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HEADLINE: 'How did they become so big' - Windies legend Roberts questions players decision to skip Bangladesh tour
CaribbeanCricket.com
Jan 1, 2021, 9:42:39 AM
Legendary West Indies fast bowler Andy Roberts has questioned some of the reasoning behind players opting not to go on the team’s upcoming tour of Bangladesh.
12 players, including captains Jason Holder, Kieron Pollard, and Roston Chase all opted to make themselves unavailable for the series, citing health and safety concerns. Joining the trio on the sidelines are Darren Bravo, Shamarh Brooks, Sheldon Cottrell, Evin Lewis, Shai Hope, Shimron Hetmyer, Nicholas Pooran, Fabian Allen and Shane Dowrich.
With so many players deciding not to accept the invitation on this occasion, however, Roberts has questioned the difference between England and New Zealand vs Bangladesh.
“How do all of these guys who couldn’t make a team two or three years ago now become so big that they are refusing to tour and blaming it on the bubble,” Roberts said.
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velo
Jan 1, 2021, 10:25:42 AM
i just like roberts he a straight shooter telling it like it is. a lot of these players are playing in a bubble in franchise leagues across the world so this bubble excuse don't fly
Maispwi
Jan 1, 2021, 10:44:10 AM
How can anyone who has not experienced what players are currently faced with decide how much individuals can bear?
Most other countries are putting some mental health systems in place to aid dere players but we bash ours.
Halliwell
Jan 1, 2021, 11:16:55 AM
velo
Jan 1, 2021, 11:49:00 AM
In reply to Maispwioh making thousands of dollars and owning three and four houses and cars must be tough
Raggs
Jan 1, 2021, 1:29:08 PM
these Antiguans do talk dam talk...Roberts/ Ambrose and Viv
imusic
Jan 1, 2021, 3:55:34 PM
Roberta should talk when he has to play during a global pandemic and 1.8 million people and counting have DIED as a result
He increasingly comes across as a Neanderthal
I have some empathy for him because hes struggling with accepting the reality that times have changed. Players of lesser ability than himself are deriving comparatively tremendous financial rewards from the game, and the kicker for him is the options that players today have that he never had.
In short, hes a bitter, angry, envious, former player.
It cant be easy for him....or others in a similar situation.
rhatid
Jan 2, 2021, 11:34:28 AM
In reply to imusic
You sound so dumb and gullible. If you really believe the excuses these money-grabbing, prideless guys are making, then, meet me at the foot of the Brooklyn bridge with your check book. Just wait and see these guys showing up all over the world, where covid is even more rampant than in Bangladesh, playing T20. It's all about the money. But, when their limited abilities wane and most of the money is wasted and they come back begging for a place in West Indies cricket, tell them to GO TO HELL!
As I have said. disband West Indies cricket. Let these ungrateful, greedy, shameless idiots learn their craft in their back yards with their sisters and brothers. We need to stop teaching them the game. Stop creating opportunities for them to learn the game at our expence, then go elsewhere to entertain people in other countries.
One thing I have to say to these guys, money is not all there is to life! There is also an important thing called self-respect.
rhatid
Jan 2, 2021, 11:39:14 AM
In reply to Halliwell
Yes, because the West Indies is the only cricketing nation where their players devote 100% to T20 and money, and 0% to country and pride. They are the laughing stock of the cricketing world.
Jumpstart
Jan 2, 2021, 11:42:47 AM
In reply to rhatid
What country? Yuh mean the dysfunctional amalgamation known as the West Indies where Bajans and Leeward islands(really Antiguans) demand the most places on the team regardless of fitness or actual talent'?
rhatid
Jan 2, 2021, 12:27:03 PM
In reply to Jumpstart
You're kinda making my point. I repeat, DISBAND WEST INDIES CRICKET!
imusic
Jan 2, 2021, 1:15:17 PM
In reply to rhatid
Tel all that to all the players who end up penniless and destitute after playing West Indies cricket.
To al those players that got injured on WI duty and had to foot medical expenses themselves.
To all the players that had to fly themselves and colleagues to Matches for the WI because the board didnt make the proper flight arrangements.
To the players that agreed one thing with their board only for their board to cut their pay 50% while on tour
Play for WI under any circumstance. Under any condition. Just because they say so.
Hopefully you dont have children. Fine example you set for them.
sudden
Jan 2, 2021, 1:19:01 PM
In reply to Jumpstart
You are a v bitter disingenuous banna
Khaga
Jan 2, 2021, 1:36:18 PM
Mindies cricket is a joke. They exist to cheat and swindle money from the rest of the cricketing world..
Barry
Jan 2, 2021, 3:39:00 PM
In reply to rhatid
Let these ungrateful, greedy, shameless idiots learn their craft in their back yards with their sisters and brothers. We need to stop teaching them the game. Stop creating opportunities for them to learn the game at our expence, then go elsewhere to entertain people in other countries.
You must be talking about Brooklyn again? No one owes the West Indian parasitic Governments anything
openning
Jan 2, 2021, 4:45:52 PM
In reply to imusic
Was Andy Robert part of the Packer group?
natty_forever
Jan 2, 2021, 5:08:43 PM
In reply to Khaga
Trying to be a bigger khaca than last year.
rhatid
Jan 2, 2021, 6:36:31 PM
[b]In reply to Barry[/b
Why is it only the West Indies players who are behaving like money on earth is about to run out. Why can't they do just a portion of what players from other countries do - play T20 and make your money, then make yourself available (at least sometimes) to play for the place where they learned their craft. These guys are behaving like kids in a candy store. And FYI, Barry, they are the ones who are poor examples to their children. I would never teach my children to abandon those who gave you the opportunity in the first place because they aren't as not as rich as other who can pay you to help keep your own region and people down. I would never teach my children to be so gravalicious that they lose their self-respect to the point where they can't even see the poor examples of human beings they are.
