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B-News: Georgia Killers Arrested
Casper
2020-05-08 00:51:11
This happened tonight.
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation charged a father and son with murder Thursday evening in the death of a black jogger who they suspected was a burglar running through their neighborhood, eventually shooting him on the street and touching off racial outcry throughout the country.
Gregory McMichael, 64, a former police officer, and his son Travis McMichael, 34, were both charged with murder and aggravated assault in the Feb. 23 shooting of Ahmaud Arbery. Local prosecutors had initially refused to charge the pair.
A viral video taken by another man in the neighborhood has sparked outrage because it appears to show two white men laying in wait for Aubery as he jogs down the street in broad daylight.
The McMichaels, who still maintain that they believed Arbery was a possible burglary suspect, were taken into custody Thursday and were being booked into the Glynn County Jail.
johndom90
2020-05-08 01:00:33
In reply to Casper
and it only took little less than 3 months.
when the cops initially investigated ...what were they thinking?
that Police deptalso needs to be held accountable.
Curtis
2020-05-08 01:11:55
Greatest Country in the World
dayne
2020-05-08 01:23:59
The power of phone technology, a few years ago the killers would have gotten away without a bother.
Cheeks
2020-05-08 01:50:28
Orangeman soon call them very good people.
birdseye
2020-05-08 02:31:04
In reply to Cheeks
Orangeman soon call them very good people.
And his attorney general will file motion to drop the charges
TyTy35
2020-05-08 05:16:01
In reply to Casper
With all that is happening now and it seems like the wicked will reign for ever Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
hotarobin
2020-05-08 05:40:41
It will be interesting to see the outcome of this one...The DSA is inching closer and closer towards a civil war....
hubert
2020-05-08 06:29:27
In reply to hotarobin
Interesting indeed. But my hunch is that they will get off lightly or totally..
The system works for whitey especially in the South and works against the Blackman everywhere.
We shall see.
Chrissy
2020-05-08 10:14:00
In reply to Casper
About time
Norm
2020-05-08 10:16:48
Amazing. Two months after the crime was committed, by an ex-cop - who would have gotten away with it.
It was also amazing that the person taking the video needed over two months to make it public.
hotarobin
2020-05-08 11:04:48
In reply to Norm
It was also amazing that the person taking the video needed over two months to make it public
Possibly enough time for them to move to another state...
vsingh
2020-05-08 17:30:27
The question I have is, how did this person knew when to video?
DukeStreet
2020-05-08 17:45:54
In reply to vsingh & Norm
The person running the video was the 3rd armed person chasing down Ahmaud. His name is Brian Williams. So, truck in front with the father & son duo and Williams flanking from behind.
Apparently, they shared the video among their circle of family and friends and even bragged about the killing on FB. Then, someone anonymous leaked the vid to news sources and all hell broke loose. The 1st time the deceased family saw the video was several days ago when leaked.
carl0002
2020-05-08 18:04:22
In reply to DukeStreet
Deh filmed their own crime. Can you imagine if they did not film it what would happen? They Hunt him down like an animal outflank him and execute him. I was wondering why the video just cut suddenly when the dude jump from the back of the pickup.
VIX
2020-05-08 18:05:41
Guy should have known better than to be jogging in great murca
vsingh
2020-05-08 18:12:01
In reply to DukeStreet
Good info thanks!
birdseye
2020-05-08 18:28:53
In reply to DukeStreet
so is Brian Williams in legal jeopardy? He should be he was covering up a murder - Aint that a bitch what a bunch a MFs and one a these guys is a retired police officer and DA investigator --- wonder what kind a treatment black suspects/defenders got from him
nitro
2020-05-08 18:51:34
In reply to birdseye
They need to look at every case that excop was on relating to minorities.
DukeStreet
2020-05-08 19:19:18
In reply to vsingh
Yes. Apparently Ahmaud's family knew a video existed and their legal team had requested it over and over but they never got it until it was leaked.
Can you imagine how devastated Ahmaud's family must have been to see him get blown away like that. Man, I can still hear the booming shots in my head.
googley
2020-05-08 19:28:50
In reply to DukeStreet
Video was leaked by Alan Tucker
googley
2020-05-08 19:29:45
This is Tucker's full statement to the media:
"Throughout my 39 year career as a criminal defense lawyer, I have rarely commented on or publicly explained any action Ive taken in my capacity as an attorney. There are times when it is warranted and necessary and this is one of those times.
