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So says Toby Radford...
Why was he sacked for this Lanchester league level coach?
The nasty politics of windies cricket why we are always making 1 step forward and seemingly 2 backwards after..

In reply to allan
The Devil was also excellent

In reply to allan

In reply to allan

Shallow Skirrett had to appease those who supported him on his mission to displace the common enemy, the Big IDIOT.

As a result of Big Phill's appointment as Head Coach Pybus' replacement, the usually argumentative if not quarrelsome Tits remain quiet about having only a single representative on the WI team for the just concluded 3-test series in England.

Dipshit for the first time your shit makes sense
The firing of Richard Pybus was an almost
A criminal action

In reply to Barry

J
Was also good for you too

In reply to Toney

The sheep on this board

In reply to allan

Pybus won one series and he's the greatest coach in the world....this dude was hired by pakistan, South Africa and Bangladesh and was fired in disgrace from all. Last year in that series, hope and brathwaite still made nothing, but it just happened that Kemar, alzarri and gabriel bowled brilliantly to knock england out for 71. Dowrich and Jason then knocked them out the match by the runs they made. Bravo scored a crucial 50 on a pitch the icc rated as poor in the 2nd test and england were again undone by pace.

The difference is Jason didn't make many runs because of his injury, a few catches were dropped in the 2nd and rd and proved costly and dowrich lodt his confidence midway during the 2nd test. The barrage from stokes probably did it. But more or less, everybody who performed in the series last year, performed this year......it just was not enough because England has not lost at home since 2012....largely due to the efforts of Broad and Anderson. Only Campbell dropped his performance. Hope and brathwaite continued the mediocrity of the last three years

In reply to Jumpstart

So the coach takes no responsibility for the success or failure ?

In reply to Jumpstart

Then what was the difference, the coach. Sorry, no free rides here. We didnt just lose them test, we looked worst than school boys doing so. Pybus!
The only series we have won against a top 5 side, yet you all waan frown at that. Bet he would have Hope firing.

In reply to natty_forever

I dont fawn at it.....im saying you guys read way too much into it. I did too. Im saying there are established facts....England have been terrible travellers outside of two countries-SL in a prolonged state of transition and South Africa who due to quotas and the pushback, resulted in a weak SA outfit...even though rabada and philander were there. Philander rdtired because of the ziggy zaggery at CSA. Engand were mauled by Australia and NZ in three months of touring. Secondly,England remains a formidable adversary in home conditions....they have not lost there since 2012 when they lost to an SA side that had not lost a series in 3 years. Thirdly......hope has not scored a hundred since headingly....3 years and for a #3 batsman that is totally unacceptable. Phil has only been there since 2019 post world cup. So for half of 2019, all of 2018 and the rest of 2017 following headingly, hope has been unable to make a significant score in tests. Fourthly,that pybus got that job on the sly is without dispute. But he would have had the same issues because the technical defficiencies of our batsmen were there all the time, even during the series last year and it just took a good bowling attack to expose it...india did it following the tournament and england did it this year. The defficiencies preceeded Phil. They were there all the time. The fact that brathwaite and hope have not done something about it though is telling about their work ethic

In reply to Jumpstart

Bullshit, we looked like complete amateurs in the 2nd and 3rd tests...
Under Pybus we were clicking and seems like we were going somewhere the sleeping Phil cannot even be compared

Attributing the success to some freak occurence or England record overseas is equivalent to burying your head in the sand, doesnt matter how we felt/feel about him, under pybus' tenure we saw a west Indies team we havent seen in decades, nothing can be said or done to take that away, a cardinal mistake was made in dismissing him, the man under whose presidency got him there was ousted and the new president did not want him there, that's politics 101

I am of the opinion then and now we dont have the tools to beat top team consistently, it was fantastic the work done by the coaching staff and players to deliver that result.

In reply to allan

England has won once in the west indies for 50 years. They do not perform well here with the exception of the 2004 unit which was world class for 2-3 years. Allyuh just doh want to see it. India came here and cleaned us up in two tests that did not last 5 days. Face it.......the same strategies of the series last year were employed this year: roach bowling fourth stump line and either cutting in or going slightly out, gabriel bowling wide on the crease, bringing the ball back into the batsman,Joseph and Holder bowling into the batsman. The fact is that no one in our line up averages over 40......bravo was the last and still averages 38 and he wasnt on tour. They were coming up against a team that has not lost at home since 2012 and two bowlers who have largely been responsible for that record. This was the problem with the federation.....caribbean nationals abandoning as semblance of practicality.

In reply to Jumpstart

I think you are the one who dont get it and doesn't want to admit Pybus did do a good job as coach for that series, you just find a reason not to give credit where it is due

In reply to hawk

Pybus was there for a series.....clearly not a large enough sample

In reply to Jumpstart

So you give the man job and he won the series. And then you fire him.

Logical.

Regardless of the naysayers
Richard was excellent compared to Simmo
Simmo is no more than a league coach

Regardless of the naysayers
Richard was excellent compared to Simmo
Simmo is no more than a league coach

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In reply to allan

What did simmo do wrong that pybus would not do

In reply to Barry

I say give them hell, Barry.

Even if it's only in defense of your countryman, Sleepy Phil.

