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The Biden-Abrams Audition on MSNBC
In reply to Casper
So is this a foregone conclusion?
In reply to black
Pretty well. But I promoted and suggested this would be the preferred team from a while ago.
Ask Dukes.
In reply to black
BTW, did you think she did a good job tonight?
I thought she did. She came across as honest, energetic, knowledgeable and ready to take on Trump and Pence.
In reply to Casper
Well, she is very talented but I thought he would have gone with someone on the National stage.
Anyway, good choice if that is the case.
In reply to Casper
I only saw the tail end but I've seen her interviews before, she is very talented.
In reply to black
Well, hes going for the black vote, the southern vote, the middle of the road progressives and someone who is not going to draw the ire of the many factions in the a Democratic Party. She makes the perfect choice.
I am sure all the other contenders for V.P. came away tonight saying, thats it.
In reply to Casper
i prefer AOC. that women is so sexy i can have her quadruplets
Yeah, murcan swing voters would surely support a ticket with Abrams
crazies on the loose
In reply to VIX
they supported one with Trump at the top of the ticket and Pence in a support role didnt they?
In reply to Casper
I think Biden is going to pick Kamala. Stacey's consolation prize was an appearance on MSNBC with Biden to show her supporters that Biden has great respect for Stacey.
GO TO THE TOP OF THE CLASS JOE!!!!!!!!!!
In reply to Dukes
Let's see whether Biden reappears in a similar tv setting along with Kamala.
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In reply to sudden
yes THEY did
They could simply be focus group testing live on television.
Abrams pick is win for Trump
In reply to sudden
Auck is an airhead. Her positions are all methinks with no technical merit
Biden needs a commanding speaker. What is his name.... Beta orurke
In education, everyone is a handicap if you are not a Tall White Man
Black tall man. Handicap cap is black.
hilderbeast and don't want to give up power hussein on ballot
In reply to nickoutr
Biden/Abrams Shyte Show!
If Biden selects Abrams it would play right into Trump's hands as he is not shy about playing the race card to the racist crowd. In middle America Abrams will not play well, Biden already has the minority Vote, he has to be working on getting the middle America Vote.
In reply to Dukes
So you don't remember Biden courting Abrams before announcing that he was running for the Democratic nomination? There was even talk back then that Biden would pre-announce Abrams as his VP running mate at the time same time he announced he was running for President.
In reply to dayne
Biden is as middle America as they get. Why do you think he is killing Trump in polls of Michigan and Pennsylvania? By the way Clinton also had the minority vote, except that tons of black people stayed home on election day and did not vote. And we know how that turned out for HER. Biden will not make that same mistake. Abrams will get the black vote to turn out.
In reply to Walco
Well you might be right, but as I recall, Clinton won the popular vote by about 3 million Votes, but she lost the Electoral College because she lost by a small margin in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, States that have a smaller percentage of minority voters in comparison to many other States, so my reasoning is the lack of minority votes did not determine the last Elections.
In reply to dayne
In terms of raw votes, that means roughly 130,000 fewer African-Americans voted in Pennsylvania in 2016 than voted in 2012. If those voters had shown up on Tuesday, that alone would've been enough for Clinton to hold Pennsylvania by a razor-thin margin.
In reply to dayne
She lost Michigan by less than 10,000 votes. Predominantly Black Detroit, alone had many thousand eligible voters who elected to sit out the election.
Trump won Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes). In 2012, African-American turnout was about 755,000 voters, but that number was only about 718,000 African-Americans turned out to vote in 2016. I am not saying that Biden does not need to appeal to white working class voters in middle America, but Clinton would have won in 2016 if African Americans had shown up like they did in 2012.
Gimme AOC as VP or I am not voting
In reply to Dukes
I am in total agreement with what You have stated here . Kamala is very Sharp
and being trained as a Lawyer , can more than match Trump and whoever he selects .
That was evident when she verbally took on Barr the man who must be disbarred,
during the Hearing . Her Legal expertise will be an asset to Biden .
In reply to Walco
Of course I remember all that.Biden re-inforced the perception that Stacey is under serious consideration.That is a significant boost to Biden in the black community and to black voters in both North and South Carolina and of course Georgia.Remember there are competitive Senate races in both Carolinas and both Senate seats are up in Georgia.
Biden can get a significant boost from dancing with Stacey both from the Presidential race point of view and the Senate races.
My view is that if he turns around and picks Kamala he will still get Stacey supporters as well as some people who do not think that Stacey is ready especially considering that Biden will be 78 on Inauguration Day.
In reply to sudden
AOC guh mek yuh grow hair in de miggle of yuh palms!!!!!!!
Backroom logic:
Ethnic male VP candidate? Nyeaahh
White female VP candidate? NO way!!
Ethnic female VP candidate???? YEAHHHHHH bring it on!!!
In reply to Dukes
AOC could be Mrs Sudden any day. In fact she could be Mr Sudden if she wants
In reply to Dukes
GO TO THE TOP OF THE CLASS JOE!!!!!!!!!!