Chrissy
Jan 3, 2021, 5:54:35 AM
In reply to Maispwi
Correct - Andy is my brethren but he is wrong on this. I would dissuade anyone I know from exposing themselves to Covid or the quarantine/bubble conditions.
Judgement
Jan 3, 2021, 6:09:02 AM
In reply to velo
i just like roberts he a straight shooter telling it like it is. a lot of these players are playing in a bubble in franchise leagues across the world so this bubble excuse don't fly
You are 100% correct. I know many of these guys personally and certainly have nothing against them. But for Jason to complain that he hasn't been home for months, then head straight to the Big Bash and refuse the tour of Bangladesh looks unprofessional. If you're mentally struggling then why would you head straight from New Zealand to yet another bubble and spend your Christmas away from home? Clearly you aren't missing home that much.
rhatid
Jan 3, 2021, 11:25:48 AM
In reply to Chrissy
I guess, the Bangladesh covid is more dangerous that the Australian covid! Enjoy your slumber!
soloview
Jan 3, 2021, 4:11:02 PM
This is my problem with Robert's statement. It also represents how a lot of others think. " how they get so big' the perception is that decisions are made and privilege given based on status.
if the WI can guarantee players a pick every time they available, then we can argue they will reciprocate by being available every time they are picked.
Kay
Jan 3, 2021, 4:22:41 PM
Roberts has questioned the difference between England and New Zealand vs Bangladesh.
I wouldn't attempt to kill the messenger here as the picture is indeed fuzzy ....
rudebway
Jan 3, 2021, 7:05:46 PM
In reply to soloview
it is unfortunate, but to me it seems Andy is simply jealous. The game and the money has changed from the 70s and 80s. these guys dont need to kiss ass to necessarily survive.
WICFan
Jan 4, 2021, 4:14:51 AM
In reply to Maispwi
Steve Smith has been in a covid bubble for 5 months.
How many other sides are having the amount of player withdrawals the West Indies have had?
soloview
Jan 4, 2021, 5:40:47 AM
In reply to Kay
For most the picture is very clear...
some of these people also declined to go England. NZ, as we know is much safter so they went there .
Some just came out of multiple bubbles so it is OK to now say I had enought so I will miss this one
Some is for personal reasons ( As stated by selector)
I was hopeing many of these players went on tour, but I think is more selfish of us to hold it aganist them than it is of them to decline selection.
StumpCam
Jan 4, 2021, 9:22:41 AM
For the prima donnas and privileged.
Cricinfo excerpts of Nathan Lyon interview
"To be honest with you with regards to the quarantine I know there's a few people from both squads who've been in a bubble for close to six months now, but in my eyes it's a very small sacrifice for us to get out there and play the game that we love and put a lot of smiles on a lot of people's faces around the world, so in my eyes, we just have to suck it up and get on with it and get out there and play cricket for our respective countries and make sure that we're playing a really competitive brand of cricket."
Asked for his views on the severity of the restrictions that have been placed on the players, Lyon reiterated his view that they would simply have to "stop complaining" - though he empathised with the five India players who are under investigation for a possible breach of bubble safety.
"To be honest with you, it's all been okay in my eyes," Lyon said. "As I said before, we just need to suck it up and get on with it.
analyst-kid
Jan 4, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
Please take into consideration that Roberts is not just an ex- test player but an ex pro cricketer playing top level county cricket for Hampshire every day of the week sometimes in cold conditions.
I dont think these current players have even experienced that.
imusic
Jan 4, 2021, 1:07:05 PM
I wonder how many bubbles Lyon has been part of? And for how long?
Lets take Jason Holder as one example:
England tour - June 6 to July 30. 7 weeks
IPL - September 26 to November 11. 6 weeks
NZ tour - Nov 14 to Dec 16 - 4 weeks
Big Bash - Dec 16 to Dec 30 - 2 weeks
So hes had nearly 5 months of being in a bubble in the space of 6 months.
Ironically for Holder, he left Big Bash early to go home, only to be faced with a further lock down in Bim.
StumpCam
Jan 4, 2021, 2:04:23 PM
In reply to imusic
IPL and Big Bash are not part of representing West Indies!
imusic
Jan 4, 2021, 2:07:35 PM
In reply to StumpCam
IPL and Big Bash are not part of representing West Indies
Tell that to CWI when they receive their 10% cut
soloview
Jan 4, 2021, 3:01:43 PM
In reply to imusic
and before these he had the CPL bubble
imusic
Jan 4, 2021, 3:20:18 PM
In reply to soloview
Corrrect. Forgot about that. Thumbs up emoji
Maispwi
Jan 4, 2021, 7:18:54 PM
In reply to imusic
CPL doh count?
Maispwi
Jan 4, 2021, 7:20:21 PM
In reply to imusic
Holder only signed up for 3 games
Maispwi
Jan 4, 2021, 7:28:43 PM
In reply to StumpCam
Bubble fatigue is real.
Maybe Lyon shud tell these two to suck it up
Sydney Sixers import Tom Curran has become the second Englishman in 48 hours to pull out of the Big Bash as the onerous task of playing in cricket quarantine bubbles takes hold.
imusic
Jan 4, 2021, 7:44:43 PM
In reply to Maispwi
Holder only signed up for 3 games
Holder arrived in Oz straight from NZ on Dec 16 and left on Dec 30
He played 3 matches for Sidney Sixers
Dec 20
Dec 26
Dec 29