Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities..
Stop crying about testing
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22115 deaths nationwide..1540 yesterday
2020-03-14 02:19:25
2020-03-14 02:40:43
In reply to maj
Take a break dude....the truth of your boy is finally hitting you....
2020-03-14 02:47:36
In reply to Ayenmol
Ok the facts say 41 dead.
Opinions are not relevant.
2020-03-14 02:55:34
In reply to maj
Dude, A week ago Missouri had 1 case. Yesterday another individual self presented....2....now two more are presumptive positive....they did not say where they are from or that they self presented....fact is there are many people out there infected....give it a week to two weeks....How can you count deaths now to quantify this?
Or claim there are too few deaths to worry about testing? It is beçause they are not testing that there is this uncertainty...this thing is spreading silently.
When it spreads silently it may peak all at once which is what can stress the system and lead to massive death toll.
2020-03-14 03:01:00
In reply to Ayenmol
No such thing as too few deaths.
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
2020-03-14 03:43:05
In reply to maj
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
You are prejudiced....you are completely making that stuff up because you are conditioned to think the US is better.
It is already evident that the US is behind the curve.
People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also has less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health care, as relates to this pandemic is not better.
This thing has legs....give it two weeks.
2020-03-14 03:47:41
In reply to Ayenmol
Bro..Italians are having to spend nights with corpses in their homes.
Better I think not.
2020-03-14 03:52:13
In reply to maj
Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities..
Stop crying about testing
Stop crying about testing
Stop embarrassing yourself.
2020-03-14 03:58:27
In reply to Ayenmol
It is already evident tgat the US is behind the curve.
People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also uas less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health cate as relates to this pandemic is not better
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People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also uas less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health cate as relates to this pandemic is not better
This doesn't have anything to do with who is better, it's about being competent and proactive.
2020-03-14 04:04:00
In reply to maj
7 more since today.
48 total
2020-03-14 04:34:08
In reply to black
People will die if they do not have ventillators.
When people get sick they need respirators to get better.
So far old folks and others with pre- existing conditions are dying even on ventillators....but the bigger issue is of you dont have the respirators then people who do not have underlying issues are succumbing because they cant get the care they need.
So yes, beds are important....there is no better heslthcare besides that...because you can have a million better doctors and mri machines and robotic operators....that wont help people sick with this virus.
Ok dummy? Beds and respirators. Better hope what happened in Italy ...i.e the breakout....does not happen here.
2020-03-14 04:57:48
In reply to maj
How many of the 350 million Americans have been tested?
South Korea tests 20-30000 a day...a day.
How many Americans have been tested in the past few months. ....answer- less than 5000 ( benefit of the doubt)
Your basic math is questionable given your conclusions.
2020-03-14 08:14:13
In reply to maj
How old are you? Serious question!
2020-03-14 08:30:29
In reply to johndom90
The South Korean response has been very good. That's the template the rest of the world should follow.
2020-03-14 10:14:46
48 deaths so far. Unfortunate but much better than expected given what has happened across the world.
2020-03-14 10:21:49
In reply to nitro
When you compare total deaths to total cases, South Korea has a better ratio than a lot of Western countries.
2020-03-14 11:19:06
In reply to Ayenmol
When it spreads silently it may peak all at once which is whart can stress the system and lead tk massive death toll.
And deaths will not be only those directly attributed to the virus, but all those additional deaths caused as a result of the stress placed on the healthcare system by the virus.
Maj, like Trump, will want to focus on that tree, meanwhile the forest is about to burn down.
It is for these reasons why testing is now even more important at this point to get the whole picture of the problem Trump doesn’t want to see, and so it seems maj.
2020-03-14 12:41:48
In reply to Casper
Isn’t it too late now to ramp up testing while new clinical cases appear every day?
If you will not isolate cases and their families then no sense in testing other than to calculate rates on paper. Testing is effective in the first stage.
Now, shut down measures only can delay the onset.
2020-03-14 12:50:26
In reply to Ayenmol
sometimes and the occasions are v few and far between, you are on the ball. this is one of those times
2020-03-14 13:15:05
In reply to Halliwell
How will clinicians accurately triage covid from the common flu if there is no testing? Testing is fundamental to any type of medical treatment
2020-03-14 13:45:52
In reply to maj
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
Give me an example of your argument if God forbid in 2 weeks there are 1000 deaths
2020-03-14 14:15:00
In reply to Ayenmol
It is already evident tgat the US is behind the curve.
People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also uas less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health cate as relates to this pandemic is not better
People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also uas less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health cate as relates to this pandemic is not better
I said the Trump Administration is incompetent and was slow to react but show me where Italy is doing such a great job that is worthy of praise?
This is a problem of competence, not a problem of means. That is the point I was making.
Instead, you went on some rambling bullshit about things that are obvious.
2020-03-14 14:18:07
In reply to johndom90
Sorry I should have been clearer...apologies.
Testing in a hospital environment is very much encouraged.
In non-hospital settings, there are too many cases now, to have people who are suspect cases showing mild symptoms being tested. It diverts precious resources from the clinically ill to the people who are showing minor flu like symptoms.
We have enough evidence from SKorea, Iran, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Italy to extrapolate case numbers based on age demographics and deaths.
2020-03-14 14:33:29
In reply to maj
Allyuh red hat crazies .. i dunno what to say. Trump's farts creating a false reality in y'all tiny brains 
2020-03-14 15:23:42
In reply to black
Man just shush.....You claimed the health care system in America is better....duh, that is obvious....Yet i told you explicitly
the health care as relates to this pandemic is not better
That is all that matters. So why you arguing anything else?
show me where Italy is doing such a great job that is worthy of praise?
Dummy, the point is not that Italy is worthy of praise, but that they were better equipped than the US per capita to deal with a peak curve in serious infections to their population, yet they ran out of beds and people are dying at home because there's no way to treat them.
Which is why I said:
Better hope what happened in Italy ...i.e the breakout....does not happen here.
That sounds like praise to you? dense moron.
2020-03-14 15:29:28
In reply to Ayenmol
Dummy, the point is not that Italy is worthy of praise, but that they were better equipped than the US per capita to deal with a peak curve in serious infections to their population, yet they ran out of beds and people are dying at home because there's no way to treat them.
How can you say Italy is better equipped when they are having all sorts of problems?
Like I said, it is a matter of the U.S. not moving fast enough. We are not at the point yet where the system is being tested to capacity.
2020-03-14 15:48:40
In reply to black
As i always tell you...You lack comprehension...When i call you a moron, it's not because i want to resort to name calling to detract from the agment.
I honestly believe you are moronic and lack understanding.
Back to ignoring you.
2020-03-14 15:51:04
In reply to Ayenmol
Just because you say it does not make it true.
You are just plain stupid.
You fucking door knocking moron.
2020-03-14 15:57:43
Thousands are walking around with COVID-19 without knowing
As there is not enough test available
2020-03-14 17:08:38
and thousands will survive will little or no symptoms.
Same people that are dying from the flu are dying from Covid 19.
Do we have widespread testing for Influenza or do we test and treat on an as needed basis.
2020-03-14 17:12:42
In reply to maj
We have and are controlling Influenza with approved medication. Only 0.1% of those infected with the FLU actually die. There is no publicly known and approved cure for COVID-19. The death rate is currently at 3.7%. That's 37x deadlier than the FLU. You just can't compare the 2 viruses, except for some underlying symptoms.
2020-03-14 17:19:44
In reply to maj
41 deaths that's it.
Keep dreaming pal. I know like Trump you live in an alternate Universe.
The rest of us are realists. The deaths will end when efficient Government action is implemented.
You will rue the the topic in that thread.
By the way, add 10 to the total.
2020-03-14 17:54:39
Trump did say we were very..very..very prepared .
And that it will go away on its own.
2020-03-14 18:02:36
In reply to DukeStreet
With proper treatment, SK has the rate down to .07%.
That 3.7% is due to lack of testing and those that are affected who show no symptoms.
2020-03-14 18:04:42
In reply to embsallie
I am not applauding the US's preparedness at all but we have like you said realists
But 58 deaths since Jan.
2020-03-14 18:06:03
In reply to johndom90
Yeah just like when we were kids right.
I used to say when it was raining:
"Rain , rain go away come again another day , little johnny wants to play.
Trump's version would be:
Covid-19 go away , you fucking up my numbers by the day
I am not responsible for your crap
The Dems and Obama should take the rap.
2020-03-14 18:14:10
In reply to maj
You really are a Trump loyalist.
Are you hearing yourself?
Every death is heartbreaking to the people who it affects the most.
Stop treating American deaths as pure statistics in a situation that warrants effective management to mitigate what could turn into a disaster for families both emotionally and financially.
This shit is serious. While I think people are going overboard buying all the toilet paper they can lay their hands on, I do not blame them because they are scared shitless.
Why you ask?
It is mostly because they do not seem to get the assurances they need from their elected leaders.
2020-03-14 18:29:26
In reply to embsallie
No sorry my wife has a bird's eye view of the situation. People who have no systems are flocking to ERs demanding testing. They are overwhelming the system unnecessarily.
Not enough is being done to publicize the fact that the vast majority of people will survive. The narrative of DT lies and the government is not to be trusted is driving the hysteria.
People think contracting Covid 19 is a death sentence.
2020-03-14 18:43:26
In reply to maj
The narrative of DT lies......
Well...speaking the truth matters. When you constantly lie over even minute shit...then people stop trusting you.
The lying has consequences.
All the race based support of Trump against all human decency falls apart when people feel like their own lives are on the line. I can't understand why you would expect anything different.
2020-03-14 18:47:01
In reply to maj
With proper treatment, SK has the rate down to .07%.
That 3.7% is due to lack of testing and those that are affected who show no symptoms.
That 3.7% is due to lack of testing and those that are affected who show no symptoms.
Again, you are WRANG.
SK has the rate down to 0.9%, almost 1%. Not the .07% you are talking about. Big difference there, buddy.
And anything tested and treated can be controlled. Duh. The problem is we have a pandemic on our hands and until we get folks tested, treated and cured, it ain't no joking matter nor should it ever be trivialized.
2020-03-14 18:56:48
41 out of 350+ million! Hmmm...that wouldn't be naught, would it?! Stop
the hysteria. Fool stop. 
2020-03-14 19:06:18
Sorry if I sound to be callous.
2020-03-14 19:10:15
In reply to BeatDball
It's now at 58, but its the reality of the situation.
Flu season is hitting its stride right now in the US. So far, the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between Oct. 1, 2019 through Feb. 1, 2020, and the number of deaths may be as high as 30,000.
2020-03-14 19:12:31
In reply to maj Wtf? I thought this thing would be restricted to the far East!
2020-03-14 19:13:01
In reply to BeatDball
Not with all the travel that happens
2020-03-14 19:22:53
In reply to maj
As Chrissy & Trump says, the flu kills much more.
2020-03-14 19:30:01
In reply to maj
By the time this thread reach its logical conclusion we're all covid 19 victims.
2020-03-14 19:32:53
In reply to black
Sad but true.
2020-03-14 19:39:42
Here you go
2020-03-14 19:54:35
Something tells me this thread will go south real quickly
2020-03-14 21:16:50
In reply to maj
But 58 deaths since Jan
It is 58 since late February, when they realize the virus is here, but more importantly look at the rate of increase in deaths since they start keeping stats!
2020-03-14 21:37:42
In reply to BeatDball
41 out of 350+ million! Hmmm...that wouldn't be naught, would it?! Stop
the hysteria. Fool stop.
the hysteria. Fool stop.
May the virus that is COVID-19 seek you out and attach itself to your warped sense of humor.
May there also be a delay in your ability to find a suitable test to determine your prognosis
May you stay in bed with 103° F fever and may the duration be for 14 days.
That time should be enough to revisit your callous attitude and rectify your lack of compassion.
AMEN!
2020-03-15 07:40:13
Vox
Epidemiologists and disease modelers studying Covid-19 told Vox a more reliable global case fatality rate is about 1 percent — but there’s still a lot we have to learn about the disease. And even when we better understand how deadly this virus is, it’s likely to look pretty different country to country.
That means, in many places, health authorities are only picking up a subset of the sick — and perhaps the most severe cases, given that roughly 80 percent of people with Covid-19 have a mild case. (Remember: The sickest are usually the ones who show up at doctor’s offices and hospitals, while there may be hundreds or thousands of others with the virus who never show symptoms or don’t bother going to see a doctor. That’s why the CFR can often look much worse in the early days of an outbreak.)
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2020-03-15 16:16:39
In reply to maj
I actually want you to be right on this.
The problem is ...you're totally missing the point.
As medical science improves....no doctor wants to just say 'hey..let the old people die...no problem'. Lots of people are recovering..the challenge is stopping the spread.
The pandemic declaration is not about how lethal/ deadly the virus is. It is about how easily spread it is AND the corresponding potential overload of the medical system....worldwide needed to keep fatality rates low.
Americans have their peeps all over the world...in 'shithole' countries too. Its important that they don't overload poor little Grenada, Dominica etc al.
The thing that disturbs me the most...is your insistent, obsessive, brown nosing of DJT. The guy is a compulsive liar and you know it. He is in over his head. He looks at everything from a lens of 'money can fix' big business will miraculously solve all of America's problems..screw the rest of the world. Granted presidents do not have to be experts...they have to lean on technocrats ...but this guy is ignorant of his ignorance.
I know you love his anti Obama agenda ...afterall...you struggle with black people in leadership positions because of your Forebes Burham hardon....but you're a grown ass man now..apparently 'successful' according to your utterances here....get over it and be objective dammit.
2020-03-15 16:34:43
Maj god say dem was 15 and soon it will be down tuh zero no more explanation needed
2020-03-15 16:41:45
In reply to Cheeks
Nobody wants anyone to die, im just looking at the totality of the situation. Yes its spreading and yes its dangerous. But its proving to be most fatal to those who are at most risk of dying from any other infection, UTI's and the like.
Italian doctors are now questioning the treatment of older persons.
By your estimation the flu should be considered a pandemic every year.
2020-03-15 16:50:25
In reply to maj
Do you know what NOVEL means??
Do you understand that there is a lot of caution because the virus is still being studied?
2020-03-15 16:54:03
In reply to Cheeks
He obviously does not understand the distinction between epidemic and pandemic. But Cheeks, please please don't waste your time.
2020-03-15 17:06:55
In reply to Cheeks
Very good points, all true and all needed to be said more on this site.
2020-03-15 17:17:56
In reply to Ayenmol
Very good points, all true and all needed to be said more on this site.
You never complemented anyone.
Have you been tested for Carona?
2020-03-15 17:24:18
As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died.
President Obama did a great job, only 12K died under his watch.
2020-03-15 17:26:54
In reply to nitro Divulging this will now leave...All quiet on the western front!
2020-03-15 17:51:49
Sure when people get sick and when people die they will all blame Obama
2020-03-15 18:10:16
In reply to Oilah
Well, they blame the President at the time
Now it is Trump's turn but of you follow this MB you would think this type of pandemic only kill Americans under Trump.
2020-03-15 18:13:15
In reply to BeatDball
I honestly wish I could block posts from you.
I hate wilful stupidity.
2020-03-15 18:25:14
In reply to Cheeks
2020-03-15 18:26:33
In reply to Cheeks
I honestly wish I could block posts from you.
I hate wilful stupidity.
I hate wilful stupidity.
Cud dear doan pick pon Beatball alone...he got nuff company
2020-03-15 18:40:52
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
You never complemented anyone.
Patently false. I do not go out of my way to compliment people simply to ingratiate myself to them....But i compliment people who speak up on serious issues when the masses are heading in a different direction.
2020-03-15 20:19:12
In reply to nitro
As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died.
Obama won the 2008 election and took office January 2009, did those 12,000 died in 15 months?
try to understand what you read my friend!
2020-03-15 20:48:22
In reply to nitro
President Obama did a great job, only 12K died under his watch.
So, according the additional numbers you posted, that equates to .02% death rate. Not bad for O-Man.
2020-03-15 21:01:23
In reply to camos
They all died under the Oman's watch. It started in Spring of 2009.
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2020-03-15 21:02:46
In reply to DukeStreet
As i said he did an excellent job, only 12,500 deaths.
2020-03-15 21:16:23
In reply to Cheeks
Covid 19 is a mutation of the Coronavirus, its somewhat new not entirely.
Dr. Fauchi said there's alot known about the virus.
2020-03-15 23:33:49
In reply to Cheeks Just shut the fact up & follow the pattern...of course you're dense & a socishit immigrate or hating from a far!
2020-03-16 00:47:11
In reply to BeatDball
41, 50, 58, 60 I see an unfortunate trend here. 
2020-03-16 00:50:00
In reply to Headley
As it has done in every country it will get worst. Just like H1N1 in 2009, things will be very bad.
2020-03-16 00:50:40
In reply to BeatDball
Just shut the fact up & follow the pattern...of course you're dense & a socishit immigrate or hating from a far
Somebody please translate. I don't speak Chupidese.
2020-03-16 00:56:42
In reply to Cheeks
He is saying:
Fack off & jump off a cliff....you are dumb & a stupid Socialist, illegal immigrant or just a bad minded asshole!
2020-03-16 01:25:48
In reply to nitro
You are well versed. Kudos.
Maybe I am dumb..but I'm not socialist and I certainly am not an illegal immigrant. I do not live in the US.
Not bad minded either. 
Translate that back to chupidese for him please.
2020-03-16 01:38:53
In reply to BeatDball
Cheeks say to tell you that yes he is dumb but he believes socialism is a failure. He is no illegal immigrant, he does not have the privilege of living in the greatest country on earth. Despite that he is not a bad mind.
2020-03-16 01:42:51
In reply to nitro
Fail.
You're fired. Your Chupidese is way better than your Hinglish though.
2020-03-16 09:47:53
In reply to nitro
2020-03-17 02:23:18
In reply to maj
No updates?
2020-03-17 03:37:51
In reply to camos
Yeah 87
My reference
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2020-03-17 03:44:53
In reply to maj
91
2020-03-17 05:21:31
In two weeks time, murca will be in free fall.
Everything.
Business, Employment. Social services.. Oil... Collapso
And markets still haven't hit bottom yet...
President Smug the orange will be a sight to behold!
2020-03-17 12:51:01
In reply to maj
may make more sense to update your title post....unless you are leaving it as is for dramatic effect...
2020-03-17 13:18:35
This thread started at 41, we have more than doubled that and are at 91.
Stop denying science.
2020-03-17 14:10:58
2020-03-17 14:13:26
In reply to Jamstar
89 per my source
2020-03-17 14:42:54
In reply to maj
How many deaths do you estimate before we develop immunity or a vaccine?
2020-03-17 14:54:43
In reply to XFactor
Same as the flu
2020-03-17 14:59:19
In reply to maj
currently, 93 deaths in US.
2020-03-17 15:06:53
In reply to maj
it's more than the flu percentage wise...man, stop denying facts...you don't need to agree with Trump on everything
2020-03-17 15:10:16
In reply to maj
I don't think you comprehend the seriousness of the situation. In a couple of weeks there will be States in America where there are no hospital beds available. China had to build make shift hospitals in days to house the sick.
2020-03-17 15:15:36
In reply to ray
Many have had the virus, recovered and not been tested. So they do not get factored into the numbers.
The numbers only reflect those who have been tested, treated and in the database.
The test is fairly new, we can get false positives and false negatives.
The sample size is still too small to get an accurate figure..yes or no?
Can we agree on that?
2020-03-17 15:18:52
In reply to XFactor
Yes lack of hospital beds is an issue. I proposed using empty schools as treatment centers.
2020-03-17 15:20:58
In reply to maj
You cannot just think about US...you have to think global
2020-03-17 15:27:28
In reply to ray
I am, the only country that has wide scale testing so far is SK.
But even they cannot test everyone who's had the virus and have no symptoms.
The true numbers will take time.
Maybe I'm just optimistic about the situation because I don't want to see it worsen.
My wife works in healthcare and sees it first hand I am not undermining the severity of the issue. I can understand how people can think we will end up like China but I dont think we will. Or hope we dont
2020-03-17 15:34:15
In reply to VIX
Very humble of Trump to give himself 10 out of 10. Surprised he didn't rate himself 12 out of 10
2020-03-18 00:48:47
In reply to maj
majJoined: Mar 7, 2017
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In reply to Ayenmol
Ok the facts say 41 dead.
Opinions are not relevant.
Posts: 55283/13/20, 9:47:36 PM
In reply to Ayenmol
Ok the facts say 41 dead.
Opinions are not relevant.
Today....just 4 days later desth toll 105.
New estimates say 60% of Americans will be exposed.
5700 cases so far.
2020-03-18 01:50:58
110 now.
So almost tripled in 4 days.
Wonder when the poster will realize what he has done.
2020-03-18 01:58:06
In reply to Oilah
Very humble of Trump to give himself 10 out of 10. Surprised he didn't rate himself 12 out of 10
Give him time.
2020-03-18 02:09:45
Man. Have a live ticker on your title
Not sure how sophisticated this site is
2020-03-18 02:13:29
The CDC estimates that there have been 20,000 to 40,000 deaths in the United States so far this year.
Just for comparison, that's a thousand times more deaths in the United States than have been blamed on the coronavirus
NPR
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Where's the ticket for Influenza deaths..
2020-03-18 02:16:40
In reply to maj
Lots of things kill people
Not having a vaccine and the conversion rate to death
In the context of an emerging infectious disease with pandemic potential, assessing its efficiency at spreading between humans is critical, as is determining the associated risk for death from the disease. In particular, the type and intensity of public health interventions are often set as a function of these epidemiologic metrics. In the absence of vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 or antiviral drugs for the treatment of COVID-19, the implementation of handwashing and other hygiene-related interventions, as well as nonpharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing and movement restrictions (all of which are the basic strategies available to mitigate disease spread in the population), also generate considerable pressure on the global economy (2).
2020-03-18 02:23:48
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Yes the flu vaccine is worthless. Yes the flu is more dangerous than Covid 19. Covid19 may prove to be less deadly than the flu. We are operating on unknowns and what ifs. But the numbers dont lie.
100+ dead in America people go crazy.
20k flu deaths not even a whimper.
See the hypocrisy.
People are losing their livelihoods due to this unwarranted hysteria.
2020-03-18 02:30:36
In reply to maj
I will see the numbers in 3 weeks
I reserve
2020-03-18 02:34:46
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Have admin sticky this thread
2020-03-18 02:57:10
In reply to maj
Admin does not respond even when contributors violate privacy regulation
2020-03-18 17:02:33
No need to
2020-03-18 20:07:24
In reply to maj
People are losing their livelihoods due to this unwarranted hysteria.
If ever there was a time for warranted hysteria.
2020-03-18 23:55:17
Up to 150 now.
2020-03-19 00:01:30
In reply to Jamstar
Ticking along at an alarming rate, you think?
2020-03-19 00:27:03
the idiot who started this thread ,is just like Trump look for him to come back later and say he told you it would be dangerous.
2020-03-19 00:39:29
In reply to camos
I will be proven right..that it's not as dangerous as you hysterical hyenas would have us believe.
Still the flu which has killed 22000 so far and no one blinks.
Make sure you have enough toilet paper. Sheep's shit alot.
2020-03-19 00:48:04
In reply to maj
2020-03-19 00:48:38
In reply to maj
How many people died of cancer so far?
2020-03-19 00:50:58
In reply to maj
Make sure you have enough toilet paper. Sheep's shit alot.
I take it you won't need any, you will just shit outside like you were in Guyana?
2020-03-19 00:52:46
In reply to camos
Yeah I have my temporary bidet ready to go.
2020-03-20 01:19:21
Just a gentle reminder this started at 41, the count up to 214 now. 64 died today alone.
2020-03-20 01:42:56
In reply to Jamstar
525% increase in 6 days. And this aint anywhere near peak.
Imagine a 525% increase form here in 6 more days.
And a 525% increase from there.
But maj does not understand that.
2020-03-20 01:47:13
150 deaths that's it...American deaths make you happy.
I see he changed the name of the thread to indicate those who are siding on caution are revelling in death. how dishonest and rather nasty.
2020-03-20 01:52:22
In reply to Ayenmol
Address me directly, most on here revel on the hope America will fail
2020-03-20 01:54:57
It was less than 10 a day before that. Still way less than 22k so far for the flu
2020-03-20 02:02:15
In reply to maj
most on here revel on the hope America will fail
Man, this aint the time for that.
Time to talk sense.
2020-03-20 02:15:58
In reply to Ayenmol
Really the Red hat party is full of hate
2020-03-20 02:33:41
In reply to maj
changing the title is disingenuous bro
2020-03-20 02:36:18
In reply to methodic
He's not big enough to admit he was wrong, so he's working a new angle to deflect...and somehow project.
2020-03-20 02:53:40
In reply to JahJah
that's pretty pathetic
2020-03-20 02:54:20
In reply to methodic
like leader, like lackey.
2020-03-20 03:36:02
I will be proven right. i know you haters here would love to see to the death of America and Americans. that's no understatement, But it wont happen.
Idiot profesa and her cronies shout from the mountain tops everytime the stock market goes bad. Hate the white man all you want, but they have built what you insular islanders couldn't even dream up. Yes I consider myself American.
Nah worry America will persist and will send money and barrels full of food to save your banana republics.
Many of you live and thrive here but could never accomplish what you done in America in your respective shitholes. But still want to see Americas downfall.
Carry on red army comrades
2020-03-20 04:59:21
Typical MAGA hat skuntry, you have been exposed so now you turn to deflection, xenophobia, emotional manipulation and when that does not work falling on the ground and crying like a little girl.
Nobody wants the US to fall, we all either live there or have family there. Our collective succeses literally depends on the strength of the US but those of us with a brain realize that having a barely functional idiot as the leader of the Free world places that Free world in grave danger.
While you are on about 64 persons is a lot less than those who died from the flu did you stop to use your brain??? ( Did I just ask a maggot about his brain?) Yes that thing you are supposed to use and THINK!!! If you did you would then realize that 64 multipled by 365 equals a little over 2300. So yes we are now at about the average daily totals for deaths in the US for flu but as someone said this is not the peak and it will only get worst.
And that projection is not based on wanting the US to fail, it's based on science, critical thinking and just plain common sense.
It's the same kind of brain power I can use to project that as this thing gets worst and I update the numbers you will continue to deflect from the fact that you were WRONG you will continue to use xenophobic language to describe those who challenge you the use of emotional manipulation will ratchet up and when all else fails you will fall on the ground and start rolling around like a 5 year old girl.
Interestingly enough while you do that here the grand wizard maggot leader dotard will be doing same thing on a national stage.
A study really needs to be done on the maggot crew it's as if you all share the same 5 cent brain.
2020-03-20 05:03:58
In reply to maj
There isn't a single person here whose Country/State/Island is not affected by this.
his is not about America. What you are doing is wholly irrational.
2020-03-20 05:50:57
In reply to Ayenmol
It's not irrational it's dead on, many demonize DT and his handling of the virus.
Not enough tests.
Not enough PPE for healthcare workers.
Not enough hospital beds.
Posters on this MB would have you think that these issues are Americas alone and the cause is DT. They blame Americasn capitalism, fact is this is an issue in most countries where the virus is prevalent.
Italy basically has decided if you're over 80 you've lived too long..when does it move down to 75 or 70.
China has lied from day 1 now they have no cases, right. Twissy says China had it under control as of Feb.9th.
SK is the gold standard yet cases and deaths are spiking for them.
All that I'm saying is look at the numbers objectively. The nation and its leaders are doing a damn good job keeping the death toll to a min.
Yes i do believe the media and politicians have over reacted to the issue. People are losing their jobs and businesses due to this hysteria and senseless behavior.
Prime example of how the media is full of shit. They are calling the president and his administration racists and xenophobes for calling the virus Chinese. That's what they are focusing on and these same journalists used the very same term for months.
Does it do the public any good to focus on terminology. They have ulterior and its not the benefit of the public.
2020-03-20 05:51:22
In reply to Jamstar
TDS much.
Check the CDC website.
CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season.Jan 8, 2020
34000/365 is 93 deaths a day for the flu.
217/60 days is 3.6 per day for Covid 19
2020-03-20 07:31:39
In reply to maj
Of course for your narrative you failed to mention new vs endemic infectious agents in the population, and failed to mention how the flu cases are diagnosed and reported vs Covid19
But apples and oranges are convenient until they becomes inconvenient
2020-03-20 09:53:37
In reply to maj
Why not change the title back to your original post?
2020-03-20 10:58:14
In reply to maj
34000/365 is 93 deaths a day for the flu.
217/60 days is 3.6 per day for Covid 19
217/60 days is 3.6 per day for Covid 19
Jackass, you're not comparing apples to apples above. You are comparing a disease which has reached plateau stage with one which is at log phase. Damn fool...
2020-03-20 19:00:03
In reply to Courtesy
Typical maggot, we know for a fact 64 persons in the US died from COVID-19 yesterday but he is trying to convince us it was only 3.6.
2020-03-20 19:11:26
In reply to Courtesy
Post a day by day death total in the states to prove your apples to apples theory
2020-03-20 19:12:30
In reply to Jamstar
No asshole its 217 deaths divided by 60 days..
2020-03-20 19:17:00
In reply to maj
does it concern you that each day's death count seems to double the previous day's?
2020-03-20 19:21:21
In reply to camos
does it concern you that each day's death count seems to double the previous day's?
To Trump and his lackeys, this is a linear progression. It is not as bad as people seem to think.
That is the attitude with these MAGA skunts.
2020-03-20 19:23:25
In reply to maj
It's not irrational it's dead on, many demonize DT and his handling of the virus.
Not enough tests.
Not enough PPE for healthcare workers.
Not enough hospital beds.
Not enough tests.
Not enough PPE for healthcare workers.
Not enough hospital beds.
What part of the above is demonizing? Everything you wrote is true.
2020-03-20 19:23:32
In reply to maj
People being concerned does not equate to people hating AMerica...I think you lost it
2020-03-20 19:25:16
In reply to maj
Where fid you get 60 days from?
We are in the beginning of this crisis.
It is not poisonning where you die within minutes....it takes days before you get symptoms then once you begin showing symptoms it takes days of critical sickness beore you either pull through or succumb.
2020-03-20 19:29:36
In reply to ray
I think you lost it
Instantly....The man realized how bad Trump was handling the issue and probably realized what has been said about Trump for three years is accurate and that he has been living a lie and just cracked.
Now he blaming others to distract himself from the truth.
Man doh want to admit that the man he loves as leader is no leader....even in the weakest sense.
He attack a reporter today because he cannot put peronal failings aside for the greater good.
2020-03-20 19:36:23
In reply to maj
The most important thing in life is to know when to hold em, fold em and walk away.
2020-03-20 19:36:29
In reply to Ayenmol
that was not me you wanted to respond to , see Maj!
2020-03-20 19:38:52
In reply to maj
When are you going to update the subject line to say 200 deaths?
2020-03-20 19:56:09
In reply to Drapsey
Maybe he realize 208 is not 45.
He now realize he will be updating for a while and only proving himself wrong. Death by many deaths. The inevitable simking in....so he changed the lead and now pleading the fifth.
He asked for the thread to be stickied....maybe it should be.
2020-03-20 20:11:09
2020-03-20 22:51:45
Updated...still nowhere near the numbers you fools hoping for.
Italy 4032
Spain 1093
Iran 1433
France 450
UK 177
Wont mention China pure bs
2020-03-20 23:14:34
In reply to maj
I envy the black guys in here who can’t catch the carona virus 
2020-03-20 23:15:54
In reply to maj
Don't forget
N Korea
India
Pakistan
Iran
Iraq
numbers coming out of there are heavily contrived but it is what it is....
2020-03-20 23:29:14
2020-03-20 23:29:53
In reply to maj
still nowhere near the numbers you fools hoping for.
You mean the numbers you were hoping for just so you could defend Trump....You are looking smaller and smaller by the post.
Have a good one....Keep safe dude. Am done.
2020-03-20 23:37:47
The 195-country study finds national health security to be “fundamentally weak” around the world. No nation is fully prepared to handle an epidemic or pandemic, it says.
... the US is the “most prepared” nation (scoring 83.5), with the UK (77.9), the Netherlands (75.6), Australia (75.5) and Canada (75.3) behind it. Thailand and South Korea are the only countries outside of the West that rank in this category.
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2020-03-20 23:42:33
In reply to maj
Hate the white man all you want, but they have built what you insular islanders couldn't even dream up. Yes I consider myself American.
Nah worry America will persist and will send money and barrels full of food to save your banana republics.
Many of you live and thrive here but could never accomplish what you done in America in your respective shitholes. But still want to see Americas downfall.
Carry on red army comrades
Nah worry America will persist and will send money and barrels full of food to save your banana republics.
Many of you live and thrive here but could never accomplish what you done in America in your respective shitholes. But still want to see Americas downfall.
Carry on red army comrades
I salute you
2020-03-21 01:41:12
In reply to DukeStreet
US media is hiding the numbers too..you have some nerve to call out the others..
2020-03-21 01:59:09
next week this time USA would be doing good if there are less than 1200 deaths.
2020-03-21 02:07:41
In reply to camos
Bet??
2020-03-21 02:10:54
Close to 6000 new confirmed cases today alone!!!
2020-03-21 02:17:41
In reply to Jamstar
and for everyone tested there are 10 more people need to and can't get a test.
2020-03-21 06:33:09
In reply to maj
Approaching 300 deaths now.
2020-03-21 10:47:08
In reply to maj Bang on! Said it a gazillion times: gallop their arses off in leaving their boorteafool cuntries, but as soon as they get a good job & start feeling comfy - they start singing the Demoncrapic/socihitist tunes! Go figure!
2020-03-21 10:53:31
In reply to maj
When you log off you ever worry Karma won't find your trolling ways amusing?
Few things in life are without prejudice; Karma is one.
2020-03-21 14:43:35
In reply to nick2020
Karma dont know trolling, MB life dont count.
2020-03-21 14:46:32
In reply to mikesiva
275..
Here's a link I use
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Graph on daily deaths..trending down after peaking at.57
2020-03-21 14:50:54
In reply to BeatDball
Bro I understand more and more their hypocrisy.
They are digging a hole for America but we know the rest of the saying
2020-03-21 16:05:35
Covidiots are at large and are infecting this place.
2020-03-21 16:12:57
In reply to Khaga
US media is hiding the numbers too..you have some nerve to call out the others..
That list I posted is just a percentage of the contrived numbers.
Of course many nations are hiding the true numbers. I would be a fool to say just those are the ones. Everything is skewed.
At least I am posting numbers. Why don't you get off your fat ass and do something instead of pointing fingers. You don't want war w me bruh.
2020-03-22 01:16:03
We stop counting?
2020-03-22 02:05:06
In reply to maj
Karma sees all
2020-03-22 03:39:55
In reply to maj
Karma dont know trolling, MB life dont count.
Lol at least you're funny maj..
2020-03-22 06:34:33
57 March 19
49 March 20
46 March 21
Dont even attempt to say the numbers are under-reported.
Too many Independent bodies are confirming the numbers.
2020-03-22 13:01:38
In reply to maj
Obviously that detection of trend depends upon selection of time period for analysis but there is no statutory requirement for number of data. However, minimum 30 data sets (in case you are performing trend analysis) shall provide you better results and less number of data shall lead to a result which may not be truly representative of the actual scenario
2020-03-22 13:04:32
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
you are talking data science to maj a trump guy?
2020-03-22 13:22:31
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
I know it's only three days but I'm hoping the numbers continue to fall.
2020-03-22 13:23:26
In reply to camos
Yes only trump haters can crunch numbers
2020-03-22 13:25:17
In reply to maj
Let’s hope the trend continues
2020-03-22 13:27:13
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
You may wish to verify the numbers quoted above.
2020-03-22 16:28:43
In reply to maj
I think the number for March 21 is 47.
2020-03-22 16:56:27
Shouldn't this be updated?
