22115 deaths nationwide..1540 yesterday

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link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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3/13/20, 11:19:25 PM 
Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities..

Stop crying about testing

link Ayenmol Joined: May 3, 2003
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3/13/20, 11:40:43 PM 
In reply to maj

Take a break dude....the truth of your boy is finally hitting you....

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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3/13/20, 11:47:36 PM 
In reply to Ayenmol

Ok the facts say 41 dead.

Opinions are not relevant.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 3, 2003
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3/13/20, 11:55:34 PM 
In reply to maj

Dude, A week ago Missouri had 1 case. Yesterday another individual self presented....2....now two more are presumptive positive....they did not say where they are from or that they self presented....fact is there are many people out there infected....give it a week to two weeks....How can you count deaths now to quantify this?

Or claim there are too few deaths to worry about testing? It is beçause they are not testing that there is this uncertainty...this thing is spreading silently.

When it spreads silently it may peak all at once which is what can stress the system and lead to massive death toll.

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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3/14/20, 12:01:00 AM 
In reply to Ayenmol

No such thing as too few deaths.

Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.

People crying not enough testing to show the severity of the situation.

My opinion is the death toll is the ultimate truth teller of the situation.

We are not seeing the exponential explosion of deaths in other regions.

The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China.

We will not see the death tolls they are experiencing

link Ayenmol Joined: May 3, 2003
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3/14/20, 12:43:05 AM 
In reply to maj

The US has a better healthcare system as compared to Italy, Iran and China. 


You are prejudiced....you are completely making that stuff up because you are conditioned to think the US is better.

It is already evident that the US is behind the curve.

People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also has less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health care, as relates to this pandemic is not better.

This thing has legs....give it two weeks.

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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3/14/20, 12:47:41 AM 
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Bro..Italians are having to spend nights with corpses in their homes.

Better I think not.

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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3/14/20, 12:52:13 AM 
In reply to maj

Testing means nothing it's all about fatalities.. 

Stop crying about testing


Stop embarrassing yourself.

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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3/14/20, 12:58:27 AM 
In reply to Ayenmol

It is already evident tgat the US is behind the curve. 

People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also uas less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health cate as relates to this pandemic is not better
.

This doesn't have anything to do with who is better, it's about being competent and proactive.

link DukeStreet Joined: Dec 1, 2002
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3/14/20, 1:04:00 AM 
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7 more since today.

48 total

link Ayenmol Joined: May 3, 2003
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3/14/20, 1:34:08 AM 
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People will die if they do not have ventillators.

When people get sick they need respirators to get better.

So far old folks and others with pre- existing conditions are dying even on ventillators....but the bigger issue is of you dont have the respirators then people who do not have underlying issues are succumbing because they cant get the care they need.

So yes, beds are important....there is no better heslthcare besides that...because you can have a million better doctors and mri machines and robotic operators....that wont help people sick with this virus.

Ok dummy? Beds and respirators. Better hope what happened in Italy ...i.e the breakout....does not happen here.

link johndom90 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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3/14/20, 1:57:48 AM 
In reply to maj

How many of the 350 million Americans have been tested?

South Korea tests 20-30000 a day...a day.

How many Americans have been tested in the past few months. ....answer- less than 5000 ( benefit of the doubt)

Your basic math is questionable given your conclusions.

link Fantom Joined: Nov 17, 2007
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3/14/20, 5:14:13 AM 
In reply to maj

How old are you? Serious question!

link mikesiva Joined: Jan 11, 2007
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3/14/20, 5:30:29 AM 
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The South Korean response has been very good. That's the template the rest of the world should follow.

link nitro Joined: Apr 9, 2003
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3/14/20, 7:14:46 AM 
48 deaths so far. Unfortunate but much better than expected given what has happened across the world.

link mikesiva Joined: Jan 11, 2007
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3/14/20, 7:21:49 AM 
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When you compare total deaths to total cases, South Korea has a better ratio than a lot of Western countries.

link Casper Joined: Nov 8, 2018
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3/14/20, 8:19:06 AM 
In reply to Ayenmol

When it spreads silently it may peak all at once which is whart can stress the system and lead tk massive death toll.



And deaths will not be only those directly attributed to the virus, but all those additional deaths caused as a result of the stress placed on the healthcare system by the virus.

Maj, like Trump, will want to focus on that tree, meanwhile the forest is about to burn down.

It is for these reasons why testing is now even more important at this point to get the whole picture of the problem Trump doesn’t want to see, and so it seems maj.

link Halliwell Joined: May 13, 2005
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3/14/20, 9:41:48 AM 
In reply to Casper

Isn’t it too late now to ramp up testing while new clinical cases appear every day?
If you will not isolate cases and their families then no sense in testing other than to calculate rates on paper. Testing is effective in the first stage.

Now, shut down measures only can delay the onset.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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3/14/20, 9:50:26 AM 
In reply to Ayenmol

sometimes and the occasions are v few and far between, you are on the ball. this is one of those times

link johndom90 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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3/14/20, 10:15:05 AM 
In reply to Halliwell

How will clinicians accurately triage covid from the common flu if there is no testing? Testing is fundamental to any type of medical treatment

link birdseye Joined: Mar 23, 2004
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3/14/20, 10:45:52 AM 
In reply to maj

Just the reality of 350 million people and only 41 deaths.
Give me an example of your argument if God forbid in 2 weeks there are 1000 deaths

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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3/14/20, 11:15:00 AM 
In reply to Ayenmol

It is already evident tgat the US is behind the curve.  

People who get seriously ill will need ventillators....US is severely behind....the US also uas less beds per citizen than Italy....so no the health cate as relates to this pandemic is not better


I said the Trump Administration is incompetent and was slow to react but show me where Italy is doing such a great job that is worthy of praise?

This is a problem of competence, not a problem of means. That is the point I was making.

Instead, you went on some rambling bullshit about things that are obvious.

link Halliwell Joined: May 13, 2005
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3/14/20, 11:18:07 AM 
In reply to johndom90

Sorry I should have been clearer...apologies.
Testing in a hospital environment is very much encouraged.

In non-hospital settings, there are too many cases now, to have people who are suspect cases showing mild symptoms being tested. It diverts precious resources from the clinically ill to the people who are showing minor flu like symptoms.

We have enough evidence from SKorea, Iran, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Italy to extrapolate case numbers based on age demographics and deaths.

link VIX Joined: Feb 6, 2003
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3/14/20, 11:33:29 AM 
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Allyuh red hat crazies .. i dunno what to say. Trump's farts creating a false reality in y'all tiny brains lol lol

link Ayenmol Joined: May 3, 2003
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3/14/20, 12:23:42 PM 
In reply to black

Man just shush.....You claimed the health care system in America is better....duh, that is obvious....Yet i told you explicitly
the health care as relates to this pandemic is not better


That is all that matters. So why you arguing anything else?

show me where Italy is doing such a great job that is worthy of praise?


Dummy, the point is not that Italy is worthy of praise, but that they were better equipped than the US per capita to deal with a peak curve in serious infections to their population, yet they ran out of beds and people are dying at home because there's no way to treat them.

Which is why I said:
Better hope what happened in Italy ...i.e the breakout....does not happen here.


That sounds like praise to you? dense moron.

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