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WI Provisional 30 Man Test Squad members

 
Slipfeeler 2020-05-15 01:21:28 

The Gleaner has been informed that the players were contacted by Cricket West Indies selectors and asked to make themselves available for selection. They were briefed on the new measures and changes should the bio-secure Test take place in July because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Windies provisional squad:

John Campbell (Jamaica)

Jermaine Blackwood (Jamaica)

Nkrumah Bonner (Jamaica)

Paul Palmer Jr (Jamaica)

Marquino Mindley (Jamaica)

Daren Bravo (T&T)

Joshua da Silva (T&T)

Anderson Phillip (T&T)

Shannon Gabriel (T&T)

Sunil Ambris (Windwards)

Preston McSween (Windwards)

Alzarri Joseph (Leewards)

Jahmar Hamilton (Leewards)

Rahkeem Cornwall (Leewards)

Shimron Hetmyer (Guyana)

Veerasammy Permaul (Guyana)

Keemo Paul (Guyana)

Jason Holder (Barbados)

Kraigg Brathwaite (Barbados)

Shayne Mosely (Barbados)

Kemar Roach (Barbados)

Chemar Holder (Barbados)

Keon Harding (Barbados)

Shane Dowrich (Barbados)

Shai Hope (Barbados)

Kyle Mayers (Barbados)

Roston Chase (Barbados)

Shamarh Brooks (Barbados)

Jomel Warrican (Barbados)

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/sports/20200514/five-jcans-windies-training-squad

 
Slipfeeler 2020-05-15 01:47:56 

Should be squad for both Senior team and A-team.

 
sunfish 2020-05-15 02:35:36 

Too many spinners because English wickets won't suit them. Four spinners in Chase, Cornwall, Permaul and Warrican two too many.

 
sunfish 2020-05-15 02:38:54 

Preston McSween is interesting because he's the only left arm seamer in the squad.

 
sunfish 2020-05-15 02:45:10 

No Brandon King? I'm disappointed.

 
Atl_View 2020-05-15 03:44:41 

I can't see the intent to win when some of the choices here will be challenged to win a match versus a 1980s West Indies School boy team. Forget wining against a Bajan team of the same era.
Too many reputation picks versus talent.

 
XDFIX 2020-05-15 11:52:19 

No K. Powell!

Barbados 12!

 
anthonyp 2020-05-15 13:59:40 

In reply to XDFIX

Surely Powell is better than Mosely.. Ah guess people in the setup don't like him..

 
Dukes 2020-05-15 14:03:47 

In reply to anthonyp

In his interview on Mason,Kieron Powell admitted to failing the yo-yo test but said other people failed the test while others failed to do the test.

 
anthonyp 2020-05-15 14:09:38 

Hard to pick a final XI from that squad.. Since that surgery Gabriel didn't play any cricket.. don't think they should be rushing him back..

1. Hope
2. Campbell
3. Bravo
4. Chase
5. Hety
6. Dowrich
7. Holder
8. Paul/Cornwall
9. Roach
10. Alzarri
11. Chemar

 
Walco 2020-05-15 14:15:16 

In reply to XDFIX

Barbados 12!

Courtney Browne strikes again cool

 
Walco 2020-05-15 14:16:43 

In reply to anthonyp
Didn't Hope make 2 tons in one match during the last England tour?

 
anthonyp 2020-05-15 14:17:31 

In reply to Dukes

A lot of big names failed the yo-yo test, yet they selected them.. If that was one of the criteria to make this 30 man squad then players like Campbell, Cornwall, Gabriel and couple others shouldn't be in it..

 
Walco 2020-05-15 14:18:22 

In reply to Dukes

other people failed the test while others failed to do the test

Was he referring to others who are in the 30 man provisional squad?

 
anthonyp 2020-05-15 14:21:47 

In reply to Walco

Yes he did. Kraigg scored a ton and a 90+ too in the same match I think.. since then both of them struggling to mek a lil 50 in test though..

Think Kraigg averaging about 15 in his last three or more test series.

 
Walco 2020-05-15 14:24:50 

In reply to anthonyp

I would drop Kraigg long before before I drop Hope.

 
anthonyp 2020-05-15 15:15:41 

In reply to Walco

Hope is in my starting team.. Once Hope, Hetmyer and Pooran in a squad they gonna always be in my starting XI.. By far the 3 most talented batsmen in the region..

 
Spoilt101 2020-05-15 15:27:22 

In reply to sunfish

I really hope they pick him we need a left arm seamer in the test team.

 
Larr Pullo 2020-05-15 15:43:33 

Seems like Powell is the new Devon Smith

 
jacksprat 2020-05-15 15:57:54 

Powellcan actually bat but seems to lack concentration.