2020-03-22 17:00:36
In reply to mikesiva
this is my reference
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2020-03-22 17:02:33
In reply to maj
...and your reference shows that total number of deaths so far today is 86.
BTW, even if you are learning statistics as part of an Art History class, you would know that two observations does not constitute a trend.
(I really did not want to get into this stupid thread so that’s it for me).
2020-03-22 17:05:03
In reply to JOJO
scroll down to the graph of the daily total
2020-03-22 17:35:59
In reply to maj
You do know that since you posted less than half hour ago the number shot up by 8 to 396 meaning there have been 94 deaths so far today!
Puppa jezzas.
2020-03-22 20:00:45
In reply to maj
Like yu talk too soon. Big spike dat.
2020-03-22 20:20:09
In reply to maj
Was this like 52 only 3 days ago?
By the way, 420+
2020-03-22 23:29:25
Update. 400 dead. 32000 infected
2020-03-22 23:33:52
In reply to maj
112 new deaths today in US.
Big spike, bruh.
2020-03-23 02:01:43
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Dr Bajwa from Brampton
2020-03-23 02:21:13
In reply to JOJO
I really did not want to get into this stupid thread so that’s it for me).
I can't say the thread is stupid. We are dealing with a sad reality. Yes! the thread is counting deaths but everybody in the world is. Most of us are not in the front lines, so the imposter that is part of our remote feelings is posing as our true feelings in some of us. Most of us wish for a world that can correct itself without any harm coming to anyone. However, that is not reality. And Covid 19 is showing us a reality that we never experienced and I never planned to experience.
2020-03-23 03:22:32
In reply to DukeStreet
Yes 419 deaths and a spike in one day deaths 117.
2020-03-23 03:43:38
In reply to maj
Yes 419 deaths and a spike in one day deaths 117.
Expecting it to trend back down again?
2020-03-23 03:48:02
In reply to JahJah
Hoping.
2020-03-23 04:00:46
This country has a ton of folk walk8ng around with pulmonary, asthma, cancer and other illnesses how the count going down? More to come, sadly. Some good news us that U Cal and a private lab named Qualitative have mapped the virus DNA and shipped out to leading research entities worldwide. 4 days ago.
The DNA revealed which human cells the virus attaches to for survival and as a result 40 possible meds in use that can help fight it. The probability os that 2 of those drigs could be really effective until a vaccine is developed. The real answer will be known in a week
2020-03-23 04:36:35
I would love to see data on those who were tested with symptoms but were negative for Covid 19.
2020-03-23 04:38:27
Maj trump said it was going away
How can you support such a person
2020-03-23 05:11:38
In reply to doosra
Sooner than later
2020-03-23 13:13:48
In reply to maj
U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams warned Monday that the coronavirus outbreak will worsen this week and said that people across the country are not taking the threat seriously enough."I want America to understand this week, it's going to get bad,"
2020-03-23 13:17:49
In reply to doosra
Maj trump said it was going away
How can you support such a person
How can you support such a person
You know the answer.
2020-03-23 13:53:20
In reply to maj
Approaching 500 now.
2020-03-23 13:59:41
The (H1N1)pdm09 virus pamdemic during Obama's tenure lasted until August 2009.
Why does Trump Admin think they can control this thing by June?
All of 12,500 people died then. I suspect much more will die with this Chinese virus.
maj, this thread is a sad but important one.
2020-03-23 19:17:43
In reply to nitro
Yes very sad, our lives will be permanent changed. Hopefully for the better.
I know working from home will be a bigger deal.
Cash money will be used alot less.
Supply chains will be removed from China and other diseased vulnerable regions including the US.
Social gatherings will be forever changed.
Hopefully life will be quieter.
2020-03-23 19:30:57
In reply to maj
I have had it with you and this reasonning.
our lives will be permanent changed
How do you know our lives will be permanently changed?
I know working from home will be a bigger deal.
Working from home was already a big thing and was getting bigger.
Cash money will be used alot less.
Again, this has been happening now for decades....yet am not sure how it is better necessarily.... cash money is a good thing to have in a crisis.
More money has been stolen from plastic than in cash...i guarantee you that!
Supply chains will be removed from China and other diseased vulnerable regions including the US.
So where jou gonna move it?
Your entire thread was about how this is no different than the flu....now you gone to predicting how this will forever change things.
Businesses make decisions based on money....that will continue to be the case....nothing you stated above is new....not all jobs can be done from Home and not everyone can be productive from Home.
Plastic has been the main use of payments forever and am not sure what has happened so far to claim a change or need for change.
If this is your attempt to admit you were wrong, then you are adding insult to injury.
2020-03-23 19:37:44
In reply to Ayenmol
You are wrong.
Shaking hands will be looked at as taboo..many are restraining from that.
Sick employees will be allowed to work.
The trend of working from home was being frowned upon, especially if you wanted to move up the ladder.
Cash was king due to identity theft..not anymore.
Yes many countries will no longer rely on China for pharmaceuticals equipment. Just watch.
You dont know it all. Your opinions are not fact. Im talking in terms of deaths not life changing effects.
2020-03-23 19:45:15
In reply to maj
lol... I wont bother...again this is anecdotal stuff that you ar just throwing up for the sake of argument.
The trend of working from home was being frowned upon, especially if you wanted to move up the ladder.
Do you work from Home? My wife been working from home for top player in a top Industry for well over a year now....They been moving more and more people to home, well above their initial plan of 250.
There are many issues that prevent that.....The nonsense you posted above is exactly that....Being at home remove the office Politics and allows the real good employees to shine.
Now if you move half and keep half...then the Office politics continue, but working from home actually helps remove the negatives that upsets how those who advance are chosen.
2020-03-23 20:17:20
In reply to Ayenmol
Nothing you said about your wife's work at home experience refutes my point about advancement in her company.
My wife been working from home for top player in a top Industry for well over a year now....They been moving more and more people to home, well above their initial plan of 250.
I said working from home will be a bigger thing..did i say it was not a thing..no I said it will expand.
Research suggests remote workers' chances for advancement may be lower than onsite workers, reports SHRM. A study of employees that work from home found that 50% of telecommuters don’t get promoted, despite productivity levels 13% above their onsite colleagues, SHRM said. The number of American workers telecommuting increased from 39% in 2012 to 43% in 2016, according to a 2017 Gallup report,
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2020-03-23 20:31:16
In reply to maj
So what does that have to do with the change you are talking about? The very post shows that work from Home has been increasing. Your point was that this epidemic is the changing point.
Then you threw some anecdotal evidence out to claim people have'nt been working from home because they scared it will hurt their advancement.
So how is the epidemic going to change that?
2020-03-23 20:35:50
In reply to maj
no I said it will expand.
The very evidence you posted shows it has been increasing for 8 years!
Nothing you said about your wife's work at home experience refutes my point about advancement in her company.
Actually she is being asked to hold a managerial position....She serves as a mentor type now where persons having issues with the Computer programs and finding information go to her for help.
She does not get the reviews anymore that were necessary in the office....because she is exemplary...in the office, others would have noticed that and it would cause an issue.
2020-03-23 20:51:54
Let me posit this as well, any people who wanted to work from home want to do so because they WANT to avoid the office Politics....While those who are wanting to advance generally want to engage in such and are scared to lose what they feel is an advantage.
Am guessing, since advancement is not for everyone that this hardly is an overarching issue to businesses making the move.
My wife and i are top on that list. We do not care to get deeper into corporate life....that's why i left years ago...and as my business grows and she grows her own, we hope to be working for ourselves exclusively.
Which is one of the things that will grow exponentially and i mentioned before....as people are forced to shop online now, many more will be inclined to continue in the months ahead.
2020-03-23 21:11:59
In reply to Ayenmol
Yes it will grow at a more rapid rate.
2020-03-24 01:47:08
In reply to maj
140 today? 553 now the total?
2020-03-24 02:04:56
In reply to JahJah
Can you smell and taste Halton police baton still?
Meftih.
2020-03-24 02:43:15
In reply to JahJah
I know the growing number sits well with you and other haters on this board.
But I will continue to update.
2020-03-24 03:34:52
In reply to maj
there you go projecting again.
2020-03-24 03:42:36
First 100,000 in 68 days,second 100,000 in 12 days, third 100,000 in 4 days worldwide at this rate 500,000 total in 2 days?? Thats scary
2020-03-24 04:35:55
In reply to JahJah
Tell me I'm wrong that many on here dont wish for the demise of America and its citizens.
2020-03-24 04:58:03
In reply to maj
You are wrong.
You are trying to defend a Country of 300 million people against a few people who have ulterior motives in making accusations.
But hardly anyone wants to see people die in such disasters....it's your own prejudice that clouds your judgement.
Besides everyone is dealing with the same issues.
You literally said you hoped Caribbean people die in greater quantity than Americans....so you are literally the only person hoping for others to die.
Everyone just understands that a Country of 300 mil people are going to have many people lost to a pandemic.
Add to that, after falling behind, then making the right decision...your boy wants to prematurely end the serious steps that has been taken to protect Americans.
2020-03-24 05:06:38
In reply to Ayenmol
Yes that was a troll post nothing more. But same ones throwing stones have thin glass houses.
He said he will speak to his advisers and make a medical decision. No hard and fast date set.
As for the deaths I maintain the numbers will be less than Influenza deaths.
Dont say because of the social distancing and quarantine orders the numbers will be less. Because those same measure will also lessen the severity of the flu.
2020-03-24 05:25:38
In reply to maj
Yes that was a troll post nothing more.
Man that was pretty low...and pretty damning.
You cant claim you are trolling when you are clearly calling for specific people to die.....then claim others who never went as far are somehow saying things they never actually said.
2020-03-24 11:25:31
In reply to Maj
You assume everybody is as despicable as you are.
Maaaan you suck.
Trump sycophant at all cost.
2020-03-24 12:06:34
In reply to maj
I know the growing number sits well with you and other haters on this board.
But I will continue to update.
But I will continue to update.
stop twisting now, your head is so deep in Trump's ass that you refused to see the bullshit he spewed at the onset of the disease. This is all this thread is showing , no one finds comfort in other people's pain.
2020-03-24 12:09:39
In reply to Cheeks
lol:
2020-03-24 12:30:14
In reply to camos
Every other country in the world reacted the same, except for SK I'm not sure. Mid December Dems were knee deep in Impeachment and nothing more.
Was he not called a xenophobe for cutting of China..man you sufferers want it both ways.
Then you have the chicken little profesa and her sheep gloating everytime the market goes down..yeah no one enjoys the pain of others.
2020-03-24 13:43:38
In reply to maj
Then you have the chicken little profesa and her sheep gloating every time the market goes down..yeah no one enjoys the pain of others.
I know that is what bothering you so much.
When you claim you are a genius and you are responsible for something most people understand you are not, then people will rejoice when you get pie in your face.
Second, The market is not the economy. Get that through your head.
Third....people with 401k are hurt when the market drops....and some lose the value of their stocks...yes... But this is being driven by people pulling their money OUT because of uncertainty to ensure they DON't lose the value they accumulated.
The people who lost are posers who bought in to the hype of increasing stock value. I.E those who come in late and buy at high prices that were inflated from other buyers to make a quick buck.
They gambled and probably lost if they did not pull out before numbers dropped below their buy in.
You on the other hand bought in to Trump claiming he is responsible for Stock market as this is the only positive thing you could claim from his Presidency, now it gone and you want to take issue with people pointing out the truth.
Of course we all know Chrissy is bias and loves to gloat when the inevitable happens. But this is about you dude.
You cant fault people for laughing at a gambler who loses big because he bet against something that was bound to fail.
2020-03-24 13:50:36
In reply to Ayenmol
Damn bro you do know everything and how everyone thinks..you sure you're not God himself.
One cannot argue with you when you got my positions and thinking covered.
So I'll leave you to carry on all sides of the convo.
2020-03-24 14:00:59
In reply to maj
Ok sure...attack me now for pointing out the obvious.
The fact still remains...your unreasonable attempt to defend an entire Nation against a couple cc.com posters.
You being the only one who explicitly stated your hope others die to make a point.
2020-03-24 14:35:06
Why don't we stop this macabre shoite!?
2020-03-24 14:38:25
In reply to maj
Damn bro you do know everything and how everyone thinks..you sure you're not God himself.
One cannot argue with you when you got my positions and thinking covered.
So I'll leave you to carry on all sides of the convo.
One cannot argue with you when you got my positions and thinking covered.
So I'll leave you to carry on all sides of the convo.
Another one bailing on the Ayenmol? I'm disappointed.
At this rate he'll soon be left to argue with himself.
2020-03-24 16:17:00
In reply to JahJah
Approaching 600 now.
2020-03-24 16:18:39
In reply to mikesiva
March 13 to march 24....45 to?
And that with all that has been done to limit spread.
2020-03-24 16:21:52
I posted a link earlier....Between Oct and Jan 22nd Italy had 247 flu deaths....the expectation was that there would be aout 258 deaths during flu season.
247....In three months from Influenza.....In just a month of Covid_19 they are having twice that per day....PER DAY!!!!!!
Are you kidding me with these false equivalency kooks!???
2020-03-24 16:23:40
In reply to Ayenmol
UK deaths up to 422, the biggest one day jump.
2020-03-24 16:35:45
In reply to mikesiva
They want to wait till people start to drop by the millions and this thing is well out of control before giving up their precious money.
2020-03-24 16:37:49
In reply to Ayenmol
Bro you are flogging a dead horse (or rather dead horses) arguing with peeps like Maj, BeaDball and there ilk.
Some of them use the word sycophants without even knowing the meaning of the word.
Let these guys rot in their putrid partisanship. Eventually the truth will out.
They keep talking, I keep waiting - for November.
Don't waste your breath.
2020-03-24 16:41:22
In reply to embsallie
You are right....But this is not about Politics for me....No matter who was in the White House this would be an issue....Aren't the two biggest hit States Governors Democrat?
i say that to say...it matters little. When these things strike all you can hope for is that common sense prevail.
2020-03-24 17:03:40
Let it be known that Ayenmol is noo sycophant of thump,he's a sycophant of his divine religious order if anything..
Let's keep things in perspective at least..
2020-03-24 19:15:30
Any updates??
2020-03-24 19:17:51
In reply to camos
This looks like a good call.
2020-03-24 19:23:12
In reply to bravos
So that would make you a sycophant of Religious propaganda found on the internet?
Just so we all clear.
2020-03-24 19:56:16
In reply to Ayenmol
Nope I just believe in logic..
God made me that way apparently..
2020-03-25 03:07:50
Bump
2020-03-25 03:48:59
In reply to Ayenmol
Sorry....replied to the wrong poster.
Fixed it.
2020-03-25 03:53:44
In reply to Cheeks
i thought so...
2020-03-25 03:55:30
maj?
2020-03-25 04:02:29
Like maj gone run and hide out with WestDum's irrelevant rass.
2020-03-25 04:16:57
In reply to JahJah
Nope went to a viewing, a sec cuz..21 yo. Not the virus. Very sad to have to bury your own kid.
2020-03-25 05:22:36
Darn. Everyday is a new spike!
Perhaps it's all one big spike unfolding, and still going up.
2020-03-25 06:38:05
In reply to maj
It's very sad. Condolences.
A lot of sadness due to coronavirus. American deaths heading towards a grand.
2020-03-25 06:40:57
In reply to mikesiva
Thanks.
2020-03-25 06:53:39
In reply to maj
condolences.
2020-03-25 13:15:56
I don't see the environmental control efforts I saw in China being done here, very little spraying?
2020-03-25 15:50:28
In reply to DukeStreet
Thanks..
2020-03-25 16:47:14
Shelter in place order given in my neck of the woods.
2020-03-25 16:48:17
In reply to camos
Spraying is only helpful IF you can cease public transit through the area.
People still moving around in the US; tubes full in England at rush hour.
2020-03-25 17:01:45
In reply to Halliwell
tubes full in England at rush hour.
Madness.
2020-03-25 17:03:55
In reply to maj
Deepest sympathy
2020-03-25 17:05:08
In reply to maj
Sorry to hear...young person
2020-03-25 17:05:48
In reply to Runs
Thanks
2020-03-25 17:06:06
In reply to ray
Thanks.
2020-03-25 18:10:31
In reply to maj
Nope went to a viewing, a sec cuz..21 yo. Not the virus. Very sad to have to bury your own kid.
Sorry to hear that. never a good feeling.
I know. I buried my older brother and Dad within six months of each other.
2020-03-25 18:24:04
In reply to embsallie
Thanks yes a sad story..couldn't really stay too long, they were only allowing 5 at a time due to virus.
Thia damn thing wont even let people grieve properly. After today no more funerals at all I'm hearing.
Sorry about your brother and dad.
2020-03-25 20:48:28
901 deaths.....from 45 just 12 days ago or so... increasing exponentially.
2020-03-25 21:35:59
In reply to Ayenmol
That would be the case.
Now from Trumps earlier skepticism and assuming a linear trend it would be 94 today and a whole lot more palatable.
2020-03-25 21:45:07
In reply to Ayenmol
A smaller death toll in the UK today, just 43. Total deaths now 465.
2020-03-25 23:03:46
In reply to mikesiva
people dying by the minute....941 deaths now.
2020-03-26 13:08:59
In reply to maj
any new numbers?
2020-03-26 15:52:10
In reply to mikesiva
That is good news for the UK.
2020-03-26 15:56:53
1042
2020-03-26 16:11:42
In reply to maj
your bet still on?
2020-03-26 16:14:56
[quite]
next week this time USA would be doing good if there are less than 1200 deaths.
[/quote]In reply to camos
And the winner is
2020-03-26 16:18:59
In reply to Jamstar
I was looking for that post to remind maj but couldn't find it.
2020-03-26 16:37:08
Somebody tell Trump that Maduro's Venezuela doing a lot better than state of New york and America in handling the virus
2020-03-26 16:44:37
In reply to maj
I am wondering whatever happened to THIS IS ALL A HOAX , MAINSTREAM MEDIA and THE LEFT to STOP TRUMP.
you need some tea mate...
2020-03-26 16:46:07
In reply to powen001
how is my homeland doing shorty?
2020-03-26 17:14:11
In reply to powen001
its not a hoax but definitely overblown.
the media is still creating unnecessary hysteria.
Cuomo..i need 30k ventilators..
im use right now 1300..
2020-03-26 20:23:43
In reply to maj
I am help you out here, just because you use 1300 now does not mean you won't need 30000 in a week.
The virus has been doubling it's numbers in half the time it takes it to hit a mark and that is why people where able to predict we would go from 200 last week to over 1200 this week.
This virus is working almost like a program.
32 days to get to 100
16 days to get to 200
8 days to get to 400
4 days to get to 800
2 days to get to 1600.
The above is America's future, in a week they will be at 5000 and in 2 weeks they will be at 20000.
This is science and you can't bully science and call it cute little names ( well you can : see Chinese virus) to make it go away.
2020-03-26 20:25:08
World Health Organisation Director General: "The pandemic is accelerating at an exponential rate. The first 100,000 cases took 67 days. The second 100,000 took 11 days, the third 100,000 took just 4 days, and the fourth 100,000 just 2 days."
2020-03-26 20:27:44
In reply to Jamstar
Thanks for making it obvious to those fixated on the politics and who's saying what as opposed to hard cold numbers.
2020-03-26 20:30:37
In reply to Jamstar
I hope it's not maj yuh talking to.
2020-03-26 21:12:53
the Dude Maj is not worthy of peoples time!
2020-03-26 22:11:08
In reply to Jamstar
Cases..its all about deaths.
2020-03-26 22:38:23
In reply to maj
Sir deaths have been following a similar trajectory I was just looking at a graph from March 10th were conservative actors were mocking COVID-19 because at the time we were only seeing 56 deaths a day. This thing is now pushing to 3000 deaths a day.
2020-03-26 23:38:39
1209 deaths now.
2020-03-27 01:10:30
In reply to Jamstar
Blame Dickblasio and Dems , they were urging people to go to Chinatown in the midst of a pandemic
2020-03-27 01:17:46
In reply to maj
Going to Chinatown caused USA's shithole country response and preparedness?
2020-03-27 01:22:09
In reply to JahJah
Yes it did, they told people they had nothing to worry about and the they had the pandemic under control.
So stop being racists and get out there you xenophobes.
Shithole America as compared to where? I'll choose the US over any paradise you're living in.
2020-03-27 01:25:38
In reply to maj
so china is where the virus started and China town where it started in the US?
2020-03-27 01:30:23
In reply to JahJah
Your great beloved murca is now a shithole???
2020-03-27 01:34:35
In reply to sudden
No you're telling people to expose themselves by taking subways and assembling in groups. Just to prove DT and others are Xenophobic and racist.
Identity politics.
2020-03-27 01:47:26
In reply to maj
Shithole America as compared to where? I'll choose the US over any paradise you're living in.
And I will choose any of the paradises I am able to live in over the USA any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
So what now?
PS: The shithole quip flew over your head, I see.
2020-03-27 01:52:35
2020-03-27 02:13:21
In reply to JahJah
Nothing witty about your remark just hate and jealousy..
2020-03-27 02:19:40
In reply to maj
Jealous of you? ...Trump?
What exactly am I to be jealous of?
2020-03-27 09:41:41
In reply to JahJah
Death rates by country to date...the top ten.
Italy 8,215
Spain 4,365
China 3,292
Iran 2,234
France 1,696
USA 1,301
UK 578
Netherlands 434
Germany 281
Belgium 220
2020-03-27 14:23:36
In reply to mikesiva
That's not the death rate, that's the death toll.
what's the actual death rate? any link to that?
2020-03-27 14:52:40
In reply to VIX
This site has death rates listed, although some of their numbers are off, in some cases.
2020-03-27 15:23:09
This is the site I've been referencing
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2020-03-27 15:28:50
In reply to maj
I use the Worldometer site mostly BUT it doesn't have the date rates. I get those from the COVID19 site or just do the calculation myself.
2020-03-27 15:33:31
In reply to maj
DOn't take worries...Trump say it's all a hoax...nothing is real
2020-03-27 15:38:21
In reply to ray
Nah the Mayor of NYC,Dem Rep. John Liu and the City Doc. said don't be a racist or xenophobe. Come to NYC's Chinatown and Flushing to patronize their suffering businesses.
Expose people for the sake of identity politics.
2020-03-27 15:45:43
In reply to ray
a hoax that suppose to go away as it gets warmer.
2020-03-27 16:07:19
Cuomo is questioning his quarantine strategy
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“We closed everything down. That was our public health strategy,” Cuomo said, as reported by the New York Post. “If you re-thought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don’t know that you would say ‘Quarantine everyone.’”
2020-03-27 22:37:59
It's now 2 weeks since this thread was started to congratulate Trump on his job of keeping deaths down to 41.
It's been 1 week since the starter of this thread laughed a the thought that we would be at 1200 in a week.
The count is now over 1500 and will mostly likely top 2000 by close of play tomorrow.
This thread will be screenshot and written about for along time, I think it because a case study in finding the cure for Trumpism.
PS the US will not be back up by Easter.
This is NOT the flu!!!!!
2020-03-27 22:46:34
In reply to Jamstar
PS the US will not be back up by Easter
I am looking at September return to normal.
2020-03-27 22:50:34
In reply to Jamstar
As with the other case of problemjay, that this was never the time to be boasting. This shit is serious business. Glad my 90-odd year old granny left NYC back to Jamaica a couple months ago after getting ill (unrelated to this) over there... while visiting her sister.
Hopefully she will still be ok in Jamaica, but who knows.
2020-03-27 23:11:32
In reply to Jamstar
The count is now over 1500 and will mostly likely top 2000 by close of play tomorrow.
Close of play? I wish this was just cricket. People we know personally or either dead, going to die or at least very ill and broke. Folks on here turning this into a political game.
2020-03-27 23:14:22
In reply to nitro
Close of play? I wish this was just cricket. People we know personally or either dead, going to die or at least very ill and broke. Folks on here turning this into a political game.
does Trump post here?
2020-03-27 23:31:00
The daily US death rate continues to climb. The world's largest economy is faring no better than other countries - large or small - despite having the benefit of the experience of several other countries. We prefer to beat our chests and declare how great we are, and how great our leader is.
History has seen this picture before.
2020-03-27 23:50:23
In reply to Jamstar
There you go talking shit, who congratulated Trump.
You want to blank Trump for the happenings.
But refuse to place blame idiots like Diblasio for sake of identity politics called people racists for not going out to get infected.
I started this thread to showcase the idiots who killing the Trump administration for not having enough tests ready. And to show America's healthcare will outdo those countries with socialized healthcare.
I still firmly believe the US will handle the pandemic better than most. With a population of 330 million.
Today China, Italy, Spain, France and Iran have more deaths than the US. With only China having a bigger population.
2020-03-28 00:24:11
Since 2003, 16 hospitals have closed around New York City, four in Brooklyn alone, putting more and more pressure on the remaining hospitals to see more patients under more crowded and facility-challenged conditions. For families living in poor neighborhoods, more hospital closings have put greater pressure on the surviving facilities, and they have also stretched the distances people have to travel to receive care.
Blame this on Trump too.
Andrew Cuomo vetoed a bill that would have increased the reimbursements to hospitals that provide a disproportionate share of care to Medicaid patients as well as uninsured patients. The bill, despite being supported by both legislative houses in Albany, would result in “increased and unbudgeted costs to the Medicaid program,” the governor wrote explaining the veto. The governor said any changes to the reimbursement system should be done through the state’s budgetary process.
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With 35% of all the US Covid deaths. Put the blame where its warranted.
2020-03-28 00:33:00
In reply to maj
Since 2003, 16 hospitals have closed around New York City, four in Brooklyn alone
these were private sector decisions, government had not much control over them. All the more reason for Medicare for all.
2020-03-28 00:41:52
In reply to maj the vaj
Hey fcukface. This is all on the Dotard and MAGA morons like you.
Only a month ago this was all just a democratic hoax. Only 2 months ago the Dotard boasted that there were only a few cases in the United Sates of Dumfcukingstan and that it would be contained. Now he wants to send Murica back to work and sacrifice old people for Wall Street crooks.
You can try to blame as many people for the abject failure and spectacular incompetence of the Dotard, but he’s the president and he’s the one who is responsible for this fcuk up.
And this thread will surely age nicely.
2020-03-28 00:56:57
In reply to camos
It was the reliance of Medicare and Medicaid that killed these hospitals. Low reimbursement rates.
If you continue to pay less for services this is what happens. Refusal to pay on scale as private insurance companies. In poor neighborhoods Medicaid is prevalent.
You still have to pay healthcare professionals a competitive wage or else they leave.
2020-03-28 01:01:39
In reply to maj the vaj
You just literally pulled that out of the Dotard’s asshole.
Camos is right and you know it.
At the end of this pandemic Merica will be screaming for socialized health care. Just like they are screaming for government handouts for everything else at the moment.
2020-03-28 01:08:48
In reply to camos
I am looking at September return to normal.
It is unlikely that things will return to normal until a vaccine is widely available. Even if the US gets it under control by September, there may still be an outbreak in other countries. as we saw with China, this thing travels far and fast; so there will still be travel restrictions etc.
2020-03-28 01:08:53
Trump and the COVID19 from earliest stages around Dec 2019 or Jan 2020
this is their new hoax
We have it totally under control
It’s one person coming in from China
One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear
When you have 15 people
and within a couple of days it’s going to be down to close to zero
We really think we’ve done a great job in keeping it down to a minimum
I like this stuff. I really get it
People are surprised that I understand it
No, I don’t take responsibility at all
nobody saw this coming
from the earliest stage i was the first to call it a pandemic
etc
2020-03-28 01:14:15
In reply to sudden
Don’t forget that the Dotard eliminated the pandemic response centre set up by Obama.
Had that organization still been in place Murica could have been ahead of everyone else in containing the virus.
Remember that Murica and South Korea both had their first case at about the same time. But look at how South Korea responded versus how the United States of Dotardstan responsed and where they are today in flattening their respective curves.
2020-03-28 01:14:26
In reply to sudden
That lying #pieceofshit.
2020-03-28 01:21:08
Timeline of Recent Trump COVID-19 Quotes
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 7: “We’ll hold tremendous rallies...I’m not concerned at all.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on coronavirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 10: "Our Coronavirus Team has been doing a great job. Even Democrat governors have been VERY complimentary!"
March 11: "I am fully prepared to use the full power of the Federal Government to deal with our current challenge of the Coronavirus!"
March 12: "108 countries are dealing with the Coronavirus problem, some of which we are helping!"
March 13: "To this point, and because we have had a very strong border policy, we have had 40 deaths related to Coronavirus. If we had weak or open borders, that number would be many times higher!"
March 13: "Today I am declaring a national emergency. Two very big words."
March 17: “I’ve always known this is a pandemic. I’ve felt that it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic ... I’ve always viewed it as serious.”
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 7: “We’ll hold tremendous rallies...I’m not concerned at all.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on coronavirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 10: "Our Coronavirus Team has been doing a great job. Even Democrat governors have been VERY complimentary!"
March 11: "I am fully prepared to use the full power of the Federal Government to deal with our current challenge of the Coronavirus!"
March 12: "108 countries are dealing with the Coronavirus problem, some of which we are helping!"
March 13: "To this point, and because we have had a very strong border policy, we have had 40 deaths related to Coronavirus. If we had weak or open borders, that number would be many times higher!"
March 13: "Today I am declaring a national emergency. Two very big words."
March 17: “I’ve always known this is a pandemic. I’ve felt that it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic ... I’ve always viewed it as serious.”
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2020-03-28 01:22:43
In reply to Courtesy
All of the Dotard’s lies thus far...
My favourite:
When: Thursday, February 27
The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”
The truth: Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned days later that he was concerned that “as the next week or two or three go by, we’re going to see a lot more community-related cases.”
The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”
The truth: Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned days later that he was concerned that “as the next week or two or three go by, we’re going to see a lot more community-related cases.”
2020-03-28 01:27:35
In reply to sudden
The Dotard and his ham and egg lawyers think the internet forgets or that they can censor the truth.
The new hoax.
2020-03-28 01:27:44
Quit frothing at the mouths..rabid lunatics.
New York
New Jersey
Lousiana
Washington
Michigan
See a pattern.
2020-03-28 01:28:22
In reply to SnoopDog
Tks. Gold nuggets for the November elections.
2020-03-28 01:31:33
In reply to maj
what is the pattern
2020-03-28 01:33:33
In reply to SnoopDog
And as sad as it is what Trump is spewing, his popularity is still rising in the US. Amazing, isn't it?
2020-03-28 01:35:25
In reply to maj the vaj
Listen Dotard. Keep up the daily body count numbers for the posterity of this thread.
At the end of all this the Dotard will have each and everyone of those deaths on his hands.
But one good thing will come out of it. A new socialist deal for Merica, including socialized healthcare for all.
That might very well be how this thread will eventually end: maj the Dotard vaj and rabid socialist.
2020-03-28 01:36:27
In reply to DukeStreet
The Dotards are ready to follow their leader to the grave a.k.a members of a death cult.
2020-03-28 01:37:13
In reply to methodic
Not my president states
2020-03-28 01:41:45
In reply to maj
that is sad. Is he only the president of certain states?
2020-03-28 01:43:02
In reply to maj the Socialist vaj
So pack your bags and move to a Dotard state. You’ll be safe from Covid19 there humping red necks all day.
2020-03-28 01:44:27
In reply to methodic
You see in these times, there are regular States, and there are Dotard States.
2020-03-28 01:47:31
In reply to methodic
Also top five in Covid 19 deaths..ask yourself why..
According to them us. Still waiting Rosie Odonell and the rest to move to Canada..
2020-03-28 01:49:49
Didn’t Michigan and Louisiana vote republican last election?
2020-03-28 01:51:10
In reply to SnoopDog
possibly represents a deeper state of hate. Trump states, less deaths, Trump people less deaths. People that look like Trump people less deaths.
2020-03-28 01:52:49
In reply to YoungWarrior
Who has a bigger impact on a state..its state and local representatives or the federal government.
2020-03-28 01:54:43
In reply to maj the Socialist vaj
Time to update the numbers dipshit. More than 1500 deaths in Murica.
2020-03-28 01:58:24
In reply to methodic
The thing is, Covid19 doesn’t give a flying fcuk if you’re a Dotard or a normal person or whether you live in a Dotard State or a regular State.
If the Dotard thinks he can leave non-Dotard States high and dry it only means Merica will be knee deep in Coronavirus till December, if they’re lucky.
2020-03-28 02:10:54
Those states have been carrying the rest of America...Dotards like maj should be grateful
2020-03-28 02:19:54
In reply to ray
In about 30 days from now this thing will be a total clusterfcuk in Murica.
The Dotard is in way over his head. Shit will hit the fan when one, or two, Dotard States get hit hard.
Covid19 doesn’t give two shits about the Dotard’s politics. This isn’t a hurricane disaster in Puerto Rico where he can just leave them high and dry because they are mostly Brown people who vote Democrat.
2020-03-28 02:23:15
Maj started this thread to show that in USA Covid-19 cases were few and deaths were rare. Over two weeks the thread is now showing the opposite. The USA is now the country with the most cases.
The thread is now showing states with diverse and immigrant populations are being disproportionately impacted and Maj is celebrating. I am not sure why because he claims to be an immigrant.
I will bet that over the next 3-4 months that position is going to be reversed and states with less diversity will take the lead, since the virus does not respect nationalities, borders or prejudices. There is already some evidence of this but in the absence of testing pretense is king.
Does anyone here know Maj, Nitro, Ridge, BeatDball or any of these so called Trumpists? Is it not strange that none of them are know by any posters known to most of us? Could any or all of these Trumpists be Russian bots?
2020-03-28 02:30:37
In reply to Headley
41 deaths.....Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities..
Stop crying about testing
Stop crying about testing
The famous first post.
1500+ deaths as of the time of this post.
Let’s see if he will keep updating the OP of the thread as the numbers get exponentially higher.
2020-03-28 02:38:19
In reply to DukeStreet
And as sad as it is what Trump is spewing, his popularity is still rising in the US. Amazing, isn't it?
Not really amazing. When a president is in trouble, apathetic supporters may be roused. The question(s) is (are) for how long and how many are they. If his approval goes above 48% those are solid numbers which cannot be easily discounted. Less than 47% is unreliable.
2020-03-28 02:44:38
In reply to SnoopDog
Let’s see if he will keep updating the OP of the thread as the numbers get exponentially higher.
He gloats when the numbers support his prejudice, not so much when the numbers show him to be delusional. It will be interesting to see how long he stays around and what contortions he performs.
2020-03-28 02:50:19
Like I said before the backroom loves to see the uptick in American deaths because it looks badly on DT.
Enjoy haters!!
2020-03-28 02:54:42
In reply to Headley
What prejudice..to love the country I live in.
To call out people like Diblasio and Cuomo who also thought the virus was not an issue.
I know I will get nowhere with that point, because you crazies only want to blame DT and no one else.
The closings of hospitals and calling people racists to come out and get infected mean nothing.
But blame one man only, it makes you feel better and makes your hate plausible.
2020-03-28 03:00:35
2020-03-28 03:00:38
Dickblasio closed NYC schools MARCH 15.
12 days ago..I wonder how many of those 1.1 million students got the virus in school and went home infected.
Yeah it was Trumps fault.
I know I'm debating fools who have a dead set agenda.
Facts matter not.
2020-03-28 03:18:03
In reply to maj the Socialist vaj
12 days ago I wonder how many....
If you have to state “I wonder” then it’s conjecture, not a fact, you moron.
And Diblasio is not the president, your Orange reality tv show Asshat is. It’s all on him.
Keep up the good job on the death count though. You’re going to be a busy boy in the coming months.
2020-03-28 03:58:55
Dickblasio closed NYC schools MARCH 15.
In reply to maj
Did he close schools and universitys around the world as well...just askin.
2020-03-28 10:42:23
In reply to VIX
The latest coronavirus death toll top ten...oonu too precise for me!