I released the video of the shooting on February 23 in Satilla Shores. There had been very little information provided by the police department or the district attorneys office, but there was entirely too much speculation, rumor, false narratives, and outright lies surrounding this event. I didnt release this to show that they did nothing wrong as is being circulated. I was raised in this community. I love this community and have spent my career helping people in this community. My sole purpose in releasing the video was absolute transparency because my community was being ripped apart by erroneous accusations and assumptions.
Larr Pullo
2020-05-08 19:30:04
Gotta get the Black Panthers back together. Did y'all see the legislator in Michigan who got some armed brothers to escort her to work. WIPEEPO need to know that they aren't the only ones with guns.
StumpCam
2020-05-08 19:38:59
In reply to Larr Pullo
This is why these cowards care so much about their 2nd amendment rights! So they can feel powerful with a gun!
DukeStreet
2020-05-08 20:11:41
In reply to googley
Thanks. Without this video and evidence, they woulda swept this under the rug again. This is Trayvon Martin II all over again.
hotarobin
2020-05-08 20:17:47
...this continues to be very concerning...we are all reflecting on how this would have gone completely unnoticed had this video not been leaked and I am sure we are all questioning how much of this is actually going on in the DSA...
carl0002
2020-05-08 20:24:23
Not sure if I completely understand the dude Tucker statement though. He released it so that there is full transparency cuz his community was being torn apart? Or he released it cuz he is a lawyer and if they found out he had evidence that can throw light on a case he very well know that he could be disbarred. Not sure if I get him.
DukeStreet
2020-05-08 20:31:23
In reply to carl0002
Yep, either way that video was hot, hot, hot. It was known to exist so he had to release it.
birdseye
2020-05-08 21:07:35
In reply to nitro
They need to look at every case that excop was on relating to minorities.
karma catching up wid his ass he got away with stuff all his life he figure he was invulnerable --- well he may find out that he isent.
jacksparrow
2020-05-08 21:12:42
Devastating to the victim's family, murder it is.Just despicable human beings
vsingh
2020-05-08 21:40:36
In reply to DukeStreet
This is Trayvon Martin II all over again.
Except with video evidence and they were following the guy including the man with the camera.
Larr Pullo
2020-05-08 22:02:50
VIX
2020-05-08 22:04:45
In the caribbean and other developed countries, folks can jog wherever they please without getting shot.
Maispwi
2020-05-08 22:56:35
What ah cyah figure out the video ah have seen is why does the jogger divert around one side of the vehicle and end up scuffling and being shot on the other side? Was the video manipulated?
Drapsey
2020-05-08 23:22:24
In reply to Maispwi
Do you reside in the Richmond, VA area?
VIX
2020-05-08 23:27:08
In reply to Maispwi
The cameraman was an accomplice
JahJah
2020-05-09 01:48:37
In reply to Maispwi
Maybe he decided to take his chances and disarm the man trying to kill him rather than continue running into open space only to get a few in the back.
I mean, he wasn't going to be able to outrun the truck and/or the bullets.
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-09 02:41:38
In reply to VIX
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In the caribbean and other developed countries, folks can jog wherever they please without getting shot.
In Kingston?
Must be the nice part
Tryangle
2020-05-09 02:42:51
In reply to JahJah
That;s my thoughts as well.
I read some right-winger suggest that its a bad look for the "BLM crowd" as it suggests Arbery was the instigator in the confrontation and that they can claim self defense (if Arbery was able to take control of the first guy's weapon, yadda yadda yadda).
Seriously. You're a black man alone in the road with two guys with guns trying to 'detain' you, and a third guy some ways back (probably with his own gun) filming the confrontation. You run, you're dead. You 'submit', they probably gonna tie you up and drag your death out.
This killing is totally despicable.
hotarobin
2020-05-09 02:43:08
In reply to Maispwi
what I read somewhere is that they drove in front of him a tried to cut him off thrice but he just moved around them and kept on jogging each time...he probably knew how it was likely going to end and thought it best to just keep moving...thereafter it seems that they cut him off and forced a confrontation which is when he tried to take the gun from the attacker or defend himself and the other shot him...I will try to find the article...
