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How did Music evolve?

 
Barry 2020-05-12 13:15:22 

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This is why I don’t believe in evolution- who hard wired it into our brains



Still, the study offers insights into how music has evolved through time. Scientists know that there are rules for what constitutes a pleasing sound, some of which are culturally driven and some of which may be hard-wired in our brains. The results of this experiment suggest that listeners aren’t just passive consumers but play a highly influential role in music’s evolution

twisted

 
Barry 2020-05-12 13:20:07 



So, when did our ancestors begin making music? If we take singing, then controlling pitch is important. Scientists have studied the fossilized skulls and jaws of early apes, to see if they were able to vocalize and control pitch. About a million years ago, the common ancestor of Neanderthals and modern humans had the vocal anatomy to "sing" like us, but it's impossible to know if they did


A Neanderthal singing... Socafighter existed back then?
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black 2020-05-12 13:33:01 

In reply to Barry

You cannot try to undercut me by asking stupid questions.

 
Barry 2020-05-12 13:52:19 

In reply to black

It is a question in the scientific literature, BOY cool
Here is a book chapter to read- you can do that, right?
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Barry 2020-05-12 13:56:48 

Damn farse

One way of tackling this problem is to view music from an evolutionary perspective. The idea that music could have evolutionary origins and selective benefits was widely speculated on in the early part of the twentieth century, in the light of increasing bodies of ethnographic research and Darwinian theory (e.g., Wallaschek 1893). This approach fell rapidly out of favour in the years before the Second World War, for political as much as for scientific reasons, with the repudiation of biological and universalist ideas in anthropological and musicological fields (Plotkin 1997). However, evolutionary thinking has again become central in a range of sciences and in recent philosophical approaches, and music’s relationship to evolutionary processes has been increas- ingly explored over the past two decades (see also Dissanayake, Chapters 2 and 24; Brandt, Chapter 3; Merker, Chapter 4, this volume).
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Cross, I., and Morley, I. (200cool. “The evolution of music: theories, definitions and the nature of the evidence,” in Communicative Musicality: Exploring the Basis of Human Companionship, eds S. Malloch and C. Trevarthen (Oxford: Oxford University Press), 61–82

 
Barry 2020-05-12 14:00:57 

Folks, I am honouring my training not the non college black... evil he has the authority to comment on any topic by talking about Noah’s ark or arses as if he was there but I can’t talk about the flaws in evolutionary theory? Black believes he is god. rolleyes

 
sgtdjones 2020-05-12 17:03:56 

In reply to Barry

Your fascination of black, socafighter, Alien 51 etc is mind boggling.

Since you claim to have such academic credentials, why do you have time for things that are inconsequential?

rolleyes

 
Barry 2020-05-12 18:05:34 

How did fat arses evolve? razz

 
Barry 2020-05-12 18:09:54 

In reply to sgtdjones

Socafighter, Alien21, Casper, Dan_De_Lyan, realscout, Emir, rumrunner, problemjay, zeta, stdgjones is one man from Toronto Canada big grin
He drives trucks and claims he works for a company which gives him the email addresses....

 
Barry 2020-05-12 18:11:39 

The evolution of the fat arse- phenotypic variation in the handles oh the one once called Socafighter.... rolleyes

 
Barry 2020-05-12 21:41:18 

Music tells us there is a God... cool

 
Barry 2020-05-13 10:14:18 

Evolution cannot explain music or black... big grin

 
Norm 2020-05-13 10:22:17 

In reply to black

You cannot try to undercut me by asking stupid questions.

Wait, man. You hold the monopoly on both stupid questions and stupid answers? smile

Barry's question is not stupid, BTW. Nor was the bit of background he provided.

 
Drapsey 2020-05-13 10:35:22 

In reply to Barry

Music evolved from GOD's creation of the Birds (and Fish) on Day-5.

When Man was created on the following Day-6, the chirping of the 1-day old birds was music to his ears. The nightingale must've been the choirmaster.

 
black 2020-05-13 11:15:19 

In reply to Drapsey

lol lol lol

 
XDFIX 2020-05-13 11:31:20 

In reply to Barry

Informative article!

These cultural artifacts mutate, some die out and others catch on and become great hits.

Reggae vs. dance hall!

The loops that got higher ratings were combined with others to produce new audio loops; the lower rated ones were culled.

 
Barry 2020-05-13 14:34:52 

In reply to Drapsey

Only creationism believes that the creative days were 24 hour days - biblically we can prove that they were vast time periods...

 
Barry 2020-05-13 14:35:49 

In reply to Drapsey

The angels sing in heaven and think that sarcasm sucks razz

 
Barry 2020-05-13 14:36:42 

In reply to XDFIX

The evolution of reggae is a wonderful story lol

 
sgtdjones 2020-05-13 14:49:05 

In reply to Norm

Wait, man. You hold the monopoly on both stupid questions and stupid answers


That's not nice....Barry (PJ) is an only child and is lonely.

cool

 
Drapsey 2020-05-13 14:49:32 

In reply to Barry

Only creationism believes that the creative days were 24 hour days - biblically we can prove that they were vast time periods...

Interesting.

So this puts that thing about Rest on Day-7 into perspective. (Modern) Society uses that as the 'formal' day to worship the Creator, but now that we know the term Day is used in reference to ERA, we should be worshipping Him everyday in this 7th era. That should at least put an end to the Saturday/Sunday day of worship debate.

 
Barry 2020-05-13 16:12:00 

In reply to sgtdjones

Admin? cool

 
Barry 2020-05-13 16:13:15 

In reply to Drapsey

In my grandmother’s day means what? You see- you are not very smart... lol lol lol lol

 
Barry 2020-05-13 16:15:17 

In reply to Drapsey

A 24 hour day is peculiar to the earth and occurred well into the Biblical creative days- have you ever considered that your pastor is a fool? rolleyes

 
sgtdjones 2020-05-13 16:42:05 

In reply to Barry

You have morphed into Admin now ?

Hmmmmm

rolleyes

 
Barry 2020-05-13 16:52:19 

In reply to sgtdjones

Admin please note big grin

 
Barry 2020-05-13 16:54:30 

In reply to sgtdjones

Can you add anything to our intellectual conversation, fat arse? razz we are discussing how music evolved...