Italy 9,134
Spain 5,138
China 3,295
Iran 2,517
France 1,995
USA 1,704
UK 759
Netherlands 546
Germany 395
Belgium 353
2020-03-28 18:33:06
More facts on how NY became the epicenter
Below are quotes from NYC's Health commisioner
We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives and suggest practicing everyday precautions that we do through the flu season,” Barbot said on January 26th. She even added that those “who had recently traveled from Wuhan were not being urged to self-quarantine or avoid large public gatherings.”
On February 2nd, she urged the same lack of caution: “The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low, and our preparedness as a city is very high. There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday.”
On February 2nd, she urged the same lack of caution: “The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low, and our preparedness as a city is very high. There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday.”
2020-03-28 18:34:54
In reply to mikesiva
The numbers coming out of China and Iran are very dubious, to say the least. None of the data is 100% correct but China's numbers are wayyyyyy off.
2020-03-28 18:47:34
In reply to maj
this sort of supports your contention-
Timeline of Recent Trump COVID-19 Quotes
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 7: “We’ll hold tremendous rallies...I’m not concerned at all.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on coronavirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 10: "Our Coronavirus Team has been doing a great job. Even Democrat governors have been VERY complimentary!"
March 11: "I am fully prepared to use the full power of the Federal Government to deal with our current challenge of the Coronavirus!"
March 12: "108 countries are dealing with the Coronavirus problem, some of which we are helping!"
March 13: "To this point, and because we have had a very strong border policy, we have had 40 deaths related to Coronavirus. If we had weak or open borders, that number would be many times higher!"
March 13: "Today I am declaring a national emergency. Two very big words."
March 17: “I’ve always known this is a pandemic. I’ve felt that it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic ... I’ve always viewed it as serious.”
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 7: “We’ll hold tremendous rallies...I’m not concerned at all.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on coronavirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 10: "Our Coronavirus Team has been doing a great job. Even Democrat governors have been VERY complimentary!"
March 11: "I am fully prepared to use the full power of the Federal Government to deal with our current challenge of the Coronavirus!"
March 12: "108 countries are dealing with the Coronavirus problem, some of which we are helping!"
March 13: "To this point, and because we have had a very strong border policy, we have had 40 deaths related to Coronavirus. If we had weak or open borders, that number would be many times higher!"
March 13: "Today I am declaring a national emergency. Two very big words."
March 17: “I’ve always known this is a pandemic. I’ve felt that it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic ... I’ve always viewed it as serious.”
2020-03-28 18:57:08
In reply to sudden
Six! Middle of the bat, over the top of the bowler.
2020-03-28 19:02:57
In reply to sudden
Yeah he made mistakes but so did NY's leaders.
But Trump haters would never admit that.
2020-03-28 19:05:28
In reply to maj
Yeah he made mistakes but so did NY's leaders
Trump did more than make mistakes, he laughed it off as a hoax.
2020-03-28 19:12:41
In reply to black
Only MAGA hat deplorables, racists and rapists listen to him so what's the issue. If we die you guys would be happy.
But NYers were told this.
There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday.”
2020-03-28 19:20:22
In reply to maj
There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday
Early testing would have put a stop to that.
The Federal government should have been coordinating the logistical support and provide early test kits.
If you listen to the press conferences of the Governors, they will all tell you how they are having to compete against other States for supplies and in some cases, against the Federal government.
It's a big bidding contest of who can out bid who.
2020-03-28 19:33:05
In reply to black
The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low, and our preparedness as a city is very high.
According to the NYC health commisioner, NYC was well prepared. Put the blame where it also belongs.
As for the bidding, that's why the Feds are purchasing the equipment and then disbursing as needed.
2020-03-28 19:36:14
In reply to maj
if at that time when Trump was saying he got it under control, there is nothing to fear etc and the Mayor had stopped the subway etc., what would have been your response?
2020-03-28 19:39:47
In reply to maj
Why don't you park your arse into oblivion? You have become a nuisance here. You are no longer relevant here. Your posts carry no weight and you have lost the ability to be rational...irrelevant!!!
I repeat...park your arse in a corner.
2020-03-28 19:41:00
In reply to maj
According to the NYC health commisioner, NYC was well prepared. Put the blame where it also belongs
.
That was foolish but that was because they were going by actual cases reported, not by how many tests conducted.
As for the bidding, that's why the Feds are purchasing the equipment and then disbursing as needed
The Feds are doing a terrible job, Democratic and Republican Govs are complaining.
2020-03-28 19:48:46
In reply to Courtesy
lawd you treating Maj de vaj v scruffy there pardna?
2020-03-28 19:49:47
In reply to black
Foolish, so wasn't Trump going by the numbers.
Didnt all the worlds leaders go by the numbers.
Aren't we all going by the numbers.
2020-03-28 19:52:09
In reply to sudden
The man/girl is a nuisance. Education should always gift one with the ability to reason and be rational and not attempt to defend the indefensible.
2020-03-28 19:54:47
In reply to maj
He is the Pres...words matter...
He never took it serious...I still don't think he does
He lulled people into a false sense of safety
2020-03-28 19:57:48
In reply to maj
There's a big difference between reported numbers and actual numbers.
Do you remember how Iran had a high death to infection ratio? That was because only a small number of actual infections were being reported
2020-03-28 20:00:17
In reply to ray
According to you guys no one takes him seriously, he opens his mouth he lies.
So now people listen to him..
NYers listened to the mayor and his health commisioner yes or no..are they not partly to blame?
Why are you only blaming DT when there's plenty of blame to go around..nevermind I know the answer. Political bias.
2020-03-28 20:03:40
In reply to maj
so when NO, Dallas and Houston start to heat up with reported cases and deaths as Black says, who are you going to blame?
2020-03-28 20:12:46
In reply to sudden
so when NO, Dallas and Houston start to heat up with reported cases and deaths as Black says, who are you going to blame?
The Mayors.
2020-03-28 20:15:46
In reply to sudden
You address me as maj and vaj..then you want to answer you..I ever cuss you or call you names like a child.
Grow up.
2020-03-28 20:18:25
In reply to maj
u arent looking for respect at this stage, r u?
2020-03-28 22:03:07
In reply to maj
Foolish, so wasn't Trump going by the numbers.
Trump had advance warnings, national security briefings which he chose to ignore, Governors were not given the same quality information.
2020-03-28 22:10:53
In reply to camos
Bull fucking shit..stop making excuses..
Schumer and Gillibrand had the same knowledge..
AOC, MEEKS and others had the same info.
Buzz off!!
2020-03-28 22:17:12
In reply to maj
Bull fucking shit..stop making excuses..
Schumer and Gillibrand had the same knowledge..
AOC, MEEKS and others had the same info.
Buzz off!!
Schumer and Gillibrand had the same knowledge..
AOC, MEEKS and others had the same info.
Buzz off!!
the list you have there gets daily intelligence briefings?
stop making an Ass of yourself,I would give you more respect if you had a principled position on Trump but you are nothing but an idiot overcame by his charm.
2020-03-28 22:19:50
how did we move from 15 cases going towards 0 to 1600 deaths?
if that idiot was managing a company not named his own he;d be fired 10 times over already
2020-03-28 22:22:57
In reply to doosra
it is actually 1997 deaths.
2020-03-28 22:24:42
In reply to maj the socialist vaj
Hey vajjie boy. This clusterfcuk is the Dotard’s responsibility.
He’s the one your dumb ass self voted to be president and it’s his responsibility to protect and safeguard the country.
Of course all he ever cares about is the stock market. He doesn’t give two shits about you or anyone else in Murica other than his immediate family.
And you know what? Tens of thousands are willing to follow him to their graves instead of holding him accountable for his abject failure and gross incompetence in his handling of this covid19 situation. Murica - a nation of Dotards and retards.
2020-03-28 22:30:29
In reply to SnoopDog
Tens of thousands are willing to follow him to their graves instead of holding him accountable
Tell me about it.
Jim Jones does not hold a candle to this guy and his rabid followers.
Jonestown will pale in comparison when this guy is done.
2020-03-28 22:34:57
In reply to camos
This thread will age really well.
Apart from it being a sort of daily repository of the ghastly exponential numbers, it also shows the depths of stupidity of the average MAGA moron in the form of the rank idiot who started the thread.
2020-03-28 22:35:37
Need a thread to counter this one on how many have recovered, to keep things in perspective.
Jess sayin
2020-03-28 22:37:05
In reply to embsallie
Americans love a good con artist. And the Dotard is a con artist par excellence.
2020-03-28 22:39:34
Five of Donald Trump's most misleading coronavirus claims.
2009 deaths later...the dumbfuck is still fumbling at the wheel.
2020-03-28 22:44:15
In reply to maj
You don't use your other handle anymore?
2020-03-28 22:48:52
In reply to nick2020
Other handle?...do you think a different handle would save him the ignominy of being called a jackass? Nick, a jackass stands out. It brays, the rest of us talk.
2020-03-28 22:51:39
In reply to Runs
Need a thread to counter this one on how many have recovered, to keep things in perspective.
Trump's response to the crisis has caused unnecessary pain , both physical and economic.
2020-03-28 23:11:47
In reply to camos
Nobody got mouth..shut yuh skunt!!
2020-03-28 23:12:27
In reply to Runs
Do your thing.
2020-03-28 23:13:33
In reply to nick2020
Listen dont be a puss..I dont play prowi games
2020-03-28 23:18:55
Cuomo
Diblasio
AOC
MEEks.
All are at fault. Real people know this
AOC crying and singing house floor why illegals not getting checks
2020-03-28 23:21:09
In reply to Courtesy
Leader of the backroom crazies.
No matter how much crap you talk..
Dt will be re-elected
2020-03-28 23:35:44
In reply to maj the socialist vaj
Dotard will be re-elected
Of course he will. Didn’t i just tell your dumb ass that Murica is populated by mostly Dotards and retards, like you.
BTW, the Dotard has Covid19. But he’s so drugged up with medication and propped up with makeup that they have done a pretty good job of concealing it.
2020-03-28 23:37:49
In reply to Courtesy
The man is a bigger disaster than COVID-19 to rass.
COVID-19 not making any MIStakes.
Dump has made a whole trailer load and misleading too many folks that “this will blow over ...”.
Dang fool.
2020-03-28 23:42:56
In reply to np
...and he refuses to own up to his blatant mistakes.
2020-03-28 23:59:05
In reply to DukeStreet
The latest Trump approval ratings have moved south since your comment.
2020-03-29 00:09:48
In reply to maj
Busy with GT politriks my boy just got released, real %#}} behavior by some.
2020-03-29 00:16:44
Here is what needs perspective:
Louisiana COVID-19 deaths jump by 40% in one Day.
On March 26th the U.S death toll was just a little over 900
fast forward to March 28th- - 2days - and the US death toll is at 2010.
It has more than doubled.
2020-03-29 00:28:06
In reply to Runs
Oh Bryan..ok..yeah only some people are feeling the arm of the law.
2020-03-29 00:43:39
Can you imagine if President Obama did what Trump did as regards the corona virus?
2020-03-29 01:12:12
In reply to Courtesy
Barack would be impeached in the middle of the crisis.
Trump is rudderless and useless.
There he is vacillating again, saying that it may not be necessary after all to quarantine NY, when he previously and arbitrarily just threw out the idea that it may be necessary.
What a fucking moron.
2020-03-29 01:19:59
In reply to embsallie
We have had the past to guide us. Obama would have been pilloried by Republicans. Their snouts would have been grunting with hate.
2020-03-29 01:30:36
Freddo says no to quarantine..leave NYers to keep spreading the virus nation wide
2020-03-29 02:02:16
This virus has not yet really impacted the parts of the country where they hold science in contempt and going to church (in spite of the social distance warnings) has a political motive. I am scared pithless.
2020-03-29 08:29:47
In reply to DukeStreet
Of course...but how accurate are the official figures of, say, the US and the UK? I wonder if we'll ever know for sure....
The latest coronavirus official death toll to date....
Italy 10,023
Spain 5,812
China 3,295
Iran 2,517
France 2,314
USA 1,943
UK 1,019
Netherlands 639
Germany 403
Belgium 353
It seems that no other country's going to break into this top ten for now. The same 10 countries appear at the top of the death toll every day.
2020-03-29 11:13:13
120k plus infections
from 15 folks
15 to zero
2020-03-29 11:24:21
In reply to doosra
say it again for maj
2020-03-29 16:43:07
In reply to JahJah
Yes I know the backroom prefers 15k Americans dead instead of 15.
2020-03-29 21:41:32
In reply to maj
Did u want to re write this?
In reply to Ayenmol
No such thing as too few deaths.
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
No such thing as too few deaths.
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
2020-03-29 22:16:51
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
The only comment incorrect their was the exponential increase in deaths.
I'll stick to my other assertions, until the numbers prove me wrong.
So far the US is 9th in death rates at 1.7% despite having the 3rd highest population in the world.
2020-03-30 01:15:35
No such thing as too few deaths.
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
Maj who is clearly spending too much time listening to Fox and Trump posted the above. Why is this idiot still spouting nonsense? Does anyone actually read the nonsense any longer?
Sorry Dan, just saw your post above. Seems wise men think alike.
2020-03-30 01:21:55
In reply to Headley
Maj can tek a beating. Most guys would have killed this spawn by 03/15/2020
Maj, update the title.
2020-03-30 01:22:05
Amazing a country such as Japan which is closer to China than the other hard hit countries in the world and also a popular visited country by many around the world with a sizeable local population has managed to keep the corona cases very low and the spread minimal
2020-03-30 01:35:02
In reply to maj
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
not aging well
2020-03-30 01:35:43
In reply to nitro
48 deaths so far. Unfortunate but much better than expected given what has happened across the world.
not aging well
2020-03-30 01:37:02
In reply to maj
But 58 deaths since Jan.
not aging well
2020-03-30 01:39:55
In reply to Beatdball
41 out of 350+ million! Hmmm...that wouldn't be naught, would it?! Stop
the hysteria. Fool stop.
the hysteria. Fool stop.
not aging well
2020-03-30 01:41:08
In reply to maj
Camos
no updates?
no updates?
Yeah 87
My reference
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My reference
Link Text
slow prahgress?
2020-03-30 01:41:53
In reply to maj
89 per my source
no prahgress
dem gine dead wid hate fuh donnie
2020-03-30 01:42:39
In reply to maj
The sample size is still too small to get an accurate figure..yes or no?
can't generalize from a small sample, can ya?
2020-03-30 01:43:25
In reply to maj
My wife works in healthcare and sees it first hand I am not undermining the severity of the issue. I can understand how people can think we will end up like China but I dont think we will. Or hope we dont
still behind China, aren't you?
2020-03-30 01:45:38
In reply to maj
100+ dead in America people go crazy.
20k flu deaths not even a whimper.
See the hypocrisy.
People are losing their livelihoods due to this unwarranted hysteria.
why unnu gettin on so hysterical
2020-03-30 01:46:27
In reply to maj
I will be proven right..that it's not as dangerous as you hysterical hyenas would have us believe.
Still the flu which has killed 22000 so far and no one blinks.
Make sure you have enough toilet paper. Sheep's shit alot.
Still the flu which has killed 22000 so far and no one blinks.
Make sure you have enough toilet paper. Sheep's shit alot.
i think so too maj
2020-03-30 01:48:35
In reply to maj
34000/365 is 93 deaths a day for the flu.
217/60 days is 3.6 per day for Covid 19
217/60 days is 3.6 per day for Covid 19
shall we request an audience with Counsel Nigel Hughes?
2020-03-30 01:49:20
In reply to maj
No asshole its 217 deaths divided by 60 days..
are we out of toilet paper now?
2020-03-30 01:50:02
In reply to maj
Updated...still nowhere near the numbers you fools hoping for.
Italy 4032
Spain 1093
Iran 1433
France 450
UK 177
Wont mention China pure bs
Italy 4032
Spain 1093
Iran 1433
France 450
UK 177
Wont mention China pure bs
it's not even close
2020-03-30 01:50:34
In reply to maj
275..
Here's a link I use
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Graph on daily deaths..trending down after peaking at.57
trending down, like Dow
2020-03-30 01:51:38
In reply to maj
57 March 19
49 March 20
46 March 21
Dont even attempt to say the numbers are under-reported.
Too many Independent bodies are confirming the numbers.
49 March 20
46 March 21
Dont even attempt to say the numbers are under-reported.
Too many Independent bodies are confirming the numbers.
the Doward trend continues
2020-03-30 01:52:33
In reply to maj
I know it's only three days but I'm hoping the numbers continue to fall.
Shai Hope odi batting?
2020-03-30 01:54:09
In reply to nitro
maj, this thread is a sad but important one
we turning the corner
2020-03-30 01:55:03
In reply to maj
In reply to nitro
Yes very sad, our lives will be permanent changed. Hopefully for the better.
getting better, isn't it
2020-03-30 01:56:04
In reply to maj
maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
Posts: 5833 3/23/20, 5:11:59 PM
In reply to Ayenmol
Yes it will grow at a more rapid rate.
I know the growing number sits well with you and other haters on this board.
oh oh...uncle Don is getting angry now
2020-03-30 01:57:09
In reply to doosra
You wishing for the worst, it wont happen.
2020-03-30 01:59:08
In reply to maj
Maj
1042
1042
words never fail uncle Donnie,
i have the best words, biggest words, nicest words
2020-03-30 02:00:16
In reply to maj
its not a hoax but definitely overblown.
the media is still creating unnecessary hysteria.
hysteria...stop it Media
2020-03-30 02:02:36
In reply to maj
Like I said before the backroom loves to see the uptick in American deaths because it looks badly on DT.
Enjoy haters!!
oh oh
wishing bad on America and uncle donnie
2020-03-30 02:03:55
In reply to maj
reply
link maj 3/28/20, 7:11:47 PM
In reply to camos
Nobody got mouth..shut yuh skunt!!
goat bite uncle Clement?
2020-03-30 02:06:06
When it going up, the title doesn't say up from XYZ. But now...
I really hope it doesn't go up again, because the last trending down to 46 talk resulted in a BIG trending up right away.
2020-03-30 02:10:22
I know all this just about DT and nothing more.
Let's say the numbers were the same and your guy Obama was at the helm with his presidential swagger.
I'm sure none of you haters would be whispering criticism.
Gwallang haters. Your bias showing
2020-03-30 02:10:25
In reply to JahJah
One day down is not a trend...
2020-03-30 02:12:02
In reply to maj
I have never seen such irrational defence of the indefensible as this.
Am not sure why anyone bothers anymore.
2020-03-30 02:41:36
In reply to Ayenmol
One day down is not a trend...
Clearly not
This is what I am referring to
by maj
57 March 19
49 March 20
46 March 21
Dont even attempt to say the numbers are under-reported.
Too many Independent bodies are confirming the numbers.
2020-03-30 02:42:10
In reply to maj
Dear Leader now says 100,000K dead will be a success....
dude, get a grip...people don't give a shit bout Trump anymore, they too busy trying to stay alive while you're worrying how Trump looks
2020-03-30 02:58:33
In reply to Ayenmol
What am I defending..there's only so much anyone can do?
There is not treatment, you guys act like DT has the cure and hes keeping for his 1% buddies.
2020-03-30 02:58:36
In reply to ray
Trump is incompetent, now he is put to the test instead of running around talking about what a great job he is doing.
2020-03-30 02:59:49
In reply to ray
Exactly....He trying to come to grips under intense anxiety with what most people knew from jump....and he aint handling it well.
2020-03-30 03:08:35
In reply to ray
Its not about Trump..right!!
It's all about DT called the virus a hoax..
On this date he said this.
In this date he said this again.
It's all about Trump. Even the media is doing it. Instead of asking questions about the goings on, theor asking is it ok for some unknown administration member calling the virus Kung Flu. But you said Easter, but you said quarantine on NY, NJ and CT. I know MB support or criticism means snot, but damn you guys are negative and critical.
No, I'm defending someone doing the best anyone could do under the circumstances. I'm defending him because I want him to succeed. I dont get that here. By him failing people die and the country falls. I get the feeling that's what most of you guys want.
Are Italy's, Spain's, UK,s France's doing a better job. I wont even mention Xi, compared to Chinas fake numbers..
2020-03-30 10:02:02
The top ten official death toll to date....
1) Italy 10,779
2) Spain 7,340
3) China 3,304
4) Iran 2,640
5) France 2,606
6) USA 2,489
7) UK 1,228
Netherlands 771
9) Germany 541
10) Belgium 513
2020-03-30 13:55:31
In reply to maj
No, I'm defending someone doing the best anyone could do under the circumstances. I'm defending him because I want him to succeed. I dont get that here. By him failing people die and the country falls. I get the feeling that's what most of you guys want.
You don't get it.
Nobody wants Trump to fail. It is his general attitude about the whole crisis that has people baffled.
Trump is not helping himself when he always seems to be taking over the press conferences rather than leaving the podium to the experts.
He puts both feet in his mouth when he arbitrarily throw out promises that has no merit only to walk them back time and again.
We want Trump to keep his mouth shut, especially on things he knows nothing about and sound Presidential about things that he does.
We want Trump to be Proactive rather than Reactive.
We want Trump to Manage the Crisis based on information from the experts.
We want Trump to make it less about himself and more about others.
We want Trump to show empathy.
We want Trump to be less belligerent towards the media and the Governors who are trying to keep their heads and Cities above water.
We want Trump to stop blaming others for everything that has gone wrong.
We want Trump to assure the American people by ALWAYS telling the TRUTH during the crisis. Other than that
We want Trump to succeed, yes succeed because at the end of the day it is all about a nation in peril and everyone matters.
2020-03-30 15:59:36
In reply to embsallie
He will never be all of those things. I have come to that conclusion. He talks too much yes.
As far as this issue is concerned he bumbled it at first but I believe he is letting the experts dictate things and the issue is being well addressed.
As far as the media and Dem politicians well we know their end game and it's not for the people.
2020-03-30 16:07:31
In reply to maj
Trump is all about Trump...I could give 2 fucks about him right now...you seem to care more about him than anything else...get a grip bro
Worry about your loved ones
2020-03-30 16:09:33
In reply to ray
No I care about him doing what he can do help us beat the virus.
2020-03-30 16:19:55
In reply to maj
Good for you....maybe you can go do a puja for him then...
2020-03-30 16:27:56
In reply to ray
As soon as the quarantine is lifted.
2020-03-30 16:39:44
Trump is all about Trump...I could give 2 fucks about him right now.
In reply to ray
spot on.... he missed the boat and by so doing , accelerated us to where we are today.
history will not be kind to his level of incompetence.
This is not something that he can fire and make go away...
Deep thought is required in this situation...has always been, but of which, he is totally lacking.
2020-03-30 16:52:51
In reply to maj
No I care about him doing what he can do help us beat the virus.
Callin it a hoax? That works
2020-03-30 17:38:57
In reply to johndom90
man busy bigging up himself every second he gets
2020-03-30 19:20:05
March 30 (GMT)
Due to delayed and incomplete reporting from New York State, we had to make adjustments to yesterday's totals in order to maintain the correct attribution of historical figures. US figures for Sunday, March 29 could still be incomplete.
13199 new cases and 287 new deaths in the United States
March 29 (GMT)
19913 new cases and 363 new deaths in the United States
Among the deaths: a 42-year-old woman in Arkansas with no pre-existing health condition (and who had never been hospitalized before, according to her sister) who felt "a little sick" on March 15 and thought it to be a cold or a sinus infection. After developing shortness of breath and cough that wouldn't go away, she was admitted to the hospital on March 24 and tested positive to Covid-19. She was put on a ventilator in ICU and, after 4 days (on Saturday, March 2
, she died. [source]
Trump extends federal social distancing guidelines for an additional 30 days, up to April 30 [source]
West Virginia had retracted its report of 1 death in the state. We have updated our data accordingly [source]
March 28 (GMT)
19452 new cases and 525 new deaths in the United States
Down to 363 as opposed to 264 as the title says...it would appear.
2020-03-30 23:14:01
One long term care home in Ontario pushes Canada's death total from 76 to 86 over the weekend.
2020-03-30 23:16:05
In reply to JahJah
Is it the one on Sherborne st?
Fudgepacker
2020-03-30 23:18:19
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Is it the one on Sherborne st?
Why do you ask? Is that where your sugar daddy is staying?
2020-03-30 23:21:54
In reply to JahJah
No. Yours? After picking fruits all day
2020-03-30 23:41:10
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
The time yu here running yu mouth yu should be out dere buying yu depends...for both yu ends.
2020-03-30 23:55:38
In reply to JahJah
Should you be resting for a full day on the farm tomorrow?
Talking shiiit in the back room
2020-03-31 00:18:52
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Should you be resting for a full day on the farm tomorrow?
Nah. The week off. I think they sent the donkeys down south across the border, so you're new boyfriend will be with you momentarily. I'll PM you the tracking number.
Go easy on this one please.
2020-03-31 00:21:12
In reply to JahJah
I might live south of you in Oakville.
Watch you foolish mouth with all this donkey talk
2020-03-31 00:28:15
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Oakville mi rass.
Gweh donkey dippa.
2020-03-31 01:49:41
In reply to JahJah
I can get u a factory deal at ford
2020-03-31 02:01:10
In reply to Dan_De_Dankey
I don't drive American. Strictly Japanese or European.
2020-03-31 02:02:14
Let it be known maj is lying.
March 28 - 525
March 29 - 363*
March 30 - 573
2020-03-31 02:37:21
In reply to JahJah
How could I be lying if the numbers posted were incorrectly reported. Let it be known..you're an ass.
March 30 (GMT)
Due to delayed and incomplete reporting from New York State, we had to make adjustments to yesterday's totals in order to maintain the correct attribution of historical figures. US figures for Sunday, March 29 could still be incomplete.
Due to delayed and incomplete reporting from New York State, we had to make adjustments to yesterday's totals in order to maintain the correct attribution of historical figures. US figures for Sunday, March 29 could still be incomplete.
2020-03-31 02:42:15
In reply to vaj
You refused to update the title = liad.
Let it be known you'd DT's vaj and ass rolled into one.
2020-03-31 03:12:37
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
You buy your wife a Ford Mustang to drive around your gated community, right? It is 4 horse power?
2020-03-31 09:17:31
In reply to JahJah
The official death toll to date....
1) Italy 11,591
2) Spain 7,716
3) China 3,305
4) USA 3,173
5) France 3,024
6) Iran 2,757
7) UK 1,408
Netherlands 864
9) Germany 650
10) Belgium 513
2020-03-31 11:36:09
In reply to WestDem
I won’t buy that shit. Do you eat the pylori you sell
Why? Cause u know the shite in it
My good Mexican wearing a mask
2020-03-31 11:39:05
In reply to JahJah
don't drive American. Strictly Japanese or European.
Japan make a fruit wagon cart?
What brand?
2020-03-31 17:16:55
So any updates? I see the death toll up to 3400 and the infected is broaching 200000 in the Us....
I see the number of dead, having been sub 300 for weeks has ballooned to over 1300 in the last week in the UK .... Mexico joining the fray, i think some had talked about the lack of cases, as if just because they had not begun to be affected they somehow never would....
Meanwhile Dominican Republic seems to be pandemic central in the Caribbean....Puerto Rico catching up....two countries that also love to hug and kiss and are family oriented.
Guadeloupe and Martinique, same....over a hundred cases.... 4 dead in Guadeloupe so far. So the Caribbean feeling the effects.
Jamaica has been stellar....not sure why but the numbers have been almost negligible for it's size and the amount of tourist that it handles.
2020-03-31 18:10:05
This thread should be locked!!!
2020-03-31 18:18:19
In reply to mikesiva
3) China 3,305
I do not believe China;s numbers are so low. They either are not reporting truthfully or stopped at a number in order to not create a panic.
China's number of deaths should have an asterisk.
2020-03-31 18:20:02
America.just hours away of surpassing China in deaths. What a major development!
Yuh mean to say the so called Chinese virus worse in the country that labelled it 'Chinese virus' than where the virus originated? Nah man
2020-03-31 18:21:30
In reply to embsallie
When there were no other countries close to their numbers it didn't seem low to many but when countries are in the same league of numbers with them now it seems to low for many people
2020-03-31 18:21:41
In reply to embsallie
Why?
Because you don’t like them you think they should have more people ded?
Or because the number now within reach of Trump’s dither and delay tactics.
Allyuh good
2020-03-31 18:23:56
In reply to TriniStar
It is obvious that this is being mishandled in the US... I do not care for Politics or the attempt to raise one Country above another....But i have seen little increase in deaths in China for weeks now and massive updates on the recovered....did they find a cure? What caused people to stop dying at the same rate....yes yes i know they slowed spread.....but what about all the people who had it, how did they all recover?
2020-03-31 18:26:42
In reply to Ayenmol
Dont think most recovered. They just in hospital being treated as confirmed cases like in other countries. What China did amazingly is to lock down the Wuhan province and contain the spread within Wuhan and from infiltrating other parts of China in a major way.
2020-03-31 18:31:33
In reply to problemjay
Added to that the Covid-19 story began first there, and is obviously further down the road of the epidemic than most countries. Scientists agree that the recovered cases will increase over time and so the final case fatality rate will be lower than we see now. Most countries affected will experience this phenomena in 8-12 weeks.
Only foolish governments are unwilling to learn from the experience of epidemic 1
Instead, we have these ignorant arguments about who lying and who covering up!!!
2020-03-31 21:44:35
In reply to problemjay
And now China opening up the Wuhan province.
2020-03-31 21:53:15
No up and down in the headline anymore ?
2020-03-31 21:58:38
In reply to doosra
Nope. He cuss meh seh ah muss start mah own tred.
Is what today? Up to 700/800?
2020-04-01 02:00:44
In reply to Ayenmol
.But i have seen little increase in deaths in China for weeks now and massive updates on the recovered....did they find a cure? What caused people to stop dying at the same rate....yes yes i know they slowed spread.....but what about all the people who had it, how did they all recover?
BINGO! That is all I am trying to figure out.
Deaths due to a disease just do not stop on a dime. Even if it slows down, there are no reported deaths or no increase in that number for at least a month?. I find that hard to believe.
I leave the conspiracy theories to Honeywell.
2020-04-01 02:57:43
In reply to embsallie
Do you believe there are no Covid19 deaths and cases reported DAILY for China?
What’s your news source my friend?
2020-04-01 03:30:51
Wuhan population 11 Million. Deaths reported after the 33 year old doctor exposed people had already been dying prior is the current China government reported total. Deaths prior to January unknown. When the virus outbreak began is not yet known It will reveal itself after this wave currently abates and the time period from start to finish is recorded.
Governments hiding numbers is nothing new. Numbers to this day the true count of Smallpox deadliness does not even estimate the deaths of other than whites in the US. Of course the Spanish in South America had an excuse - they had no way to count but did say the locals were dropping like dead flies and cockroaches too many to count.
So with a secretive and locked in nation like China take that 3000 plus number out of 11 million pop in a place locked down 2 plus months after the outbreak with a grain of salt
2020-04-01 04:55:34
Dr. Fauchi
“Just to underscore what Dr. Birx was saying, if there was no virus in the background, there was nothing to mitigate,” Fauci said. “If there was virus there that we didn’t know about, then the answer to your question is probably yes. Now the only trouble with that is that whenever you come out and say something like that, it always becomes almost a sound bite that gets taken out of context, but I think that’s very important, what Dr. Birxs has said, is that if there was covert infections here that we didn’t know about, and we didn’t mitigate them, that they would’ve made a difference. If there was virtually nothing there, then there’s nothing to mitigate. And I don’t know the answer to your question.”
2020-04-01 05:50:24
In reply to Halliwell
Very informative, thanks for that.
As we know the UK has a problem with under reporting. Their death figures only include those who died in hospital. Those who died in care homes and at home are not included.
It's only now that journalists are finally starting to summon up the guts to question the UK official figures that they've finally started to include deaths outside of hospital.
So, if the UK is under reporting who am I to level similar accusations against China?
2020-04-01 07:38:48
Witnessing China's new 'fortress' against coronavirus Link Text
2020-04-01 10:07:08
The latest top ten official death toll....
1) Italy 12,428
2) Spain 8,464
3) USA 4,055
4) France 3,523
5) China 3,305
6) Iran 2,898
7) UK 1,789
Netherlands 1,039
9) Germany 775
10) Belgium 705
2020-04-01 13:15:56
In reply to maj
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
..............
2020-04-01 14:13:14
It's a pity I don't have time to reread this entire thread. It competes favourably now with Trump's daily briefing on Covid-19.
2020-04-01 14:55:28
50 states X 2000 deaths=100,000
It's not far fetched what they are saying in terms of deaths
2020-04-01 15:03:00
In reply to ray
Especially with the other states currently bracing for the impact.
I know Ontario steadily going up with people praying it doesn't pop off big time. The next 2 to 3 weeks here are going to be critical, me thinks.
2020-04-01 18:57:55
Uk was 1300 yesterday, now up to 2300+....
2020-04-01 19:21:18
In reply to Ayenmol
Uk was 1300 yesterday, now up to 2300+....
You sure about that? Could have sworn it was 1750-ish yesterday.
2020-04-01 19:38:48
In reply to JahJah
1408-1759
2020-04-01 19:44:26
In reply to JahJah
Ayenmol3/31/20, 12:16:55 PM
So any updates? I see the death toll up to 3400 and the infected is broaching 200000 in the Us....
I see the number of dead, having been sub 300 for weeks has ballooned to over 1300 in the last week in the UK ....
So any updates? I see the death toll up to 3400 and the infected is broaching 200000 in the Us....
I see the number of dead, having been sub 300 for weeks has ballooned to over 1300 in the last week in the UK ....
Up till about three yesterday and maybe later it was still at 1300....so they have added quite a few in just the last 24hrs.
2020-04-01 20:00:31
In reply to Ayenmol
Ok, so you posted at 5:16:55 PM UK time then.
2020-04-01 20:11:58
In reply to Ayenmol
Uk was 1300 yesterday, now up to 2300+....
Yeah, their death "toll" rate is approaching 10%
2020-04-01 20:36:43
In reply to DukeStreet
14 percent as of yesterday
But unlike Korea, they only testing once you reach hospital.
If you only testing sick people ... etc.
2020-04-01 20:52:54
war time president got blood on his hands
2020-04-01 21:05:41
In reply to doosra
And Trump still has favourable ratings. Goes to show that most in this thread are in line with the minority of Americans who view Trump negatively on managing this virus pandemic
All Trump and his team has to continue doing is shape this in the context of a war, the country is at war, rally around the Prez against an enemy sent from China, Americans love it!
2020-04-01 21:07:10
In reply to problemjay
Americans love it!
you and a few others here love him too
2020-04-01 21:21:29
Global death rate of cases tested positive is now above 5%.
2020-04-01 23:16:17
In reply to doosra
you and a few others here love him too
It's the right wing evangelical death cult Bro.
They are willing to follow that reality TV assclown to their graves. Murica!
2020-04-01 23:25:39
In reply to SnoopDog
wht;s the word Hilary used again
2020-04-01 23:31:41
In reply to doosra
wht;s the word Hilary used again
"Deplorables" don't even begin to describe the dotards of Murica.
These people are willing to bring the entire nation down to its very knees, and follow him to their graves, just to have their reality TV assclown as president.
In math terms it's the Jim Jones death cult to the power of 1000.
2020-04-01 23:44:07
In reply to doosra
you and a few others here love him too
Him tink we forget how him used to fawn over him?
2020-04-01 23:45:32
vaj, it look like it break a grand today. Yu not doing the up and down again?
2020-04-01 23:48:28
In reply to JahJah
The man depressed....He try a ting and stuck to it as long as possible....I hope he ehh nursing a cold....been gone a while.
2020-04-02 00:07:06
“They’ve done a good job, California. Now let’s see what happens, because we could see a spike,” he said. “I mean you don’t know. They could have a spike where all of a sudden it spikes upward.”