JahJah
2020-05-09 02:43:14
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Yes, coz Kingston makes up a large chunk of Jamaica, and Jamaica is the only Caribbean country with crime and violence.
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-09 02:53:39
In reply to JahJah
Not the only. Dont be ignorant. It is the most violent
10 Of The Most Dangerous Cities In The Caribbean
8 San Juan, Puerto Rico.
7 Laventille, Trinidad & Tobago.
6 Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.
5 San Pedro Sula, Honduras.
4 Basse Terre, St. Kitts & Nevis.
3 Kingston, Jamaica.
2 Port-Au-Prince, Haiti.
1 Caracas, Venezuela.
We talking English speaking
JahJah
2020-05-09 04:14:19
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
It is the most violent. We talking English speaking
We who? You alone is a 'we'?
Dont be ignorant.
No one can defeat you in those stakes.
Dukes
2020-05-09 04:22:58
In reply to TyTy35
With all that is happening now and it seems like the wicked will reign for ever Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
It just doesn't bend by itself.We have to bend it ourselves!!!!!
Dukes
2020-05-09 04:34:51
In reply to Maispwi
What ah cyah figure out the video ah have seen is why does the jogger divert around one side of the vehicle and end up scuffling and being shot on the other side? Was the video manipulated?
Trying to figure out such details is not necessary.
BOTTOM LINE
1. A black man is jogging
2. A black man is unarmed
3.At least 3 white men,2 of them at least are armed and in a vehicle that apparently can go faster than the black man can jog..
4..The black man ends up shot dead.
5.The gun causing the black man's death is owned by the white men.
6.There is no evidence that the black man took the gun away from the white men and shot himself.
Cheeks
2020-05-09 05:44:51
In reply to nitro
Look. You need to stay outta this. You support a jackass who enables and supports that sorta behaviour for votes.
Kindly fuck off.
I dont know what it will take for you to realize that this shit is not funny.
Casper
2020-05-09 09:27:09
Did you realize that in the initial decision by the prosecutors, it was deemed self-defense for the attackers following the black jogger?
As this case proceeds, will the defense continue to pursue this strategy? What defense would they think the jogger had as he struggled with a man, who probably first pointed a gun at him?
Man who took video of Ahmaud Arbery's shooting will also be investigated, Georgia official says
The director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Friday it will continue investigating the death of Ahmaud Arbery, including the man who filmed the incident in a video.
Director Vic Reynolds said that video, which has spread widely on social media, was a key piece of evidence in the case in which two white men are seen chasing Arbery down on a residential street in southern Georgia.
He said it took 36 hours from the time the bureau began assisting in the probe to arrest the father and son, Gregory and Travis McMichael, who are accused of shooting Arbery, who was black. There were "some things that needed to be done" in the investigation that had been led by Atlantic Judicial Circuit District Attorney Tom Durden since April 14, he said.
StumpCam
2020-05-09 09:41:08
In reply to Casper
Can you imagine the original DA said that there was nothing illegal about their(perpetrators) actions! As reported by the TV news!
DukeStreet
2020-05-09 11:57:14
In reply to JahJah
There was speculation the shooter was actually the dad and he supposedly shot from atop the truck. Not sure if the prosecutors are prosecuting from that angle...or maybe it doesn't matter cuz both of dem going down.
DukeStreet
2020-05-09 11:58:18
In reply to StumpCam
They need to do an internal investigation of that whole department.
Maispwi
2020-05-09 19:17:10
In reply to Dukes
Be that as it may, all the points you raised, Trayvon Martin's killer got away by claiming he was attacked and feared for his life. So there is some precedent especially with the liberal stand your ground and citizens arrest laws on Georgia's books
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-09 19:42:02
In reply to JahJah
Maybe he decided to take his chances and disarm the man trying to kill him rather than continue running into open space only to get a few in the back.
Which one of your ass did you get that analysis?
The one above your neck?
Do me a favor and go take a jog in Orangeville
Just a short drive from you
JahJah
2020-05-09 21:29:49
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Your post makes no sense. No surprise there.
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-09 22:34:34
In reply to JahJah
Basic logic is a detriment to your comprehension
Norm
2020-05-10 01:15:42
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan and JahJah
Come on, fellas. No need for this.