So apart from both being lefthanders, there is no really comparison with that other fellow with the low 20s average, after an almost 15 years, and 40-test career. big grin

 
Walco 2020-05-15 15:59:09 

In reply to anthonyp
Did I miss when Pooran announce his availability to play test cricket? Thought that he, like Lewis, was not interested in test cricket. I am curious to seem him play tests though.

 
dayne 2020-05-15 16:30:48 

In reply to jacksprat

It is hard to lobby for Powell, his batting average is as low as a Test #7 batsman.

 
anthonyp 2020-05-15 16:39:22 

In reply to Walco

CWI had an interview with Pooran couple days ago on Instagram.. first question they asked him is if he wanna play test cricket.

He answer was yes.. that his body is far better these days so hopefully he will get a chance to play test cricket.. said because of the injuries he had to make certain decisions in de early part of his career..

The live interview was about 30 mins.. think it's still up on their page.

 
jacksprat 2020-05-15 16:47:07 

In reply to dayne
I am not lobbying for Powell- he has had a fair chance. Just playing devils advocate! big grin big grin

 
natty_forever 2020-05-15 16:54:37 

In reply to jacksprat

A when since VOR a the devil?

 
Walco 2020-05-15 17:05:09 

In reply to anthonyp
Thanks. I will check it out

 
jacksprat 2020-05-15 17:06:16 

In reply to natty_forever

A when since VOR a the devil?

He is, but is he touting Devon Smith? big grin big grin

 
Larr Pullo 2020-05-15 17:11:38 

In reply to dayne

They ALL have poor stats. Why does Powell's poor stats work against him but not anyone else? At least Powel has actually had the odd good performance at the top level.

 
Maispwi 2020-05-15 17:15:58 

We eh tired of rewarding people who cyah average 40 regularly in Regional cricket and expect to improve?

 
jacksprat 2020-05-15 17:43:40 

In reply to Maispwi

We eh tired of rewarding people who cyah average 40 regularly in Regional cricket and expect to improve?

If the selectors only rewarded batsmen who regularly average 40 in regional cricket, how would West Indies ever field a team?

 
defeyeant 2020-05-15 18:20:11 

Wow that is realllllll nuff bajans den!!!

 
Seechy 2020-05-15 18:33:43 

In reply to Slipfeeler

No Pooran!

 
Seechy 2020-05-15 18:33:44 

In reply to Slipfeeler

No Pooran!

 
imusic 2020-05-15 19:00:22 

In reply to anthonyp

HERE’S A LINK TO THE POORAN INTERVIEW

 
imusic 2020-05-15 19:42:22 

12 Bajans and none of them is Justin Greaves

Forking Shayne Mosley? Paul Palmer? Really? This “squad” is a farce

 
Dukes 2020-05-15 20:12:41 

In reply to Walco

Pooran is not in the 29 people in that squad.

 
sudden 2020-05-15 20:22:42 

In reply to Dukes

When are the tests starting? I will try to be there. There is something about Hety I want to see

 
Oilah 2020-05-15 20:23:06 

Happy to see Holder Harding and Halzarri...de attack to be big grin

 
imusic 2020-05-15 20:32:02 

We’ve had that “official” selection criteria (needing to play the equivalent format of the game at the regional level) for decades.

Out selectors have rewarded top performers in regional cricket with selection. Players like Devon smith, Darren Ganga, Vishal Singh, Toni best, verasammy permaul etc

How’s that worked out?

Some players who are perennial performers get overlooked all the time....Nikita Miller, Imran Khan, until recently Rakheem Cornwall etc

That official selection policy has helped to have West Indies in the bottom tier of international test cricket.

Yet they continue. The poster child for the definition of insanity

 
tc1 2020-05-15 20:49:32 

In reply to imusic

They could have picked Webster, , Pierre, Ottley, Ottley n Mohammad

 
openning 2020-05-15 21:20:06 

In reply to imusic

We’ve had that “official” selection criteria (needing to play the equivalent format of the game at the regional level) for decades.

This is what can happen when players are not playing for a format, they are playing.
Link Text

 
velo 2020-05-15 21:23:03 

palmer,moseley,hamilton i know it'a a 30 man squad they got to put up some names to make up the 30 but really

 
openning 2020-05-15 21:34:18 

In reply to imusic

12 Bajans and none of them is Justin Greaves

Your boy just did not bat/bowl, to be selected.
His slot went to Kyle Mayers, because Bim has the maximum allocation.
Thirteen bajan would have created. havoc on this board.

 
velo 2020-05-15 21:43:43 

hetmyer would not be in my side blackwood should replace him

 
anthonyp 2020-05-15 22:44:01 

In reply to openning

Since that ton Brooks ever pass 10 in any cricket?