2020-04-02 00:18:30
In reply to camos
Wait till Covid19 hit the red dotard States hard.
We'll see lots of spikes that go upwards.
2020-04-02 00:24:08
In reply to Ayenmol
500+ dead today in NY
1,000 + today in US
2020-04-02 00:28:37
In reply to SnoopDog
You may be waiting a long time. The same thing that protects Canada is at work in the middle of the Country.
Wide open spaces. Close knit environs are where this hits hard....all will be impacted, but the large cities has been, and will continue to be the hardest hit.
Doh make prejudice take over common sense. People in these areas are not as itchy to be up and about or cry about economy like ninetenjack.
2020-04-02 01:01:26
In reply to Ayenmol
Unlike Canada, the people in the red Dotard States don't seem to think this pandemic is a real threat to them and are still stubborn to adopt social and physical distancing measures.
It will hit them, and it will hit them hard. The only question is, when?
2020-04-02 01:06:19
In reply to SnoopDog
You make this claim based on what?
Missouri has had a shelter in place for a week.
Limit of 10 persons for 2 plus weeks, and encouraging social distancing since March 10th.
Hardly anyone on the streets....like a ghost town....the things am seeing in Florida and saw in California a week after we reduced gathering to 10 or less made my mouth drop.
Quit the generalizing.
2020-04-02 01:09:42
In reply to DukeStreet
That is a substantial reduction from yesterday
2020-04-02 01:12:10
In reply to Ayenmol
Go listen to what people like Devin Nunes is telling his constituents about getting back out there and back to work next week.
Don't be like that moron ninetenjack who didn't listen to me in December when I told him to cash out of the ponzi market and now he doesn't have a bucket to piss in or a window to throw it out from.
This virus has found its way to fcuking Easter Island of all places. No where is immune or isolated from its reach.
But we'll see who is right in a month's time.
2020-04-02 01:35:57
In reply to SnoopDog
Devin Nunez represents California....
No one in my State or Arkansas are talking that garbage....And these people here are Red to the bone....Just because them people went with party and put Trump in the White House does not make them fools with their lives, they still make independent decisions on a day to day basis....even the State Leaders.
2020-04-02 01:58:53
In reply to JahJah
You cant do math?
Oh right neva mind.
2020-04-02 02:00:04
In reply to Ayenmol
Depressed no. Symptoms no. Busy yes.
2020-04-02 02:00:42
In reply to maj
1049 in one day.... makes that 47 look like a looooong time ago does'ntit.
How the family maj?
Keep safe.
2020-04-02 02:08:53
In reply to Ayenmol
1941 in NYS
1000+ in NYC
Idiots propping up Captain Obvious for prezy.
Same idiots neva listened to DT until now.
Same idiots frothing over American deaths.
Same idiots believe China's numbers are real.
2020-04-02 02:09:30
In reply to JahJah
You cant do math?
Oh right neva mind.
You cant do math?
Oh right neva mind.
Instead of numbers, use fruits.
Eg.
If 1 dollar buys 12 bananas. How many bananas can you get for 1 dollar?
2020-04-02 02:18:08
In reply to maj the vaj
Depressed no. Symptoms no. Busy updating the numbers on this thread; yes.
At least you're honest about one thing in your sad, pathetic, miserable life.
2020-04-02 02:43:57
In reply to maj
Same idiots neva listened to DT until now.
Which statement?
The hoax? The weaponizing? We have it under control? We are prepared?
2020-04-02 02:48:34
1000+ in a day? And it will become much higher?
Simply unbelievable. Three months ago, who would have thought this would have occurred? A lesson for the whole world - autocrats, narcissists and every everything in between.
2020-04-02 02:50:25
In reply to Norm
Does it matter, only deplorables listen and follow DT. It all lies and Dems too smart to listen to not my president DT.
According to NYC mayor the chance of infection was low and the city's preparedness was high.
NYers were go about your business, take the subways. Yes the same petri dish of a subway.
He and his administration are the cause for NYC 's outbreak.
2020-04-02 02:50:48
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Gotcha
2020-04-02 03:07:42
In reply to maj
He and his administration are the cause for NYC 's outbreak.
The fact remains that Trump, Cuomo and company were (and are) in charge of that disaster area, and they are still seem to care more about the political fallout than about the hundreds of thousands facing death.
We will see where this goes, but the core beliefs and practices of different governments will once again be scrutinized carefully, just as they were after the 2 world wars. A silver lining, perhaps.
2020-04-02 03:14:10
In reply to Norm
Why are you so hesitant to place blame on Diblasio?
Yes they are ultimately in charge. But Dickblasio has more blood on his hands.
He and his administration called NYers xenophobic for not patriotism Chinese businesses, but people were avoiding eateries of every kinf. He played identity politics with peoples lives.
2020-04-02 04:06:32
In reply to maj
for not patriotism Chinese businesses
You mean patronizing?
What if it were Caribbean businesses they were choosing not to patronize?
He played identity politics with peoples lives.
Um, that's not the way it works.
2020-04-02 04:37:13
In reply to Ayenmol
People were avoiding all restaurants, why do you think many are closed today, even though deemed essential.
Tell me how it works then...if you avoid Asian American businesses you are xenophobe. In this crisis it's the smart thing to do..mitigation.
Even though the virus came from China and Chinese travelers brought the disease all over the world. Would you vacation in China right now? You dont think people are avoiding Italian restaurants now.
Little Italy and Chinatown are side by side neighborhoods in Downtown Manhattan, I'm sure you know that.
BTW, Sybils has been closed for weeks due to lack of business. The busiest Guyanese Bakery/Restaurant in Queens.
2020-04-02 04:47:00
Here's Dickblasio again.
"Transmission is not that easy"
" we're not going to shut down our schools...".
Link Text
2020-04-02 05:02:54
In reply to maj
Why are you so hesitant to place blame on Diblasio?
Because blaming is not important to me, and I don't know who Diblasio is. (I live in California.)
He and his administration called NYers xenophobic for not patriotism Chinese businesses
Business and politics before everything else, as usual.
2020-04-02 07:07:57
In reply to maj
At the end of the day, the blame falls onto Trump, irrespective of who the governor is for whatever particular state. Even though they can make independent decisions, we still operate as the United States of America, the last time I checked. Let Trump, for once, be a man and accept the blame. Nuff said.
2020-04-02 08:16:49
In reply to DukeStreet
Yes give him blame, but blame must be assigned to those who reacted and were not pro-active just like him. I dont see why it's so hard to do.
2020-04-02 08:18:43
In reply to Norm
Diblasio is the idiot mayor of NYC who thought he could be president for a New York min.
5 seconds regular time.
2020-04-02 08:25:35
In reply to Ayenmol
It was just a matter of time before the UK crossed 2,300....
The official death toll to date:
1) Italy 13,155
2) Spain 9,387
3) USA 5,112
4) France 4,032
5) China 3,318
6) Iran 3,036
7) UK 2,352
Netherlands 1,173
9) Germany 931
10) Belgium 828
2020-04-02 12:56:37
In reply to maj
Yes give him blame, but blame must be assigned to those who reacted and were not pro-active just like him. I dont see why it's so hard to do.
I already assigned blame to them!! Did you not read my previous post? But I also put the big blame squarely on Trump's shoulder. Isn't he a big man enough to take it?
2020-04-02 15:46:36
In reply to DukeStreet
Well the blame game gets us no where. Its time to move on from that and work towards resolution.
From all accounts, this pandemic will last a long time with a second round in the near future.
2020-04-02 19:20:29
This is an interesting read....flu stats this season.
2020-04-02 19:59:03
China, the beloved nation of this MB has certainly screwed us, killing off our people. The poor black folks of New Orleans with probably the highest number of diabetes and other lifestyle diseases being slaughtered by this Chinese virus.
2020-04-02 21:10:16
In reply to nitro
All densely populated cities are being ravaged, guess who lives in these areas.
Beloved China is winning in the eyes of many on this MB.
They couldn't be happier.
2020-04-02 21:15:41
In reply to maj
Democrats fault ent? you should be happy then
2020-04-02 21:37:27
In reply to maj
You cant do math?
Yes, I can vagie, but I just wondered if you suddenly lost your calculator and are now relying on your skills acquired from Trump University.
2020-04-02 22:13:33
In reply to sudden
Well you called it..I'm done with that. I'm just going to say from now on. No matter what was not done previously by any government official we would still be seeing these types of fatalities.
This virus was engineered to beat any mitigation in its path.
Even a full lockdown brought the virus home to be spread.
Again its about the China loving fools on the board. Happy to praise China as black and brown communities dying off like flies.
2020-04-02 22:15:49
In reply to maj
so Trump had nothing to do with the delayed response or you juts want to forget that and focus on China , the common enemy?
2020-04-02 22:25:40
In reply to maj
Stop with that narrative. Only very few loving China...like problemjay.
2020-04-02 22:39:27
In reply to sudden
Yes he and others had a delayed response.
On a another point.
Everybody's is killing themselves for ventilators.
Cuomo said today once you go on the vent..you have a 20% chance of surviving. Seems to me another treatment is needed for those who are critical.
Saw a video of a man in Ohio, he says the virus wants you to relax and die not fight it. He said by walking around and vomiting he saved himself. A 20% success rate is not a strategy to be chasing.
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2020-04-02 23:06:45
Deadliest day yet here in Canada and it nuh done yet. 59 dead.
2020-04-02 23:16:06
The numbers are leaping just about everywhere...Keep am eye on Brazil and Mexico....their Cases are beginning to grow wildly.
2020-04-03 01:52:06
The propaganda that Maj and the other idiot Trumpists are spreading is being stage-crafted. These clowns are well scripted with daily talking points.
It was during this lull — before the human and economic toll became undeniable — when the story of the coronavirus among the president’s most stalwart defenders evolved into the kind of us-versus-them clash that Trump has waged for much of his life.
Now, with the nation’s economic and physical health in clear peril, Trump and many of his allies on the airwaves and online are blaming familiar enemies in the Democratic Party and the news media.
The pervasiveness of the denial among many of Trump’s followers from early in the outbreak, and their sharp pivot to finding fault with an old foe once the crisis deepened, is a pattern that one expert in the spread of misinformation said resembled a textbook propaganda campaign.
Now, with the nation’s economic and physical health in clear peril, Trump and many of his allies on the airwaves and online are blaming familiar enemies in the Democratic Party and the news media.
The pervasiveness of the denial among many of Trump’s followers from early in the outbreak, and their sharp pivot to finding fault with an old foe once the crisis deepened, is a pattern that one expert in the spread of misinformation said resembled a textbook propaganda campaign.
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2020-04-03 08:41:24
In reply to nitro
Big deal! The Spanish Flu that killed off 50-100 million in 1919-20 didn't originate in Spain. The first case reportedly came from Kansas...but it wasn't called the American virus, was it? And what action was taken to sue the US for this horrendous disease? Hmmm....
The official death toll to date....
1) Italy 13,915
2) Spain 10,348
3) USA 6,095
4) France 5,387
5) China 3,322
6) Iran 3,160
7) UK 2,921
Netherlands 1,339
9) Germany 1,107
10) Belgium 1,011
2020-04-03 09:40:23
In reply to mikesiva
I hear you and would agree with you except i strongly believe this is a virus developed by the Chinese for biological warfare that got out accidentally.
The character of this virus is like nothing ever seen by scientists. The way it mutates, it has the ability to act in stealth mode and it affects every organ of the body.
2020-04-03 10:18:49
In reply to nitro
The way it mutates, it has the ability to act in stealth mode and it affects every organ of the body.
What evidence have you seen that this virus mutates? Do you even fully understand what that means?
2020-04-03 12:20:09
In reply to nitro
I hear you and would agree with you except i strongly believe this is a virus developed by the Chinese for biological warfare that got out accidentally.
And you're ignoring the claim that Canada and India had something to do with the development of the virus.
I forgot the link, but I did post it when that item of 'News' broke.
2020-04-03 12:21:47
In reply to Dukes
asking a trumpite for evidence?
2020-04-03 12:49:51
In reply to Dukes
So when you getting out of your armchair, strapping on your N95 and gloves and going to the hospitals to help them?
No excuses about bone spurs. Get some pain relievers, ice it and stretch dem bones. Get out and walk.
2020-04-03 12:51:04
In reply to Dukes
I know you're retired, Dr Dukes, but being a good citizen, shouldn't you be answering the call for all able-bodied medical personnel to be on deck?
2020-04-03 13:52:52
In reply to nitro
The character of this virus is like nothing ever seen by scientists. The way it mutates, it has the ability to act in stealth mode and it affects every organ of the body.
That sounds like a trump text for later
“The most mutatingest strangest virusest virus ‘the scientists’ ever seen. Everybody is saying it”
2020-04-03 13:55:03
In reply to Dukes
Studies carried out by the University of Valencia and the regional Foundation for Health and Biomedical Investigation, which resulted in the first sequences of the SARS-CoV2 virus obtained in Spain, have concluded that the coronavirus in Spain has mutated from the original outbreak in Wuhan.
2020-04-03 14:05:12
For those of us who have eyes to read and discern bull from bullock.
"The genome of the virus is constantly mutating and it is precisely this that allows us to follow its trajectory across different countries and transmission chains. The patients in isolation in Valencia have displayed various mutations of the original virus sequenced in Wuhan. But that is normal: almost all of the viruses sequenced to date have presented some differences to the first. The most in one case, isolated in Brazil, has 16 mutations."
2020-04-03 14:12:35
How coronavirus mutations can track its spread...
...As menacing as the word sounds, mutations don’t mean the virus is becoming more harmful. Instead, these subtle shifts in the virus’s genetic code are helping researchers quickly figure out where it’s been, as well as dispel myths about its origins...
2020-04-03 14:15:29
In reply to Ayenmol
I cant imagine if that thing get away in Sao Paulo Brazil with one of the largest slums in the world. Lord help them.
2020-04-03 14:22:04
In reply to nitro
The character of this virus is like nothing ever seen by scientists. The way it mutates, it has the ability to act in stealth mode and it affects every organ of the body.
Nonsense, all RNA viruses of this nature, mutates. Mutation, does not mean a complete change, it will still maintain the characteristics that links it to the family of viruses.
2020-04-03 15:23:02
New Yok, New York...I feel your pain. There is no point to be made in posting yesterday's number of deaths.
2020-04-03 15:39:08
In reply to Courtesy
Yes poor NY
The hospitals are filled, Emergency Departments swamped.
Other indications like Cancer, heart attacks,emergency surgery, etc no help available.
Call a doctor , office closed. Cannot go to a hospital, one stays home.
The numbers will rise rapidly.
The moron at the white house would claim his border wall and travel stoppage helped the carnage of millions.
2020-04-03 15:39:51
In reply to Courtesy
Ok Comrade. Thanks for the enlightenment (if that is a word).
2020-04-03 15:40:26
In reply to black
Ok Dr black.
2020-04-03 15:49:30
In reply to black
Well look at you black
In 6 weeks you’ve gone from ‘a virus is a bacteria’ to explaining antigenic shift and drift!
Metamorphosis!
2020-04-03 15:54:49
In reply to Courtesy
...As menacing as the word sounds, mutations don’t mean the virus is becoming more harmful. Instead, these subtle shifts in the virus’s genetic code are helping researchers quickly figure out where it’s been, as well as dispel myths about its origins...
Thanks for helping some individuals on this thread understand mutations.Some will still not get it.
2020-04-03 16:51:11
Doctor Giuseppe Remuzzi, director of the Mario Negri Pharmacology Institute in Milan, became a superstar in China. Remuzzi talks about his explosive findings in conversations with general practitioners in Lombardy.
“Do you know what happened? Certain family doctors, who have the best antennas in the territory, at least the most able and attentive ones, have told me recently that they were seeing grave cases of pneumonia, which we had never seen in other years.
These pneumonia cases had nothing to do with typical flu pneumonia, they were interstitial pneumonias, they had to do CT, radiography [to diagnose it], and this was seen in October, November, December. So this virus has been circulating a long time.”
That was indeed in parallel with or even before the first coronavirus cases in Wuhan in mid-November. It’s been already scientifically established that the virus strains in Wuhan and in Lombardy are different. Which came first, and where from, remains a matter of incendiary debate.
“Do you know what happened? Certain family doctors, who have the best antennas in the territory, at least the most able and attentive ones, have told me recently that they were seeing grave cases of pneumonia, which we had never seen in other years.
These pneumonia cases had nothing to do with typical flu pneumonia, they were interstitial pneumonias, they had to do CT, radiography [to diagnose it], and this was seen in October, November, December. So this virus has been circulating a long time.”
That was indeed in parallel with or even before the first coronavirus cases in Wuhan in mid-November. It’s been already scientifically established that the virus strains in Wuhan and in Lombardy are different. Which came first, and where from, remains a matter of incendiary debate.
Idiopathic interstitial pneumonias (IIPs) are part of a broad, heterogeneous group of interstitial lung diseases that encompasses more than 200 acute or chronic diseases with varying degrees of inflammation or fibrosis.
Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis (IPF), is a fatal disease with a poor prognosis, and the therapeutic options are limited.
2020-04-03 16:58:21
In reply to Halliwell
Well look at you black
In 6 weeks you’ve gone from ‘a virus is a bacteria’ to explaining antigenic shift and drift!
In 6 weeks you’ve gone from ‘a virus is a bacteria’ to explaining antigenic shift and drift!
That is a total lie.
I know the difference between a virus and a bacteria.
Or you are mistaken, it was me who pointed of the differences.
Ask, Courtesy.
2020-04-03 18:10:10
In reply to Courtesy
Are you going to come to my defense?
Halliwell is spreading lies about me.
2020-04-03 18:14:08
In reply to black
I know it wasn’t you, and bravos meant ‘disease’ as in plague, not The Plague Yersinia pestis.
I mean your threads were on that level 6 weeks ago
Anyway, I’m glad you e googled you way to this point. It’s actually helpful! This is me giving you credit.
2020-04-03 18:21:03
In reply to Halliwell
Anyway, I’m glad you e googled you way to this point
Nah, I didn't need to.
2020-04-03 18:55:14
In reply to black
You're not in Bravos' class. You do know the difference between virus and bacteria.
2020-04-03 18:59:36
In reply to Courtesy
2020-04-03 19:01:33
In reply to Courtesy
Thanks, Sir.
2020-04-03 19:04:57
In reply to sgtdjones
You are perhaps doubting me.
What is the most feared virus
black 3/26/20, 2:14:32 PM
in history?
black 3/26/20, 2:14:32 PM
in history?
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bravos 3/26/20, 2:49:29 PM
In reply to black
The plagues..
In reply to black
The plagues..
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black 3/26/20, 3:01:51 PM
In reply to bravos
Plagues are bacterial in nature.
In reply to bravos
Plagues are bacterial in nature.
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Courtesy 3/26/20, 3:02:45 PM
Hahahahahaha!!!
You're never too old to learn. And there I was thinking that the plaque was caused by a bacteria. Ah well...the garrulous lil' Johnny at it again.
lol lol lol
Hahahahahaha!!!
You're never too old to learn. And there I was thinking that the plaque was caused by a bacteria. Ah well...the garrulous lil' Johnny at it again.
lol lol lol
Link.
2020-04-03 19:42:18
In reply to Courtesy
You couldn't leave that stuff alone, could you?
2020-04-03 19:45:38
In reply to black
No. I just cannot convince myself that someone could be that stupid yet so garrulous.
2020-04-03 23:21:20
This thread was started march 13th at 47 deaths.
21 days later, the death count is at 7401....increased by a factor of 158.
This is now expected to continue to rise for another 27 days or more...
Can you imagine an increase by a factor of 158 from here?
2020-04-04 01:19:24
2020-04-04 01:41:53
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Thats Ayenmol's supplier..oh well
2020-04-04 03:42:08
Just spoke to a friend in New York today. How can you have physical/social distance when you have
four different families living in one house(basement, main floor, upstairs and attic). You are talking about
16 to 20 people going through one or two doors every day. Lots of the houses in Queens are like this.
The problem in the big apple is not an easy one.
2020-04-04 04:05:11
In reply to maj
Ayenmol got his same way Mr. Kraft did...cept Ayenmol did have to hire Fedex.
What make mr. Xi good friend who has so many good calls with his good friend not send a few C5's to collect his share?
2020-04-04 07:13:56
In reply to Ayenmol
Lighten up, just a joke. Cant be serious all the time.
2020-04-04 09:17:38
In reply to Ayenmol
The latest official death toll....
1) Italy 14,681
2) Spain 11,198
3) USA 7,403
4) France 6,507
5) UK 3,605
6) China 3,326
7) Iran 3,294
Germany 1,275
9) Netherlands 1,487
10) Belgium 1,143
2020-04-04 10:07:45
CNN)
Within weeks, Gov. Gavin Newsom issued the first statewide mandatory restrictionsin the United States, ordering California's nearly 40 million residents to stay home to help combat the outbreak.
California and New York -- the nation's hardest hit state -- had about the same number of coronavirus cases in the first week of March, according to Covid Tracking Project.
By Friday, California had 11,889 cases compared to nearly 10 times that in New York, or 102,985 cases. The Golden State has 264 deaths to New York's 2,935
LEADERSHIP.
2020-04-04 11:05:59
In reply to nitro
New York's population density is approx 100x denser than California's pop density. One would expect the number of cases to be higher in NY.
2020-04-04 11:11:04
In reply to Ayenmol
This thread was started march 13th at 47 deaths.
21 days later, the death count is at 7401....increased by a factor of 158.
This is now expected to continue to rise for another 27 days or more...
Can you imagine an increase by a factor of 158 from here?
21 days later, the death count is at 7401....increased by a factor of 158.
This is now expected to continue to rise for another 27 days or more...
Can you imagine an increase by a factor of 158 from here?
Time and improved processes will ultimately reduce the factor from 158 to a much lower number.
However, if we are to assume nothing much would be done to slow the rate, and we also assume approx. 25% daily compounded rate increase, I think we should expect the 7400 death count to rise to approx 27,000 dead (total) in 7 days time. And that is being conservative. So, expect the death rate to more than triple in 7 days time.
2020-04-04 11:13:35
Who is boss now? The US needs China's masks! The Roman Empire has weakened! Link Text
2020-04-04 11:21:40
In reply to problemjay
The US may have lost the battle but not the war. Both China and US mis-calculated and bungled their way through this ordeal. The US wil have to swallow pride and get the supplies needed. China will face the heat globally going forward.
Long term plan for America is to execute bringing those types of jobs back to our shores. Masks, ventilators, gowns, PPEs all should be made here in the US. Shift the focus from residential and commercial buildings to big factories and plants. Turn those decrepit, old and abandoned buildings into hospitals and factories for future needs. Too much is at stake.
2020-04-04 11:27:31
In reply to DukeStreet
years now your American analysts have been suggesting what you said but its easier said than done! Big american companies see more profit having their products made in China.
Secondly and most important, China has the biggest market in the world due to a continued growing middle class population. As their country become more wealthy their population size is huge and their middle class is huge so more European and American companies will want to invest and do work in China.
and we must not forget China's belt and road initiative. Because when that is completed is more pressure on American govt and more hate from the US of A
2020-04-04 11:35:33
In reply to problemjay
Big companies can still profit from having products made in China but big companies can still set up shop in America AND China. That is the plan! All America has to do is shift the budget to accommodate paying workers in the US. It's an essential move critical to the survival of America.
Even though China has the biggest market in the world, their biggest customer is the US. They need our big $$$ to remain highly profitable. The US ultimately doesn't need China. We can effectively set up overseas shop in other highly industrial countries at comparable costs and still generate substantial profits. Both China and the US know this. Just because you are the biggest doesn't necessarily mean you are the best option.
2020-04-04 12:57:24
In reply to DukeStreet
New York's population density is approx 100x denser than California's pop density. One would expect the number of cases to be higher in NY.
That is the main reason the Governor of NY should have acted with the fierce urgency of now and made similar moves as the Governor of Cali. Cuomo is just fill with talk, talk. Poor leader.
2020-04-04 13:10:57
In reply to nitro
Good for the Cali Governor.
“In the midst of this global pandemic, New Yorkers approve of Governor Cuomo’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic with near universal support. At least 85 percent of voters from every region approve of his handling of the crisis, as do 95 percent of Democrats, 87 percent of independents and even 70 percent of Republicans,” said Siena College pollster Steven Greenberg.
That is all that counts. Overall approval. Cuomo is doing a better job than expected.
Cuomo approval ratings soar
2020-04-04 13:35:18
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China begins lifting restrictions amid fears of a second coronavirus wave Link Text
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2020-04-04 16:50:07
In reply to DukeStreet
That is all that counts.
I wonder if the thousands of NY'ers grieving at this time due to his incompetence share that view.
2020-04-04 18:01:34
Over 3500 hundred people dead. Yes he is doing the best he could.
But not a good job on all accounts.
2020-04-04 22:02:57
Heroes of the Pandumbic
If these Trumpists keep at it, in time the attempt to find a scapegoat might work. Right now it seems the death count is causing the public to reassess Trump's leadership.
This is not a good sign for Trump. Typically in a crisis folks are prepared to cut the leader some slack.
Trump's approval rating declines
2020-04-05 00:23:24
No shame in Cuomo game. He is giving thanks! Link Text
2020-04-05 17:38:27
In reply to maj
No update today, maj?
Hope yuh not gone to church amid the lockdown.
2020-04-05 18:05:21
In reply to Drapsey
Updated.
2020-04-05 18:59:50
In reply to maj
Thanks, maj.
2020-04-06 07:26:44
In reply to Drapsey
The latest top ten official death toll....
1) Italy 15,887
2) Spain 12,641
3) USA 9,620
4) France 8,078
5) UK 4,934
6) Iran 3,603
7) China 3,331
Netherlands 1,776
9) Germany 1,584
10) Belgium 1,447
2020-04-06 13:04:08
In the meantime the Chinese say, "Damn the torpedoes!".
China: Tourist sites packed as country comes out of coronavirus lockdown
Large numbers of people flocked to popular tourists sites and major cities across China over the country's holiday weekend, despite warnings from health authorities that the risk posed by the coronavirus pandemic remains far from over.
Images from the Huangshan mountain park in Anhui province on Saturday April 4 showed thousands of people crammed together, many wearing face masks, eager to experience the great outdoors after months of travel restrictions and strict lockdown measures.
Images from the Huangshan mountain park in Anhui province on Saturday April 4 showed thousands of people crammed together, many wearing face masks, eager to experience the great outdoors after months of travel restrictions and strict lockdown measures.
Will the US become copy-cats and open things up for the upcoming Easter (holiday) weekend?
2020-04-06 13:12:08
Italy and the UK taking China help! China exports ventilators and masks Link Text
2020-04-06 14:10:40
In reply to mikesiva
That China number got to be lie.
2020-04-06 15:02:00
In reply to carl0002
Why?
2020-04-06 23:43:49
In reply to maj the vaj
Updated.
Ummm...no.
Time to add a thousand more corpses to the Dotard's mass grave.
2020-04-07 08:29:54
In reply to carl0002
Maybe. But a lot of countries are underestimating the true death toll. In the UK, for example, these are only the figures of those who died in hospital. Those who died at home, or in care homes, are not counted in these official figures.
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) Italy 16,523
2) Spain 13,341
3) USA 10.943
4) France 8,911
5) UK 5,373
6) Iran 3,739
7) China 3,331
Netherlands 1,867
9) Germany 1,810
10) Belgium 1,632
2020-04-07 12:29:26
USA currently stand at more than 11,000 deaths
2020-04-07 13:17:05
In reply to mikesiva
Maybe. But a lot of countries are underestimating the true death toll. In the UK, for example, these are only the figures of those who died in hospital. Those who died at home, or in care homes, are not counted in these official figures.
NY and NJ recently followed that trend. They no longer count in home deaths. Those account for 200-300 per day extra. That is why you see the sudden drop in deaths in NY and NJ. Result = elation in news of "deaths dropping", stock market rallying. Holy Week is preserved.
2020-04-07 14:41:40
In reply to DukeStreet
Have the dynamics for why America shifted most if not all of its manufacturing to Asian countries changed? If that has not changed then how are these jobs going to come back. These greedy American corporations did not want to pay workers decent wages and so they shifted the manufacturing to low wage economies. The American economy also moved from manufacturing base to an investment base where share price and shareholder returns became king. So none of that dynamic has changed and may have gotten worse, as you see people watching the stock Market as a driver of economic growth, not realizing it's only the top 1% benefiting from that model. So maximization of profits, pay no taxes, hide your money offshore and you think those jobs are coming back?
2020-04-07 17:07:03
Death count in USA tearing tail today. 1268 thus far. Will it catch Spain's by the end of today?
2020-04-07 18:56:54
Frankly I wish this thread would die.
I was started from a silly notion. I don't expect the lead poster to admit the foolishness of it all though. Afterall his 'leader' that he soo loves is the ultimate purveyor of gaslighting and lies.
2020-04-07 19:03:28
Over 12,000 killed now...and China must not pay for this?
Any American who support another Chinese product should be shot.
2020-04-07 20:03:08
In reply to maj
Just seeing this. Wow!
2020-04-07 20:04:51
March 13th , USA only has 41 deaths . Will not be as bad as Italy. ......
2020-04-07 20:07:00
USA - 12,102 deaths, 33 Million jobs lost
2020-04-07 20:14:13
In reply to carl0002
The main objective was to kill the greedy labor unions, thanks to the Ronald Reagan initiative. The opportunistic Corporate America then filled the greed vacuum.
2020-04-07 20:18:22
In reply to carl0002
So maximization of profits, pay no taxes, hide your money offshore, not pay your employees a decent wage and you think those jobs are coming back?
And they still looking for Taxpayer handout when shit hits the fan. The irony!
2020-04-07 20:23:06
In reply to nitro
That is the main reason the Governor of NY should have acted with the fierce urgency of now and made similar moves as the Governor of Cali. Cuomo is just fill with talk, talk. Poor leader.
You mean like your Dear Leader?
Fucking hypocrite.
2020-04-08 01:14:24
This thread needs an update
2020-04-08 01:20:05
Live update The World
Live update By Countries
Live update By State
2020-04-08 01:44:26
In reply to Dan_De_Dumbass
Not from you, simpleton.
2020-04-08 02:06:32
In reply to JahJah
Simpleton?
Please mr I see racism in everything
Did you pick your quotas of fruits today Mohfukoh
2020-04-08 03:36:59
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Your test came back
Go share the news with your Oakville papi. Sen he senning yu back.
2020-04-08 05:37:06
In reply to JahJah
That is a typical farm worker result!
Social distancing made u pass the Covid
Better oil up and pack your bicycle. Season is over.
Head home to help dem two fellas engineer that Jamaican ventilator.
You can add the green and gold paint. It will get your name on the patent.
Also don’t forget you sign that u had on the Ford Taurus: Dem ah grudge me
2020-04-08 10:24:25
In reply to DukeStreet and Jamstar
It does make you wonder what the real death toll is like, if all deaths from coronavirus are counted, in all countries.
The top ten official death toll....
1) Italy 17,127
2) Spain 14,555
3) USA 12,857
4) France 10,328
5) UK 6,159
6) Iran 4,003
7) China 3,333
Belgium 2,240
9) Netherlands 2,101
10) Germany 2,016
2020-04-08 20:56:13
In reply to mikesiva
France less cases than the US??
Common sense tells me “France now must be lying!!!”
2020-04-08 21:18:26
In reply to Halliwell
7) China 3,333
Considering the population that is the one lying.
Stop shielding for no apparent reason.
2020-04-08 22:27:47
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Wuhan, China life is almost back to normal Link Text
China life and economy returning back to normal while New York, America on continued lockdown and economy in shambles
2020-04-09 02:34:07
China, is hiding the virus. To hell with people get out there and make that money.
China is willing to have a million or so die.
Normal for authoritarians yes.
Your life means nothing for the greater "good".
2020-04-09 02:40:36
In reply to maj
China, is hiding the virus.
Why would China do that? And, if they did, wouldn't that mean that they have it under control? You cannot hide something that you do not control, can you?
Anyway, the US deaths are staggering. Worse, there seems to be very little the rest of us could do to help, except to remain sheltered in place to not make this even worse.
Thanks for the regular updates, and my heart goes out to all the victims, and especially to everyone engaged in fighting this directly or indirectly.
2020-04-09 02:56:45
In reply to Norm
The CCP controls all, they want to get their economy going again. At this point while the world sleeps they are the only ones producing.
The people in Chima have no idea what's going on, media restriction and decades of propaganda have then willing to go along with the lie. They dont have to control the virus just information.
Like I said if they lost a million lives it wouldn't bother the CCP one bit.
Yes the deaths are staggering, this is virus seems to have intelligence. I'm not one who believes in conspiracy theories but I believe this virus has been bioengineered. And IMO, this was the Christmas present NK promised.
2020-04-09 03:04:12
In reply to maj
this was the Christmas present NK promised.
Not out of the question, but why blame China? And NK would not risk the combined anger of China, Europe, USA, etc, but the NK leader is a serious nutcase.
Do we really help by diverting attention to politics in this matter?
2020-04-09 03:10:20
In reply to Norm
China and NK are allies.
NK could careless about the Europe and the USA.
Lol, do you post here, every topic comes down to politics and race.
Latest example. DT has a financial stake in Hydroxycloroquine..what a joke. Anyone that has a 401k, 403b or trades in stocks has pharmaceuticals in their portfolio.
2020-04-09 08:10:54
The top ten latest death tolls make for grim reading....
1) Italy 17,669
2) USA 14,797
3) Spain 14,792
4) France 10,869
5) UK 7,097
6) Iran 3,993
7) China 3,335
Germany 2,349
9) Netherlands 2,248
10) Belgium 2,240
2020-04-09 09:51:41
In reply to mikesiva
Italy or Spain has 17k ?
2020-04-09 10:39:54
In reply to mikesiva
Take the China figure with a few tons of salt.
2020-04-09 12:55:52
In reply to mikesiva
2 days in a row, the US "new deaths" number "magically" jussssst below 2000. LOL. Also, France had 541 new deaths (3,881 new cases) reported on Wed but on Tues had 1417 new deaths (11,059 new cases). The numbers are all over the place. No real consistency or pattern.
2020-04-09 13:18:31
In reply to DukeStreet
Weekend lag is a well accepted concept in epidemiology
The data is trended so nuances like that are absorbed
You may report a hospital death in one working day, but not a home death.
2020-04-09 13:20:25
Re: China
Gone back to work but they probably dying, the lot of them.
International media complicit in hiding deaths, showing lively Wuhan when they actually all deceased
2020-04-09 13:47:26
In reply to Halliwell
International media complicit in hiding deaths
Are you making up stuff, just to discredit the "perceived enemy"?
2020-04-09 14:17:19
You have to wonder if some people really do have a brain and using it in this current climate of a pandemic...and you have to wonder
why so many are dying so fast in USA.
Just now I went to pick up my wife from an overnite care giving stint with a Jewish lady.
My wife was mad as heel...WHY ?
A niece from New Jersey is visiting her aunt(Wife's sister) in Philly and they want to come and visit.////
The niece has never visited this home of over 30 years and this is the time she wants to visit.%%%$$##
Never seen the wife so mad except with me. She went ballistic as she tore into her sister on the cell phone.
New Jersey has lock down, for heavens sake and vehicles entering and leaving Philly are being checked by the plates and same if
a PA vehicle enters NJ which means 14 days quarantine.
You really have to wonder..
USA deaths are nearing 15K and New Jersey is second most to NY State.. and Philly is being looked at as a mounting problem now.
And to think I am in the vulnerable age group.
God help us.
2020-04-09 16:27:19
In reply to Norm
“Are YOU incapable of recognising sarcasm when it’s mashing your toe”
2020-04-09 22:52:00
USA - 16,294 deaths, More than 37 million jobs lost
2020-04-09 23:14:54
In reply to TriniStar
The world yard was previously in terrible shape. The US will soon reverse those numbers.