Is that the best you can do?
In reply to dayne
That's the small margin of Black in those said states who couldn't bring themselves to vote for her
In reply to POINT
And what do you think Stacey is? Minced meat?
She is not only a lawyer, but she is also a businesswoman and legislator, originally from the midwest and grew up in the south. So, she's covering all the bases.
In 1995 Abrams earned a Bachelor of Arts in interdisciplinary studies (political science, economics and sociology) from Spelman College, magna cum laude.While in college she worked in the youth services department in the office of Atlanta mayor Maynard Jackson. She later interned at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. As a freshman in 1992, Abrams took part in a protest on the steps of the Georgia Capitol, during which she joined in burning the state flag. At that time Georgia's state flag incorporated the Confederate battle flag, which had been added to the state flag in 1956 as an anti-civil rights movement action. The flag was designed by Southern Democrat John Sammons Bell, an attorney and Chair of the Democratic Party of Georgia who was an outspoken supporter of segregation.
As a Harry S. Truman Scholar, Abrams studied public policy at the University of Texas at Austin's LBJ School of Public Affairs, where she earned a Master of Public Affairs degree in 1998. In 1999 she earned a Juris Doctor from Yale Law School.
Legal and business career
After graduating from law school, Abrams worked as a tax attorney at the Sutherland Asbill & Brennan law firm in Atlanta, with a focus on tax-exempt organizations, health care, and public finance.[1] In 2010, while a member of the Georgia General Assembly, Abrams co-founded and served as the senior vice president of NOW Corp. (formerly NOWaccount Network Corporation), a financial services firm.
Abrams also co-founded Nourish, Inc., a beverage company with a focus on infants and toddlers, and is CEO of Sage Works, a legal consulting firm that has represented clients including the Atlanta Dream of the Women's National Basketball Association.
As I have said many times before, the AG job is there for Kamla, if she wants it.
In reply to Casper
I have no problem if the roles are reversed between Kamala and Stacey .
In reply to Casper
NO. It is the best that Sleepy Joe can do!!!!!!!!
In reply to Dukes
I am disappointed that you are falling fo a cheap Trump slogan.
Stacey is going to help Biden win the presidency "bigly".
In reply to Casper
On this we agree.
I just told you exactly what Biden's strategy is.
BTW As a voter in Florida,I am not only going to be voting for Biden,I will be organizing to ensure that everybody I know in Florida also vote for him and am putting my money where my mouth is by supporting important senate races in Maine and Arizona.
In reply to Dukes
Florida, rassta yuh really retire!
You seem to ignore the reports that Biden's wife is not big on Kamala, has Jill gotten past that attack on Joe?
In reply to HumbleCalf
That is petty stuff, if Jill Biden can't get over Democratic rivalry, how is she going to handle, Trump?
In reply to Casper
What Stacey has in her favour, coming to think of it is that the Democrats have California locked up .
So putting Stacey on the Ticket is likely to put her state in play in the
General Elections .
Kamala would be the Attorney General, and since California is a bastion of the Democratic Party , her replacement will obviously be a Member of the Democratic Party .
In reply to POINT
Very good points, POINT.
In reply to POINT
I mentioned all those points way back when I first suggested Stacey as VP and Kamla as AG.
In reply to black
I agree with that. I hope that is not true. In the end Jill should know that all hands on deck is the only way her husband wins. No time to be a Nancy Reagan and carrying grudges.
In reply to Casper
Biden will lose no matter who is his VP pick but the Amy woman is a much better pick than Stacy (not pleasing on the eyes) Adams and fake, boring, whoring Kamla.
In reply to Casper
Well take a Bow , I was unaware that You had stated that before I did .
In reply to nitro
Its is widely understood on this MB, why, for you, Amy is more pleasing on the eyes than Stacey.
You are so much like Trump; its no wonder you drink the Kool-Aid.
In reply to nitro
Biden will lose no matter who is his VP pick but the Amy woman is a much better pick than Stacy (not pleasing on the eyes) Adams and fake, boring, whoring Kamla
That's why we have an incompetent idiot in the Whitehouse right now. Idiots like you don't take into consideration the person's ability to do the job.
Elizabeth is my pick, she has plans for everything and can assume the office of Presidency immediately should Joe kicks the bucket!
In reply to black
Trump has done a great job. If it was not for his great economy we would be in much deeper trouble.
Any President would have had a horrid time with this Chinese virus. The USA is the center of the world, especially NY.
Due to his strong leadership and bravery in face of this epidemic our economy will recover much faster than expected, while we learn to live with this virus.
In reply to Casper
Amy is not pleasing to the eyes, but at least shoe does not look obese. Kamla is cute and smart but she is fake and people do not trust her.
My second pick Harris is Joe Biden's first pick
And all that's left is for him to make the big announcement!
Watch this space!
In reply to Casper
Should Biden pick Abrams for VP candidate, it would only be in emulation of GHW Bush's pick of Don Quayle back in '88. Such a pick served as a deflection from all his personal negatives.
