Richard Pybus was excellent

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link allan Joined: Feb 8, 2003
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8/1/20, 10:52:37 AM 
So says Toby Radford...
Why was he sacked for this Lanchester league level coach?
The nasty politics of windies cricket why we are always making 1 step forward and seemingly 2 backwards after..

link Barry Joined: Jun 19, 2019
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8/1/20, 11:41:32 AM 
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The Devil was also excellent

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8/1/20, 12:17:08 PM 
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link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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8/1/20, 12:47:07 PM 
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Why was he sacked for this Lanchester league level coach?

Shallow Skirrett had to appease those who supported him on his mission to displace the common enemy, the Big IDIOT.

As a result of Big Phill's appointment as Head Coach Pybus' replacement, the usually argumentative if not quarrelsome Tits remain quiet about having only a single representative on the WI team for the just concluded 3-test series in England.

link allan Joined: Feb 8, 2003
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8/1/20, 7:06:45 PM 
Dipshit for the first time your shit makes sense
The firing of Richard Pybus was an almost
A criminal action

link allan Joined: Feb 8, 2003
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8/1/20, 7:09:43 PM 
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J
Was also good for you too

link allan Joined: Feb 8, 2003
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8/1/20, 7:13:52 PM 
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The sheep on this board

link Jumpstart Joined: Nov 29, 2017
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8/1/20, 7:26:57 PM 
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Pybus won one series and he's the greatest coach in the world....this dude was hired by pakistan, South Africa and Bangladesh and was fired in disgrace from all. Last year in that series, hope and brathwaite still made nothing, but it just happened that Kemar, alzarri and gabriel bowled brilliantly to knock england out for 71. Dowrich and Jason then knocked them out the match by the runs they made. Bravo scored a crucial 50 on a pitch the icc rated as poor in the 2nd test and england were again undone by pace.

The difference is Jason didn't make many runs because of his injury, a few catches were dropped in the 2nd and rd and proved costly and dowrich lodt his confidence midway during the 2nd test. The barrage from stokes probably did it. But more or less, everybody who performed in the series last year, performed this year......it just was not enough because England has not lost at home since 2012....largely due to the efforts of Broad and Anderson. Only Campbell dropped his performance. Hope and brathwaite continued the mediocrity of the last three years

link allan Joined: Feb 8, 2003
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8/1/20, 8:28:53 PM 
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So the coach takes no responsibility for the success or failure ?

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 27, 2003
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8/1/20, 10:20:02 PM 
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Then what was the difference, the coach. Sorry, no free rides here. We didnt just lose them test, we looked worst than school boys doing so. Pybus!
The only series we have won against a top 5 side, yet you all waan frown at that. Bet he would have Hope firing. big grin

link Jumpstart Joined: Nov 29, 2017
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8/1/20, 11:40:38 PM 
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I dont fawn at it.....im saying you guys read way too much into it. I did too. Im saying there are established facts....England have been terrible travellers outside of two countries-SL in a prolonged state of transition and South Africa who due to quotas and the pushback, resulted in a weak SA outfit...even though rabada and philander were there. Philander rdtired because of the ziggy zaggery at CSA. Engand were mauled by Australia and NZ in three months of touring. Secondly,England remains a formidable adversary in home conditions....they have not lost there since 2012 when they lost to an SA side that had not lost a series in 3 years. Thirdly......hope has not scored a hundred since headingly....3 years and for a #3 batsman that is totally unacceptable. Phil has only been there since 2019 post world cup. So for half of 2019, all of 2018 and the rest of 2017 following headingly, hope has been unable to make a significant score in tests. Fourthly,that pybus got that job on the sly is without dispute. But he would have had the same issues because the technical defficiencies of our batsmen were there all the time, even during the series last year and it just took a good bowling attack to expose it...india did it following the tournament and england did it this year. The defficiencies preceeded Phil. They were there all the time. The fact that brathwaite and hope have not done something about it though is telling about their work ethic

link allan Joined: Feb 8, 2003
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8/2/20, 10:32:05 AM 
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Bullshit, we looked like complete amateurs in the 2nd and 3rd tests...
Under Pybus we were clicking and seems like we were going somewhere the sleeping Phil cannot even be compared

link hawk Joined: Mar 31, 2007
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8/2/20, 10:42:04 AM 
Attributing the success to some freak occurence or England record overseas is equivalent to burying your head in the sand, doesnt matter how we felt/feel about him, under pybus' tenure we saw a west Indies team we havent seen in decades, nothing can be said or done to take that away, a cardinal mistake was made in dismissing him, the man under whose presidency got him there was ousted and the new president did not want him there, that's politics 101

I am of the opinion then and now we dont have the tools to beat top team consistently, it was fantastic the work done by the coaching staff and players to deliver that result.

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8/2/20, 12:36:02 PM 
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England has won once in the west indies for 50 years. They do not perform well here with the exception of the 2004 unit which was world class for 2-3 years. Allyuh just doh want to see it. India came here and cleaned us up in two tests that did not last 5 days. Face it.......the same strategies of the series last year were employed this year: roach bowling fourth stump line and either cutting in or going slightly out, gabriel bowling wide on the crease, bringing the ball back into the batsman,Joseph and Holder bowling into the batsman. The fact is that no one in our line up averages over 40......bravo was the last and still averages 38 and he wasnt on tour. They were coming up against a team that has not lost at home since 2012 and two bowlers who have largely been responsible for that record. This was the problem with the federation.....caribbean nationals abandoning as semblance of practicality.

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8/2/20, 1:14:15 PM 
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Allyuh just doh want to see it.


I think you are the one who dont get it and doesn't want to admit Pybus did do a good job as coach for that series, you just find a reason not to give credit where it is due

link Jumpstart Joined: Nov 29, 2017
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8/2/20, 3:59:34 PM 
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Pybus was there for a series.....clearly not a large enough sample

link archangel Joined: Mar 15, 2004
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8/2/20, 5:12:03 PM 
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So you give the man job and he won the series. And then you fire him.

Logical.

link allan Joined: Feb 8, 2003
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8/2/20, 5:24:47 PM 
Regardless of the naysayers
Richard was excellent compared to Simmo
Simmo is no more than a league coach

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8/2/20, 5:24:56 PM 
Regardless of the naysayers
Richard was excellent compared to Simmo
Simmo is no more than a league coach

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8/2/20, 5:27:43 PM 
2 Corinthians 11:14

New International Version
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

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8/2/20, 5:31:11 PM 
"It would be great to ask the [CWI] president [Dave Cameron] about this appointment and when was this position advertised," Haynes posted on his Facebook account. The answer, ESPNcricinfo can confirm, is that it wasn't: the post was not advertised and Cameron did have a direct hand in Pybus' appointment, without interviewing any candidates.

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link Jumpstart Joined: Nov 29, 2017
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8/2/20, 5:41:09 PM 
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What did simmo do wrong that pybus would not do

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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8/2/20, 5:45:14 PM 
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I say give them hell, Barry.

Even if it's only in defense of your countryman, Sleepy Phil.

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 27, 2003
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8/2/20, 7:25:32 PM 
And who was the coach against India?

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8/2/20, 7:27:34 PM 
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Other way around, satan qas that. He jus didnt want to be jus that.

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