Speaking in Geneva via videoconference on Tuesday, ILO Director-General Guy Ryder noted that at the start of the year – before COVID-19 spread worldwide - global unemployment already stood at around 190 million.
According to the agency, the latest dire assessment reflects the full or partial lockdown measures affecting almost 2.7 billion workers
Link Text
2020-04-10 09:37:42
In reply to problemjay
Sorry, wrong way round...corrected.
The latest top ten official death toll....
1) Italy 18,279
2) USA 16,697
3) Spain 15,843
4) France 12,210
5) UK 7,978
6) Iran 4,110
7) China 3,336
Belgium 3,019
9) Germany 2,607
10) Netherlands 2,396
2020-04-10 10:38:22
In reply to Halliwell
YOU incapable of recognising sarcasm
I do, more often than I should, but that is the risk with sarcasm. If I misunderstood you then I apologize.
It is shocking and disgusting to see so much people unable to move beyond attempting to assign blame for this pandemic.
2020-04-10 10:42:11
Italy and France has slowed down, but the US and Spain hurtle along like runaway bulls. The US seems determined to be world leader in this matter too.
2020-04-10 11:01:38
In reply to Norm
is this part of #MAGA ?
2020-04-10 11:06:49
In reply to doosra
is this part of #MAGA?
It will be impossible to separate the two!
Meanwhile, Sweden is courting national disaster by not locking down. Amazing and uncharacteristic recklessness.
2020-04-10 11:41:40
In reply to Norm
No worries bro
I know Scandinavia usually get tings right but I agree this is so dangerous by Sweden. The population have no circulating antibodies so there is a first wave to come for every country.
2020-04-10 14:14:55
In reply to maj
how do you reverse deaths?
2020-04-10 15:01:27
In reply to ray
So you don't think he was talking about jobs?
2020-04-10 15:40:52
In reply to ray
Jobs, genius!!
2020-04-10 15:55:56
In reply to maj
is the number of deaths trending with your prediction?
2020-04-10 22:43:29
Some good commentary. US vs China what will be their relationship after this COVID-19 pandemic? Link Text
2020-04-10 23:38:46
In reply to maj
2K in a day cracked or since I should I say 2Gs since all unnu Yanks understand is $$$?
2020-04-11 00:42:58
In reply to JahJah
And remember, Cuomo seh they stopped counting all dem dead people who deading out in-home, in apartments, etc, Apparently 200+ per day since a week ago. Imagine when the cops and paramedics are called next week or next month when the stench starts to hit the air.
2020-04-11 01:34:29
In reply to JahJah
Nah sweat it hater. America will be stronger and better after this. Doan worry your American friends will still stop at the border and fulfill your likka requests
2020-04-11 02:47:41
In reply to maj
I've got no idea what you're talking about.
Anyway, I need USA clean up the place, so borders can open back up. But I'm also ok if only Europe opens up.
2020-04-11 03:06:12
In reply to JahJah
I've got no idea what you're talking about
2020-04-11 07:30:12
In reply to Halliwell
Interesting response by China to coronavirus
How many of our countries took a similar approach?
2020-04-11 07:44:49
The latest top ten official death toll....
1) Italy 18,849
2) USA 18,747
3) Spain 16,081
4) France 13,197
5) UK 8,958
6) Iran 4,232
7) China 3,339
Belgium 3,019
9) Germany 2,736
10) Netherlands 2,511
2020-04-11 08:07:13
In reply to mikesiva
New surge coming. China is only fooling itself.
2020-04-11 08:18:44
In reply to maj
China is only fooling itself.
We will see if this too is true. Of course, we always keep the one-size-fits-all answer in our back pockets, that China lies.
Meanwhile, the US moves to the top spot in the number of deaths, and we have not started flattening the curve yet! No problem. Let's blame the Dems!
2020-04-11 08:56:58
In reply to Norm
No let's blame China for engineering this killer virus.
2020-04-11 09:54:16
In reply to mikesiva
Interesting response by China to coronavirus
How many of our countries took a similar approach?
How many of our countries took a similar approach?
Much more serious than America
2020-04-11 09:58:46
In reply to maj
let's blame China for engineering this killer virus.
It was North Korea yesterday.
2020-04-11 11:35:56
In reply to Norm
It was North Korea yesterday.
Even Iran a couple of months ago.
2020-04-11 12:07:27
In reply to maj
I sorry fuh you.
2020-04-11 12:50:56
why you guys bother with this dickhead maj?
2020-04-11 13:20:48
How did 15 to 0 work out
Herd immunity ?
2020-04-11 14:42:16
USA - 18,305 deaths, More than 38 Million jobs lost!
2020-04-11 14:52:29
In reply to doosra
what have you heard about immunity?
2020-04-11 14:55:15
In reply to maj
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
You need a new crystal ball.
2020-04-11 15:01:12
^^ did maj really say the US has a better health care system than those countries? ..the US heath care is shit compared to other developed nations
This is the common assumption by most Americans who have no idea what goes on outside their country. They are conditioned to just accept "everything in the US is better"..this pandemic is exposing all their structural and systematic shortcomings in their country
2020-04-11 15:13:39
In reply to problemjay
Yep, check page 1 of this hole he dug for himself.
2020-04-11 17:15:06
Yeah I'll take my licks on this. But in a population of 325m we are doing better than most.
NK, China, Iran are the true architects of this disaster. You haters will easily believe conspiracy theories like Trump let this go because he wanted to sell HCLQ to make money.
You fools scream look DT kill 20k but refuse to scream look Cuomo and Diblaso killer almost half of those 20k.
Now the haters calling SG Adams an Uncle Tom because he asked blacks and brown to take better care of themselves.
Every thing about America is bad and racist, yet millions of immigrants of color are granted permission to migrate here. Check other bastions of prosperity how do they stack up. You haters should be screaming from the highest mountain go to Canada, run to Europe , Australia or wherever. But oh right they wont take your tired or poor.
China hid the breakout, the WHO took Chinas word and spread misinformation. Most governments underestimated the breakout based on the WHO. Information about the virus is limited, strains and severity. We are learning about it as we go.
2020-04-11 17:49:37
In reply to maj
Now the haters calling SG Adams an Uncle Tom because he asked blacks and brown to take better care of themselves.
Every thing about America is bad and racist, yet millions of immigrants of color are granted permission to migrate here. Check other bastions of prosperity how do they stack up. You haters should be screaming from the highest mountain go to Canada, run to Europe , Australia or wherever. But oh right they wont take your tired or poor.
Every thing about America is bad and racist, yet millions of immigrants of color are granted permission to migrate here. Check other bastions of prosperity how do they stack up. You haters should be screaming from the highest mountain go to Canada, run to Europe , Australia or wherever. But oh right they wont take your tired or poor.
Word.
2020-04-11 18:00:18
I wonder when this particular poster started this thread he envisioned the kind of numbers he is now forced to post
2020-04-11 18:11:00
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Trump lied. Americans died. got that from an article. it sounds good
2020-04-11 18:16:58
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Ah yes I said flu like numbers.
2020-04-11 18:22:34
In reply to nitro
Everytime an international flight lands it leaves with less.
When the converse happens I'll be wrong.
2020-04-11 18:33:06
In reply to maj
China hid the breakout, the WHO took Chinas word and spread misinformation. Most governments underestimated the breakout based on the WHO. Information about the virus is limited, strains and severity. We are learning about it as we go.
Stop blaming others for Trump's ineptitude.
Even with everything you said here he still had a chance to redeem himself by showing leadership.
Instead he is letting the chips fall where they may and along the way try to take credit for everything that seems to be going well and blaming others like Obama for things that do not seem to be going in the direction that he would like or criticisms of same.
2020-04-11 18:38:30
In reply to embsallie
Yes he underestimated the virus.
Letting the chips fall where they may he is not doing.
2020-04-11 18:43:08
In reply to maj
There is a big difference between underestimated and ignored.
2020-04-11 19:24:16
In reply to embsallie
He did both.
2020-04-11 19:34:20
black this thread got nuff legs!
2020-04-11 19:45:09
In reply to embsallie
So what was the China ban.
He mentioned it in his State of the Union. Which Pelosi ripped up.
Nobody knew what this virus was.
China did not let our CDC officials into China ro research.
Did Cuomo and Diblaso ignore or underestimate the virus?
2020-04-11 19:56:32
In reply to maj
Who the France you think the CDC is...stewwwps
The same CDC that responsible for 2k deaths a day?!
The Chinese allowed all good scientists in to learn or observe
2020-04-11 20:01:03
In reply to sudden
A hear seh some people think it's a good idea
2020-04-12 08:31:53
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 20,580
2) Italy 19,468
3) Spain 16,606
4) France 13,832
5) UK 9,875
6) Iran 4,357
7) belgium 3,346
China 3,339
9) Germany 2,871
10) Netherlands 2,643
2020-04-12 11:50:15
In reply to mikesiva
The West on Trial
2020-04-12 13:40:37
In reply to doosra
An asterik for China, please.
The smiley face is apt though.
Germany not doing three bad in the context. They test rigorously and for their 83 million population, that is a low death count. Again, asterik up China name!
India has been very impressive thus far to not be in that top ten...unless they are waiting to burst at the seams.
2020-04-13 00:58:46
Alarming Data Puts U.S. Coronavirus Response into Perspective Link Text
2020-04-13 02:17:29
22,071. Where's maj?
New York 9,385
New Jersey 2,350
2020-04-13 02:18:24
In reply to Norm
22,071
with more than 38 million jobs lost
2020-04-13 02:20:49
In reply to TriniStar
with more than 38 million jobs lost
And 38 million more now without medical insurance.
"We are doing a byoootiful job, people."
2020-04-13 02:30:19
In reply to Norm
Shameful! Most of the Guyanese nationals are from Berbicians, wonder why? My bet is their greed!
2020-04-13 02:34:41
In reply to WestDem
Most of the Guyanese nationals are from Berbicians, wonder why? My bet is their greed!
Me grow up in Berbice too, sah! Only some ah abi ... only some ah abi ...
2020-04-13 02:50:15
In reply to Norm
Sad but true, dem ah pull dem stunts here by not following protocol and letting idiots and drunks through the back doors for a couple hundred dollars!
2020-04-13 02:56:57
In reply to WestDem
dem ah pull dem stunts here by not following protocol and letting idiots and drunks through the back doors for a couple hundred dollars!
That's Guyanese for you. No wonder they can't finish their elections. One bunch trying to choke-n-rob the whole country and the other bunch put up a big fat swindler for president.
2020-04-13 12:52:34
first president to sign off on disaster for all 50 states or how many ever there is?
well donnie
2020-04-14 09:12:43
In reply to Norm
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 23,644
2) Italy 20,465
3) Spain 17,756
4) France 14,967
5) UK 11,329
6) Iran 4,585
7) Belgium 3,903
China 3,341
9) Germany 3,194
10) Netherlands 2,823
2020-04-14 09:29:44
In reply to mikesiva
The death rate seems to have slowed a tiny bit in the USA and Italy, but quite a bit in Spain and France. The UK is rocketing along and Iran has been steady. Germany is also doing worse now than before.
Russia has seen a sudden sharp rise, as the country finally starts to warm up. It is troubling that areas in Russia along the border with China have been sources of re-infection in China.
India is managing its lockdown really well, thankfully.
Brazil is also seeing a steady rise, including in the Amazon jungle, where followers of the ultra-right government have been clear cutting Amazon forest at a rate 50 percent above normal. The virus has been a serious issue in the State of Roraima, Guyana's southern neighbor, from which thousands of Brazilians travel back and forth.
2020-04-14 11:04:03
In reply to Norm
Brazil President took a gamble and it may be the wrong choice Link Text
On Thursday, Bolsonaro told reporters in the capital, Brasilia, that he feels Brazilians’ natural immunity will protect the nation
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2020-04-14 11:25:20
In reply to problemjay
Brazilians’ natural immunity will protect the nation
Heaven help the Brazilians.
2020-04-14 19:35:03
Looks like USA heading for another 2000+ day after a bit of respite with the few 1500-1700 days.
After bubbling under 100 with a couple of 80s and 60s, Canada breaks 100 with 118 so far today. They did say they expected the peak this week.
2020-04-15 00:31:43
Over 26K deaths now in the USA.
The African countries, India, Pakistan, Lanka and Bangla. Getting it right, or doh peak yet?
2020-04-15 01:40:50
In reply to JahJah
Well many African countries have Ebola protocols they can use. Then there is the lack of testing capability, India seems to be hiding some stuff. So it's probably a little of everything you mentioned- getting right and not peaked yet.
The US hasn't been doing a lot of government isolation, quarantine and contact tracing. Not sure if that has to do with the Constitution, the culture,size or the federal nature of it all.
Some developing countries such as in the English speaking Caribbean and Cuba are doing government quarantine/isolation and contact tracing. Without contact tracing the spread continues to expand.
2020-04-15 10:32:24
In reply to JahJah
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 26,064
2) Italy 21,067
3) Spain 18,255
4) France 15,729
5) UK 12,107
6) Iran 4,683
7) Belgium 4,157
Germany 3,495
9) China 3,342
10) Netherlands 2,945
The US and the UK have really made a mess of handling this pandemic....
UK deaths are just hospital deaths. France and Spain are hospital and community deaths.
2020-04-15 15:28:56
In reply to mikesiva
US we love being #1 in everything
2020-04-16 02:01:45
USA 28,529. Opening the gap on the rest.
Brazil and Sweden, who both chose to ignore mandatory lock-down, accelerating now. Somebody had to provide proof that the USA was foolish to delay the lock-down.
France surging again, after a bit of a lull. The UK and Iran continue to gallop along.
2020-04-16 04:15:22
In reply to Norm
USA healthcare system and its capability to respond to a pandemic has been exposed as weak!
2020-04-16 05:50:51
In reply to TriniStar
USA healthcare system
No such thing. Health care is mostly private, with the counties providing for those who cannot afford private hospitals. The private health care system has huge problems, such as cost and being able to refuse health care to anyone, except in life or death emergencies.
After this virus crisis is over there will be a huge fight between hospitals and governments, between hospitals and patients, and between hospitals and medical supplies companies, over reimbursement for treating covid-19 patients.
The US government will write another huge check to bail out yet another capitalist institution, using taxpayers' money and behaving as if it is theirs.
2020-04-16 08:08:42
In reply to Lady_Lava
The latest top ten official death toll....
1) USA 28,554
2) Italy 21,645
3) Spain 18,812
4) France 17,167
5) UK 12,868
6) Iran 4,777
7) Belgium 4,440
Germany 3,804
9) China 3,342
10) Netherlands 3,134
2020-04-16 09:35:57
In reply to Norm
Dude how about if I said the US hospital health system instead of heathcare. Sure you got the gist of what I meant.
The failure in the so called superpower is obvious to the world
2020-04-16 14:17:51
In reply to TriniStar
the US hospital health system
Call it whatever you want. The point is that there is no US healthcare system. The US does not fund hospitals and cannot tell them how to run their business. Thus, stating in any form that the US healthcare system is failing cannot be true. The US government would respond by stating that it does not run the hospitals.
The failure in the so called superpower is obvious to the world
You know the saying about counting chickens, I take it.
2020-04-16 14:22:32
America health system in shambles especially in New York. Several videos and articles you could find online where nurses and doctors stating "I thought this was a first world country"
The corona virus exposed many deficiencies
2020-04-16 16:03:01
Heard on the news yesterday that immigrants and blacks make up the majority of deaths in New York.
Is this fake news?
2020-04-16 16:15:03
In reply to Ridge
don't know bout immigrants but last figures show blacks are making up 30% of the deaths
2020-04-16 16:15:37
In reply to Ridge
the communities in NYC that have the most cases are immigrant communities, I know of 3 people dead in NY that are from the same town I originated from in Jamaica.
2020-04-16 18:06:08
Is today the day that Canada crosses 200 in one day. 181 so far. Recently did 2 days of 100+
Daily cases have risen a little too.
I guess they correctly predicted the peak, unless next week will be worse.
2020-04-16 18:33:22
Healthcare is not a commodity and the American experiment with HC under a for profit model is failing and has failed for a long time. Even Obamacare is not really healthcare per se as its merely provision of health insurance which in turn buys you a level of care. There is still a profit motive at it roots where insurance companies look at you with suspicion as a walking talking revenue model to be disposed of if the costs outweigh the premiums. And the Repugnants did not help in the crafting of this legislation.
2020-04-16 20:29:11
In reply to carl0002
America in pain and China out enjoying the beach
Aint that a bitch
2020-04-17 09:11:26
In reply to JahJah
I wish the UK had Canadian numbers....
The latest top ten official death toll:
1) USA 34,641
2) Italy 22,170
3) Spain 19,315
4) France 17,920
5) UK 13,729
6) Iran 4,869
7) Belgium 4,857
China 4,632
9) Germany 4,052
10) Netherlands 3,315
2020-04-17 12:16:44
USA- More than 32,000 deaths, More than 40 Million Jobs lost!
2020-04-17 12:38:08
Steve Schmidt: “He ran on a promise of ‘making America great again.' What we see is death, economic collapse, and suffering on an immense scale that nobody in the country could have imagined seeing in our lifetime 60 days ago.”
2020-04-17 15:17:28
Like the driver of the thread fell asleep because the death toll number given on the thread title is way off
2020-04-17 15:19:17
In reply to Runs
So it is Trump's fault we have this global pandemic?
The global economy has been ruined by this Chinese virus.
Some on here cursed Trump when he banned Chinese from entering the USA yet are now gloating at the death of Americans, mostly blacks may i add.
Yet they call Trump an evil man.
2020-04-17 16:03:20
In reply to Ridge
Heard on the news yesterday that immigrants and blacks make up the majority of deaths in New York.
Is this fake news?
Is this fake news?
Probably not.
I know some Guyanese have been taking cynical pride in defying lock-down orders, by opening rumshops, throwing parties, etc. Down the street from me, about 2 houses away, the Mexican family (one of two on the block) threw a huge party about a week ago. Every other family has been faithfully complying with the lock-down.
If I had to bet, I would agree that plenty of immigrants have been dying of covid-19, and many of them brought it on themselves and their families. Good governance has not been a forte of many immigrants.
2020-04-17 16:16:51
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American regime is exporting the virus! Link Text
The country’s health minister says deportation flights are driving up coronavirus cases after a flight had 75% test positive
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2020-04-18 08:15:37
In reply to TriniStar
The latest top ten official death toll....
1) USA 37,175
2) Italy 22,745
3) Spain 20,002
4) France 18,681
5) UK 14,576
6) Belgium 5,163
7) Iran 4,958
China 4,632
9) Germany 4,352
10) Netherlands 3,459
2020-04-18 10:31:55
In reply to nitro
So it is Trump's fault we have this global pandemic?
he said 15 down to 0
remember?
clear the way merica comin back
2020-04-18 11:07:40
Where is maj, anyway?
2020-04-18 11:37:56
In reply to Drapsey
Maj has the thread on auto pilot. Like those Tesla trucks
2020-04-18 11:41:08
In reply to Drapsey
Instead of debating lockdowns this should be America's biggest concern.
30 million Americans have no health Insurance
120 million Americans have a large deductible
20 million Illegals with no insurance
Think: How many of the above will seek medical tests?
So out of a population of 350 Million Americans, we have a question about 170 million That will not be tested and carrying the virus.
No vaccine nor cure in sight for at least a year.Some patients who have recovered are now testing positive .
When Scientist speak of the rebound this is what concerns them.This is when the killing fields will occur.
2020-04-18 14:14:57
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Maj has the thread on auto pilot.
I suspect maj started the thread strongly believing in "victory" after about 3,000 or so. With no end in sight, he did the only honorable thing any diehard, but fairly smart, Trumpite would do ...!
2020-04-18 14:17:16
In reply to nitro
So it is Trump's fault we have this global pandemic?
You still believe the flu under Obama was more lethal?
2020-04-18 15:25:17
In reply to camos
No.
What about this drug Remdesiver. Seems to work.
2020-04-18 17:05:11
If you live in the States this is a convenient tool. Just punch in your zip code Link Text
2020-04-18 17:15:34
Serious thing...
maj was last seen on this (his) thread on 4/11. That's a whole week ago.
Come in maj and let us know you're ok.
2020-04-19 00:14:05
In reply to Drapsey
I agree man. I asked someone the question today. I'm beginning to get a bit concerned.
This shit has been hitting close to home.
2020-04-19 00:19:33
In reply to Drapsey
Did he mention his wife being in healthcare or working in a hospital?
2020-04-19 00:21:55
In reply to JahJah
think so!
2020-04-19 09:55:26
In reply to doosra
The latest top ten official death toll....
1) USA 39,015
2) Italy 23,227
3) Spain 20,639
4) France 19,323
5) UK 15,464
Daylight
More daylight
6) Belgium 5,453
7) Iran 5,031
China 4,632
9) Germany 4,538
10) Netherlands 3,601
2020-04-19 13:02:16
Is his name Raj
2020-04-19 13:25:50
In reply to mikesiva
everybody soon get lap
mek trump boast about the numbers for reelection
they can spin that too trust me
2020-04-19 14:25:00
I see pics of Florida beach packed with people! these people could not wait for the beach to reopen
2020-04-19 15:17:09
In reply to Lady_Lava
liberty
which amendment was that
2020-04-19 17:02:19
In reply to doosra
Liberty, life and the persuit of happiness?
Thomas Jefferson took the phrase "pursuit of happiness" from Locke and incorporated it into his famous statement of a peoples' inalienable right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" in the Declaration of Independence.
Not an amendment
2020-04-19 19:39:52
742,442 cases. 40,585 deaths
In the US of A
Death doubled since update on title
Maj. Come in
2020-04-20 00:35:21
no word on maj?
2020-04-20 00:40:29
In reply to VIX
A fella named Raj from Ny that fits his description. Do you know his last name? I have this person last name. Who knows his last name? need it me to confirm.
2020-04-20 00:44:13
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Raj Vaj? or Ras Hole
2020-04-20 00:51:53
In reply to doosra
But seriously tho...I have a link but need to confirm before posting
2020-04-20 07:59:24
In reply to doosra
The US well ahead of the rest, but the UK want to keep up with that "special relationship"....
The latest top ten official death toll:
1) USA 40,565
2) Italy 23,660
3) Spain 20,453
4) France 19,718
5) UK 16.060
6) Belgium 5,683
7) Iran 5,118
Germany 4,642
9) China 4,632
10) Netherlands 3,684
2020-04-20 12:22:04
Looks like the pace has slowed a bit overall, except for a few places. Brazil is quite worrying for Guyanese, as they start to accelerate upward. England just loves to follow the US.
Sweden continues to be stable. Very, very interesting.
2020-04-20 17:06:42
In reply to Lady_Lava
I see pics of Florida beach packed with people! these people could not wait for the beach to reopen
One good thing about the Florida Beach reopening...
Westmoreland County homicide suspect arrested on Florida beach
A man wanted in connection with a fatal shooting that happened in Arnold, Westmoreland County, on Jan. 16, was arrested by Jacksonville Beach police in Florida on Sunday morning.
Jacksonville Beach police arrested 30-year-old Mario Matthew Gatti while they were patrolling the beach, assuring everyone was adhering to the current beach rules. Gatti was wanted for criminal homicide.
Jacksonville Beach police arrested 30-year-old Mario Matthew Gatti while they were patrolling the beach, assuring everyone was adhering to the current beach rules. Gatti was wanted for criminal homicide.
2020-04-20 17:55:05
In reply to Drapsey
Serious thing...
maj was last seen on this (his) thread on 4/11. That's a whole week ago.
Come in maj and let us know you're ok.
maj was last seen on this (his) thread on 4/11. That's a whole week ago.
Come in maj and let us know you're ok.
We all had an idea how this thread was going to play out and no one (with the exception of the MAGA idiot who started it) thought it would end well.
I suspect he’s perfectly fine and healthy but too cowardly to keep throwing egg on his own face by updating the daily death count.
2020-04-20 17:58:13
In reply to SnoopDog
Man that kinda vitriol is not tolerated anymore.
but yeah only the hearing impaired couldnt see where this was headed
2020-04-20 18:06:51
In reply to sudden
Vitriol?
Y’all forget already when maj the vaj laughed at all those those refugee children at the border who were separated from their parents and herded into cages by the Dotard?
Fact is, this thread is a perfect illustration of the spectacular ignorance and stupidity of people who support the Dotard, advocate for American exceptionalism, and who condone all the barbaric and dastardly policies by their tv reality Dotard president.
2020-04-20 18:20:21
well yes ah had to post this and here is the best thread for it Link Text
2020-04-20 23:55:55
In reply to Norm
Looks like the pace has slowed a bit overall, except for a few places. Brazil is quite worrying for Guyanese, as they start to accelerate upward. England just loves to follow the US.
Sweden continues to be stable. Very, very interesting.
Sweden continues to be stable. Very, very interesting.
Sweden nearly 15,000 cases, 10% deaths. The infection curve is sharply upward after a slow start. Are you looking at old data or referencing NineTenJack without checking?
2020-04-21 00:31:21
In reply to Headley
a 10% death rate represents massive undercounting , the disease is more widespread than reported.
2020-04-21 00:35:32
In reply to camos
a 10% death rate represents massive undercounting , the disease is more widespread than reported.
Are you suggesting they are deliberately under-counting to justify their no lock-down status?
2020-04-21 00:54:36
In reply to DukeStreet
not necessarily ,just that there are more cases.
2020-04-21 01:02:33
In reply to camos
a 10% death rate represents massive undercounting , the disease is more widespread than reported.
Trying to understand this logic. Expound.
2020-04-21 01:05:13
In reply to DukeStreet
The following countries have well over 10%. France, Italy, Spain, Belgium, UK, Netherlands. All locked tight. Don't see the correlation between 10% death rate and under counting.
Ontario's infection curve is going up sharply because of the care homes. They are being emptied out.
2020-04-21 01:06:22
In reply to Headley
The infection curve is sharply upward after a slow start.
Those apparently are via care homes, just like in ON, Canada.
2020-04-21 01:06:29
In reply to JahJah
Trying to understand this logic. Expound.
Fatality rates typically divide cov19 deaths by number of confirmed cases (denominator). If number of actual infections is waaay more than confirmed..then the denominator increases hence much smaller fatality rate.
2020-04-21 01:07:37
In reply to JahJah
a country with the resources of Sweden should be experiencing better outcomes, they are undercounting because not enough tests are conducted which also means they discovering affected people too late.
2020-04-21 01:10:29
In reply to camos
It was mentioned that, per capita, Sweden has the 2nd lowest critical care beds in the EU.
2020-04-21 01:12:54
In reply to Cheeks
Yes, sir but that is not what I was getting at. How can the death rate automatically mean that there are more cases than being counted? I don't think it's that simple.
In the case of the old people they may not be catching that is the plausible answer. Ontario only just started finding out about all the infected people in care homes, as well as they care givers.
Expect a lot more death in Ontario...the lion share of which will be in the care homes. Already a few emptying out to the count of 25-30+ each and more to come.
2020-04-21 01:13:56
In reply to JahJah
that may explains a lot! not much sense finding the sick if there is no where to house them.
2020-04-21 01:15:51
In reply to JahJah
How can the death rate automatically mean that there are more cases than being counted? I don't think it's that simple.
look on comparable countries, Danes and Germans for example.
2020-04-21 01:19:18
In reply to camos
Depends on who you are testing. Ontario discovered late in the game that they should have been mainly counting the care homes. Sweden looks like they haven't started yet. It was already admitted that the elderly are not getting much attention.
Belgium testing at twice the rate, but look what's going on there (15% death rate). Italy at 3 times the rate with the testing.
France and Sweden on par with the testing. I don't know about there, but it's not so simple to just get a test here.
Not sure how long before people in Canada get restless about being locked away when it's mostly the elderly and those in care homes 'they see' dying.
2020-04-21 01:24:04
In reply to JahJah
It was already admitted that the elderly are not getting much attention
.
talk with people working in hospitals here and they tell you the same,one nurse said she started crying when an administrator told the staff they are going to be concentrating on people below 62 and she is 65.
2020-04-21 01:31:24
In reply to camos
Well, here in Ontario all dem talking about is saving the elderly and saving those in care homes after the horse done bolt. It's like every care home here has an at least 80% infection rate among staff and residents.
And while they do this, every one must stay home.
2020-04-21 01:34:57
In reply to JahJah
that is pretty much the picture in NY/NJ area,one day last week police said they received a tip and when they reach the nursing home 17 bodies were stored in a facility built for 4!
2020-04-21 03:54:44
In reply to JahJah
Ooops. Sorry I jump een di dance without following the topic closely.
2020-04-21 09:07:48
In reply to JahJah
That was very informative. Thanks for that.
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 42,518
2) Italy 24,114
3) Spain 20,852
4) France 20,265
5) UK 16,509
6) Belgium 5,828
7) Iran 5,209
Germany 4,862
9) China 4,632
10) Netherlands 3,751
2020-04-21 09:33:37
In reply to Headley
Are you looking at old data or referencing NineTenJack without checking?
I am definitely not checking the Sweden numbers very carefully, but will try to do so from now.
2020-04-21 12:10:10
In reply to Cheeks
Ooops. Sorry I jump een di dance without following the topic closely.
What you have described is what is called a crude rate. Their value is sometims limited, particularly when comparing two populations with different age structures. In this situation it is essential to adjust the data to take into account those differences. This is referred to as age standardisation which can yield vastly differet results. Age Standardisation can further be broken down into direct and indirect standaristion.
Indirect requires a calculation of Standard Mortality Rate (SMR).
Direct requires a calculation of age specific death rates.
How I miss poster Josh in these tmes. We would have had a lenghty discussion on methodology here
Josh where are you?
The point being made is, the crude death rate as you have highlighetd above in relation to this current disease (Covid-19) is not reliable as it affects different age cohorts vastly differently. And this is important in policy formulation.
The accuracy of these calculations are of course affected by diagnostic accurcy, incomplete identification of cases and the recording system. All of these have been alluded to in some way in this thread.
2020-04-21 12:27:41
In reply to Courtesy
Cool. Good stuff.
The point being made is, the crude death rate as you have highlighetd above in relation to this current disease (Covid-19) is not reliable as it affects different age cohorts vastly differently.
Gotcha.
Incidentally...we still haven't heard from Maj in a bit. I wish his buddy BeatDball would find out about him and apprise the MB instead of incessantly inhaling DJT's farts and calling it perfume.
2020-04-21 12:30:38
In reply to Cheeks
Thanks mate. I hope nothing untoward has happened to Maj. And on this point, I recall poster Nick2020 mentioning something about karma to which Maj responded that karma does not recognize an MB or words to that effect. I hope Maj is right in this regard.
If he is as off as this thread is, then, I can only wish him well.
2020-04-21 13:22:22
America cases continue to increase by the hundreds everyday and thousands of Americans taking to the streets demanding their Governors to open up their states.
American comedy on show
2020-04-21 14:22:58
In reply to Courtesy
Larr Pullo is here.
Emir and Maj still missing?
2020-04-21 14:31:41
In reply to Cheeks
Yep. Larr just posted an interesting article on the usefullness of the pulse oximeter in "silent hypoxia."
Emir has serious predisposing illnesses which should necessitate him being wrapped in a bubble.
Maj, well I hope his ignoance did not cloud his judgement and led him to believe that "Covid-19 is a hoax."
2020-04-21 14:36:49
In reply to Courtesy
Emir has about 10 handles. to be sure one of them is still posting
Maj will make a dramatic entry as soon as a good Trumpian conspiracy theory comes his way
2020-04-21 14:39:48
In reply to sudden
Emir has about 10 handles. to be sure one of them is still posting
Maj will make a dramatic entry as soon as a good Trumpian conspiracy theory comes his way
Maj will make a dramatic entry as soon as a good Trumpian conspiracy theory comes his way
During this pandemic it's not a bad thing that Emir has plenty of handles to lean on. As far as Mag and the rest of the deplorables are concerned, I say to them that this pandemic is taxing enough...please limit their visits here.
2020-04-21 15:55:49
No doubt maj was touched personally by COVID-19. Either him or someone close to him. Attitudes tend to change with personal experience
2020-04-21 16:04:12
In reply to Walco
How do you know his attitude changed? Do you know him personally or you just speculating?
2020-04-21 16:31:58
In reply to problemjay
I did not say that his attitude changed. I simply made the general statement that attitudes tend to change with personal experience.
2020-04-21 21:04:44
Maj practicing social distancing from the MB and quarantine himself.
2020-04-21 23:26:48
In reply to carl0002
No. I think Maj too ashamed to come back here after that "41 deaths debacle".
Sometimes you have to cut your losses. In this case Maj is waiting for something else to come up to redeem himself.
He should should put into practice after reading Redirecting and Distraction by Donald J Trump., to help him throw you bloodhounds off his track.
2020-04-22 02:26:17
In reply to embsallie
You really believe that?
Think about it. Trump have no shame. What are the chances that any of his followers have any?
2020-04-22 08:55:14
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 45,343
2) Italy 24,648
3) Spain 21,282
4) France 20,796
5) UK 17,337
6) Belgium 5,998
7) Iran 5,297
Germany 5,086
9) China 4,632
10) Netherlands 3,916
2020-04-22 18:22:41
Maj waiting for this thread to reach on page 14 b4 he makes a return
2020-04-23 06:42:35
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 47,681
2) Italy 25,085
3) Spain 21,717
4) France 21,340
5) UK 18,100
6) Belgium 6,262
7) Iran 5,391
Germany 5,315
9) China 4,632
10) Netherlands 4,054
2020-04-23 10:18:53
Oh America people around the world know you special, look at you Link Text
2020-04-24 10:41:58
In reply to mikesiva
Come in mike, where's today's update?
2020-04-24 12:28:09
In reply to Drapsey
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 50,243
2) Italy 25,549
3) Spain 22,157
4) France 21,856
5) UK 18,738
6) Belgium 6,490
7) Germany 5, 575
Iran 5,481
9) China 4,632
10) Netherlands 4,177
No other country's been able to break into the top ten yet....
2020-04-24 12:52:36
The US hits 50,000 and is still speeding along. That's about 1 in every 6000 Americans killed by covid-19.
Most of the other countries have slowed down significantly. Still, Americans are protesting to re-open, to save businesses and the economy!
2020-04-24 22:39:05
In reply to Norm
God bless America!!
2020-04-24 23:41:40
In reply to TriniStar
God bless America!!
Amen.
2020-04-25 00:32:43
In reply to Norm
An economic hurt America will be at the mercy of China for a trade deal after this Covid pandemic
2020-04-25 01:14:31
In reply to carl0002
Maj waiting for this thread to reach on page 14 b4 he makes a return
The famous first post...
Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities..
Stop crying about testing
Stop crying about testing
It's all about fatalities because on March 13, 2020, maj the vaj (and the rest of Dotard nation) really thought American exceptionalism would apply to a deadly highly contagious virus and they would be somehow spared, unlike those other 'poor' countries ravaged by the contagion.
Now that the death toll in the United States of Dotardstan is past 50k and continues unabated he's scurried off into the darkness like the cockroach that he is.
2020-04-25 01:17:41
In reply to problemjay
An economic hurt America will be at the mercy of China for a trade deal after this Covid pandemic
It was like that even before the pandemic, but this pandemic will provide a nice excuse to Western counties, to make acceptance easier. From what I heard, China has enough US Treasury bonds to seriously hurt the US economy, should they decide to cash in those bonds.
2020-04-25 09:45:04
In reply to Norm
The top ten death toll of official deaths....
1) USA 52,217
2) Italy 25,969
3) Spain 22,524
4) France 22,245
5) UK 19,506
6) Belgium 6,917
7) Germany 5,767
Iran 5,574
9) China 4,632
10) Netherlands 4,289
2020-04-25 11:02:49
The good part is the death and infection rates are slowing down.
We should be way below the 240,000 deaths predicted by the experts.
2020-04-25 11:07:16
In reply to nitro
Listen idiot - the experts who predicted that are the Con's people.
