Fast bowler - express?
Medium pacer - workhorse?
All rounder - seamer / batsman?
Wicketkeeper?
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Which position in cricket requires most fitness?
In reply to imusic
Hope. Wicketkeeper opening bat
In reply to imusic
CCC.com poster!!
Dem does run dem mouth a lot!!
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Concur
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
A specific player isnt a position. But I believe I get your point
In reply to imusic
Hope was the example to make the point...don't get too sensitive
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Seeing you using examples......Hopes position requires more fitness than that of say Jason Holder?
In reply to imusic
Bowlers get breaks and lower order batsmen don't last long. So maybe yes.
In reply to imusic
fast bowler , the keeping position requires more mental sharpness than physical!
how often we see a keeper get cramps?
In reply to camos
A keeper is virtually doing squats all innings long
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
he needs a good back, not much thighs.
why are they trying to limit the work load of young fast bowlers?
looked at thru the lens of preparation
fast bowling looks like it needs a whole lot more - weights, lots of running, etc
keeping is a lot of skipping and squatting...once u get that the actual act is routine, mostly
batting is just plenty batting and concentration...well nowadays kohli and those chaps train hard too
fast bowling puts a lot more work on body
In reply to imusic
Fast bowlers medium and express requires stamina and fitness and they pretty much use every muscle in their body!
In reply to StumpCam
which medium pacers man?
gavin larsen?
chris harris?
dont they just run in and turn their hands over
In reply to doosra
Medium fast still puts a lot of stress on the body!
In reply to imusic I used to be a wicket-keeper opening batsman and also captain of my (one-day) team, and after each match I was drained. I recall one season where I was consistently batting for most of the innings for more than half the matches. Granted there were only 10 games before the semis and finals, but I was fit then. BTW, I also had badminton tournaments playing at the time, which the cricket caused me to lose a few finals, played afterwards. I was in the top 10 singles player in my country as well.
Wicket keeper and captain...most mentally demanding. Fast bowling workhorse like Walsh...most physically demanding
Fast bowlers strain their bodies as much as anyone. Mark Wood ran for 24 miles in the last test match, most of that in sprints.
Keepers must be 'fit' in the sense that they cant be overweight + must maintain their sharp reflexes but stamina isn't such a big deal.
For batters it even depends on their role and style, there are guys who don't look in great shape but can bat all day long no issue. Or fatties like Shazhad and Stirling who need that bulk to hit with power.
There's no one universal type of 'fitness' is the issue, you can't compare Hope to Holder or Cook to Anderson
Fitness rather than strength?
Keeper
No contest
In reply to davidcameron
Disagree
Keepers must have stamina plus concentration whole game
Crouching at the 2nd over and the 42nd over is two different animals!
Keeping - Sharpness of concentration-flexibility-endurance-
squatting, diving and damage to hands (long term)
Fast bowlers - endurance and physicality. Your workload is dependent
of the captain.
Think too little is focused on the mental part of the game keepers have to endure every game.
Batting - Saw Colin Cowdrey, Ken Barrington etc. as kids bat for days.
All rounder - seamer / batsman? - Guess this one would depend on the flow of the game.
Man who saying keeping never had the chance to compare bowling and keeping...if you did both you'd think again
UMPIRE
test match ....at least 15x2 hr sessions....of concentration
In reply to doosra
Ive kept wicket occasionally and its nothing compared to bowling 10 overs of medium pace! So you could imagine a fast bowler bowling 20 overs!
In reply to StumpCam
Fitness vs stamina
In reply to StumpCam Why would you decry wicketkeeping?. It would appear that you place little value on wicketkeeping. By the way your fast bowler bowling 20 overs,doesnt he bowl those overs in spells?.And later goes to field (.ie rest) at long leg and or 3rd man.
The wicketkeeper has to set up for every ball,even when hit.He has to change ends for every over. And he does this for the duration of the inning.
Here is a stat for you. 619 runs 152 overs (8 ball overs)leg byes 2, No Balls 6. Noticeably....no byes.
What do you think accounted for that?. Maybe fitness...?
In reply to alfa1975
Take a guess why that is!
In reply to alfa1975
Consistent bowling?
I get the case for wicketkeepers.
Especially in LO cricket, they have less work to do be hi and the stumps
Batsmen are more attacking which means they dont leave as many ball as alone. Very rare in T20 cricket
It might be argued that its less someone for someone whos often involved in play like a wicketkeeper, than say an outfielder who gets the ball hit to them every so often. They also have to be mentally alert for every delivery. Just because then all doesnt come to them that often means its easier. In fact, it may be harder
In reply to imusic
Well, nice one musicman, absolutely true; but aren't you making a case for the keeper.
The flip side. The more often the batter gets bat on ball, the more often the keeper has to run up to the wicket (the length of which may very well be the same as the bowlers run-up). This has to be done for every strike, for every bowler.
....well unless it's a boundary ball or a spinner bowling.
In reply to imusic
Coach!
Think about it for a while.
Running laps, lifting weights....and
If you had an ignoramus like Kraft or The ex Pakistani quickie
In reply to Discourse
I think were exaggerating the fitness required to jog to the stumps to get in position to field a throw
Good teams will also have 1 or 2 field men backing up for every shot made....
The full out sprint some fast /medium fast bowlers out in during their spell is incomparable by anyone else in a cricket team IMO
Some memorable spells:
Dillon bowling non stop from first ball after lunch to tea in a test match in the Caribbean
Several of Courtney Walsh marathon spells
Ditto Max Walker.....
Brett Lee
There are many more
In reply to imusic
Oh yeah, I remember those C Walsh moments clearly.
You know every batter and bowler have been scrutinized from top to bottom with all sorts of cameras for umpteen years now. It's good off an on tho to have a little shift in focus, and I think we're discussing the wicket-keeper/opener position in particular if I'm correct.
In reply to Discourse
I would ha e to think wicketkeeper and captain are most mentally draining
Mental fitness and mental stamina are major components of successful players
I think fast and medium paced bowlers may take the cake in terms of physical exertion in the field though. But thats from a fan perspective. I played the game but was not a keeper or seamer.
Heres another example of supreme physical fitness
The Aussie team of the 90s and early 2000s revolutionized the game with their running between the wickets. Especially in test matches. Turning ones into twos. Twos into threes. Threes into all run fours. And taking singles when previously, there would be no single to be had.
Virat Kohli does that really well in todays game and would be contrasted by the most reknowned example of the polar opposite....Chris Gayle
Fast bowlers break down most often. Hence, fast bowling requires the "most fitness".
In reply to Discourse
Was about to post but saw you made similar points
A ball coming through to the gloves gets tossed to slip or back to the bowler. No need to do the suicides to the stumps.
Bowlers work in spells.
After age 40, Saturday bowling would hurt me until Monday; now keeping hurts until Thursday!
In reply to Halliwell
You had better start bowling 5 over spells monthly
In reply to Discourse
Hahahahaha
Funny thing happened a couple years ago
Skipper dont give me the ball no more
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