Norm
2020-05-10 02:50:59
Fox News story: "If he had just froze ... he wouldn't have gotten shot."
The LAWYER released the video to HELP the shooters! He was trying to stop riots, such as in Baltimore and Charleston. The neighbor of the shooters shot the video.
These people, in their extremely twisted world, believed that the rest of the world was just as twisted, and accepting of their depraved reasoning. The riots that may have followed would have been a real annoyance to their "caring" consciences!
Fox News has begun its defense of murderous white racists, because of who they are likely to support.
It is utterly amazing, and shocking, that no one in the shooters' community thought the shooters were wrong to confront that particular jogger for no other reason than his skin color. The reasons why the lawyer released the video are also utterly mind-blowing in their depravity.
"Know a tree by its fruit," a certain very wise man said.
DukeStreet
2020-05-10 04:19:20
In reply to Norm
Hmmm. It crazy but I was telling my sister and theorizing the same thing the other day. I told her he decided to release the video cuz he was probably hearing loud voices from the community and Ahmaud's folks already knew a video existed and the lawyer got scared not because of fear for what would happen to the men but for his own ass if he didn't release it. The clock was ticking on him and he knew it.
JahJah
2020-05-10 04:26:54
In reply to Norm
Me? The only person needed talking to was that jackass. We here talking about something serious and he come here with the foolishness.
Norm
2020-05-10 07:05:59
In reply to JahJah
We here talking about something serious ...
I hear you.
VIX
2020-05-10 19:51:46
Another typical day in murca.
Latched on to by murca obsessed backroom.
Ewart
2020-05-10 20:29:58
In reply to Maispwi
...
stand your ground
law is in Florida.
Is it also in Georgia?
//
cricket_jumbie
2020-05-10 20:40:45
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-10 21:48:57
In reply to JahJah
Maybe he decided to take his chances and disarm the man trying to kill him
What is that foolishness u wrote there mule?
Ewart
2020-05-10 22:02:56
In reply to cricket_jumbie
Thanks!
//
Tryangle
2020-05-10 23:48:14
In reply to Norm
Fox News story: "If he had just froze ... he wouldn't have gotten shot."
Screw Fox News for such a ludicrous take.
And screw Candace Owens who took the opportunity today to lambaste African-Americans. Exceptionally low, mean-spirited and deliberately antagonising. David Duke doesn't have to do a thing, she's pretty much his twin.
Cheeks
2020-05-11 00:22:16
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
What is that foolishness u wrote there mule?
What is wrong with his perspective???
Its plausible the guy realized that he couldn't outrun the trucks and eventually decided to take his chances with fighting back. Anybody who follows the news knows that black folk struggle to get restraint from the police....its reasonable to think that that he was in trouble with Billy Bob and his pickney and when he came face to face with a rifle..he had no choice but to fight back.
The guy was between a rock and a hard place.
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-11 01:37:58
In reply to Cheeks
Teach you kids to come home alive and NOT to be right with the constitution on their side.
Live to fight another day.
Some ref
Survive in america as a Minority
Casper
2020-05-11 01:44:23
In reply to nitro
They need to look at every case that excop was on relating to minorities.
And what about any minorities-involved cases the prosecutors worked on?
Norm
2020-05-11 01:58:37
In reply to Tryangle
Screw Fox News for such a ludicrous take.
It is very disappointing that so many humans knowingly embrace inequality as a way of life - even the mouthpieces of large political entities. There is a lot of work for all of us to do, to move past that.
JahJah
2020-05-11 04:57:46
In reply to Cheeks
You see the response to your post? That should tell you all you need to know.
Me done.
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-11 22:41:14
In reply to JahJah
You will be a statistic one day and no one will come on tv repping
Mr youwancometest. Mr useemee
Handle my response. You might learn something
Highly unlikely but
JahJah
2020-05-12 02:11:00
It's not right to laugh at the mentally ill, but I'll make exception just for Dan.
lol.
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-12 12:49:32
In reply to JahJah
Look in the mirror dudley
Casper
2020-05-12 12:58:33
The case gets another prosecutor, this time a black Atlanta woman.