If you don't think 51,000 deaths and counting is already madness, you need help.
2020-04-25 11:25:43
In reply to Chrissy
Of course it is but it will be well below what Dr Fauci and others predicted.
Great fightback by Team America.
2020-04-25 11:48:00
In reply to nitro
how are the numbers compared to the "seasonal flu"
2020-04-25 13:41:23
In reply to doosra
Ask Chrissy, she was against banning travel from China as she insisted the seasonal flu killed more people.
It is a good thing Trump Admin did not listen to experts like her.
2020-04-25 13:58:29
In reply to nitro
You mean these de WH put out so dey cud look good in de end.
Anything less dan de 240k dat de WH put out and Trumpy will beat his chest
2020-04-25 15:02:07
In reply to Maispwi
Classic under-promise and overdeliver strategy eh.
Major climb down from "it will just disappear like magic" though. The red hats don't care though.
2020-04-25 15:13:29
In reply to nitro
9th Feb 2022. It will be gone!
Who is the moron that said that?
Change ur login and respond
2020-04-25 16:39:21
In reply to nitro
Great fightback by Team America.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Man, all yuh Trump supporters are the absolute best!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
This is like Bajans celebrating JHo wonderful captaincy skills because WI avoided an innings defeat to Bangladesh, or one of them other minnows!!!!
"We have to be thankful for the intangibles!!!"
2020-04-25 16:41:30
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
9th Feb 2022. It will be gone!
Who is the moron that said that?
Who is the moron that said that?
Dem still have nearly 2 years to go. So cut them some slack nuh!
2020-04-25 17:07:10
In reply to Norm
Actually is your friend Chrissy who predicted the Chinese would eliminate their virus by February 9, 2020. The same Chrissy who said it was not as dangerous as the flu.
2020-04-25 18:04:05
In reply to nitro
Actually is your friend Chrissy who predicted the Chinese would eliminate their virus by February 9, 2020. The same Chrissy who said it was not as dangerous as the flu.
Yes, nitro. That facting Chrissy should be immediately removed from the presidency of cc.com. That'll certainly teach her.
2020-04-25 18:36:53
People gathering down in Queens Park, Downtown Toronto calling Covid19 a fake and that the province/city must be opened now!
Anarchy Part 1.
2020-04-25 18:53:02
In reply to Norm
Sarcasm with the 2022
2020-04-25 20:14:50
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Sarcasm with the 2022
Everybody being sarcastic now ... Donnie, Dan ...
2020-04-25 21:07:30
In reply to Drapsey
My point is she is accusing Trump of taking this thing lightly but she also did.
2020-04-26 01:45:21
Surely this was already posted.
From Worldometer site
Link Text
New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people at grocery stores across New York State found a 13.9% had coronavirus antibodies, suggesting a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially). Governor Cuomo acknowledged that the official count reported by New York State (which still is not including probable deaths as recommended by the new CDC guidelines) of about 15,500 deaths is "not accurate" as it doesn't account for stay at home deaths. Based on Worldometer's count (which includes probable deaths reported by New York City) of about 21,000 deaths and the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78% [source]
2020-04-26 02:22:58
Sorry America but not even all your bombs and military posture can help you now. Corona taking over your warships now Link Text
2020-04-26 02:33:05
In reply to Norm
stab at the ds "feb 9, 2020"
2020-04-26 08:33:32
The official top ten death toll....
1) USA 54,265
2) Italy 26,384
3) Spain 22,902
4) France 22,614
5) UK 20,319
6) Belgium 6,917
7) Germany 5,877
Iran 5,650
9) China 4,632
10) Netherlands 4,409
The USA have now lapped everyone else!
2020-04-26 11:43:27
In reply to mikesiva
I think they said USA doesn't count deaths outside the hospital or in care homes. The UK doesn't either.
What about the top ten? Which countries count ALL deaths? I know Belgium (as well as Sweden-not in top 10-who has the same population count) does.
What about the others?
2020-04-26 15:44:10
In reply to mikesiva
The world comes to the USA so that is expected. I highly doubt the Chinese numbers are that low.
2020-04-26 15:55:08
In reply to JahJah
I think they said USA doesn't count deaths outside the hospital or in care homes. The UK doesn't either.
Many of these countries do not. We will only get a good estimate of the deaths after 12-18 months. That’s how it was done for SARS.
2020-04-26 16:17:29
In reply to nitro
I highly doubt the Chinese numbers are that low.
Well, duh!
2020-04-26 16:18:31
In reply to JOJO
Same with the actual infected rate as well, eh. Well, I guess it's a wait and see thing then.
2020-04-26 16:26:03
In reply to mikesiva
The USA have now lapped everyone else!
We need to triple the rest, then quadruple them. Let's re-open!!! Let's re-open!!!
2020-04-26 22:01:14
USA - Moe than 55,000 deaths, More than 40 million jobs lost
2020-04-27 02:51:18
Chaos in Brazil (4286) and Mexico (1351), two countries that ignored the seriousness of the virus and did not enforce lock-downs. The presidents of Brazil and Mexico basically laughed at the virus. In Mexico, people are physically attacking nurses and doctors in the streets!
The decision of Sweden (2194) to not enforce the lock-down is starting to look bad now, despite talk of achieving "herd immunity". This looks even worse when compared to Sweden's neighbors: Denmark (422), Norway (201) and Finland (190). Sweden has 217 deaths per million, Denmark 73 per million, Norway 37 per million and Finland 34.
And, the US? Still going strong, with 55,413.
2020-04-27 03:42:37
In reply to Norm
I'm pretty sure they expected death not enforcing a full lock down, due to the fact they figured it would not overwhelm their healthcare system, and it seems it didn't. Perhaps because over 50% of the deaths may have been in care homes.
It will be interesting to see who the second wave they keep talking about takes the heaviest toll on.
Mexico and Brazil currently have 10 and 20 deaths per million, respectively. That's lower than USA (167) and Canada {68} who are locked down...and USA apparently isn't counting all deaths so their death rate like the UK's should be higher if that's the case.
2020-04-27 05:29:55
In reply to JahJah
I'm pretty sure they expected death not enforcing a full lock down
I would think so too. Let's hope their approach turns out to be no worse than their neighbors' in the long term. At this point tho, their neighbors seem to be faring much better.
The trouble with the Brazil and Mexico numbers is they are far worse than their neighbors', and much worse than those of countries with similar climates.
USA apparently isn't counting all deaths
Lots of problems with the US numbers. We are apparently not counting the "unconfirmed" cases - those who were not tested, even if their symptoms indicate that they died of the virus.
2020-04-27 07:47:48
In reply to JahJah
Good questions! Do any of us have the answers?
The stats are flawed, and not the best comparison, given that some countries like the UK only count hospital deaths, while France and Spain count community deaths as well as hospital deaths. But it's all we've got at this point in time....
The top ten official death tolls:
1) USA 55,415
2) Italy 26,644
3) Spain 23,190
4) France 22,856
5) UK 20,732
6) Belgium 7,094
7) Germany 5,974
Iran 5,710
9) China 4,633
10) Netherlands 4,286
Brazil on the verge of breaking into the top ten....
2020-04-27 12:46:18
In reply to Norm
But is it too simplistic to look at your neighbours without taking into account certain differences between the countries? I can tell you that Norway and Denmark have a much lower immigrant and refugee (they really don't want them) population than Sweden...by far, and they seem to be the ones getting hit the hardest, especially the Somalis.
Sweden would have had much higher numbers regardless. The fact is, many were expecting Italy like death numbers per million by now. Check Belgium's number per million.
Both USA and Canada are both locked down, and you can see the big difference in deaths.
2020-04-27 12:52:15
In reply to mikesiva
Well, that's why I take the numbers of certain countries with a grain of salt when comparing numbers and would use JoJo's timeline to wait and see. But if they are already like the UK's then that's bad enough.
2020-04-27 12:53:31
Folks, once the virus gets to clusters (communities) it will spread. The further apart these communities are in any given country the slower the spread of infection.
Countries which are sparsely populated and have many small clusters also will see a much slower spread of the disease.
But make no mistake about it, when the diasease gets to these seemingly unaffected clusters, it will spread rapidly if phsysical distancing is not implemented.
The key is to have a Rate of Transmission (RT) to below 1 thus preventing the collapse of health infrastructure as happened in Italy.
2020-04-27 13:22:41
In reply to Courtesy
Not sure about USA's Iowa etc etc, but the virus is pretty much present in each 'community'/province in Sweden, and available beds are increasing.
2020-04-27 13:35:02
In reply to JahJah
Is there sufficient antibody testing in Sweden to ascertain what percentage of the population has been affected?
2020-04-27 13:39:44
In reply to Courtesy
You'd have to ask Tegnell dem dat, if you really want to know. Do you have a list of countries that have sufficient amounts of these tests? Maybe he can hit them up for some?
Is America one of them? I read somewhere that nearly 3 million people in NY were thought to have been affected (based on these tests I believe), which means the fatality rate would be far lower? Their case count was 293,991 as of today.
2020-04-27 13:45:06
In reply to JahJah
The point being made is that without sufficient antibody testing there is no way to get an accurate picture of what happening in any country. Herd immunity only becomes important when 70-80 percent of the population (RO 1) has been affected with the disease.
Sweden's eemingly lower rate of infection could be an aberration. They could very well be lagging behind as a result aof their sparse and isolted communities.
Btw, only 19 percent of New York's population has been infected with Covid-19 which require tx. There is currently random testing for antibodies which started yesterday...the results will show the extent of spread.
2020-04-27 13:51:24
In reply to Courtesy
Sweden's eemingly lower rate of infection could be an aberration.
Sweden has the same case rate as Germany, and more than Denmark and Norway, while testing at nearly a third of the rate of each of those.
2020-04-27 13:55:00
In reply to JahJah
Germany has larger population cohorts which will exacerabte the spread. The antibody coverage (antigenicity) is the only metric which gives a clear picture of the status of Covid-19 in any country.
2020-04-27 13:56:40
In reply to Courtesy
And Denmark and Norway? The fact is, Sweden has tested a whole lot less. There could very well be a lot more infections.
2020-04-27 13:58:28
In reply to JahJah
I have not studied their mitigation policies. To cut it short, what do you think accounts for Sweden's seemingly favourable Covid-19 numbers as compared to the two countries mentionad above?
...Sweden has tested a whole lot less. There could be very well a lot more infections.
Well, this is my point. We can only speculate at this point in time, unless we get the antibody numbers. The number of hospitalisations or death rate will not cut a true picture because of the high levels of asymptomaticity.
2020-04-27 14:08:59
In reply to Courtesy
Denmark is one of the most densely populated countries in the world. Norway, one of the least.
You mentioned a slower spread earlier. Doesn't this help in preventing the overwhelming of a heath care system? There is no vaccine yet, but so many places are going to start opening up again with this virus still dancing around.
PS: Gotland has about 60,000 people, and as far as I know they locked that island quite a while ago. Many from the mainland have cottages there, and cannot get to them now. Again, as far as I know.
2020-04-27 14:11:27
In reply to JahJah
You mentioned a slower spread earlier. Doesn't this help in preventing the overwhelming of a heath care system? There is no vaccine yet so many places are going to start opening up with this virus still dancing around.
Physical distancing is unsustainale. At some point countries will have to get their economies going again. The key to it is adopting re-opening measures (strategies) in a methodical way - being able to test your key indicators along the way and making fleet-footed adjustments where necessary as they go along.
2020-04-27 14:19:41
In reply to Courtesy
Physical distancing is unsustainale.
This UK professor seems to think it's needed for a long, long while. Until the end of the year?
2020-04-27 14:24:41
In reply to JahJah
Thanks. For our tourism dependent economies in the Carribean this Covid-19 outlook does not paint a good picture. Jah help us all.
2020-04-27 22:11:27
In reply to maj
In reply to Ayenmol
Ok the facts say 41 dead.
Opinions are not relevant.
Ok the facts say 41 dead.
Opinions are not relevant.
Mr MAJ, I know you are in hiding
Now the facts say over 55,000 dead.
Do you think opinions are relevant now?
2020-04-28 07:38:39
In reply to JahJah
Today, the UK's Office of National Statistics just reported that about 5,500 deaths from coronavirus occurred in care homes, a figure which is still not included in the UK stats. And that doesn't include those who died at home....
Senegal has had quite a bit of success in tackling coronavirus:
Here
The official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 56,803
2) Italy 26,977
3) Spain 23,521
4) France 23,293
5) UK 21,092
6) Belgium 7,207
7) Germany 6,126
Iran 5,806
9) China 4,633
10) Brazil 4,603
Brazil replace Netherlands in the top ten....
2020-04-28 14:07:06
We got artificially stopped by a virus that nobody ever thought possible and we handle it and we've built a team and we built an apparatus that's been unbelievable. Take a look at the swine flu, right? That's N1N1. Take a look at that and it's not the other way around, by the way. It's H1N1. Take a--you know what I mean by that. Take a look at the swine flu. It was a disaster. 17,000 people died.
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This coming from a guy who could not find his way out of a paper bag and who has the dubious distinction of having more people dead on his watch in six weeks than the Vietnam war or the Korean war, The Gulf war, the Afghan war and 9/11 combined.
What a Moron!
2020-04-29 08:41:55
In reply to embsallie
If 17k was a disaster, what is 59k?
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 59,266
2) Italy 27,359
3) Spain 23,822
4) France 23,660
5) UK 21,678
6) Belgium 7,331
7) Germany 6,314
Iran 5,877
9) Brazil 5,083
10) China 4,633
2020-04-29 17:14:52
In reply to mikesiva
If 17k was a disaster, what is 59k?
Bro I have no answer for you. I am baffled that a President of the United States would try to compare 59,000 deaths (FACT) with 17,000 (if true) and call the latter a disaster.
2020-04-30 09:26:52
In reply to embsallie
Now that the UK have finally included deaths outside of hospitals, they're moving up the table....
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA 61,669
2) Italy 27,682
3) UK 26,097
4) Spain 24,275
5) France 24,087
6) Belgium 7,501
7) Germany 6,467
Iran 5,957
9) Brazil 5,513
10) Netherlands 4,711
The Dutch have pushed China out of the official top ten....
2020-04-30 16:43:09
like only US counting deaths...all the other countries numbers just stopped
2020-04-30 17:53:27
In reply to ray
Yuh friend maj the vaj conveniently (though not surprisingly) disappeared and abandoned his mega thread Bro.
2020-04-30 18:20:42
No such thing as too few deaths.
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
To copy Maj...From page 1.
the death toll is the ultimate truth teller.....
2020-05-01 06:53:20
In reply to johndom90
Famous last words,, and inaccurate too. Italy has a better healthcare system than the US, because it covers everybody, not just those who can afford health insurance.
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA 63,871
2) Italy 27,967
3) UK 26,771
4) Spain 24,543
5) France 24,376
6) Belgium 7,594
7) Germany 6,623
Iran 6,028
9) Brazil 6,006
10) Netherlands 4,795
At this rate, the UK will replace Italy at number two.
2020-05-01 23:45:55
I see Trump continue to push the narrative about China is the one to blame for America corona crisis. Ah just watching how many Americans he fooling
2020-05-03 04:13:48
US 67,444 today. Still rocketing along.
UK (3rd) 28,131 and rocketing along.
Brazil 6761 and joining the rocketing crowd, Trump style.
Sweden 2,669 and losing control fast.
Mexico 2,061. Another Trump-style approach spiraling out of control.
Belarus 97. Another flagrant Trump-style violator of common sense, but keeping it together thus far.
2020-05-03 04:22:03
In reply to Norm
You're easily excitable and overly dramatic aren't you. lol. Have you actually been assessing each country's day to day progress, or are you just looking at numbers every 10 days or so?
2020-05-03 09:32:54
In reply to TriniStar
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 67,448
2) Italy 28,710
3) UK 28,131
4) Spain 25,100
5) France 24,760
6) Belgium 7,765
7) Germany 6,812
Brazil 6,761
9) Iran 6,156
10) Netherlands 4,987
2020-05-03 17:08:03
In reply to JahJah
Have you actually been assessing each country's day to day progress, or are you just looking at numbers every 10 days or so?
Looks like the Sweden numbers are worrisome, aren't they?
2020-05-03 17:27:13
In reply to Norm
No clue. Some say it's going as expected although they neglected the care homes, and then there are those who were worrying. So many were expecting Italy, Spain, Belgium rates. That didn't pan out so far, so it seems they are moving to a different line of argument.
I'm guessing Belgium is more worried, with being locked down and people still dying off plenty. But even that I can't say for sure.
If you don't fully lock down then surely you must expect a good amount of illness and death. That goes without saying. I presume it then becomes a matter of whether your system gets overwhelmed...like it previously was in NYC. Up until now they said capacity in the healthcare system is increasing.
Is Mexico spiralling out of control? They don't seem to be testing much though.
2020-05-03 17:48:50
In reply to Norm
I am paying attention to Canada. They say we are pretty much coming out of our peak. We just past 200 deaths in one day for the first time. Dougie is opening Ontario piece by piece starting tomorrow. The virus still deh bout, so...more infections abound, no? I mean, there's no vaccine yet.
And watch international travel start again with even more chances to spread.
So some countries getting it more up front and the others spread it out over time. Kinda like long run, short ketch?
2020-05-03 21:55:03
In reply to JahJah
I'm guessing Belgium is more worried, with being locked down and people still dying off plenty.
Yes, that has been crazy. Perhaps it has to do with Belgium being small and densely populated. Nevertheless, Belgium has been going and going. Portugal too seems to be having a similar experience. Luxemburg, however, seems to be doing better.
Mexico, Brazil and Belarus have taken a path somewhat similar to Sweden, but without Sweden's appeal to its citizens for self-imposed caution. Brazil, Mexico and Sweden are having the results expected from not enforcing a lock-down, to varying degrees, but Belarus seems to be "getting away with murder". The sports leagues, stadiums and businesses never shut down, and they seem to be none the worse.
I am paying attention to Canada
Canada seemed to be "holding strain" for quite a while, until more recently, when it seemed to be drifting toward overload.
watch international travel start again
We won't have long to wait to see which way this goes. My take is that a few countries or US states will become reservoirs for the virus, which will lead to frequent outbreaks, avoidance of those locations and lock-downs inside of them. China currently has a similar situation along its border with Russia, which is now acting as a reservoir.
That's why Brazil and Mexico worry me so much. Brazil will keep South America, including Guyana (and the Caricom states it interacts with) infected, while Mexico will keep California infected. Elsewhere, some country or the other will become reservoirs to keep their neighbors infected.
It is true that the world would be much better prepared for future outbreaks, but this thing isn't over yet - not for a couple of yers or more.
2020-05-04 08:13:50
In reply to JahJah
Here in the UK, we're entering our seventh week of lockdown, but it's only a partial lockdown. Flights can still come and go from Heathrow, and there's no contact tracing taking place. There's no government quarantines, and people are just expected to self-isolate. We're doing so in our household, only going out once a week to the supermarket. Both the wife and I are working from home, but we know other Brits who are going out a lot more often than we are. There doesn't seem to be a coherent strategy in the UK. No wonder Britain's about to overtake Italy for second place!
The top ten official death tolls....
1) USA 68,602
2) Italy 28,884
3) UK 28,446
4) Spain 25,264
5) France 24,895
6) Belgium 7,844
7) Brazil 7,051
Germany 6,866
9) Iran 6,203
10) Netherlands 5,056
2020-05-04 11:57:25
In reply to mikesiva
They want people to stay home and only make ‘necessary journeys’
But some McDonald's Drive-Thru open, many garden centres and rubbish tips also opening
So is it necessary journeys or not?
2020-05-04 12:45:09
In reply to Halliwell
Maj hasn’t resurfaced – I sincerely hope its voluntary
2020-05-04 14:00:33
Does anyone on here know maj?
2020-05-04 14:51:16
In reply to Norm
Mexico's testing is way too low. Sweden needs to way way test more if they aren't going to enforce a proper lock down. Mexico, though, don't seem to be testing at all. Just 700 per million? That is where they really are missing the trick.
Yes, Canada was holding steady for a while then had it's biggest day of death a couple days ago. It was a pretty big jump. They claimed we are still in the peak but about to come down. Ok then...
A lot of the death and cases are taking place in Quebec (which is opening schools now) and with Ontario pretty much a distant second. The rest of Canada...meh.
2020-05-04 21:05:43
In reply to mikesiva
I thought the UK was locked down tight. I know we can still fly to the UK from Toronto. Flights on Air Canada are once per day instead of the usual 5 or 6. But flights to the USA all cancelled since a few days ago until May 22. Go Figure.
So you mean to say once a person lands in the UK now then that's it? Business as usual?
2020-05-05 00:02:11
In reply to JahJah
Mexico's testing is way too low.
The ostrich strategy. They think this thing will simply go away if they ignore it, just like most developed countries did with the Spanish Flu.
2020-05-05 14:33:05
Come in, Mike.
2020-05-05 14:34:31
Soon America will be revising their numbers just like China did to account for unregistered corona deaths.
2020-05-06 07:39:26
In reply to JahJah
This UK lockdown is a joke! Once you land at Heathrow, there's no govt quarantine, like there is in NZ, and there will be in Jamaica when the ship workers return home this week. Instead, you pack into a flight with no social distancing, queue at Heathrow with no social distancing, go through immigration without any health or temperature checks, and then you hop on the tube, congregating with everyone else on the tube, and carry potential infections to those who're self-isolating.
No wonder Britain is now second in the world
The US and the UK at one and two in the world. Talk about a morbid special relationship....
1) USA 72,271
2) UK 29,427
3) Italy 29,315
4) Spain 25,613
5) France 25,551
6) Belgium 8,016
7) Brazil 7,958
Germany 6,993
9) Iran 6,340
10) Netherlands 5,168
2020-05-06 07:52:50
In reply to mikesiva
Yesterday all day they reported a further 3000 in care homes that take the total to 32,000 plus. But the presser and the reports since last evening are 29,000 plus with Nuff dress back about ‘not good to compare countries’ , ‘deaths per million’ and some other foolishness to cook the numbers.
Every dam day they showing the chart with all the countries because they was under, now they are top it not comparable
All the Brexit buffoons swallowing this hook line and sinker and praising Boris for doing the best he can.
2020-05-07 08:34:20
In reply to Halliwell
Yeah, I noticed that too. Now that the UK are on top in Europe, "you can't compare countries"! The UK buss 30k...so now them start use graph showing deaths per million people. The problem with that graph is it shows Britain doing worse than the USA!
1) USA 74,809
2) UK 30,076
3) Italy 29,684
4) Spain 25,857
5) France 25,809
6) Brazil 8,588
7) Belgium 8,339
Germany 7,275
9) Iran 6,418
10) Netherlands 5,204
2020-05-08 16:10:18
US economy loses a record 20.5 million jobs in April! Link Text
2020-05-08 18:20:13
In reply to problemjay
US economy loses a record 20.5 million jobs in April! Link Text
and that is for just the month of April. Its more than 40 million total
2020-05-08 22:24:36
So much homeless and suffering going on in NY smh Link Text
2020-05-09 07:54:10
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 78,616
2) UK 31,241
3) Italy 30,201
4) France 26,230
5) Spain 26,299
6) Brazil 10,017
7) Belgium 8,521
Germany 7,510
9) Iran 6,541
10) Netherlands 5,359
2020-05-09 09:56:12
In reply to mikesiva
Now that Covid is ramping through the elderly in care homes, the ditherers and delayers are concentrating on opening up KFCs and GardenCentres. Because what we don’t want to live without a peak or two
2020-05-09 14:22:52
In reply to mikesiva
So now Boris wants to bring in 14 day self-isolation for people arriving into the UK...starting the end of May. Too little too late, you think?
People coming from areas where there isn't much Covid19 should be the ones worried about arriving in the UK, you think?
2020-05-10 02:14:29
In reply to JahJah
People coming from areas where there isn't much Covid19 should be the ones worried about arriving in the UK, you think?
True.
The UK 30,000+ deaths and second place worldwide, is testimony to their ridiculous handling of this pandemic, but they are masters of spinning a story and deceiving.
2020-05-10 02:23:34
US (80,037) should be galloping past 100,000 by next weekend, and past 120,000 by the end of the month, assuming there is no second wave from reckless re-opening. No lock-downers Brazil (10,656) should be closing in on second place UK (currently at 31,587) by the end of May. Mexico, another no-lockdowner, should be in the middle of Top 10 by the end of the month too.
Europe's most prominent no-lockdowner Sweden (3,220) seem to be keeping it together, but they are not out of the woods yet. You would think that they would be testing extensively to determine if their "herd immunity" approach is working, but there has been no news about that.
2020-05-11 07:23:06
In reply to JahJah
Yes, locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. Personally, I think all countries around the world should be quarantining Brits whenever they arrive in their respective countries, because no contact tracing is taking place in the community yet. So, you have a lot of Brits walking around who probably don't know whether they have coronavirus or not. Even the 14-day quarantine at Heathrow is half-arsed...travellers from France are exempt. Can you see the logic in that exemption?
The latest official top ten death toll....
1) USA 80,787
2) UK 31,855
3) Italy 30,560
4) Spain 26,621
5) France 26,380
6) Brazil 11,123
7) Belgium 8,656
Germany 7,569
9) Iran 6,640
10) Netherlands 5,440
2020-05-11 10:24:30
In reply to mikesiva
From my peeps place
2020-05-11 15:53:16
In reply to mikesiva
Corbyn did warn allyuh bout Boris
2020-05-11 16:46:48
In reply to JahJah
Yep
2020-05-11 16:57:48
2020-05-11 17:03:39
USA - More than 80,000 deaths, More than 45 Million jobs lost, most economists say US in recession
2020-05-12 08:26:48
In reply to JahJah
If only....
Instead, we're stuck with this idiot Boris Johnson. What a special relationship at the top of the charts!
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 81,795
2) UK 32,065
3) Italy 30,739
4) Spain 26,744
5) France 26,643
6) Brazil 11,653
7) Belgium 8,707
Germany 7,661
9) Iran 6,685
10) Netherlands 5,456
2020-05-12 11:05:50
The US death rate has slowed quite a bit. We will find out soon enough if it continue that way.
2020-05-12 19:34:25
In reply to Norm
Does not matter though.
The damage has been done. 81000 deaths in the space of 2 months, 2.5 months is quite significant and CANNOT be compared to anything else in recent times save the Christmas Tsunami in Asia that killed in excess of 250,000 people, not war or any other natural disaster that come to mind.
2020-05-12 20:26:15
We need our new poster Pooranian to convert back to Maj and update the death tally in this thread
Thank you and good bye
2020-05-13 07:57:38
In reply to problemjay
Statsman Narps is the need of the hour..Me out of here..
2020-05-14 07:26:53
In reply to Norm
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 85,197
2) UK 33,186
3) Italy 31,106
4) Spain 27,104
5) France 27,074
6) Brazil 13,240
7) Belgium 8,843
Germany 7,861
9) Iran 6,783
10) Netherlands 5,562
2020-05-16 00:48:34
The US is a disgrace and dey want to talk about China smh Link Text
2020-05-16 10:08:25
In reply to problemjay
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 88,507
2) UK 33,998
3) Italy 31,610
4) France 27,529
5) Spain 27,459
6) Brazil 14,962
7) Belgium 8,959
Germany 8,001
9) Iran 6,902
10) Netherlands 5,643
2020-05-17 17:22:27
Everything is big in Texas
The state, one of the first to start reopening, reported an increase of 1,801 positive coronavirus cases on Saturday.
2020-05-17 18:23:49
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
The average American in dem southern states don't care. they willing to make that sacrifice to open up the country
2020-05-17 18:34:53
In reply to TriniStar
I agree with your sentiments but sure you will agree body bags will not stop piling up.
We are not at the top of the bell curve.
Just mirror that when it does and you may come close to the answer providing all the behavior modifications is maintained.
The southern states look at u funny if you have a mask on.
2020-05-17 21:04:25
Well Bolsonaro is living up to his name as the Brazilian Trump
Brazil cases are increasing steadily and up to yesterday this man still saying the corona is nothing more than a flu and Brazilians should just go about their lives as normal
2020-05-17 21:05:55
In reply to problemjay
that guy deserves a place in some hall of fame
2020-05-18 08:15:17
Canada nudge the Netherlands out of the top ten....
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA 90,978
2) UK 34,636
3) Italy 31,908
4) France 28,108
5) Spain 27,650
6) Brazil 16,122
7) Belgium 9,052
Germany 8,049
9) Iran 6,988
10) Canada 5,782
2020-05-19 01:01:12
So where's Maj ?
2020-05-19 08:31:43
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 91,981
2) UK 34,796
3) Italy 32,007
4) France 28,239
5) Spain 27,709
6) Brazil 16,853
7) Belgium 9,080
Germany 8,123
9) Iran 7,057
10) Canada 5,842
The UK deaths are massively understated, according to the OFfice of National Statistics, probably by as much as 25%. The UK figure only counts those who have actually been tested for coronavirus. In contrast, the ONS figure counts those who have coronavirus on the death certificate.
As a result, the ONS figure for England and Wales alone (not Scotland and Northern Ireland) up until May 8 is over 39,000...this was just announced by the head of ONS on BBC1 domestic TV. Apparently, for whole of the UK, that figure is 41,020 up to May 8.
2020-05-20 09:19:30
In reply to bravos
Kuntry
2020-05-20 17:44:29
In reply to bravos
More and more it seems that there is only one answer to that question.
2020-05-21 09:44:17
In reply to Halliwell
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 94,941
2) UK 35,704
3) Italy 32,330
4) France 28,132
5) Spain 27,888
6) Brazil 18,894
7) Belgium 9,150
Germany 8,270
9) Iran 7,183
10) Mexico 6,090
Mexico edges Canada and the Netherlands out of the top ten.
2020-05-21 19:34:47
Bolsonaro is known as the Brazilian Trump so no surprise in his handling of corona in Brazil
2020-05-21 20:56:30
In reply to DirtyDan
that guy deserves a place in some hall of fame
More like a hall of infamy OR
A hall of shame
2020-05-21 22:55:24
Europe is abandoning Trump on the world stage as it turns away from the US toward China Link Text
2020-05-23 11:23:10
In reply to embsallie
Brazil trying hard to catch up with Spain and France....
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA 97,655
2) UK 36,393
3) Italy 32,616
4) Spain 28,628
5) France 28,289
6) Brazil 21,116
7) Belgium 9,237
Germany 8,352
9) Iran 7,300
10) Mexico 6,989
2020-05-23 14:55:46
In reply to mikesiva
I think UK has a massive lack of testing!
2020-05-24 07:03:18
In reply to camos
Yeah, in the UK they're only testing those in hospital, and now those who have symptoms. There's no boots-on-the-ground contact tracing taking place yet.
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA 98,683
2) UK 36,675
3) Italy 32,735
4) Spain 28,678
5) France 28,332
6) Brazil 22,165
7) Belgium 9,237
Germany 8,366
9) Iran 7,359
10) Mexico 7,179
2020-05-26 02:06:03
USA's daily death total continues to drop. 505 this time. Good. Hopefully the recent openings do not make it go up big time again.
Vaj can cum now. No pun intended.
2020-05-26 04:00:03
In reply to JahJah
USA's daily death total continues to drop.
Some reprieve for exhausted medical workers. Watch the political scene heat up quickly now, tho. One side will soon be boasting how they beat the model predictions, while hastily re-opening and encouraging a reckless attitude to the danger.
Inevitably, there will continue to be serious outbreaks in the US where reckless behavior prevails, with some possibility of even worse variants of the virus emerging. Meanwhile, Brazil is doing its best to make this virus remain a threat to the world for as long as possible, with Mexico lending great assistance.
We also have the "Investigate China" and "China must pay" dramas to look forward to, as well as "Let's profit big from a covid-19 vaccine".
Plenty of action still to come!
2020-05-27 15:51:37
80K passed on since the the title of this thread was last updated.
2020-05-27 16:15:22
In reply to carl0002
100k deaths and the Dotard teeing it up at one of his private golf courses.
Welcome to the United States of Retardedstan.
2020-05-27 17:22:30
In reply to SnoopDog
Not to mention between he and Kushner they are both pleased with their performance with 100k dead.
2020-05-27 19:32:14
In reply to mikesiva
Bro Mike, please add this stat...
Countries (1) Recovered + no active cases and (2) Percent recovered + no active cases
For example = 213 total counties impacted
(1) Recovered + no active cases = 21
(2) Percent recovered + percent no active cases = 9.9%
I think too often we deal with the sensational and dark side of things. It would be good to track success and positive things also.
2020-05-28 07:33:14
In reply to DukeStreet
I'll try...I'm not much of a stats guy, so I might get it a little wrong, so bear with me! I'll leave the percentages for you to work out.
First, the bad news...the US have hit six figures in deaths.
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 102,107 deaths (1,745,803 cases, 490,130 recovered, 1,153,566 active)
2) UK - 37,460 deaths (267,240 cases, N/A recovered, N/A active)
3) Italy - 33,072 deaths (231,139 cases, 147,101 recovered, 50,966 active)
4) France - 28,596 deaths (182,913 cases, 66,584 recovered, 87,733 active)
5) Spain - 27,118 deaths (283,849 cases, 196,958 recovered, 59,773 active)
6) Brazil - 25,697 deaths (414,661 cases, 166,647 recovered, 222,317 active)
7) Belgium - 9,364 deaths
Mexico - 8,597 deaths
9) Germany - 8,533 deaths
10) Iran - 7,564 deaths
It's disgraceful that the UK are not keeping any records about recovered and active cases.
2020-06-01 10:08:59
Brazil pass Spain and France...they want to make an unholy alliance with the US and the UK, at this rate.
The latest top ten official death tolls....
1) USA 106,195
2) UK 38,489
3) Italy 33,415
4) Brazil 29,341
5) France 28,802
6) Spain 27,127
7) Mexico 9,930
Belgium 9,467
9) Germany 8,605
10) Iran 7,797
2020-06-07 09:34:47
And Brazil are now in third place!
The latest top ten official death tolls....
1) USA 112,096
2) UK 40,465
3) Brazil 36,044
4) Italy 33,846
5) France 29,142
6) Spain 27,135
7) Mexico 13,511
Belgium 9,580
9) Germany 8,769
10) Iran 8,209
Spain have only had eight deaths in a week! Italy, France, Belgium and Germany have slowed down too...augurs well for those countries.
2020-06-07 12:09:50
In reply to mikesiva
I expect a serious spike in the US - they now have 2million infected and almost 112,000 dead
2020-06-07 13:31:27
In reply to Chrissy
UK has a bigger problem than the US , the US is just a bigger place!
2020-06-12 02:30:38
US close to tripling the next in line, and Brazil racing into second place.
Half the US states see surge after reopening.
Maj still missing from his biggest hit!
2020-06-13 10:32:15
In reply to Norm
And Brazil have taken second place!
Congrats, BolsoNazi....
1) USA 116,831
2) Brazil 41,901
3) UK 41,481
4) Italy 34,223
5) Spain 27,136
6) Mexico 16,448
7) France 29,374
Belgium 9,646
9) India 8,890
10) Germany 8,863
India push Iran out of the top ten.
2020-06-19 20:07:46
So no more updates or people have feared the worst have have happened to the fellow who started this thread.
2020-06-19 20:25:54
In reply to carl0002
He is back you know.
2020-06-19 20:41:23
In reply to nick2020
Is that so? Had no idea.
He should finish what he started then.
2020-06-19 23:12:34
In reply to mikesiva
India push Iran out of the top ten.
Brazil and Mexico jetting along furiously to second and third place. The US is unassailable. Will open the gap even further in the re-opening.
2020-06-20 09:45:35
In reply to Norm
The top three are run by the racist trio of Trump, Bolsonaro and Johnson...says it all.