Can you imagine the field day for opponents in their targeting of Abrams' unmistakable if not overbearing presence?
In reply to Drapsey
Can you imagine the field day for opponents in their targeting of Abrams' unmistakable if not overbearing presence?
That sounds very UNPLEASANT!!!!!!!!!!!!
In reply to Dukes
Maybe, but it all happened before when she ran for Gov of Georgia.
Susan Rice says she would 'certainly say yes' to be Biden's VP
In reply to Narper
Not a bad choice, but the selection is already locked up!
An interesting conversation, but I am of the opinion that Stacey Abrams looks will work against her for the V/P spot and against Biden if he picks her, Biden made a mistake when he made that declaration that his V/P will be a woman, he boxed himself into a corner. With the high reviews Cuomo is getting for the handling of the virus in NY he would have been a good pick for the V/P.
In reply to dayne
Cuomo said he is not interested in the national politics and doesnt appear to be the type of guy who would want to be a VP unless he is sure Biden would only serve a year
In reply to Dukes
If you are right,he made a mistake, how big a mistake, I dont know . That would be akin to what happens on the show the bachelor where the bachelor leads-on/flirts with one or more of the women leads them on and then select someone else. Stacey may not overtly behave like a spurn mistress, but the body language and her supporters would be pissed, and it would show .. what I dont know is did Biden request her participation, or was it the hosts idea.
In reply to POINT
Kamala's replacement will be the Mayor of Los Angeles.
In reply to nitro
Trump is a crook - a criminal; a tief - who by his incompetence and selfishness has destroyed the great Obama economy.
The Crooked Liar so wanted to destroy everything Obama built,
Ha ha ha - what an ass!!!
"Testing is overrated".
"If we didn't do any testing, we would have very few cases...".
Ay, caramba!!! whew!
In reply to nitro
Any President would have had a horrid time with this Chinese virus. The USA is the center of the world, especially NY.
Due to his strong leadership and bravery in face of this epidemic our economy will recover much faster than expected, while we learn to live with this virus.
Stop making a fool of yourself.
Anyone who supports Trump, whether they are entitled to their opinion, is a fool and deserves zero respect
In reply to nitro
Straight from the Trump palybook.
Moron.
Why is it that there is an age cut on for a President (cannot be younger than 39) but there is no cut-off age?
Seems to me that is the age old practice of age discrimination.
Frankly I think the age range for a US President should be 39 to 67, man or woman.
While I will vote for anyone to save America from the current disaster that is the Trump Administration,
I still think we democrats could have done better, going with someone younger, more energetic and with a fresher set of ideas, while maintaining a clear distinction between what Dems and Repugs stand for.
Lemme say this right about now! If Biden picks an ethnic female as his VP candidate, its 4 more yrs for Trump!
In reply to VIX
Tall moderate White man will do. Under 60. Too much handicap to to overcome from others in the current polarizing environment.
Ethnic Female has a lot of selling to do...
Harris is a black jailer lady...
The heavy set lady has a chip on her shoulder.
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Wow! You could say her name.
In reply to VIX
are u saying that in this environment current Obama couldnt win?
In reply to sudden
nah, I never said that
In reply to embsallie
The age is 35 to be eligible to be President.
In reply to birdseye
It was Biden's idea not the host.He wanted her to articulate the phenomenon of voter suppression.
In reply to VIX
you could have made a case that he wouldnt just like you said that
In reply to sudden
For sure if Obama was an ethnic female!
In reply to VIX
what about a white female?
In reply to Dukes
I stand corrected.
In reply to sudden
Vix would like us to pretend that is not what he wants to happen, even as he appears to be one of those individuals more interested in being able to say he was proven right, and in achieving that, the ends are the worst off of all worlds.
Vix, this MB mascot Contrarian.
In reply to sudden
Senile Biden needs all the help he can get. Young(ish) White male or 4 more years of Trump!
In reply to Prowi
I cOuldn't care less about murca.
Go take your meds and look at pix of Serena. You'll feel better.
In reply to VIX
i never understand why Biden is described as senile and Trump isnt?
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i could go on and on. the list is v long
In reply to sudden
Guess you have to consider the source
In reply to sudden
Trump is known to be senile. Who you trying to convince?
But that's already priced in!
In reply to VIX
equal senility then- all square
In reply to Casper
Vix like the typical insect reacts to whatever the environment throws at him. When the Dotard stuff is so ignorant he bawls out "Murca" and pontificate on how idiotic is the American voter. When the Dotard situation improves, show signs of improvement he bawls out "4 more years" and pontificate on how bad Biden and the other democratic candidates were. When the Dotard is so outrageous so that the Dotard foolishness starts impacting peoples lives (since this is the only thing that matters in a Repugnants life, like when the stock market was tanking), he crawls into his hole to wait it out and only crawls out when any of the previous 2 situations subcede the current situation.
In reply to sudden
Trump's senility, incompetence, stupidity, crookedness, deviance etc.. are already priced in!! Known knowns
In reply to carl0002
cool story bro
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