Warrican, Mosley and Brooks should consider themselves lucky to be in that 30 man squad..

 
openning 2020-05-15 22:48:57 

In reply to anthonyp

Why not address your concerns to the COS?
None of the Bajans picked themselves.
My response to my mate imusic, is a long debate that started almost a decade ago, nothing to do with the present selection.

 
imusic 2020-05-16 00:31:40 

In reply to openning

Shayne Mosley gets selected with a batting average of 35 scoring 490 runs
Last season, Mosley averaged 23.21 scoring 441 runs

How does he get selected over a player like Kieran Powell who has international pedigree and scored 429 runs this season at 30.64?

How does he get selected ahead of Devon Smith who scored 649 runs at 46.35?

How does Brooks with his 18.78 batting average from 15 innings get selected but Leon Johnson with 472 runs at 36.30 doesn’t?

And that’s just the batsmen.

Warrican is among the luckiest players in WI cricket history.

He keeps getting a retainer contract.
He hardly ever gets selected for a WI squad outside of a training squad
He took 13 wickets in 10 innings for Barbados Pride this seasons at an average of 23.38. Mediocre at best. Yet he still keeps getting selected in training squads and astonishingly, continues to “earn” a retainer contract.

As I say....the squad.....and criteria used to select it....is fraudulent

 
openning 2020-05-16 00:39:39 

In reply to imusic
Bro, why dont you stick to your boy?
I would not had pick Moseley, neither would I pick Greaves.Are you aware Brooks, (and you know I am not a fan), scored a ton in his last test.
Now you get me so Offset, by bringing a Robot into the conversation

 
sudden 2020-05-16 00:47:03 

In reply to openning

You don’t have to justify any selection. That is for the selectors to do. The whiners cant even blame Brown now. So dem confused big grin

 
openning 2020-05-16 00:59:57 

In reply to sudden

lol lol

 
Windies2017 2020-05-16 01:43:21 

In reply to velo

Bare nonsense to see a guy like Palmer who can barely make a regional first class side in this squad.

 
sunfish 2020-05-16 01:45:31 

In reply to Windies2017

It should have been King..

 
Slipfeeler 2020-05-16 22:23:36 

In reply to Windies2017

Selectors might also be think about forming an A-team from the squad.

 
Judgement 2020-05-16 22:49:52 

In reply to anthonyp

How does Brooks with his 18.78 batting average from 15 innings get selected but Leon Johnson with 472 runs at 36.30 doesn’t?

It gets worse, Brooks just got awarded a FULL West Indies retainer contract and Rahkeem Cornwall who has consistently performed far more than the one-century Brooks, was only awarded a measly "developmental" retainer contract. Its a facking joke! Jason Holder and Roddy Estwick are running that Test team.

 
sudden 2020-05-16 22:52:22 

In reply to Judgement

so they decide who will get contracts too? at least there is no Courtney Browne to blame? so you had to find some bajan. how about blaming it on Gearbox?

 
Judgement 2020-05-16 23:30:51 

In reply to sudden

You obviously have no idea how it all works. You think its a coincidence that fat, old, Bajan high school sports teacher Roddy facking Estwick, who has no international cricket experience, has a job as West Indies Assistant Coach and has all his ex pupils in that Test team? How the fack you think he got his job? Maybe a science teacher from Barbados should apply for the West Indies fielding coach job next!

You DO know that the West Indies coaches directly contact the regional boards to insist on who they want in regional squads, who should be regional captain etc, right?!

And you DO know that the selection process involves Jason Holder picking the team along with the selectors, as he does with all tours, or are you a blind and dumb retard?!

 
sudden 2020-05-17 00:07:24 

In reply to Judgement

I must be. so Estwick and not the head coach Simmons, and the captain can contact the power that be and decide who gets a contract?

 
tc1 2020-05-17 00:42:06 

In reply to Judgement

Post Brooks 4 year Avg, and you would see he was one of the better bats during this perod, before it was Brown n Jason, now it Jason n Estwick, next you going to blame Sudden and Powen, lol lol

 
anthonyp 2020-05-17 01:59:13 

In reply to tc1

According to CWI website

2016/2017 - 48.78
2017/2018 - 37.13
2018/2019 - 27.00
2019/2020 - 24.93

One of our best batsman.. deserve a permanent spot in the test XI

Link Text

 
tc1 2020-05-17 02:30:10 

In reply to anthonyp

Post his competition

 
openning 2020-05-17 03:27:58 

In reply to tc1

The only argument need to be made for Brooks is, he scored a ton in the last test match.
There is a reason why Barbados cricketers and Barbadians associated with the management of CWI, get all the blame.
Barbadian should be proud of it cricket accomplishment, having maybe the greatest player to ever play the game, and winning all most half of the regional tournaments.
I am a proud fan of Barbados cricket.