1) USA 121,407
2) Brazil 49,090
3) UK 42,461
4) Italy 34,561
5) France 29,617
6) Spain 28,315
7) Mexico 20,394
India 12,971
9) Belgium 9,696
10) Iran 9,392
Germany fall out of the top ten...congrats to them, on a job well done. Test, test, test....
2020-06-20 15:52:49
TheUS and Brazil running way with this title
both countries now over a million cases
2020-07-01 13:57:55
In reply to problemjay
The US and Brazil continue to dominate....
The latest top ten official death tolls:
1) USA 130,122
2) Brazil 59,656
3) UK 43,730
4) Italy 34,767
5) France 29,843
6) Spain 28,355
7) Mexico 27,769
India 17,410
9) Iran 10,817
10) Belgium 9,747
Mexico on the verge of overtaking Spain and France.
2020-07-01 14:30:19
America has to face a humbling experience as Europe puts a ban on their travelers Link Text
control the corona in yuh country!
2020-07-01 14:35:29
In reply to mikesiva
Lots of recoveries here in JA
2020-07-03 16:08:31
Need to update the numbers. Massive tribute to whomever started it.
2020-07-05 13:15:25
In reply to carl0002
When maj started this thread, it was to boast that the US only had 41 deaths. Sadly, that story has changed dramatically since then.
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA 132,327
2) Brazil 64,365
3) UK 44,198
4) Italy 34,854
5) Mexico 30,366
6) France 29,893
7) Spain 28,385
India 19,303
9) Iran 11,571
10) Peru 10,412
Mexico have Italy in their sights. Peru displace Belgium in the top ten.
2020-07-05 20:05:05
In reply to mikesiva
Based on the number of people in the USA who see mask wearing as a personal affront, I am beginning to think 250,000 deaths and a raging pandemic until Feb/Mar 2021 cannot be ruled out.
2020-07-12 09:19:10
In reply to Headley
The USA seem determined not to relinquish their number one status....
The latest top ten official death tolls:
1) USA 137,403
2) Brazil 71,492
3) UK 44,798
4) Italy 34,945
5) Mexico 34,730
6) France 30,004
7) Spain 28,403
India 22,696
9) Iran 12,635
10) Peru 11,682
India will soon overtake Spain and France, at this rate....
2020-07-20 09:13:11
The latest top ten official death tolls:
1) USA 143,289
2) Brazil 79,533
3) UK 45,300
4) Mexico 39,184
5) Italy 35,045
6) France 30,152
7) Spain 28,420
India 27,514
9) Iran 14,188
10) Peru 13,187
A weekly analysis shows that Brazil, USA, India and Mexico registered over 5k deaths in the past week, while Iran and Peru had over a thousand deaths, and the UK about 500. The number of weekly deaths in Italy, France and Spain have fallen dramatically.
2020-07-25 13:32:59
is maj ever going to return?
He came back as some guy and left when he realized he had not shed his history.
I did not realize he was soo thin skinned.
Was a huge blunder, but he was not alone in down playing it.
Chrissy downplayed it too, massively....yet she still posting....even acting like she had it right all along, when in the beginning her views were in lock step with Trump's.
2020-07-25 13:49:13
In reply to Ayenmol
is maj ever going to return?
We have Sangfroid.
But he never comes in here.
2020-07-25 15:26:17
In reply to Ayenmol
Chrissy downplayed it too, massively....yet she still posting....even acting like she had it right all along, when in the beginning her views were in lock step with Trump's.
That is true, she said it was not as bad as the flu. She was mad about the ban on Communist China.
2020-07-25 16:08:36
In reply to nick2020
We have Sangfroid.
But he never comes in here.
But he never comes in here.
No, SangVoid is certainly not maj even though they both seem to wipe Trump's you know where with similar strokes.
2020-07-25 17:04:42
In reply to Drapsey
No, SangVoid is certainly not maj even though they both seem to wipe Trump's you know where with similar strokes.
2020-07-27 10:34:24
The latest official death tolls:
1) USA 149,852
2) Brazil 87,052
3) UK 45,752
4) Mexico 43,680
5) Italy 35,107
6) India 32,866
7) France 30,192
Spain 28,432
9) Peru 18,229
10) Iran 15,700
The US and Brazil still have over 5k deaths a week, while Mexico, Peru and India are just about 5k a week, and Iran about 2k a week. The UK have reduced their deaths to about 500 a week, while Italy, France and Spain all have less than 100 deaths a week.
2020-07-27 12:40:08
In reply to Drapsey
Why would Sangfroid find time to be in a muddie elections thread but stays far from this one?
Edit: Page 40! Brian Lara-like knock this is.
2020-07-29 02:35:02
This was about to go off page 1. Gigantic bump.
2020-07-30 14:37:06
150,676 deaths in USA
The United States on Wednesday surpassed 150,000 recorded Covid-19 deaths -- a milestone that comes as the country's number of daily coronavirus deaths is the highest it's been since the spring.
The first death in the US was reported on February 29. The country reached 50,000 deaths 54 days later on April 23, and 34 days later, on May 27, crossed 100,000 deaths. It has taken 63 days to add another 50,000 to reach the 150,000 mark.
The country's coronavirus death toll was 150,676 as of Wednesday evening -- more than a fifth of the world's recorded deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.
The first death in the US was reported on February 29. The country reached 50,000 deaths 54 days later on April 23, and 34 days later, on May 27, crossed 100,000 deaths. It has taken 63 days to add another 50,000 to reach the 150,000 mark.
The country's coronavirus death toll was 150,676 as of Wednesday evening -- more than a fifth of the world's recorded deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.
2020-08-03 09:27:32
In reply to sgtdjones
The top ten official death tolls....
1) USA 158,365
2) Brazil 94,130
3) Mexico 47,746
4) UK 46,201
5) India 38,176
6) Italy 35,154
7) France 30,265
Spain 28,445
9) Peru 19,614
10) Iran 17,190
Mexico move up to third, and India move up to fifth. The USA, Brazil and Mexico have 5k deaths or over in the past week, Iran, Peru and the UK have 1k deaths or just under, while France, Italy and Spain have under 100 deaths in the past week.
2020-08-13 09:51:12
In reply to mikesiva
No more updates? Is it because the UK is dropping down the list?
2020-08-13 13:15:52
lol but where Mexico come out from? smh
2020-08-13 13:46:45
In reply to NineMiles
UK will forever be in the top ten. It cannot escape.
2020-08-13 14:27:39
In reply to TriniStar
lol but where Mexico come out from? smh
When everyone else was busy implementing social distancing measures, Mexico was hosting rock concerts.
Fan at March 3rd Rock Concert Is Mexico's First Coronavirus Death
Mexico's first coronavirus death is a 41-year-old man who earlier this month went to a concert by Swedish rock band Ghost in Mexico City. According to reports published in multiple media outlets, including the BBC and Mexico’s El Universal, the man went to the concert at Mexico City’s Palacio de los Deportes on March 3, along with over 50,000 other fans.
2020-08-13 14:43:18
In reply to JahJah
That could well be the case... but still better than being in the top 3.
2020-08-13 14:52:26
In reply to mikesiva
The top three are run by the racist trio of Trump, Bolsonaro and Johnson...says it all.
Don't know much about Mexico and Indian politics but wonder if the same logic applies to them too.
Perhaps jahjah can explain in Mikey's absence!
2020-08-13 14:58:34
In reply to NineMiles
Don't know much about Mexico and Indian politics but wonder if the same logic applies to them too.
Perhaps jahjah can explain in Mikey's absence!
Perhaps jahjah can explain in Mikey's absence!
Why would I? Did I back up the claims? But if I were to hazard a guess, isn't India's leader described as a nationalist?
2020-08-13 15:15:51
In reply to JahJah
Why would I?
You were quick to respond to an earlier questioned I posed to Mikey....that's why!
and Mexico??
If racist and nationalistic policies are the main criteria for determining the most covid affected countries, I suggest the likes of Israel, Australia, Hungary, Serbia and most Eastern European countries should be up there. No??
2020-08-13 15:23:55
In reply to NineMiles
You were quick to respond to an earlier questioned I posed to Mikey....that's why!
About the UK falling down the list. Not about the reasons why the UK is on the list!!
and Mexico??
You got an answer to India. Be satisfied. And even then...consider this word: Anomaly.
You need to ask Mike if he meant it were racist policies that caused the chaos/failure, or if he meant that it was just ironic that the top 3 leaders were racist. There is a difference, as you must know.
2020-08-13 15:33:58
In reply to JahJah
I'm more inclined to put it down to sheer incompetence than anything else. The pandemic should have been handled a lot better from the start.
The UK at least have now got a grip on the situation and new cases are falling unlike in many other countries around the world!
2020-08-13 15:46:09
In reply to NineMiles
I'm not sure what's going on with the UK, but the fact they left Canada off the corridor list as if Canada doesn't have a better handle on this than they do was very odd to me. It was as if they still don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
But I see the UK averaging about 1K new cases per day, so there's still some way to go. The story on this thing isn't done by a long shot. The UK can end up like some of the others and start to rise again...unless you plan to be locked up until 2021
2020-08-13 16:11:47
In reply to JahJah
The UK are not the only country imposing travel restrictions. I believe travel to Canada is also subject to certain amount of entry restrictions.
Any govt's number one priority is to protect its citizens so it is understandable. and that is despite my personal hatred of international borders!
I agree this thing is nowhere near over by a long shot!
2020-08-13 17:41:43
In reply to NineMiles
The UK are only dropping down the list because your Tory government is using creative accountancy to cover up for their negligence. I never thought the day would come when you'd come to the defence of the Tories, but a liberal is little more than a conservative in sheep's clothing.
Since you're stalking me again, let me inform you that I only do an update once a week, or thereabouts. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland only count those who die within 28 days of doing a coronavirus test in their death toll, so England decided to retroactively take that approach too, in order to wipe 5k+ off their death toll. I trust that met your approval....
Our Birmingham friend was diagnosed with coronavirus, but died at home without a test. She's omitted from Boris Johnson's dodgy figures. You get a much more accurate tally of deaths by looking at the country's excess deaths figure. I'll leave it to you to find out what Britain's excess deaths figure is for this period.
But let's play along with the top ten countries, and their attempts to understate their official death tolls to date....
1) USA - 169,131
2) Brazil - 104,263
3) Mexico - 54.666
4) India - 47,149
5) UK - 41,329
6) Italy - 35,225
7) France - 30,371
Spain - 28,579
9) Peru - 21,713
10) Iran - 18,988
Since last week, the US, India and Brazil have about 10k deaths or more, Mexico have over 5k deaths, and Peru and Iran about 2k. Spain, Italy and France have less than 500 deaths, but only the UK have been able to reduce their death toll by 5k...truly astounding!
2020-08-13 20:22:25
In reply to mikesiva
Since you're stalking me again
You're feeling stalked? Hahahaha
I'm so so sorry Mikey, didn't realise you are such a vulnerable man. You really should avoid social forums where differing views are expressed if you feel that way.
You should also report me to Admin if you're feeling threatened!
This is about you and your hatred of the UK. You have nothing positive to say about the country of your birth and where you continue to live.
As I have always said about you, you are no different from the racists you always complain about. You share the same mentality on race!
Now back to the serious topic.
Yes, the UK have changed the methodology of counting covid deaths. In the past, if a person tested positive for coronovirus, recovered and then later died in a road traffic accident, it was counted as a Covid death. That is just absolute nonsense! Read more about the rationale behind the change in counting UK covid deaths.
In any case Mexico and India had already overtaken the UK before this change.
Now Mikey, how can you be 100% certain that the method of counting covid deaths in other countries are better than in the UK? There are anecdotal evidence that figures in India, Russia and many other countries are grossly under reported.
This UK Tory government have a lot to answer for about how they mishandled the pandemic right from the start. I was saying to work colleagues that the lockdown should have been imposed two weeks before it actually came into effect. That decision alone to delay the lockdown has caused about 10k deaths in my opinion.
They are now getting to grips with the situation and it has become a balance between reviving the economy and jobs while keeping people safe. There is no convincing you though, cos you will continue to find negatives everywhere!
Anyway, don't forget to report me to mummy, Oh and BTw, Chris Woakes sends you his regards!
2020-08-16 02:40:45
In reply to NineMiles
The UK are not the only country imposing travel restrictions. I believe travel to Canada is also subject to certain amount of entry restrictions.
You're having a comprehension problem of late. Lie dat. It's always been like that. Did you miss the point? Canada has restrictions across the board no matter where you're coming from, so I am not sure what the fact that has to do with what I was saying?
The UK that has 'corridors' based on certain parameters. The claim was that travellers from certain nations in worse shape than the UK would be required to quarantine. Canada is and ALWAYS was in better shape than the UK.
Do you get it now?
2020-08-16 02:46:50
In reply to mikesiva
You mean the UK is not only clueless but also devious? Doesn't surprise me.
2020-08-16 08:30:49
In reply to JahJah
You that desperate to come to the UK? No direct flights into Malmo? Sorry, can’t help you there pal!
2020-08-21 12:40:20
In reply to JahJah
It doesn't surprise me, either. It also doesn't surprise me that NineMilesofCrap is coming to the defence of the devious behaviour of Boris Johnson and co. To Tories like him, the economy is always more important than the health of its people.
The rationale for changing the count is rubbish. Plenty people who've been discharged from hospital are still significantly weaker two months after being discharged, making them vulnerable to fatal illnesses. As you know, and NineMilesofCrap doesn't know, the real figure to look at is the excess deaths figure. The UK's excess deaths figure between the start of the coronavirus pandemic and the start of August is over 60,000, so that's the real death toll.
If NineMilesofCrap had read thru the thread, he would've seen where several of us have said that most countries are understating their true death toll. The official figures fall short of the excess deaths figure. And if NineMilesofCrap can point me to a chart that publishes the worldwide stats for excess deaths in 2020, I would happily quote that instead.
But, in the meantime, let's go with the latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA - 177,426
2) Brazil - 112,423
3) Mexico - 59,106
4) India - 54,987
5) UK - 41,403
6) Italy - 35,418
7) France - 30,480
Spain - 28,813
9) Peru - 27,034
10) Iran - 20,264
Any country that's in the top ten has nothing to crow about...including the UK. No country's going to displace anyone from the top five any time soon.
2020-08-21 13:11:51
In reply to NineMiles
In the past, if a person tested positive for coronovirus, recovered and then later died in a road traffic accident, it was counted as a Covid death.
It is ironic, that such a statement is one I would expect from Donald Trump.I ask you to reflect on the statement and what I just said and then endeavor not to set up straw men to justify what can not be justified.
The world today is full of DISINFORMATION being peddled by powerful people and one has to employ a keen nose for ferreting out the lies, distortions and out of context statements perpetuated by people like Trump and Boris.
Do not let them fool you.
2020-08-21 13:22:14
In reply to NineMiles
You that desperate to come to the UK? No direct flights into Malmo? Sorry, can’t help you there pal! razz
I wouldn't know. I fly from YYZ (Toronto) on Air Canada. There is a flight everyday. Flights from YYZ to LHR never stopped. They only reduced from about 6 flights per day, on Air Canada alone (another 5 or so on BA, West jet and Air Transat), to just one.
Canada to the UK is a major route, NinePiles!
I can come the UK tomorrow if I want. It's just that I'd have to quarantine for 14 days. I am merely highlighting the stupidity of the process. The UK is saying the threshold is 20 cases a week per 100,000 and countries over that have to quarantine. That's why they just removed France, and now TnT (who weren't even flying there anyway) from the exempt list and now included Portugal.
Our count is about 4 or 5. Yours is about 11. You only really just dipped below 20 a couple weeks or so ago. We've been there long ago. We've been below 20 when the first Air Corridor was planned.
2020-08-21 13:29:58
In reply to Dukes
Dukesie, did you read the link I provided in my post above? Let me provide you with some excerpts if you are too lazy to open the link and read it;
The recalculation is based on a new definition of who has died from Covid.
Previously, people in England who died at any point following a positive test, regardless of cause, were counted in the figures.
But there will now be a cut-off of 28 days, providing a more accurate picture of the epidemic.
This brings England's measure in line with the other UK nations.
Previously, people in England who died at any point following a positive test, regardless of cause, were counted in the figures.
But there will now be a cut-off of 28 days, providing a more accurate picture of the epidemic.
This brings England's measure in line with the other UK nations.
Prof John Newton, director of health improvement at Public Health England (PHE), said: "The way we count deaths in people with Covid-19 in England was originally chosen to avoid underestimating deaths caused by the virus in the early stages of the pandemic."
In England, there was no time limit. Someone who recovered from Covid-19 in March and died in a car crash in July would have been counted as a coronavirus death.
Now the UK's four chief medical officers have decided to use a single, consistent measure and publish the number of deaths that occurred within 28 days of a positive coronavirus test confirmed in a lab, every day.
Every week for England, a new set of figures will be published showing the number of deaths that occur within 60 days of a positive test.
Deaths that occur after 60 days - such as those who have been in intensive care for many months - will also be added in if Covid-19 appears on the death certificate.
Now the UK's four chief medical officers have decided to use a single, consistent measure and publish the number of deaths that occurred within 28 days of a positive coronavirus test confirmed in a lab, every day.
Every week for England, a new set of figures will be published showing the number of deaths that occur within 60 days of a positive test.
Deaths that occur after 60 days - such as those who have been in intensive care for many months - will also be added in if Covid-19 appears on the death certificate.
Prof Keith Neal, emeritus professor of the epidemiology of infectious diseases, from the University of Nottingham, said the two new measures were "sensible".
"The 28 days is widely used in many countries and England is now the same as the rest of the UK," he said.
"The previous measure of always being a Covid death, even if recovered, was unscientific.
"The 28 days is widely used in many countries and England is now the same as the rest of the UK," he said.
"The previous measure of always being a Covid death, even if recovered, was unscientific.
I suggest you check out the credentials of both Prof Keith Neal and Prof John Newton and tell me if they are Trump-like!
Thanks
2020-08-21 13:50:49
In reply to mikesiva
Very hesitant to respond to you in case you think I'm stalking you.
Please show me where I have defended Boris Johnson. Failure to do so will prove you are nothing more than a LIAR Mikey!
I agree the excess death numbers as provided by the ONS is higher than the current official numbers. This is mainly down to covid deaths in March and April when testing and the collating of death numbers were not up to scratch. Things have improved since which is something you can't bring yourself to acknowledge.
So yes, we do know about excess deaths in the UK. Now are you able to tell us about excess deaths in the US, Brazil, Spain, India etc?
Or is it only the UK that has excess death figures above the official numbers??
Or perhaps other countries don't report this as the ONS does?
Would like to know, Mr Expert on Covid deaths!
2020-08-21 14:38:33
In reply to NineMiles
I am sure those guys have stellar credentials.However so does Dr. Oz and Dr. Debra Birx..Johnny Cochrane was an outstanding lawyer who was highly respected.He of the "If the glove does not fit, you must acquit".My point is when you are at the top of any profession, you have to navigate the political arena and in some people it may cause you to shade the truth in order to stay in a powerful position.
Do you really think someone who died in a road traffic accident used to be counted as a Covid death?
2020-08-21 14:56:26
In reply to NineMiles
Now that I have read the link it is clear that you are being misled.An asseritive statement is made in the article
In England, there was no time limit. Someone who recovered from Covid-19 in March and died in a car crash in July would have been counted as a coronavirus death.
Sometime later in the article statements are made by icons in the Medical Profession.
Because you guys do not pay attention to detail you make the leap that those icons agree with that statement.
POPPYCOCK.
The only change I see is changing the death count from Covid from unlimited time to 28 days after the positive test.
In other words if I have a positive Covid test today and then 27 days later I die in a road traffic accident I can be counted as a Covid death according to this article.Is that true???
It is no more scientific,if it is in fact true
I would have thought that a Covid related death is a positive Covid test and a death not due to any discernible other cause such as a heart attack or pulmonary embolus but then again who is to say that those two causes are not related to their underlying Covid positivity.
In other words it is COMPLICATED and the SIMPLETON NONSENSE about traffic deaths is still CLASSIC DISTRACTION.
I PLEAD with you.THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT THE INFORMATION YOU GET FROM THESE PEOPLE BEFORE FORMING OPINIONS.
2020-08-21 15:02:22
In reply to Dukes
Do you really think someone who died in a road traffic accident used to be counted as a Covid death?
Yes I do. I don't think you have any idea how chaotic things were back in the early stages of the pandemic and the collation of figures.
For example, deaths in Nursing homes were not being counted...which they are now, and are backdated.
The above may be an extreme example to give but if you tested positive for coronavirus, recovered and died months later from an unrelated-covid cause, it was still being counted as a Covid death.
A note on the government's website read: "Currently the daily deaths measure counts all people who have tested positive for coronavirus and since died, with no cut-off between time of testing and date of death
.
By this PHE definition, no one with Covid in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness," Prof Heneghan says.
Dr Susan Hopkins, from Public Health England, said there was no agreed method of counting deaths from Covid-19.
"In England, we count all those that have died who had a positive Covid-19 test at any point, to ensure our data is as complete as possible.
"We must remember that this is a new and emerging infection and there is increasing evidence of long-term health problems for some of those affected."
"Now is the right time to review how deaths are calculated," Dr Hopkins said.
"In England, we count all those that have died who had a positive Covid-19 test at any point, to ensure our data is as complete as possible.
"We must remember that this is a new and emerging infection and there is increasing evidence of long-term health problems for some of those affected."
"Now is the right time to review how deaths are calculated," Dr Hopkins said.
Review into coronavirus death data in England This link is dated 17th July.
The review was then conducted and the revised method implemented on the 12 of August. Makes perfect sense to me!
What would be interesting is to find out how other developed countries count their covid deaths.
2020-08-21 15:07:09
In reply to Dukes
Now that I have read the link it is clear that you are being misled.An asseritive statement is made in the article
So I was right then, you hadn't read the article before jumping to conclusion...that's more Trump-like behaviour if I ever saw one... and coming from a medical practitioner who is so full of himself!
Hope you read the second link I've provided without bias, digest it and understand!
2020-08-21 15:37:49
In reply to NineMiles
No self-respecting doctor would ever make a statement like that.I did not have to read the link to know it was a throw away line to influence opinion.I am politically savvy enough to know that instantly.That is POLITICS not MEDICINE.I am good at both,I think.
In POLITICS you can tell when you are being misled by certain things that are omitted.Nowehre does it say that those doctors made any comment about traffic accidents.However most people read it and can easily end up thinking that the docs did.I saw Dr. Oz who is a highly qualified cardiologist do the same thing.He would talk about some evidence suggesting such and such so that lay people think it is definitive.
There is anecdotal evidence that some people may be helped by Hydroxychloroquine.
SUDDENLY BECOMES
Hydroxychloroquine cures people with Covid-19 according to World Famous Cardiologist.
All I am asking you to do is read and absorb what is being said with a SCEPTICAL EYE
2020-08-21 16:16:11
In reply to Dukes
I see, you have simply latched onto the 'road traffic accident' example in your arguments without appreciating the overall rationale behind the change in counting methodology.
I quoted a BBC source that said: In England, there was no time limit. Someone who recovered from Covid-19 in March and died in a car crash in July would have been counted as a coronavirus death.
You have not provided any evidence to suggest this is incorrect except to say one shouldn't believe it, and did so without even bothering to read the article.
To be honest with you Dupester, I will take the word of the BBC Health Editor over yours as to Health reports pertaining to England!
And your example of Hydroxychloroquine as comparable to this matter is utter BULLSHIT and you know it!
I do read, understand and form my own opinions just like everyone else. These may not necessarily align with yours, but that does not mean you are always right and I'm wrong.
Hope you are paying better attention to covid deaths in your neighbourhood as you are here!
2020-08-21 16:49:31
In reply to NineMiles
98 new cases in JA overnight. Please proceed Handrew!
2020-08-21 17:47:45
In reply to NineMiles
By merely changing from unlimited time to 28 days it only reduces the amount of "traffic accidents" being counted as Covid tests.So if you die from a traffic accident within 28 days you are a Covid death.
I am well aware of what is taking place in my neighborhood as we have a mini Trump as our Governor so I rarely leave my house as I value my life.
Actually I agree that everybody should be using the same matrices to document Covid deaths.I am simply saying that merely changing the time frame from unlimited to 28 days only marginally increases accuracy..
2020-08-21 17:50:42
In reply to Chrissy
There's a Caribbean thread. Handrew following sweet sweet TnT template, which didn't seem to be much of an issue for some here.
No matter which road Handrew tek, Handrew will get cuss.
2020-08-21 18:43:58
In reply to Chrissy
This thing is going to get far worse before it gets better with a 2nd wave and possibly a 3rd wave on the horizon.
I am fearful for African countries which appears to be following a different path to other parts of the world according to WHO. This may also apply to Caribbean countries but I'm not sure.
2020-08-21 18:54:08
In reply to Dukes
By merely changing from unlimited time to 28 days it only reduces the amount of "traffic accidents" being counted as Covid tests.So if you die from a traffic accident within 28 days you are a Covid death.
Road traffic accident again. Seriously, is that all you are getting for the reasons for changing the methodology?
RTA was only used to demonstrate the fallacy of the previous counting method.
Ok Dukes, I apologise for using 'road traffic accidents'. How about Cardiovascular disease, Dementia and Alzheimer disease, Cerebrovascular diseases, suicide, accidental poisoning etc etc.... does any of these work for you?
I am simply saying that merely changing the time frame from unlimited to 28 days only marginally increases accuracy..
I'll take that if it increases the accuracy, even if marginally!
2020-08-21 19:01:02
In reply to Dukes
I am well aware of what is taking place in my neighborhood as we have a mini Trump as our Governor so I rarely leave my house as I value my life.
I see...perhaps makes you paranoid even, to the extent that when you disagree with someone on an issue, your immediate response is to invoke Trump's name??
Get a grip of yourself man!
2020-08-22 16:57:19
56 more overnight - one more death.
2020-08-25 11:57:29
In reply to mikesiva
Bro, you notice that the only places that seeing a rise in infections in Europe are the places that Brits were allowed to vacation in?
2020-08-26 09:41:49
In reply to JahJah
Exactly!
The UK are doing other countries a favour when they place them on quarantine...there a lot of Brits walking around who don't know that they're transmitting coronavirus. The British excess death toll is over 61,000, at the latest tally at the beginning of August. It's far more than the official death toll. Again, that's probably true of most countries in the top ten.
The latest top ten official death tolls:
1) USA - 182,404
2) Brazil - 116,666
3) Mexico - 61,450
4) India - 59,612
5) UK - 41,449
6) Italy - 35,445
7) France - 30,544
Spain - 28,924
9) Peru - 28,001
10) Iran - 20,901
In the UK, the Office of National Statistics have released data which shows that the true coronavirus death toll has passed 55,000 since the start of the pandemic. So, if we make similar calculations with regards to the other countries in the top ten, we might get a truer picture of the death tolls.
2020-08-26 13:38:08
In reply to mikesiva
UK should be advising foreigners against coming to the Uk because they will be bringing it back home.
2020-08-27 16:48:11
WHO warns Europe is entering “tricky moment” as coronavirus cases climb
As some European countries have continued to report growth in covid-19 cases, governments are responding by tightening up restrictions and safety measures. France reported 5429 daily cases today, up from 3776 a week ago, and Italy counted 1366 cases, its biggest daily increase in more than three months and up against 642 a week ago. Daily numbers in other major European countries are relatively stable, with Spain at 7296, Germany at 1507 and the UK at 1048.
The French prime minister Jean Castex warned the country had seen an “undeniable surge” of cases and the epidemic “could become exponential”, with cases rising as quickly as they did in the early days of the pandemic. The virus is now circulating in 20 of the country’s 101 “departments”, up from two previously. With France’s reproduction number – the average number of people one infected person will likely infect – now at 1.4, Castex said masks will become mandatory in Paris. The 21-day Tour de France will still go ahead this Saturday.
The German government today rejected calls to relax restrictions, with a leaked plan saying private parties will be limited to 25 people and the anticipated end of a ban on large public gatherings in October will instead be extended to the end of the year.
As some European countries have continued to report growth in covid-19 cases, governments are responding by tightening up restrictions and safety measures. France reported 5429 daily cases today, up from 3776 a week ago, and Italy counted 1366 cases, its biggest daily increase in more than three months and up against 642 a week ago. Daily numbers in other major European countries are relatively stable, with Spain at 7296, Germany at 1507 and the UK at 1048.
The French prime minister Jean Castex warned the country had seen an “undeniable surge” of cases and the epidemic “could become exponential”, with cases rising as quickly as they did in the early days of the pandemic. The virus is now circulating in 20 of the country’s 101 “departments”, up from two previously. With France’s reproduction number – the average number of people one infected person will likely infect – now at 1.4, Castex said masks will become mandatory in Paris. The 21-day Tour de France will still go ahead this Saturday.
The German government today rejected calls to relax restrictions, with a leaked plan saying private parties will be limited to 25 people and the anticipated end of a ban on large public gatherings in October will instead be extended to the end of the year.
Covid-19 news: Europe faces ‘tricky moment’ as coronavirus cases climb
2020-08-27 18:45:55
UK removes Jamaica, Switzerland and Czech Rep from travel corridor list
Travellers in Switzerland, Jamaica and Czech Republic who return to the UK from 04:00 on Saturday are to be required to self-isolate for two weeks.
The UK government said the move was needed to keep UK infection rates down.
The UK government said the move was needed to keep UK infection rates down.
2020-08-27 18:50:42
In reply to NineMiles
That first link asked me if I want to set my own cookie preference or accept their recommended list....i chose set my own and it went straight to the article....so they are trying to get something in with that recommendation.
2020-08-27 19:04:28
In reply to Ayenmol
That's normal...all new websites you visit in the EU should ask you that. Its a GDPR cookie consent requirement.
At least it didn't block you the way that Yankee website posted by Dukes blocked me yesterday.
2020-08-27 19:12:45
In reply to NineMiles
Thanks...the fact that it allowed me in witb no change makes me feel that whatever they have in their recommended package is somehow avoidable and unnecessary and needs consent to do something beyond what I would want. I notice that on all the European sites each time I visit they ask to allow cookies.....nut this wants you to specifically agree to a recommended cookie preference.
Odd.
2020-08-27 19:44:36
by November 2 nd we will have 250000 deaths in the US.
2020-08-28 19:41:43
WHO interactive map for Covid-19 in Europe
The World Health Organisation (WHO) has released a new interactive map that shows how bad coronavirus is in different areas of Europe.
The map shows Covid-19 statistics broken down by areas within different countries, making it possible to spot regions where case of the virus are increasing.
On Friday the map showed hotspots of the virus across Spain and France, with clusters clearly obvious around large cities including Paris, Madrid and Barcelona.
The map shows Covid-19 statistics broken down by areas within different countries, making it possible to spot regions where case of the virus are increasing.
On Friday the map showed hotspots of the virus across Spain and France, with clusters clearly obvious around large cities including Paris, Madrid and Barcelona.
2020-08-29 22:32:38
In reply to camos
Brazil finally catch up to, and pass the USA in terms of deaths.
2020-09-04 09:48:50
In reply to JahJah
According to the official top ten death toll, the USA is still ahead of Brazil...for now.
1) USA - 191,058
2) Brazil - 124,729
3) India - 68,569
4) Mexico - 66,329
5) UK - 41,527
6) Italy - 35,507
7) France - 30,706
Peru - 29,405
9) Spain - 29,234
10) Iran - 21,926
Of course, as we've previously discussed, official figures need to taken with a huge dose of skepticism. Peru's toll overtakes Spain's....
2020-09-04 10:29:07
In reply to mikesiva
are the numbers coming out of the UK to be believed?
2020-09-04 10:50:18
In reply to camos
Oh boy, yuh trying to stir up shit again?
We all know what Mikey's views are about the UK....you know better than to expect an objective response!
2020-09-04 12:04:17
In reply to mikesiva
Sorry, I was talking about per capita (586). They zoomed past USA (577). Not long before both pass the UK (611).
2020-09-04 13:08:19
Maybe it will change tomorrow but meanwhile poor people in Africa doing nicely, thank you. Mainly mild infections and asymptomatic cases. Very low and declining death rates.
The experts are confounded. They are searching for the previous covid infections which could have helped to immunise Africans in Africa.
BTW only genuine Africans, thank you.. No Brazilian Africans or American Africans.
Maybe Jamaican Africans.
2020-09-08 08:34:11
The number of new infection cases are on the rise in the UK with the 7-day average at 2032.
2,948 new cases recorded yesterday Monday 7 Sept.
The rise in new cases are mainly among the younger population who are not adhering to social distancing rules and then passing the virus on to the older population.
European countries have seen the numbers steadily climb up over the the past two weeks.
We are on the verge of the 2nd wave with weather getting colder!
2020-09-09 11:55:59
In reply to camos
Are any of these official figures to be believed?
The more accurate figure is the excess deaths figure. The UK excess deaths figure stood at 58k according to the British Medical Journal. Half of those deaths occurred in care homes. As JahJah pointed out, the UK has a very high per capita death toll.
The UK are now reducing their social bubble from 30 to six in response to rising infection rates.
2020-09-09 17:40:24
There seems to be a misconception here that the excess deaths figure are all down to covid-19.
Well it isn't! For the not well informed who pretend they are experts on the subject, let me tell you some of these excess deaths are not a direct result of covid.
Back in March/April/May, hospital admissions for non-covid patients dropped drastically. The focus was on covid-19.
Indeed hospital beds were freed up by discharging patients early in order to accommodate covid patients.
A lot of people were even frightened to visit hospitals for non-covid related ailments and many were not seen to at all. Some even had their cancer treatments put on hold.
Hell, you couldn't even visit your local GP as all doctor surgeries were shut. One of the doctors at my local surgery died of the coronavirus.
You could only speak to the docs on the phone and if lucky via video call.
It is therefore incorrect to assume all of the excess deaths are entirely due to covid.
I am certain the same applied to other countries but you will only read on this thread of excess deaths as it applies to the UK and nowhere else!
And if you didn't know, now you know!
2020-09-09 18:51:55
In reply to NineMiles
The BMJ have attributed 52,000 of the 58,000 excess deaths to coronavirus, because that's what's on the death certificates. The Office of National Statistics also uses that 52k figure. Again, because coronavirus is on the death certificates. And 52k is a lot more than 41k.
Now, what makes the excess deaths figure important, is because of indirect deaths caused by coronavirus. Operations and cancer treatments have been cancelled, or sick patients have been afraid to go to hospital, so they've died indirectly because of coronavirus.
You need to stop swallowing Tory propaganda....
The excess deaths figure is far more important than the vastly understated official figure of 41k.
This is what Richard Horton, the editor of the Lancet, had to say about how Trump and Johnson mishandled the pandemic:
'Now Horton is out with a new book, “The Covid-19 Catastrophe: What’s Gone Wrong and How to Stop it Happening Again.” It is an angry work, thrumming with righteous disbelief over mistakes made in the past six months. He accuses President Trump of a “crime against humanity” for cutting World Health Organization funding during a pandemic. He blames British Prime Minister Boris Johnson for thousands of excess deaths.'
The excess deaths figures are important to medical people
Now, contrast the UK's whopping excess deaths figure to that in South Korea:
'South Korea has recorded no "meaningful" excess mortality during the coronavirus pandemic, official data showed Wednesday. A total of 3,213 more people than usual have died in South Korea since January, according to the data released by Statistics Korea. However, Statistics Korea said there has been no "meaningful excess deaths" from the pandemic because more elderly people than usual died in the winter season.'
Big difference between 3k and 58k
South Korea is a country which did a much better job of handling this pandemic. Countries that did a better job of handling coronavirus have a lower excess deaths figure than those who screwed up. Simply because life got back to normal quicker in the countries with competent leadership. In Japan, my son reports that life is back to normal. In the UK, it's not.
In Japan excess deaths have actually fallen compared to a year ago
Unfortunately, I haven't yet found a site to compare excess deaths figures worldwide, but I'm willing to bet that all the countries in the top ten have excess deaths figures well in excess of their official stats....
