world. I'll give Polly a chance to show me if the decision to make him skipper was good or not.

Pray tell, how is that different from the Sammy situation?

Full disclosure: I never supported the Sammy experiment.

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:17:36 

In reply to hawk

Weren't you guys saying the same thing about holder and brathwaite? weren't you all saying neither earn or deserve a spot on the team? weren't you all calling the team minnow bashers, while belittling wins against pakistan, Sri Lanka and England as flukes

even now you are defending Pollard by attacking Holder

i have news for you...Pollard will have to take his blows like any other captain who was chosen and selected without merit, which you know is true, every performance will be scrutinized, every failure will be criticized and if it continues, he will be ostracized

I wish him well, but i don't this ending well, i am also waiting to see what happens when a T20 league clashes with a West Indies duty, are you waiting to see as well?

Thank you sah. "Pick your best 11 and chose your captain" was the popular refrain here. What has changed?

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:20:53 

In reply to Courtesy

Iz funny how life comes a full circle if yuh live long enough

Demman did deh pun sammy case day and night...

All we asking for is consistency not hypocrisy big grin

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:22:27 

In reply to doosra

...All we asking for is consistency not hypocrisy.

Absolutely... and I have got enough ammunition to expose the hypocrisy.

big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:22:27 

In reply to hawk

My summation:

If polly fails after 6 months in ODI and T20

lets get rid of him.

In the interim he is not leading a bunch of world class players. They will have moments.

I dont like to criticize players, the comment posted today
was hoping Jason could save the collapse. I have seen improvement in his game since taking away the captaincy.

I wish I knew why CWI selected Polly as captain , but they did say he will have two understudies. I dont know who they are but I wish all well.

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:24:24 

In reply to Courtesy

Thank you sah. "Pick your best 11 and chose your captain" was the popular refrain here. What has changed?


CCcom members are not selectors at CWI, we are offering a suggestion. AS usual we are ignored. CWI is a secret organization.

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:26:27 

In reply to sgtdjones

CCcom members are not selectors at CWI, we are offering a suggestion.

Conveniently, the door to these suggestions is now closed. You see dat ain. Wonders never siss.

big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:27:11 

In reply to Courtesy

Full disclosure: I never supported the Sammy experiment.


I didnt critize sammy, at the time it was the best option.
As he matured in the position , he saw what CWI was like and called them out on it . He was victimized for doing so.

That was wrong .

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:27:33 

In reply to Courtesy

Sarge wants nothing to do with merit big grin

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:28:19 

In reply to sgtdjones

Sammy being the best option at the time now fits nicely with polly is the best option

Man smile

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:28:57 

In reply to sgtdjones

I didnt critize sammy, at the time it was the best option...

Criticizing Sammy at the time was not a bad thing. Specialist captains cannot be justified...wouldn't you say so?

Now, If you give me your handle before 2017 I might be able to disprove or prove this...as Sammy has not featured much after 2017.

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:29:22 

In reply to doosra

Be nice you , see the improvement on merit about hetty, a Trini as Captain and a Coach.

razz razz razz razz razz razz

 
doosra 2019-11-09 12:30:12 

In reply to sgtdjones

A little bit a clapping goes a far way nah big grin

 
Gun_Play 2019-11-09 12:30:58 

I expected this topic from Emir.

Where is he? I look fwd to his input.
big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:32:31 

In reply to Courtesy

Specialist captains cannot be justified...wouldn't you say so?


I believe Criticizing Sammy was wrong , this guy did his best with whatever ability he had . How can he be castigated.

I dont support a specialist capitan. I am clueless how CWI works in selecting personnel , they dont follow the book.

How can I comment. lol

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:33:41 

In reply to Courtesy

Now, If you give me your handle before 2017 I might be able to disprove or prove this...as Sammy has not featured much after 2017.


I wasn't here before 2017.

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:34:24 

In reply to doosra

Naw Polly uses his shoes ..ask Tino

lol lol lol

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:34:46 

In reply to sgtdjones

Now, If you give me your handle before 2017 I might be able to disprove or prove this...as Sammy has not featured much after 2017.

Did you overlook this from my post above?

lol lol lol

 
brians_da_best 2019-11-09 12:36:19 

While I don’t support Pollards appointment as captain, now that he is captain, I’ll support him for a while, and hope he earns his place in the team.