Cobb DA appointed to prosecute murder suspects in Ahmaud Arbery case. Shes held the position for only about 10 months. But Joyette Holmes, Cobb Countys first black district attorney, was thrust into the spotlight quickly when she was selected to prosecute the suspects charged in the shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery, a racially charged case that is drawing national attention.
State leaders hailed Holmes, a former chief magistrate court judge, as the best choice for the job, while others noted the decision once again links Glynn and Cobb counties and their prosecutors. On Monday, Holmes also a former defense attorney became the third prosecutor assigned to the Arbery case when Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr announced he was appointing her.
Attorney General Chris Carr appointed Ms. Holmes as the public pressure evolved from pushing for criminal charges to broader scrutiny of the way the case had been handled by prosecutors and the police. On Sunday, Mr. Carr, a Republican, urged the Justice Department to initiate a sweeping investigation into the case.
JahJah
2020-05-12 16:59:10
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Like I said before, your post made no sense. Feel free to keep digging though.
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-13 00:12:30
Link Text
Investigators reviewing additional video in death of south Georgia jogger Ahmaud Arbery
hotarobin
2020-05-13 03:14:11
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
typical irrelevant distraction that they will bring to the argument.....
JahJah
2020-05-13 11:49:09
In reply to hotarobin
That video has been out for a while now, and already known, and the dudes were still arrested.
Also note that Dan justified the guy's murder, so make of that what you will.
Tell him what is under investigation as well. Can of worms opening up? Let's hope for Dan's and his sake that he didn't corrupt any past cases and stitched up folks.
JahJah
2020-05-13 12:10:12
Dan_De_Lyan
2020-05-13 12:56:03
In reply to JahJah
Also note that Dan justified the guy's murder, so make of that what you will.
That video was broadcasted by all media. cnn, Gayle king (she black) and the rest of the media houses. Where did I justify his murder fada ram! Go sum
With your attitude, Halton Region have your name carved on a projectile
It soon come
Cheeks
2020-05-13 13:57:29
Man
.as people have said...its very common practice at least in Grenada for people to look at houses under construction ..sometimes just to be nosey to find fault and sometimes to get ideas for their own projects.
I remember being on my site a few times and all sorts of weird people...rich, poor and in between would drive by stop..and have a look. Sometimes when they see me they would beat a hasty retreat because they don't want to get caught being nosey.
Casper
2020-05-15 06:01:32
Looks like Aubrey May have visited the construction site to check out the house
No evidence that he took anything; no reason to be killed, except some two or more Georgia residents deciding to take the laws into their hands and executing their own form of quick justice.
Security camera footage from a home under construction in the neighborhood where Ahmaud Arbery was shot to death in February shows a person who appears to be the same young man entering the property several times since last fall.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has reviewed video footage and police reports involving five dates where the young man appeared on the property and tripped the motion-sensor videos that sent an alert to property owner Larry Englishs phone. The footage is part of the Georgia Bureau of Investigations case as agents try to piece together what happened before Arberys Feb. 23 death in a suburb outside Brunswick. Investigators are still trying to determine if the young man in the videos is Arbery, but his familys legal team said a video of a figure entering the property on the day of the killing appears to be him.
Casper
2020-05-15 07:38:42
Gregory McMichael lost his power of arrest, except for the citizen arrest and murder of a black man.
Gregory McMichael, the white retired law enforcement officer who helped chase down and kill Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed 25-year-old African American man, failed to complete sufficient basic law enforcement training for years, a deficiency that led to him losing his power of arrest.
McMichael, who worked as an investigator in the Brunswick judicial circuit district attorneys office from 1995 to 2019, lost his power of arrest in January 2006 for failing to complete the required 20 hours of training the previous year, according to personnel records obtained by the Guardian.
He continued to be deficient in his training for the years that followed and didnt get the waiver required to reinstate his power of arrest authority. Some of the training McMichael lacked included required courses on use of force and firearms.
The personnel records, which have been reported by local media, come to light as McMichael faces murder charges for chasing down Arbery, who was jogging through a residential neighborhood. McMichael and his son Travis claimed they believed Arbery looked like a suspect in a string of neighborhood break-ins.
The records also shed light on McMichaels close relationship with Jackie Johnson, the district attorney for the Brunswick judicial circuit, who recused herself from the case and is now subject to a state investigation of how the case was handled.
When is Jackie Johnson going to resign?