And who was the coach against India?

In reply to Barry

Other way around, satan qas that. He jus didnt want to be jus that.

In reply to natty_forever

The current batting coach......Floyd Reifer

In reply to Drapsey

Allyuh men just blind and deaf yes.....NZ, India, Australia and SA(although their cricket has fallen away a bit) have not won in England since 2010(SA 2012 being the exception) with batting line ups containing players with averages in the high 40s and 50s despite multiple attempts. Yet allyuh did feel that our line up with nobody averaging over 40 was supposed to conquer anderson and especially broad. Broad who has mauled those sides on multiple iccasions on english soil. Blind and deaf

In reply to Jumpstart

No, you just don't get it. We cannot bat a day, is our issue.

In reply to Jumpstart

You can't fault us, Jumpy, for being hopeful that with the Big IDIOT out of the way resulting in our homeboy (Sleepy) Phil replacing (/displacing) the foreigner Pybus as head coach, we would've beaten the odds and earned even a drawn series on England soil.

Yes, very disappointing the way things unfolded, not the worst of which is the discovery that responsible people were caught sleeping on the job.

In reply to Drapsey

If i was phil....and i didn't sleep...i woudda cuss hope, brathwaite and campbell stink for getting out to the same ball all the time

In reply to Drapsey

You should spend time teaching Campbell and blacksmallwood to bat...

pybus got a team where alot of the ground work was done by the previous coach he got roach, shannon and holder bowing at they best so i dont think he should take the credit plus a coach is only good or bad like his team. am one that believe you cant teach someone to bat its either they got it or not something technical can be work on but no coach can go into hope head and tell him hat to do when he is in the middle and we in the Caribbean has to realized having talent should not just guarantee you three or four years of failure in international cricket. is there any other cricketer i world cricket performing as bad like HOPE and is still a sure pick?

In reply to timeless99

So umm de new best coach in de world didn't have Holder, Gabriel and Roach in his team? Or dem fellas stop bowl good when big Phil tek over?

Piss poor technique and he want credit because it is shown up now. This is not a recent problem. NZ did the same and India also. He should just shut up. We have technical problems that is why not one of these guys have gone on to be dominant batsmen for years now. At U19 you see the talent but when the microscope is laid on them at the higher level the faults a revealed. Problem is we don't apply the same microscope on our own until it is pointed out to us. Then the muscle memory have to be retrained at a later level instead of when they are youths and can be more easily corrected. At professional level to get rid of bad habits is a bitch as a youth not as difficult.

TRAIL linked Haynes batting yesterday and it is so stark on how to use the crease compared to these cement feet laden batsmen. His and all previous WI greats playing off the pads because your feet have to get you in position to handle those balls swinging into your pads is so stark. Think Broad and Woakes would even trouble Freddo, Hunte, GG or Dessie. Batsmen like Maurice Foster and Butcher would eat those bowlers alive.

Fellas just are not mentally or technically up to the task. They are so damn soft

In reply to seaegg99

Quality of cricket in your under resourced countries....

In reply to timeless99

i think you should read before you hit save, there is no sound Logic to your post.

In reply to seaegg99

Either Broad got 500 test wickets playing only Against West Indies

Or

He got 500 test wickets because all batsmen in world cricket are not mentally and technically up to the task.


Either way, what you’re suggesting about previous West Indies batsmen “eating those bowlers alive” is ludicrous.

In reply to seaegg99

Unlikely......as can be seen by broad, anderson and woakes' average, they benefit significantly from the county system structure. Hfnes, Greenidge, Viv etc all had the benefit of playing in county cricket when the restrictions on foreign players were not as stringent as they are now. You could play four foreign players per side and as a result players could facw the best england had to offer. Which is also why teams cane to England and beat them, the WI and Pakistan being the two most consistent in this regard. In other words, if broad anderson and woakes were playing then, they would not last long because thdy would be found oyt during a county championship or division 1 season

In reply to Jumpstart

Of the names I mentioned above only GG played regular cricket in England.

My point, because their technique is so lacking. Their feet never get them in position to play the shots. Many times the bat is so far away from the pad while playing defensively. They never get the front pad outside the off stump to balls swinging in because that back foot is planted.

Never said Anderson or Broad were not good bowlers. Just that quality test batsmen would not get out like that. You do not think GG, Hunte, Haynes and Freddo wouldn't enjoy not so fast bowlers bowling half trackers and balls on their pads all day.

Srashta : "This is what I love about test cricket. After all these crazy changes that have happened in cricket - here you win the toss bat first and make 350ish in England - you become hard to beat. This why I cannot for the life of me believe Jason Holder winning the toss in the 2nd and 3rd tests and bowling first with his injury prone bowlers in closely scheduled tests. Just shocking. "

In reply to Barry

You showing you private life in public.
A know it hurts that Sim is flop and Pybus is excellent. Hush!

In reply to Jumpstart

But you do realise this was another politics pick

I am not writing off Simmons and not sure if Pybus was the long term answer but it was madness and political chicanery to dump Pybus just before the World Cup. More impressive than the test series win was the one day series draw with the no.1 seeded team and eventual world cup winners.

Unfortunately we getting what we deserve