The BCA, just introduced Chamar Holder and Keon Harding, Championship teams, bring players into the spotlight.

 
tc1 2020-05-17 04:04:47 

In reply to openning

No, the argument is how he stack up against the competition over the last 3/4 years, the scoring of a ton the last test against a weak opponent add little value to Brooks.

 
openning 2020-05-17 04:36:47 

In reply to tc1
Brooks since the U19 level, had one good performance in the regional tournament, then a number of performances at the A team level.
He has not develop with all that was expected of him, but the next 10 years may be better, than the previous ten..
The T20 league was one of the forward thinking from the BCA in sometime.
The BCA must get back to a competition, where the top players, play against each other, and forget about about clubs.

 
Judgement 2020-05-17 05:09:33 

In reply to openning

but the next 10 years may be better, than the previous ten..

That's how i know you is a damn cokehead! Brooks is 32 this year, what next 10 years you hoping for? Facking need a clip around your ears to check if there's a brain in there!

What your biased stupid ass should be asking yourself is how Brooks (by your own admission a mediocre player that has not developed) got a West Indies central retainer contract this year and the talented and consistent Rahkeem Cornwall gets a "developmental contract". We very sure Daddy Estwick and Boyfriend Jason played no part (and pigs can fly) rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

Barbadian should be proud of it cricket accomplishment, having maybe the greatest player to ever play the game, and winning all most half of the regional tournaments.

And yes of course the damn Bajans shine, obviously, because they get the most opportunities to get into the international squad and they get the opportunities for the most international exposure and experience DUH shock shock Of course they will then look the best when they return home to their domestic competitions you fool. In case you didn't notice there are TWELVE Bajans in a 30 man squad to England, what a thing! No problems making the squad even though most of them are struggling in test cricket or are brand new to the international scene - all just so convenient eh!

 
openning 2020-05-17 05:15:47 

In reply to Judgement

Brooks since the U19 level, had one good performance in the regional tournament, then a number of performances at the A team level.

My mother taught me to ignore jackasses.
BTW, I love the history of Barbados cricket, but I am also a critic, of what I have seen, the last 20 years.
but the next 10 years may be better, than the previous ten..

As someone that believe in god, wish the best for him going forward.
Stop being an idiot.

 
Judgement 2020-05-17 05:17:31 

In reply to openning

Your mother forgot to tell you to include yourself in that list of jackasses...

 
openning 2020-05-17 05:24:24 

In reply to Judgement
I am my mothers son, if I had wrote about a person, she would had read the entire portion, and question me on a number of topics.
She was never partial to any individual, or segment of a discussion.

 
openning 2020-05-17 05:29:38 

In reply to Judgement
I dont know any Barbadian cricketer or coach, I left the Island in 1970.
I never learn how to be political correct, even though I understand how it could benefit my career.
I go to bat for Opening only.

 
anthonyp 2020-05-17 12:28:47 

In reply to tc1

Make up yuh mind.. first yuh wanted his average for the past 4 years.. now all of ah sudden we gotta compare it to others

Who are his competitors by the way? Bravo? Hope?

 
Lamb 2020-05-17 14:17:15 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Shame on the selectors. They are polarising every ××××××.

Some players should be rewarded for their consistent or outstanding performances during the regional tournaments.

Some may not cut it for the final squad but are you telling me they can't even make the 30?

How do you justify the omission of Devon Smith, N. Pooran, Leon Johnson and K. Powell?

Roger knows that they have to reward top regional players. During his interviews, he singled out some key performances yet they are not even in the 30 man Squad?

I call on regional officials to investigate and ask them selectors how do they justify the selection of some players...

Something just doesn't smell right.

 
tc1 2020-05-17 14:20:50 

In reply to anthonyp

You have to compare Brooks to the batsmen in the regional to determine if he warrant a place in the team.there are 4 opening in the middle , not 2.

 
imusic 2020-05-17 20:37:38 

I am shocked that Ashley Nurse and Jonathan Carter are not included in this 30 man squad

 
sudden 2020-05-17 20:40:09 

instead of Bravo and Gabriel yes

 
Dukes 2020-05-17 20:45:09 

Please remember that the last test match the West Indies played,Brooks scored a century

 
openning 2020-05-17 21:12:38 

In reply to imusic
What about Justin Greaves, is he not your first pick?

 
imusic 2020-05-17 21:52:36 

In reply to openning

I stated my position on Justin Greaves earlier in this thread

 
natty_forever 2020-05-18 15:20:32 

WI Selectors speak with fork-tongue!

 
POINT 2020-05-20 01:08:48 

In reply to Walco

The question in my opinion is Does
Barbados honestly deserve to have 12
Players Selected ????????????????