2020-09-09 20:03:16
In reply to mikesiva
So the excess deaths from covid is actually 52k now instead of the 58k as have you previously been portraying on this thread. At one point you even said the excess death is over 60k.
Your post of 21 Aug:
The UK's excess deaths figure between the start of the coronavirus pandemic and the start of August is over 60,000, so that's the real death toll.
From 60k down to 58k and now 52k. Good, we are getting somewhere with you!
This is not tory propaganda but a matter of being fair and unbiased in your reporting. This govt facked up big time at the start of the pandemic and will have a lot to answer for when we have an inquiry and the govt ministers will have a lot to answer for. Their inactivity and indecision has caused thousands of death and they must answer for them!
Would you also like to provide excess death numbers for Spain, France, Belgium, the USA and other Western countries not named Germany??
Comparing the UK's covid cases to S Korea and Japan is laughable. Do you even know why most far-east countries handled the pandemic better than western countries?
Would you like me to explain it to you??
Let me know if you don't know and I will let you know what you don't know!
2020-09-09 20:09:47
In reply to NineMiles
My son lives in Japan, so I don't need the likes of you to explain why Far East countries have done a better job of handling coronavirus. Every week we talk, he marvels at what a mess Western countries have made of handling coronavirus.
Western European countries have screwed up, including France, Spain, Italy and Belgium. You can look up your own excess deaths figures for them. Go ahead, you know how to use the internet, don't you? Comparing them to the US and UK is comparing countries who screwed up with each other.
You might want to only acknowledge the 52k that have coronavirus on their death certificates, but medical journals like the Lancet consider the entire figure of excess deaths (58k) to be the important figure. Because the extra 6,000 are most likely indirect deaths resulting from the pandemic.
Yes, excess deaths have fallen in the UK from 60k to 58k. But that's hardly something to shout about, with autumn and winter coming.
2020-09-09 20:18:13
In reply to mikesiva
So if you know all that idiot, what was the point of comparing covid deaths in Japan and S Korea to the UK.
Oh yeah, you have an agenda!
Carry on with your facked-up mind!
2020-09-09 20:46:31
Nature gathered figures from several databases maintained by demographers, as well as from trackers run by The Financial Times and The Economist, two of the most comprehensive data sets on excess deaths. Although the coverage is not universal — it lists 32 countries (largely in Europe) and 4 major world cities — it includes many nations with major outbreaks and comprises about two-thirds of the official COVID-19 death toll up to the end of July.
The Nature analysis shows that there are huge variations in excess deaths between countries (see ‘More than expected’). In the United States and Spain — two of the hardest-hit countries so far — about 25% and 35%, respectively, of the excess death toll is not reflected in official COVID-19 death statistics. But in other places, the mismatch is much greater, such as in Peru, where 74% of the excess deaths are not explained by reported COVID-19 deaths. And some countries, such as Bulgaria, have even experienced negative excess deaths during the pandemic so far — meaning that, despite the virus, fewer people have died this year than expected.
The Nature analysis shows that there are huge variations in excess deaths between countries (see ‘More than expected’). In the United States and Spain — two of the hardest-hit countries so far — about 25% and 35%, respectively, of the excess death toll is not reflected in official COVID-19 death statistics. But in other places, the mismatch is much greater, such as in Peru, where 74% of the excess deaths are not explained by reported COVID-19 deaths. And some countries, such as Bulgaria, have even experienced negative excess deaths during the pandemic so far — meaning that, despite the virus, fewer people have died this year than expected.
How many people has the coronavirus killed?
Coronavirus in South Asia: Is low testing hiding scale of the outbreak?
2020-09-10 08:15:19
In reply to NineMiles
You really are an arrogant Pom, aren't you?
South Korea, Australia, New Zealand and Japan have better stats because they reacted much better to the outbreak. At a time when SK were building up testing capacity in preparation for the pandemic, Boris Johnson was going around shaking hands, and telling business people that Britain was open for business. The Tories starting track and trace in March, when superspreader Walsh came back, and then inexplicably abandoned it in favour of herd immunity. As a result, a lot of people died who didn't have to.
Here's a comparison between how a competent South Korea tackled coronavirus, in contrast to a negligent UK govt:
The Country that beat the Virus
When the WHO was urging the world to follow the SK example, Johnson and Trump chose to ignore that advice. I hold the Johnson government responsible for killing my friend in Birmingham, as well as cc.com poster Banner, because of their negligence. In the same way, I hold Trump responsible for killing jala. I don't forgive either man for that.
And you call that an agenda...typical! You can go back to chatting your crap again...I will revisit this thread in a week's time to do another update. Not until then.
There's a reason why these countries are in the top ten....
1) USA - 195,239 official deaths
2) Brazil - 128,653
3) India - 75,119
4) Mexico - 69,095
5) UK - 41,594
6) Italy - 35,577
7) France - 30,794
Peru - 30,236
9) Spain - 29,628
10) Iran - 22,669
In the past week, the official death tolls for India have gone up by 7k, while the USA, Mexico and Brazil have increased by 3-5k, and Peru, Iran and Spain by less than 1k. The UK, France and Italy figures are down to less than 100.
2020-09-16 11:46:19
The latest official top ten death tolls....
1) USA - 199,410 official deaths
2) Brazil - 132,297
3) India - 81,498
4) Mexico - 71,049
5) UK - 41,664
6) Italy - 35,633
7) France - 30,950
Peru - 30,812
9) Spain - 29,848
10) Iran - 23,453
These ten countries have been in the top ten for a while now. Colombia is trying to break through, though. The US are on the verge of 200k official deaths, while Spain are not far off 30k.
India have had 6k deaths in the past week, while the USA and Brazil have 4k official fatalities, and Mexico 2k. Peru and Iran have less than 1k official deaths, while the UK, Italy and France have kept their official death tolls to 100-200 a week.
2020-09-16 14:02:42
In reply to mikesiva
And a Humpty Dumpty for President.
2020-09-24 03:28:28
America has succumb to being nothing more than pathetic on the world stage Link Text
2020-09-24 10:58:09
Man, this is really disturbing. And still we don't have a vaccine or a medication. It's so strange to see humankind that desperate. We were planning to live in Mars last year and now a stupid flu is killing us. After the first news about the coronavirus was revealed I have left the US and staying at my real estate in Cannes since then. I think it was the best decision I have ever made.
2020-09-28 09:33:19
In reply to backstorm
France isn't exactly doing a great job of dealing with coronavirus.
Now, the world has past the grim landmark of a million official deaths from coronavirus.
The top ten official death toll....
1) USA - 209,354
2) Brazil - 141,503
3) India - 95,162
4) Mexico - 76,243
5) UK - 41,988
6) Italy - 35,835
7) Peru - 32,142
France - 31,727
9) Spain - 31,232
10) Iran - 25,589
The US have now passed the 200k landmark. In the past fortnight, India, the US and Brazil have registered about 10k official deaths, while Mexico have about 5k deaths. Spain, Iran, France and Peru have 1-2k deaths, while the UK and Italy have had another 200-300 deaths.
"Separate figures published by the UK's statistics agencies show there have now been nearly 57,900 deaths registered in the UK where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."
UK coronavirus deaths at ONS up from 52k to 58k
2020-10-07 09:57:46
From July to October, the same ten countries are dominating the top ten official death tolls list....
1) USA - 215,849
2) Brazil - 147,571
3) India - 104,591
4) Mexico - 82,348
5) UK - 42,445
6) Italy - 36,030
7) Peru - 32,914
Spain 32,486
9) France - 32,365
10) Iran - 27,419
There's been no change to the top ten countries in this list in the past three months. In the past week, India have about 10k deaths. Mexico, Brazil, the USA have 5-6k more official deaths, while Iran, Peru and Spain have about 1-2k deaths. The UK and France have about 500 more deaths, and Italy 100-200.
Just looking at the UK, the official death toll has increased significantly. The past week, it's gone up by 500, while the two weeks before that, it was 200-300. France have reduced their deaths, while the the UK's numbers have increased.
2020-10-07 10:24:32
USA has done a lot more testing than other countries. Communist countries have not disclosed their real numbers.
2020-10-07 15:31:08
There is no way those Brazilian numbers are correct.
2020-10-14 10:06:18
In reply to carl0002
Well, these are the official government stats, and almost every country's official stats understate the true death toll. For example, the UK govt's official stats say that 43k have died from coronavirus, while the stats from the UK's Office of National Statistics put the figure at 58k. I think that we need to add about a third to every govt's stats.
1) USA - 220,900
2) Brazil - 151,063
3) India - 110,645
4) Mexico - 84,420
5) UK - 43,018
6) Italy - 36,246
7) Peru - 33,419
Spain - 33,204
9) France - 32,942
10) Iran - 29,070
In the past week, the USA, India and Brazil have clocked up another 4-6k official deaths, while Mexico and Iran have had another 2k. The UK, Spain, France and Peru have had another 500-700 official deaths since last week. Italy have only had 200 deaths in the past week.
2020-10-14 15:25:51
In reply to mikesiva
Brazil might be under counting
2020-10-26 10:41:02
In reply to carl0002
I suspect all the countries in the top ten are under-counting....
And the top ten have ramped up the numbers, and put quite a bit of distance between them and 11th placed Colombia.
1) USA - 230,510
2) Brazil - 157,163
3) India - 119,030
4) Mexico - 88,924
5) UK - 44,896
6) Italy - 37,338
7) France - 34,761
Spain - 34,752
9) Peru - 34,149
10) Iran - 32,616
In the past fortnight, India and the USA have about 9-10k more official deaths, while Mexico, Iran and Brazil have 3-6k more. Italy, France, Spain and the UK have about 1-2k more deaths. These are all alarming increases in the top ten.
2020-10-26 11:10:49
Can we get a sticky for this? In memory of maj. It would be such a tragedy if he succumbed to the virus.
2020-10-26 11:16:40
In reply to nitro
Per capita, USA is about 19th in testing.
12th in cases and 10th in deaths.
2020-10-26 11:22:14
In reply to mikesiva
Bruv, the most under counting must be taking place in China...BY FAR. Y'all believe DEM mofos?
2020-10-29 19:42:48
MIA:
Maj
Doosra
Narper
Nurse Devin
who else?
2020-10-29 19:48:30
maj 3/13/20, 10:19:25 PM
Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities..
Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities..
This one aged nicely.
2020-11-03 10:54:43
In reply to SnoopDog
I can't speak to the veracity of the figures provided by China and North Korea. But the figures for the top ten do look grim.
The latest official top ten deaths:
1) USA - 236,997 official deaths
2) Brazil - 160,272
3) India - 123,139
4) Mexico - 92,100
5) UK - 46,853
6) Italy - 39,059
7) France - 37,435
Spain - 36,257
9) Iran - 35,738
10) Peru - 34,585
In the past week, the USA have registered about 6k official deaths, while Brazil, Mexico, the UK, Italy, France, Spain, Iran and India have 2k-4k deaths. Peru have reduced their deaths to less than 500 in the last week. The top ten are way ahead of 11th and 12th placed Colombia and Argentina.
2020-11-03 11:44:45
In reply to mikesiva
Let me speak for the veracity and di audacity of dem. China lie nuh rass. Doh forget why we're all in this mess to begin with.
Like Capleton seh: "Bun out di eagle, di dragon and di bear." lol
Stop giving China a pass (perhaps because dem not white). Dem dutty like di rest.
2020-11-03 18:45:58
In reply to JahJah
Hey, I didn't even start this thread!
All I am doing is providing weekly updates from the official figures.
I will leave it to you guys to question the existing figures. Feel free to knock China!
BTW, I don't think India are white.
2020-11-03 18:57:29
In reply to mikesiva
Indians are classified as Caucasians by anthropologists though. Haha
Speaking of India...
They reported 120K+ deaths. China comes in at 4.6K
Whose figures would you question?
2020-11-03 19:02:39
In reply to JahJah
No argument there!
All these figures should be questioned to one degree or another.
Sometimes I think it's a waste of time posting these figures.
Except North Korea. Their stats are amazing!
2020-11-03 20:01:48
In reply to mikesiva
what happened to Maj?
2020-11-03 21:21:25
In reply to googley
WTF is maj?
2020-11-03 21:27:59
In reply to googley
If Maj don't show up after the election we can assume the worst has happened.
2020-11-09 14:19:40
Its true when people say America is a third world country with a gucci belt Link Text
2020-11-09 23:38:22
In reply to maj the vaj
No such thing as too few deaths.
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
Ohhh how well this has aged.
2020-11-10 11:19:35
In reply to googley
That's the million dollar question....
Hopefully, now that Pfizer seems to have made a breakthrough with the vaccine, these morbid figures will come under control soon.
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 244,449 official deaths
2) Brazil - 162,638
3) India - 127,104
4) Mexico - 95,225
5) UK - 49,238
6) Italy - 41,750
7) France - 40,987
Spain - 39,345
9) Iran - 39,202
10) Peru - 34,943
In the past week, there have been another 7k official deaths in the USA, who have bene way ahead of the rest. About 2k-4k died in India, Mexico, the UK, Italy, France, Spain, Iran and Brazil from coronavirus. Peru have reduced their weekly deaths to less than 400, which means that Argentina and Colombia are on the verge of knocking them out of the top ten.
2020-11-17 11:17:29
In reply to SnoopDog
We finally have a new entry in the top ten, for the first time since July. Argentina have replaced Peru in the official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 252,652
2) Brazil - 166,067
3) India - 130,559
4) Mexico - 98,861
5) UK - 52,147
6) Italy - 45,733
7) France - 45,054
Iran - 42,461
9) Spain - 41,253
10) Argentina - 35,727
Over the past week, another 8k official deaths occurred in the USA. In Brazil, Mexico, the UK, Italy, France, Spain, Iran and India, another 2k-4k deaths were registered.
2020-11-17 19:57:53
meanwhile, Trump's Covid czar sez to let granma and grandad die
#murca
where's maj??
2020-11-17 20:40:50
In reply to VIX
where's maj??
Some here are speculating he may have succumbed to Covid19 as he once mentioned his wife is in the health field.
I think he's very much alive and is too cowardly to show his face here, especially after starting this moronic thread.
2020-11-17 21:22:50
In reply to SnoopDog
Maj changed handle!
2020-11-17 21:28:40
In reply to googley
No, he's not poster 'black'.
2020-11-24 11:46:24
In reply to SnoopDog
Russia pressing hard to replace Argentina in the official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 263,701 official deaths
2) Brazil - 169,541
3) India - 134,254
4) Mexico - 101,926
5) UK - 55,230
6) Italy - 50,453
7) France - 49,232
Iran - 45,255
9) Spain - 43,131
10) Argentina - 37,122
Over the past week, the US have clocked up 11k official deaths, while Italy, France, Brazil, Mexico, the UK, Spain, Iran and India have registered 2k-5k deaths. Argentina have notched up just under 2k deaths.
2020-11-24 12:01:12
In reply to mikesiva
But again, there's that per capita thing. Argentina is 818 per million people. Russia is 254, so it's not happening on that front.
All India, their per capita number is child's play at 97.
The worst hit country isn't even in the top 10 in overall body count due to a population of just under 12 mil, but their per capita count is far and away the worst in the world at 1,357.
2020-11-24 15:21:04
In reply to JahJah
Yep! Agreed.
Are you talking about Belgium?
2020-11-24 18:05:10
No wonder BeatDBalls is missing around here.
Rich New Yorkers are paying people $80 an hour to wait in long lines for them at COVID-19 testing centers
Some rich New Yorkers aren't keen on waiting in line for a COVID-19 test — so they're paying other people to do it on their behalf.
"This year, there are some Taskers choosing to wait in line for clients seeking COVID-19 tests," TaskRabbit said in a statement sent to Business Insider.
"Because details of all tasks are shared by clients in advance, Taskers know the types of lines in which they will be waiting, and the decision about whether to accept the task lies with the Tasker.
"We encourage Taskers to not accept jobs for which they aren't comfortable for any reason."
"Because details of all tasks are shared by clients in advance, Taskers know the types of lines in which they will be waiting, and the decision about whether to accept the task lies with the Tasker.
"We encourage Taskers to not accept jobs for which they aren't comfortable for any reason."
$80 per hour is good money.
2020-12-02 12:12:18
In reply to Drapsey
Russia replace Argentina in the official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 276,979 official deaths
2) Brazil - 173,862
3) India - 138,159
4) Mexico - 106,765
5) UK - 59,051
6) Italy - 56,361
7) France - 53,506
Iran - 48,628
9) Spain - 45,511
10) Russia - 41,053
Over the past week, the official death toll in the USA increased by 13k. In Brazil, the UK, Mexico, Italy, France and India, the weekly increase was 4k-6k. In Iran and Spain, the increase was 2k-3k.
2020-12-14 10:58:07
The death tolls continue to soar. The UK has gone up considerably, but Italy's tally is going up even faster. Italy have taken fifth place from the UK.
1) USA - 306,459 official deaths
2) Brazil - 181,419
3) India - 143,393
4) Mexico - 113,953
5) Italy - 64,520
6) UK - 64,170
7) France - 57,911
Iran - 52,447
9) Spain - 47,624
10) Russia - 47,391
In the past two weeks, the official death toll in the USA increased by 30k. In Brazil, Mexico, the UK, Italy, Iran, Russia and India, the fortnightly increase was 4k-8k. Spain have reduced their death toll over the past fortnight to 2k.
2020-12-14 19:23:51
In reply to mikesiva
Elections and post celebrations I think did not help.
2020-12-14 20:19:03
In reply to nick2020
Elections and post celebrations I think did not help.
The "I'm a big fat Dotard loser" rallies didn't help either.
2020-12-15 16:25:58
In reply to mikesiva
In the past two weeks, the official death toll in the USA increased by 30k. In Brazil, Mexico, the UK, Italy, Iran, Russia and India, the fortnightly increase was 4k-8k. Spain have reduced their death toll over the past fortnight to 2k.
I am almost sure those numbers for Brazil are undercounted. Even in the US it is possible the numbers are undercounted since the Whitehouse took over the data reporting function. De Santes set up a sting operation on a Data Scientist in Florida, what do you think he is hiding? By the afternoon of January 21 it might shock you some of the real stats you are going to hear.
2020-12-15 21:00:11
In reply to carl0002
It's not just possible. All countries in the top ten ARE under counting.
For example, the official deaths for the UK are 64k.
However, the number of British deaths with coronavirus on the death certificate is 76k.
The number of British excess deaths at this time of the year is 79k.
2020-12-15 23:59:22
In reply to mikesiva
Having coronavirus on the death certificate does not mean that it was the final disease or condition leading to the death even though it may have contributed to it
2020-12-16 08:48:10
In reply to Maispwi
While that may be true, I can only speak for the UK, which is where I live. A friend of ours in Birmingham was very ill in April, and a doctor came to her house, and diagnosed her with coronavirus. Testing was sparse, and only done in hospital. She died before she went into hospital. Consequently, she's not in the government's official 64k figures, but she's in the Office of National Statistics 76k.
Hence, why I don't dismiss the ONS 76k figure. I've spoken to friends who've lost loved ones in similar circumstances.
2020-12-16 10:58:21
In reply to mikesiva
That's true everywhere
2020-12-22 10:57:08
In reply to Chrissy
True.
The official top ten death tolls make for grim reading.
1) USA - 326,772 official deaths
2) Brazil - 187,322
3) India - 146,145
4) Mexico - 118,598
5) Italy - 69,214
6) UK - 67,616
7) France - 60,900
Iran - 53,816
9) Russia - 51,351
10) Spain - 49,260
Over the past week, the official death toll in the US has increased by 20k, way ahead of the rest. In Brazil, Italy and Mexico, the numbers have increased by 5k-6k. In India, France, Russia and the UK, the numbers are in the region of 3k-4k a week. Iran and Spain have reduced their death tolls to 2k-1k this week.
2020-12-22 14:06:21
In reply to Chrissy
That's true everywhere
Exactly, but our resident wannabe statistician only dwells on the UK's excess death figures and only because the ONS, a UK governmental department openly publishes them!
No curiosity as to why other countries don't publish their excess deaths.
2020-12-22 16:19:50
In reply to NineMiles
Other countries do publish their excess death figures, you moron.
If you take a good look you can find them. And their margins are very similar to the UK.
Up to October, for example, the excess deaths figure in the USA was 280k. By that same month the excess deaths figure in the EU was 170k higher than normal.
I only talk about the UK excess deaths because I live in the UK and I use it as an example.
Typical Brit! Everybody's hiding the truth except us.
2020-12-22 16:28:02
what about a report a few months back that said the UK death toll is much higher than the published figures?
2020-12-22 17:00:45
In reply to mikesiva
You calling me a moron, you facking imbecile!
One just has to read this thread and all you ever quoted here is the UK's excess deaths. If you are aware of other countries excess deaths why have you not quoted them until now? And don't you use that jackassery excuse that you live in the UK.
This thread started about the US covid cases and it has since been about the global pandemic situation, you facking jackass!
You don't only post about UK covid cases here!
Now go sort out my Christmas presents at the Amazon depot where you work and stop wasting time here talking shite, you stupid jackass!!
2020-12-22 20:29:56
In reply to NineMiles
you guys need to go and shop for essentials and stockpile, winter could be rough with this and the exit.
2020-12-23 11:01:05
In reply to camos
Don't you worry your little head about us...stories of the UK's demise are greatly exaggerated!
2020-12-23 13:27:45
In reply to NineMiles I have family in Coventry and Birmingham.
2020-12-23 21:00:34
China set to be the only developed nation who will have an economy that actually grows and improve by the end of 2020. All other developed nations (including America) are seeing a contraction of their economy and record high rates of unemployment due to the pandemic. China wins 2020 for sure
2020-12-24 18:34:59
In reply to TriniStar
and the more the American economy contracts and China's economy expands, every year the GDP gap between both economies get smaller and smaller each year
2020-12-25 18:35:43
In reply to TriniStar
The same China that lost half or was it three-quarters of their population to Covid?
The remaining 10 people in China are miracle workers!
2020-12-25 18:42:18
In reply to Halliwell
yeah that same China you read in the American fairy tale story books that is figment of your imagination
2020-12-25 18:44:07
In reply to Halliwell
The same China that lost half or was it three-quarters of their population to Covid?
The remaining 10 people in China are miracle workers!
Christmas day not done yet and you done drunk talking shit
2020-12-25 19:27:09
hmmmm
China to be the only economy with positive growth in 2020, says IMF report
China continues to be the only economy in the world to show positive growth in 2020 as its GDP is predicted to expand 1.9 percent this year, according to the latest economic outlook released by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) on Tuesday.
Thanks to a faster-than-expected recovery, China's growth will accelerate to 8.2 percent next year, the IMF said in the World Economic Outlook.
IMF Chief Economist Gita Gopinath said China was pulling up the global numbers, and without China "cumulative growth for 2020 and 2021 is negative." Link Text
2020-12-31 09:53:32
In reply to camos
Ignore NineMilesofCrap...he's just a self-deluded Brit, who thinks his Beloved Tory government is doing a good job. It's dire and scary in the UK right now. Yesterday, there were 981 official deaths - a new daily record.
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 349,595 official deaths
2) Brazil - 193,875
3) India - 148,774
4) Mexico - 123,845
5) Italy - 73,604
6) UK - 72,548
7) France - 64,381
Russia - 56,426
9) Iran - 55,095
10) Spain - 50,689
In the past week, the official death toll in the US increased by a whopping 23k! In Brazil, Italy, the UK, France, Russia and Mexico, the numbers went up by 4k-6k. The picture was more promising in India, Spain and Iran, where the death tallies increased by just 1k-2k.
2020-12-31 18:36:43
In reply to mikesiva
Idiot, you can't make an argument so you resort to telling LIES! Show me where I have said the Tory gov't is doing a good job.
You have so much blind hatred for the UK that it even seems you enjoy seeing increases in the covid death rates.
BTW, can you learn how to post the Covid death numbers without the smiley emoji for eighth place? It really is not that difficult!
2021-01-13 11:40:24
In reply to NineMilesofCrap
The UK at least have now got a grip on the situation and new cases are falling unlike in many other countries around the world!
You this, idiot, prematurely praising the Tory government for a job well done?
I don't do favours to please Tory apologists. The number eight emoji remains.
The latest top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 389,621 official deaths
2) Brazil - 204,726
3) India - 151,564
4) Mexico - 135,682
5) UK - 83,203
6) Italy - 79,819
7) France - 68,802
Russia - 63,370
9) Iran - 56,360
10) Spain - 52,683
Within the past fortnight, the US have increased their official death toll by a massive 40k! In Brazil, the UK and Mexico, the death toll went up by a worrying 11k-12k. In Italy, Russia and France, the death toll rose by 4k-7k. In India, Spain and Iran, the rise in the death toll was restricted to 1k-3k in the past two weeks.
2021-01-13 17:21:50
In reply to mikesiva
You have got to be the most deceitful and mudderfacking jackass on this forum. If you are going to quote me, do so in the correct context.
You are quoting a post I made back in August when the daily death numbers in the UK had dropped to single and low double digit numbers.
NineMiles13/08/2020, 15:33:58
In reply to JahJah
I'm more inclined to put it down to sheer incompetence than anything else. The pandemic should have been handled a lot better from the start.
The UK at least have now got a grip on the situation and new cases are falling unlike in many other countries around the world!
In reply to JahJah
I'm more inclined to put it down to sheer incompetence than anything else. The pandemic should have been handled a lot better from the start.
The UK at least have now got a grip on the situation and new cases are falling unlike in many other countries around the world!
I have always said the gov't has mishandled the pandemic right from the outset.
Look you dumbass, I am an active member of the Labour Party and a fee paying one at that. What political party are you affiliated with? I know you are a Corbyn-battylicker, but are you a member of any recognised political party? I expect not. You are nothing more than a loudmouth and a pretender.
You have a twisted and messed up mind. If anyone disagrees with Corbyn that makes them a Blairite or a Tory.
For the Yanks here, it's like if you disagree with Bernie Sanders then that makes you a Trump supporter. There is no middle ground. How dumb is that! What a simpleton...Must be all those late nights working in the Amazon warehouse shifting parcels that has screwed up your facked up brain!
This pandemic has wreaked havoc all over the world and you seem to enjoy it... well at least in the case of the UK.
Case and death numbers have increased alarmingly all over Europe and even countries that handled the first wave very well have been hit severely during the second wave.
Take Germany for example where death rates during this wave has been very high and on par with the UK, Italy, France etc... But you don't see that... you only focus on the top 10 as if this is just a football game.
BTW, have you figured out how to work out per capita death rates, you stupid son of a bitch!
2021-01-13 17:24:53
In reply to mikesiva
I don't do favours to please Tory apologists. The number eight emoji remains.
You stupid moron...it was an advice, not a favour.
Posting smiling emojis against pandemic death numbers is apparently an appropriate thing to do in that twisted mind of yours. What a Jackass!
2021-01-14 04:39:32
In reply to maj the vaj
This thread aged like milk.
Since the date it was started by this dotard imbecile 370,000+ have died in Murica from Covid19, the Dotard has lost the election, the Dems control both houses, the Dotard tried a coup, the Dotard has been impeached - again, and the nation is still waiting for the roll out of the health care plan the Dotard promised.
2021-01-19 19:08:48
In reply to mikesiva
I think we will see the real Covid19 numbers in the U.S. after Biden takes office. The Dotard's administration more than likely have been covering up the actual numbers of infections and deaths to mitigate their own incompetency and ineptitude.
The real numbers will make for grim reading.
2021-01-19 21:09:31
In reply to SnoopDog
I remembered when they took away the responsibility of counting the numbers from CDC and hand it to the whitehouse. These numbers might be seriously undercounted.
2021-01-19 21:49:32
In reply to SnoopDog
You know..there's something to be said about being a half decent human being. The loser was just a nasty piece of work. Don't any deep psychological analysis from some social scientist to see. Honest folk should have been appalled by the guy.
I was having this argument with a colleague (who supports him) when he won the election ...and I raised the very issue of his failed businesses and his reputation for stiffing contractors, blatant lying etc and that colleague said to be, that I should not talk about his success or lack thereof...because he won the ultimate prize of the US presidency....and I told him to stop counting his chickens...the Orangeman's story is not done...it is still being written. Let's see how it all unfolds. Well...his departure is ignominious to say the least ..and he may well end up worse off because of the presidency.
2021-01-27 11:21:56
In reply to SnoopDog
The real numbers make for grim reading on both the US and the UK. In the UK, they've just notched up 100k official deaths.
Top ten official death tolls:
1) USA - 435,452 official deaths
2) Brazil - 218,918
3) India - 153,751
4) Mexico - 152,016
5) UK - 100,162
6) Italy - 86,422
7) France - 74,106
Russia - 71,076
9) Iran - 57,560
10) Spain - 56,799
In the past fortnight, the US have registered a mammoth 46k further deaths. In Brazil, the UK and Mexico, the official death tolls went up by a disturbing 14k-17k. In Italy, Russia, Spain and France, there were 4k-8k official deaths. However, in India and Iran, they've been able to restrict the increase to under 3k in the past two weeks.
Anyone interested in checking out deaths per capita by country can check out this site.
1) Belgium - 1,818 deaths per million
2) Slovenia - 1,631
3) UK - 1,495
4) Czechia - 1,463
5) Italy - 1,433
6) Bosnia - 1,399
7) North Macedonia - 1,349
USA - 1,289
9) Bulgaria - 1,278
10) Modova - 1,272
If you're interested in recent death rates, such as deaths per million in the last seven days, that same site has this:
1) UK - 102.55
2) Czechia - 74.79
3) Slovenia - 71.36
4) Panama - 52.99
5) Hungary - 50.97
2021-02-12 11:14:18
In reply to carl0002
I think it's a fair assumption to make that all the countries in the top ten of this list are undercounting deaths....
The latest top ten official death tolls:
1) USA - 486,922 official deaths
2) Brazil - 236,397
3) Mexico - 171,234
4) India - 155,484
5) UK - 115,529
6) Italy - 92,729
7) France - 80,803
Russia - 79,194
9) Germany - 64,513
10) Spain - 64,217
Germany have replaced Iran in this top ten. The US have clocked up a mammoth 51k official deaths in the past fortnight! In Brazil, the UK and Mexico, the numbers went up by another 15k-19k. In Italy, Russia, Spain and France, during this same period the death toll only rose by 6k-8k. However, in India they've restricted increases in their death tolls to 2k over the past two weeks.
2021-02-12 13:03:42
In reply to mikesiva
My guess would be elections and Trump coups.
2021-02-26 11:19:47
In reply to nick2020
And the figures continue to be high....
The official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 520,785 official deaths
2) Brazil - 251,661
3) Mexico - 183,692
4) India - 156,861
5) UK - 122,070
6) Italy - 96,974
7) France - 85,582
Russia - 85,304
9) Germany 70,003
10) Spain - 68,813
In the past fortnight, 34k people have officially died from coronavirus in the US, which represents a marginal decrease. In Brazil and Mexico, there have been another 12k-15k Covid deaths over the last two weeks. The UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain and Russia had 4k-7k official deaths in that time period. However, India have kept their increases in coronavirus deaths to just 1k over the fortnight.
2021-02-26 15:24:19
In reply to mikesiva
I remembered when the models came out that pushed the death count to 500k, I thought that was so outlandish and look now. ....
2021-03-09 23:38:45
No such thing as too few deaths.
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
In reply to maj
Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.
My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.
We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.
The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.
We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing
just stumbled on Majs first page statement.....that we will not see the death tolls they are experiencing....
He sure got that right!
2021-03-16 13:38:51
In reply to johndom90
One thing for sure...maj is no Nostradamus! There's been little change in the countries who are in the top ten over the past six months.
The latest top ten official death tolls:
1) USA - 548,013 official deaths
2) Brazil - 279,602
3) Mexico - 194,944
4) India - 158,892
5) UK - 125,580
6) Italy - 102,499
7) Russia - 92,937
France - 90,762
9) Germany - 74,115
10) Spain - 72,424
Over the past fortnight, the number of official deaths from coronavirus have gone up in the US and Brazil by 28k. The number of deaths in Mexico went up by 11k in the past two weeks. There were an additional 5k-7k deaths in France, Italy and Russia. In India, Germany, Spain and the UK, they've kept the number of deaths down to an increase of only 2k-4k.
2021-04-01 10:08:12
In reply to carl0002
Yeah, a year ago the UK's chief medical officer said that if Britain kept deaths to 20,000, that would be a good outcome. People were shocked then. But look at those stats now!
The latest official top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 565,256 official deaths
2) Brazil - 321,886
3) Mexico - 203,210
4) India - 162,960
5) UK - 126,713
6) Italy - 109,346
7) Russia - 99,233
France - 95,640
9) Germany - 77,039
10) Spain - 75,459
In the last two weeks, the number of official deaths from coronavirus in Brazil sky-rocketed by 42k! Over the past fortnight, the official death toll in the US went up by 17k. The number of deaths in Mexico, Russia and Italy went up by 7k-9k. In India, Germany, Spain and France, they've kept the number of deaths down to an increase of only 3k-5k, despite the ravages of the new UK variant in Europe. A good vaccination roll-out in the UK has probably meant that only 1k died in the past fortnight.
2021-04-01 13:48:32
In reply to mikesiva
After the Easter holiday watch out for another worldwide surge. In the US that might run into a surge from the March break after the mask less party goers return home to execute their relatives.
2021-04-14 11:34:35
In reply to carl0002
We just have to hope that the vaccine will minimise deaths....
The latest top ten official death tolls:
1) USA - 577,179 official deaths
2) Brazil - 358,718
3) Mexico - 210,294
4) India - 172,115
5) UK - 127,123
6) Italy - 115,088
7) Russia - 104,000
France - 99,480
9) Germany - 79,408
10) Spain - 76,625
In the past two weeks, an astronomical 37k died from coronavirus in Brazil. In the past fortnight, the official death tolls in the US and India increased by 10k-12k. Another 4k-7k died in Mexico, Russia, France and Italy. Only 1k-2k died in Germany and Spain over the past two weeks. Thanks to the vaccination programme, less than 1k died in the UK over the past fortnight.
2021-04-15 00:25:29
In reply to mikesiva
I think Brazil is going to surge pass the US at some point.
2021-04-21 09:29:28
I live in Turkey, we had a tough lockdown, then we weakened a little, but the number of cases began to grow sharply and the tough regimen began again. It's good that I have my own house in Alanya, where it is already warm now, I can swim in the pool and take care of my small garden.
2021-04-21 09:50:44
In reply to turk66
How was that Race in Turkey? Enjoyed any part of it?
2021-04-21 20:16:41
In reply to turk66
... It's good that I have my own house in Alanya, where it is already warm now, I can swim in the pool and take care of my small garden.
Ever heard of the Sarge and his deck project?
2021-05-03 10:03:41
In reply to Ayenmol
Turk's a spammer....
The latest top ten death tolls:
1) USA - 591,062 official deaths
2) Brazil - 407,775
3) India - 218,959
4) Mexico - 217,233
5) UK - 127,538
6) Italy - 121,177
7) Russia - 111,198
France - 104,819
9) Germany - 83,826
10) Spain - 78,216
In the past two weeks, Brazil and India registered a colossal 46-49k more official deaths from coronavirus! In the past fortnight, another 14k have died in the US. Another 4k-7k died in Mexico, Russia, France, Germany and Italy. In Spain, only 2k officially died from coronavirus, and thanks to the vaccine rollout, the UK have kept their official deaths to less than 1k.
2021-05-03 11:26:00
In reply to mikesiva
What really happened to maj?
2021-05-03 11:52:20
In reply to mikesiva
You know, early on in the pandemic, the BBC and CNN would produce headlines that a person was dying or getting Covid every 4 minutes in Iran. I don’t see them on your top 10 S^*+hole countries
2021-05-03 12:00:21
In reply to Halliwell
Pointing fingers is easy.
Looking in the mirror is hard.
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