My nationality is irrelevant to the above discussion

 
brians_da_best 2019-11-09 12:36:31 

In reply to sgtdjones

big grin big grin

 
hawk 2019-11-09 12:37:34 

In reply to sgtdjones

no current West Indies captain (merited or unmerited) will be leading a bunch of world class players,

others did not benefit from this summation, neither will Pollard

for the record Jason was improving long before he was stripped of the captaincy

6 months???? Pollard has to prove his worth and prove it fast......

 
Narper 2019-11-09 12:39:36 

In reply to sgtdjones

I believe Criticizing Sammy was wrong , this guy did his best with whatever ability he had . How can he be castigated.

Sammy deserved all the criticism he got. he was plucked from nowhere and imposed as the WI cappo...with no accountability for performance....as a player or as a cappo

JHo deserved all the criticism he got as a cappo....he too was plucked from nowhere and imposed without accountability for 4 long years...but to give him credit he developed as a player...and deserve a plece in the WI team

And if Pouty does not deliver as a player and Cappo he will deserve all the criticism he is getting already....

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 12:39:52 

In reply to Courtesy

Now, If you give me your handle before 2017 I might be able to disprove or prove this...as Sammy has not featured much after 2017.


I answered. Now members have given me handles as bagel,
socafighter, Alien 51, dean jones,runout,CITYBOY,beharry, lil B, red baron etc etc
so many I can't remember them all


lol

 
granite 2019-11-09 12:42:01 

The Caribbean was founded on insularity,remember the Federation or do I have to say why,anyway allyuh old enough to know.I notice a Guyanese poster always talking bout Trinis insular,although we have more Guyanese in TT than we would like.We also have loads of people from the smaller islands.Wait for it I eh dun yet,Guyana say flat out,we nah joining no federation,and now they chat bout insularity.We Trinis so insular that we gave money to the whole Caribbean so they can fix broken tings,mind you they never pay back.Mek de stay deh.

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:42:07 

In reply to sgtdjones

Thanks. So there is no need for sgtdjones to but in.

big grin

 
Oilah 2019-11-09 12:44:18 

In reply to Courtesy

Pray tell, how is that different from the Sammy situation?


The big difference with Sammy and Polly is that Polly comes with a lot more experience and years under his belt. Sammy was green and had done nothing to even suggest he should be a fixture in all the sides far less being captain. Polly has captaincy experience and I think he has shown himself to be a confident proactive leader. As I stated dem trying a ting in the 50 overs...I would not have made him skipper of the 50 overs but I'm ok with it..we shall see. I would have made Polly skipper of the t20 years ago. When Sammy was made skipper of everything I said he would definitely be in my t20 team, in the 50 overs mix but not in the test squad.

 
granite 2019-11-09 12:57:06 

In reply to brians_da_best
It is relevant when it's you,what a shame yuh didn't migrate to TT in the 50s,you would have learnt to mingle with Trinis and all different people and it would have stopped your hate.

 
Courtesy 2019-11-09 12:57:32 

In reply to Oilah

Ok...if more experience is taken in isolation then I will yield. But I am all for meritorious appointments.

 
brians_da_best 2019-11-09 14:09:26 

When will Poland bring himself on? 4 down already, was backing him to pick up 5 wickets

 
Trinidave 2019-11-09 15:07:43 

In reply to brians_da_best

Not yet.

 
Cricket_101 2019-11-09 15:10:09 

In reply to brians_da_best

Another Sammy type doctrine, Mek he on the team... him pure dead. Smh!

 
brians_da_best 2019-11-09 15:41:57 

In reply to Cricket_101

Will he bowl more overs than the runs he scored? big grin

 
sgtdjones 2019-11-09 17:21:56 

In reply to brians_da_best

This is West Indies' first series win since August 2014. That was 21 series ago.

cool

 
Cricket_101 2019-11-09 17:47:42 

In reply to brians_da_best

Nah
Him a non-hands on manager.
: big grin big grin big grin

 
Barry 2019-11-09 18:11:15 

What is merit? See Cherri, opening, tc1... confused

 
Mr-Anguilla 2019-11-10 21:31:35 

So long as he turns them into a professional winning unit and passes on knowledge!

 
hairline1 2019-11-11 10:58:20 

 
WIForever 2019-11-11 12:35:13 

In reply to Narper

The man bat once so far as captain. Real numbskulls here yes.